'Yes, I Cheated' Phil Heath On Performance-Enhancing Drugs And Transgender Athletes

Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by seven-time winner of Mr Olympia Phil Heath to talk about bodybuilding and how he maintains such peak physical fitness, his relationship with The Rock and Arnold Schwarzenegger, trans issues in sports and much more.
Plus, Piers Morgan challenges Heath to arm wrestle... check out who won!
00:00 - Introduction
01:02 - What is really life like as Mr Olympia?
02:32 - Phil’s current gym routine & training with Arnold Schwarzenegger
05:06 - The mental strength needed to be a champion
07:10 - "I sacrificed a little over 10 summers for Mr. Olympia"
08:45 - Phil Heath’s relationship with The Rock and Arnold Schwarzenegger
11:35 - Do you have to vain to be a body builder?
13:05 - A day in the life of Phil Heath at his peak
15:17 - Phil’s take on body positivity and obesity
17:00 - Did Phil ever take performance-enhancing drugs?
20:54 - "How do you feel about the whole trans in sport issue?"
23:08 - Piers takes on Phil in an arm wrestle
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[@romerosneck]

It's not cheating if everyone else is doing it, you literally can't compete in bodybuilding without it

[@lbmuscle]

I agree. Especially on a pro level.

[@untilyoupuke]

@@lbmusclepiers knows nothing about the sport

[@NattyHub]

There are some, who' would consider a person on steroids a mentally weak person, because they do not possess the mental toughness to accept their body's natural limitations and are willing to accept the health consequences (sometimes fatal) that are. caused by steroid use. Is that strength or health? Doesn't the human Body always want to return to its natural, healthyl state? I personally have no opinion on the matter, Just raising a question.

[@NZZN666]

@@NattyHub As a bodybuilder you'll never reach the very top without steroids so it not about mental toughness it's about "Do I want to be the best at this?" If the answer is yes, a bodybuilder has no choice but to take steroids. Coleman did, Yates did, Cutler did etc etc.

[@TFLN]

@@untilyoupuke Piers was an arm wrestling champion before becoming a journalist

[@TheAaronCarroll]

Never realised what a great person Phil is. What a possitive example for the community

[@gj1695]

Agree. What a great guy. Piers gives a platform to some impressive folks. And he has stopped interrupting all the time. He now listens and engages in a thoughtful manner.

[@wanksey5693]

why?😅

[@hassyg4083]

talks about health then mentions has taken steroids

[@wanksey5693]

no

[@sleazyfellow]

He was good but you must of not followed bodybuilding at the time. He was trying to do the whole Floyd Mayweather thing and be a bad guy.

[@Lieutenant-Dan]

He didn't say he cheated. He said he used steroids in an arena that everyone is using them in. You wouldn't even be able become an IFBB pro unless you're enhanced.

[@iutiopxx]

Why becoming pro in the first place To show off like a dummy

[@nakke3]

​@@iutiopxxWhy people do anything with passion: to feel alive and have a purpose in life. If you also have natural talet to your interest and you are lucky enough to make it your job then I'd say it's an obvious choise to do it. Many stumble through life with no purpose or passion, just living for others (boss, country, kids, spouse, etc.)

[@iutiopxx]

@@nakke3 yes I agree my friend you're absolutely right But seeing people actually literally dying from taking testerone and other hormone it's just heartbreaking And this people (bodybuilders) are just misleading everyone their physic are absolutely unnatural and impossible to achieve without hormones Plus what's the point to achieve that kind of physics just non functional Peace

[@ipmate9334]

@@iutiopxxsounds like jealousy to me from a lack of attention towards yourself

[@iutiopxx]

@@ipmate9334 I'm a professional athlete my friend don't worry But real athletism not bullshit

[@harperspodcast]

I really appreciate Piers Morgan for having a mature and entertaining interview with a Bodybuilder. Too often you see Bodybuilders interviewed on a mainstream platform, only to be asked juvenile questions and essentially "mocked" for how they look with little effort and time made to look at the individuals intelligence overall.

[@N1ghtstar4]

Completely agree mate , I mean I know they had the arm wrestle but something like that is normally the entire basis of the interview…”hey do ya think you could crush this watermelon?!”

[@CluedUp23]

Phil Heath is a great ambassador for bodybuilding.

[@willthomas7666]

LOL u must not know much him

[@chadskiles4396]

@@willthomas7666Please indulge us with your vast knowledge and expertise

[@NattyHub]

Is anyone's body really "Built", or is it only temporarily enhanced and goes back into its original state once the stimulation stops? I personally don't know! Just asking a question.🤔

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Phil was great when I met him... Got to film him training with Arnold for my channel at the recent expo... Generally think he mainly gets a bad rap from the role he was cast in for Generation Iron and the run-ins he had with some social media guys who were being disrespectful... :)

[@nass419]

​@@NattyHubIt is temporarily enhanced and the body never goes back to its normal state because the hormone(testosterone) that spiked so high during the enhancement period or cycle crashes lower than the normal level afterwards if they don't keep taking the PEDs. Therefore, retired guys like Phil Heath and his peers now have to take some TRT( Testosterone Replacement Therapy) for life shall they want to maintain a normal level of testosterone.

[@jonallsopp3053]

Phil seems to be a nice and classy guy…a good Mr O champ!

[@willthomas7666]

LOL think again

[@SweFitness]

Hehe he was always arrogant and a sore loser. I guess that is what defines the word competetive.

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Phil was great when I met him... Got to film him training with Arnold for my channel at the recent expo... Generally think he mainly gets a bad rap from the role he was cast in for Generation Iron and the run-ins he had with some social media guys who were being disrespectful... :)

[@despicableone4495]

still cheated doe

[@thefatlosscode365]

You clearly don’t know bodybuilding then

[@joet8862]

It's not cheating in his situation, it's leveling the playing field because he competes against the best in the world

[@Mantenner]

Piers did say that if everyone's using it, it's not cheating, so in regard to Phil and the Olympia I think he acknowledged that point.

[@1972dsrai]

Exactly. There isn’t a single guy competing at that level who isn’t taking steroids. It can be done safely if you have the right medical advice and plan.

[@canecorsomom2023]

​@1972dsrai it can be done safer, not safely There is no safe way to run tren or anadrol, and at this level they are definitely on both of those things

[@OneEyedJackNLD]

Just makes me sad they are called ‘the best’. But as an all natural bodybuilder for 21 years perhaps I’m just jealous for not getting any praise 😅

[@johnscott3893]

Not sure about that.. some people respond more to those things than others due to having more androgen receptors. In the end of the day though genetics trumps everything else.

[@sherimelanson5096]

Last week my son, who is aspiring to be a pro body builder, was working out in his gym in Edmonton and Phil Health came in. Phil was such a gentleman, he said, and shared a conversation and a picture with him. Seems to be down to earth.

[@todor7906]

Cool, i am avid bodybuilder too. How old are you and your son btw ma'am?

[@sherimelanson5096]

He is 24 and I am 47.

[@1972dsrai]

At least you’re aware that if your son aspires to reach his full potential and wants to compete there is no alternative but to take steroids. As long as its done correctly with the right medical advice it can be done safely.

[@sherimelanson5096]

@@1972dsraihe has been doing this since he was 17. Working out for years before 17 to improve his hockey. So, ya he is aware of all his options and is medically advised. It’s not for everyone.

[@RealNOPAINSNOGAINS]

What the hell was Phil Heath doing in Edmonton Alberta lmfao

[@rohailiqbal8605]

Never been a big fan of Heath, but his character has truly developed after his last olympia loss, its truly humbled him and seems like he’s in a better place in life. Good for him.

[@user-wn1kq8jx5q]

Preach! I’ve been following bodybuilding 20 ish years, have had the pleasure of being at 6 Mr. Olympias and have met alll the big names of past and present at the expos..Heath has always been a “no thank you” for me. So much so I wrote before watching in the comments a nasty comment about him. Then I watched and had to eat crow and delete my comment. Was happy to find your comment because I haven’t been up to date on bodybuilding for at least 4-5ish years now so I assumed he was the Phil I had always known/seen.

[@drjay73]

Loss? Lol, more like father time catching up to him like it does everyone else. When he was in his prime he dominated and that is a fact. Sorry he hurt your feelings beating whoever your favorite bodybuilder was

[@user-my9cj1lq6s]

Same thoughts seems like a really good dude

[@rohailiqbal8605]

@@drjay73 😂it sounds like you’re feelings are hurt and you’re tryna project it onto me 🤣. Yes he lost no matter what excuse you come up with boy, he still lost. Past his prime you said 😂 he was 38 when he lost to rhoden, and rhoden was 40 so he was even older than heath. Learn some facts and stop making excuses like a little boy about his pregnant belly for his LOSS! 👍🏼

[@med_ayhem_benabda]

He said before that he was faking his personality to look like the top dog that evreyone slightly hate

[@skepticalbutopen4620]

Phil is one of the few athletes that I’ve seen that truly seems likable on a personal level

[@willthomas7666]

LoL

[@xxadoniskxx]

That’s ironic…and funny Im sure this guy 👆🏽 gets it 😂

[@SweFitness]

Haha, these days he comes across that way. 10 years ago? Naah

[@fortunefitness]

@@SweFitnessif you met him in person you would think otherwise. So humble and engaging with his fans.

[@chadskiles4396]

@@xxadoniskxxPlease fill us in since we are all ignorant of what you already know

[@317MaseX]

It’s crazy how in the 2010s he was a villain and very polarizing , now days people realize he’s a good dude

[@wmoule]

Sometimes they do that for hype to make drama for social media. Helps to get get better sponsors.

[@phiten40]

Kinda makes you wonder how many other "villains" we have in society that are actually the good ones. And vice versa, the "good" people who have been villains all along.

[@317MaseX]

@@phiten40 damn bro thats mad deep, you got me critically thinking

[@phiten40]

@@317MaseX I had a gummy before I made this comment. Seeing with my magic eye right now.

[@laowai2000]

He's the Kelly Slater of body building. There to win and making friends would have just been a distraction from winning.

[@mc80466]

I love that when asked his opinion on the body positivity movement he really kept his answer focused on health. He mentioned health markers, blood tests, diseases, etc. how it's good to be healthy essentially. There was no shaming or ridiculing. Phil is great

[@retroafro1]

TBF Phil was protecting his own life's decisions with that - he took gear on a massive level and as long as the dr said his bloods were not bad, he continued....he would be a hypocrite to shame anyones body when he has done the things he has to get his body a certain way...like someone eating loads, its two extremes

[@user-ci8gj4ex5o]

@@retroafro1Rogan could learn a thing or two about that.

[@heidiiiiiiii]

​@@retroafro1 exactly. The amount of mass on his body even now could be bad for his health. He should have said no comment considering what he's done to himself.

[@jloop_2008]

Piers, you just moved up another level in my book. Having Phil on is amazing. Good for you!

[@aitnobetafaq]

Could have changed the title of the video imo...

[@him050]

@@aitnobetafaqI agree. It’s in a quotation mark, yet he never actually said it. Yes he said he used PEDs (duh) but “I cheated” never came out of his mouth.

[@jloop_2008]

@@aitnobetafaq ya I agree

[@NattyHub]

Wish they would have addressed the P.E.D.-induced heart- and cardiovascular problems(among many others) in young so-called "Bodybuilders".

[@everready800]

Well I don't know about another level but he moved up one level in my book. Just keep him away from politics!!

[@andygreen4494]

Definitely going to watch the Breaking Olympia: The Phil Heath Story!

[@igorsenayoutube]

Awesome interview. Love that Piers didn't interrupt Phill and had a great conversation with him.

[@StrobeFireStudios]

Phil Heath is a great guy - well done for having him on the show. Really nice video thanks for putting it out.

[@ugk26]

What the f**k!!!! Never expected this, very cool.

[@jlcmiller100]

Same here 😂

[@wanksey5693]

why

[@ugk26]

@@wanksey5693 Phil is basically retired, I don’t see him around much. I also have never seen Piers do an interview like this. It was super chill and really good.

[@wanksey5693]

hmmm sadly too many lies as always with retired bb stars😢😢😢

[@wanksey5693]

horw

[@braggerace5544]

Absolutely love Phil Heath

[@fareedingram4626]

Phil Heath was a brother from the hood that found his “ Gift “ an gave it to the world!! Phill was genuinely a Gift to see his performance @ the level he performed !!

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

I used to be a harsh critic of Phil Heath until I met him, and then I realised how easy it is to judge without really knowing. Seeing this interview simply confirms the man that he is. Meeting him and speaking to him i learnt that he is intelligent, well spoken, humble and down to earth, and he has become a great ambassador for the sport, and a voice of reason in these times. Phil, you've made a fan out of me.

[@beewalk34]

I met Phil back in 2008 at my last bodybuilding show. We shared dumbbells backstage to pump up. Great guy!!!

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Phil was great when I met him... Got to film him training with Arnold for my channel at the recent expo... Generally think he mainly gets a bad rap from the role he was cast in for Generation Iron and the run-ins he had with some social media guys who were being disrespectful... :)

[@Shreadington]

I got to meet Jay Cutler at my show in 2003. Such a great guy and huge inspiration to me. I still compete in the Masters. I won a Masters Championship in Bodybuilding and Classic in 2019 at 40 and 2023 at 45. Jay's era had the best bodybuilders in my opinion.

[@elliottsantiago1638]

You mean yaw shared 💉. 🤓🥊

[@mechadonia]

@@ShreadingtonJay cutler is such a cool dude. I ran into him at Newark airport when I was 16. I was so star struck as a kid when I saw him all etiquette left my brain and I blatantly interrupted his conversation to ask if he was Jay Cutler. Instead of getting annoyed or curt he was super understanding and even offered to take a picture with me.

[@Shreadington]

@@mechadonia Jay is super cool. I met Flex Wheeler too. He talked to me and my buddies for 10 minutes while others waited. Super down to earth guy. It was his last guest posing before his last Olympia win. After he posed he told everyone he was going back to his table so fans could come talk with him. Nicest guy! The rudest one I witnessed was Justin Compton. He was an asshole. Really short with everyone and just wanted to sit, eat, and not be bothered to much.

[@SimonFan]

Great interview! I was lucky enough to watch the premiere of Breaking Olympia with Phil!

[@marky-marks]

Was actually good seeing Phil like this. Chilled and just chatting openly. Fair play

[@BMO_Creative]

Phil; is able to flip the script and turn the interview around and make it more of a conversation. Pretty cool.

[@wmoule]

Because it's literally a none topic as everybody at the top level is on the same things.

[@tollph3314]

@@wmoule at least he admitted it finally and not denyinf for rest of his life like some

[@petershortland478]

​@tollph3314, that's because he isn't performing. when you are performing, you are obviously never going to admit to it

[@Sensei_Brauk_Li]

He’s my personal favorite Olympian. His body is insane. Love Phil Heath

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Phil was great when I met him... Got to film him training with Arnold for my channel at the recent expo... Generally think he mainly gets a bad rap from the role he was cast in for Generation Iron and the run-ins he had with some social media guys who were being disrespectful... :)

[@ricardoferreira2038]

He is very small framed

[@oliverholst5576]

Phil is a genuinely lovely guy.

[@TVResults]

Great advice about printing the photos of yourself and then tailoring the training to what you want to add. I wish I would have started it much sooner, getting great results doing that. I also like the advice about not telling others what you are doing with meals or this/that, just do what you have to do. Nobody is really paying that much attention to you anyway. Great interview.

[@mountainlogistics9882]

What a great genuine chat which showed the real side of both of them.

[@murkinlopez6162]

I was so sure that piers was gonna go woke with CNN and the rest of mainstream media. Now he is the only news outlet I listen to. Thanks for proving me wrong piers ❤

[@gj1695]

Piers has certainly stepped up his game. He now listens and engages in thoughtful discourse -- instead of interrupting all the time. Props to Piers for listening to his son -- whom he said gave him that advice.

[@hassyg4083]

@@gj1695 not really. he has nothing to press a bodybuidler on, not much politics

[@bruuhhhh]

Tbf he did still interrupt a fair bit here. He gets a lot of undue criticism imo but the interrupting is completely fair he's bad for it. Improving though I think

[@chadskiles4396]

@@hassyg4083I’m sure he did his homework. Maybe you need to get off KZbin and do your homework kiddo

[@lukekerry3195]

@@chadskiles4396 You don't understand his point quite clearly

[@jackcameron1360]

Never thought I would enjoy this one as much as I did. Best one in a while!

[@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67]

Same,what a nice fella!

[@bt2476]

That was a fun interview! Made a Phil Heath fan out of me. Seems like a very nice and down to earth fellow.

[@alfredbarron5227]

Good interview and it's refreshing to see Piers allowing Phil to speak without interruption. Phil has grown in character, and he comes across with the right pitch with a touch of class.

[@drmarkp1]

.. Great to hear that Piers is doing weights and fitness training

[@davidunoi7099]

Thankyou Piers for having Phil on your show!! Truly truly made my day!!

[@bobbywashington6691]

Upset with myself that the title grabbed me. Dude is super positive and worked hard, and made the amazing sacrifice

[@marieallegro3515]

Great interview. Nice seeing Phil getting out there promoting the sport of bodybuilding. He definitely seems more at ease than when he was Mr O. I guess he was very focused. I never had a bad experience with him but just didn't seem as approachable as he is today. But congratulations on an awesome interview

[@IanMartin-ev6fz]

Classy act how Phil enquires about Piers and listens with intent and compliments as well. Cool dude. Humble. Respect

[@Phantumflame]

I love pierce so much 😂. This is by far my favorite news and informational show.

[@kamranraja9197]

Good dude I f you don’t care about humans. In gaza

[@Gym_Invest78]

Amazing to see a true legend on this channel! Please include more ppl from bodybuilding and strongman🙏 Would be interesting to see Brian Shaw and Jay Cutler together for a discussion on this channel!

[@masonictrucker8031]

A lot of new found respect for Piers getting Phil Heath on here, well done sir 🤝

[@reecejoyce5183]

Everyone new to the bodybuilding scene unaware of the humble guys. Theres loads of guys just as nice and big as him, chris.B is another fine example

[@vinomeknow6100]

Lol delusional

[@mikebird5148]

IMO the 2nd best bodybuilder ever, behind Ronnie Coleman, Phil at his peak was INSANE.

[@shawnwhelan7746]

I hate to be the person that compares anyone to the generally agreed upon GOAT, BUT to be controversial. I genuinely think Phil at his peak has the more aesthetically pleasing physique. Obviously everyone credits Ronnie due to his absurd size and proportions. But dude Phil’s physique all around is like a Greek God blown up to a mass monster. Him and Cutler both, regardless of size, were so blessed genetically with proportionate physiques.

[@mikebird5148]

@@shawnwhelan7746 Oh I definitely agree that Phil's physique was far more visually pleasing, but bodybuilding isn't a beauty contest lol, it's about who's better at all the mandatory poses, and while I agree with you, that Phil at his peak was absolute spectacle, Ronnie would beat him in more mandatory poses.

[@Innermostmoon112]

@@mikebird5148just to play the other side, Phil had the more complete and consistent mandatories imo

[@TheFatMan]

Not even top 10, the 70s guys definitely produced the GOAT. You had Arnold, Mentzer, Zane. Among others. They were aesthetically pleasant, Phil Heath was part of the "All the Mr Olympia lose their hair due to steroids and everyone looks the same" era

[@shawnwhelan7746]

@@TheFatMan I prefer golden era physiques way more. I agree with you. Classic coming back has made me so happy. Just love Phil 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@VintageGenetics]

So refreshing to hear such an intelligent man such as Phil giving bodybuilding a good name. Incredible representative.

[@adamcooper8463]

That was good, totally different kinda interview. Enjoyed that.

[@J-ake]

Armwrestling is becoming big!

[@billj4525]

Levan vs Devon. I can't wait for that match.

[@J-ake]

@@billj4525 me neither! Can't wait for the whole EvW card 🙌🏼

[@friendlyjunco6836]

Just watched an older tv show called Game Of Arms. Now I'm hooked

[@J-ake]

@@friendlyjunco6836 it's a tragedy season 2 has never been released!

[@jimbeecharmgods]

If you want to see some entertaining armwrestling then give Armgods a follow. Particularly look out for the Connor sale vs Matt smith match. Absolute cracker.

[@philforde5871]

Phil Heath seems a nice guy, very humble too.

[@mikenewman3148]

Met Phil last month at the Arnold, he’s genuinely one of the nicest guys I’ve ever spoken to, and really cared about the experience for fans of bodybuilding

[@ColonelJohnmatrix1000]

I prefer Phil Heath in retirement than when he was competing. Because he has so much more time to pass on his knowledge and experiences in life that I find very inspirational. When he was competing there was no time to show the world who he really was because he was at war with his competitors. So now we get to see the real man and he’s a very good person. Positive, insightful and truly motivational.

[@shanghaiffgg]

Phil was quite reserved here, looked a little nervous. I have followed him for his entire career and he is a champion through and through. Enormous self discipline and god given genetics. Its good to see him, and the sport, get some recognition.

[@emanthechamp]

I’d be nervous too. Being successful in a lot of this stuff is marketing. You speak common sense on a lot of the issues like he did he could lose his ability to pay for his home, training etc all because some sponsors don’t want any “controversial opinions”. Anything that resembles thought processes of the 1990s/2000s is out completely “out of date today”.

[@martijndegraef8661]

I dont really see him as nervous. He is rather calm tbh. But it wouldnt be weird when having nerves at a podcast. Especially a podcast of this large proportions

[@korbindallas8224]

Nah he's definitely playing the Mr Nice Guy bit, staying super safe, smiling extra big and wide. Kind of like how you would talk to your mom and dad's friends when they introduced you to them lol. It's all good, he's makin money. Would have been nice to see a candid interview though. This fake TV crap is tough to sit through.

[@EDF63]

GREAT INTERVIEW....THIS GUY IS PURE MUSCLE POWER BUT BEHIND THIS POWER HE IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN....

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Phil was great when I met him... Got to film him training with Arnold for my channel at the recent expo... Generally think he mainly gets a bad rap from the role he was cast in for Generation Iron and the run-ins he had with some social media guys who were being disrespectful... :)

[@NattyHub]

Is it really "PURE MUSCLE POWER" when you're on steroids and P.E.D.'s your entire career and on TRT for the rest of one's retirement? I don't know. Just asking the question what pure muscle power is. I have seen old natural guys sprinting in the park or on the beach. What is "pure" power?🤔

[@MrFreaksized]

@@NattyHubwhy do you keep asking questions on every comment. We get it you don’t like science and steroids… ok then don’t take them. But no one wants to see natty shows. They sucks

[@johnbless1423]

⁠@@MrFreaksizedagreed.

[@ricardoferreira2038]

You are in love with him maric$n

[@chadskiles4396]

This was absolutely amazing!! I love Phil and his additive even towards things he doesn’t necessarily agree with. ❤

[@jasonwardell7472]

Phil is legend. He has really come out of his shell since stepping off the stage. Well-spoken, intelligent, and a great ambassador for the sport. Congrats on the doc Phil , its really good

[@shaunconaty1]

Great interview with Phil, true gentleman and great ambassador for bodybuilding 👏

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Phil was great when I met him... Got to film him training with Arnold for my channel at the recent expo... Generally think he mainly gets a bad rap from the role he was cast in for Generation Iron and the run-ins he had with some social media guys who were being disrespectful... :)

[@sanjay4elite]

Should've had this segment little longer 'coz the knowledge that Phil can preach is invaluable 🤷

[@peterw616]

This was much better than I thought it would be! :)

[@chimdiebubeobijuru1937]

Just few days ago I played this conversation in my head about trans in bodybuilding I even had Phil Heath's name and today I'm watching this,😁 Enjoyed every bit of this video, it was good conversation. Phil is a true Mr. O

[@AbsoluteMotivation]

Very classy gentleman. Great interview.

[@inf423]

Very classy roid addict

[@mulcrackers43]

Glad he didn't focus on drug aspect and taught people how hard it really is! Nutrition and keeping healthy blood panels what it's all about! Great interview Piers and Phil! Peace!

[@hassyg4083]

drugs is the major part

[@wanksey5693]

ohhyehhhh

[@LS-fd6tl]

​@hassyg4083 if it was just because of drugs then why didn't I win any Olympia's? I've used them, didn't achieve anywhere near 7 Olympia titles

[@hassyg4083]

@@LS-fd6tl did you even enter?

[@LS-fd6tl]

@hassyg4083 didn't even turn pro pal, competing at the local/regional level but I didn't have what it takes to go any further than that.

[@joel_13_]

I met him once, he spent a good 10 mins talking to me. Such a genuine guy.

[@Big_dazb]

I met Phil at an expo many years ago when Jay was still Mr.O, and it baffled me the reputation he had once he was Mr.O, as the man i met was an absolute gent! It was a pleasure to meet him. And in this interview i think he portrays that more gentlemanly side which i believe is his true nature. Lovely guy. He came across, really articulate and intelligent. Conducted himself very well. 👍 and well done to Piers, for hosting such a mature and well thought out interview with a great world champion of bodybuilding, too many ‘journalists’ do not take bodybuilders seriously. Whether you agree with their choices to use PED’s or not is irrelevant, its their choice, and its in their sport, and its not tested so its a level playing field and at least within bodybuilding its more ‘open & honest’ and a very mature discussion held by both men. Great interview. Look forward to Phil’s documentary now 👍

[@lukeet331]

Asking the Mr Olympia what he's learned grom the Rock us absolutely mental lol

[@Underhills]

Well, he may have picked up some PEDs pointers.

[@Ismael916]

Well the Rock and Arnold are the two most successful muscle bound humans.

[@lukeet331]

@@Ismael916 the Rock is literally just an actor lol

[@Mobiletouchexpressdetailing]

Bodybuyilding deserves more recognition as a sport! No sport tests your limit like bodybuilding does! its you vs you alone in bodybuilding!

[@hassyg4083]

not really ur competing against others

[@Mobiletouchexpressdetailing]

@@hassyg4083 true, but you do everytthing from diet to training yourself! Other then a coach! You do it all alone! Where in other sports your always doing things with a team!

[@hassyg4083]

i disagree when they go to the gym they are always working out with others even have spotters and people around for advice aswell as dr's for tests..mights aswell be a team. you could say same about sports like boxing snooker golf darts etc

[@Mobiletouchexpressdetailing]

@@hassyg4083 disagree or agree, idc what opinion you have, seems like you don’t get the point my point is it’s a one man sport, it’s not the nfl, basketball, soccer! That why it deserves recognition! I’m not saying they don’t workout with others and stuff! I’ve been in the sport for 10 years! I dont need to hear it from randoms!

[@hassyg4083]

@@Mobiletouchexpressdetailing 1 man like Tiger Woods?

[@goldenboyproductions7229]

This was refreshing. Thanks for the interview

[@happy_jcg]

Phil has become a great ambassador of the sport since he retired from competition. I wish he was this personable while he was competing. This was a great interview.

[@deepakkrishna9750]

Sneaky Phil evaded the ped question 😂. Turned it into a health marker

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Cant really expect the most high profile people to be totally candid about stuff like that because of the legalities/taboos. I cover PEDs issues on my channel if that's your thing though :)

[@KRATOS3333BROADWAY]

Yup

[@marquardmeiring618]

Pretty sure admitting to doing something illegal can get you arrested and in other troubles. Look at what happened to Nathan De-Asha. Visa problems.

[@Lotussta]

Hard to sit in mainstream media and be like "Lolbruh I took 5g of shit a week and five insulin and hgh pins a day yo"

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

@@Lotussta hahaha... Exactly. :)

[@markscholey2101]

Hey Piers, is Jay Cutler next?

[@doudymac]

Yes... And also Kai. I'm sure Piers would like to know the details behind his exit.

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

That would be awesome - love Jay :)

[@marquardmeiring618]

Brian Shaw or Eddie Hall, maybe both.

[@stephenswindle3839]

Great interview man couldn’t have been more professional and cordial between you too two thumbs up.👍👍💯🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏

[@MrShahrozzz]

Craziest part is, prime Phil Heath was wayy bigger! Arguably best arms of all time 💪🏽

[@jaydentate6080]

Brilliant never expected this

[@mrmawson2438]

Very different today

[@pennyfoel]

I agree I watched the whole thing, thought it was nice to let Phil heath talk about what it takes to be a body builder.

[@billydmac10]

Really cool segment. It’s so interesting how people not into bodybuilding think bodybuilders are “strong”. Though Phil is strong that’s never been his calling card and in the industry wouldn’t be considered strong. Phil is a great ambassador for the sport.

[@akkestrel3371]

I like Phil but so many people talk about he beeing rude to fans.. He likes to have the attencion and famous but at the same time doest want to face the consequences of it.

[@drjay73]

Most of the people saying those kinds of things are just mad because he beat all of their favorite bodybuilders 7 times. His appearance on this show proves your last statement to be false.

[@akkestrel3371]

@@drjay73 Coatch Rubens (judge), Renato Cariani (the biggest brazilean influencer and youtuber about gym), Julio Balestrin (the best trainer in brazil), Felipe Franco (mens phisique pro athlete) All of them talked in the pass about he beeing rude to fans and always rejecting pictures. Do not put your hand in the fire, for the things your not shure.

[@wmoule]

Everybody is "cheating" in high level professional bodybuilding. It's hardly a "gotcha" moment.

[@SouthpawHuncho]

Phil as a master at talking with the media . What an excellent interview on his part

[@mattpinnington4778]

Cholesterol can still be high... get it checked every few months.

[@hassyg4083]

its high in bodybuilders

[@hassyg4083]

@@gumengill have you not seen the amount bodybuilders dead for heart problems? ignorant aren't you

[@JS45678]

Clearly no performance enhancing drugs. This is the result of a lifetime of hard work, clean diet, and a strong faith. 😏

[@ugk26]

Such a smug response. I could give you all the steroids, HGH and insulin in the world, you will NEVER look like him. Not a chance. The PEDs are like waxing a car. It gives you a polish, but it won’t change a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. It’s more genetics and consistency than any other thing you mentioned.

[@jaydentate6080]

​@@ugk26you just no this guy has never been in a gym and is definitely a chubby

[@gruunt4064]

wow did you come up with that yourself, that is original, same boring claim but strangely every one of you trolls think they are being clever and original, duh i think we knew he takes steroids, why would he not, just like if he wants to increase muscle he will eat more protein, steroids is only cheating in a drug free sport like the Olympics , do you think they all sit about doing nothing because they have taken something that helps development ? no they are the best in the world and competing against each other so even with steroids they are prepared to work as hard and disciplined as possible to beat the next guy, you aren't getting an advantage if everyone takes steroids

[@Spike-yc5gx]

He’s had a good chemist. 😂

[@robertwilson5305]

L

[@MrTyakaflex]

Great interview. Definitely shows a side of Phil's personality that I haven't seen before. Seems much more laid back and most likely enjoying life more now.

[@untilyoupuke]

He’s off the gas you lose that extreme drive to be #1

[@mazetoeden9334]

Phil improved so much, I used to really dislike him while he was still competing. I like him like this, good for him, wish him all the best

[@NoshikiYT]

Wow that’s a lot of steroids

[@Frank-mi2fn]

Steriods!

[@GavinCee]

no shit sherlock. What's your point?

[@wanksey5693]

its deadly

[@hassyg4083]

@@gumengill wouldnt call bodybuilders healthy loads have died. even obese people out live them

[@hassyg4083]

@@gumengill doubt it. bodybuilding ain't healthy . they die sooner than obese people

[@marquardmeiring618]

Nooooooo! Really?

[@ahmetakincilosangeles]

Great Interview Guys. Well Done!

[@RealNOPAINSNOGAINS]

It's awesome to see bodybuilders get recognized and are somewhat being brought into the mainstream

[@sosministriesrev1412]

That was a really great interview! Well done Piers and well done Phil.

[@Maikelswe1985]

That arm wrestling fight in the end EPIC stuff well done Piers!

[@midnytevega2777]

Was never a Phil heath fan and his fued with Kai Greene only worsened that, but since his Olympia loss, this guy has transformed into an incredible human being. I hope I'm alive to see much more of him. I tip my hat to you Champ

[@combatkiller7881]

WoW!!! What a wonderful individual, this guy is so down to earth. Cant believe it that Piers beat him in an arm wrestle!!! I guess when you do kill someone with kindness amazing things can happen.... Nice interview...

[@swedroot2867]

Phil was absolutely great here, have followed the bodybuilding stuff for a while but never actually seen much of him talking like this

[@Lukeandrewscarnivore]

Phil was so incredibly diplomatic here. And a really good ambassador for bodybuilding.

[@austinsteyn]

Great Interview! Huge respect to Phil Heath public speaking and expressing an honest and hugely experienced view of Body Building.

[@melusishange3471]

I started to follow him around 2012 he is one of the guys I enjoyed watching no swearing always calm and well articulate..

[@areichental]

Met Phil before his pro debut. Super sweet guy. Really proud of all his success. Class act all the way.

[@verginone]

Great interview he did not shy away from any topic 👏

[@makingwaves1239]

I can't understand that people really think it is a question whether they use steroids in professional bodybuilding. Every IFBB pro bodybuilder is using steroids. Without any exception. That also counts for classic bodybuilding and fitness. Not even up for discussion.

[@sammuslu2992]

As a bodybuilder myself and a fan of Phil and piers this has made my day 😊

[@silentbutdeadly7032]

I met Phil once in Portage Michigan at a gym. He was getting ready to appear on a show in Kalamazoo Michigan. He was a very cool guy and I'll never forget him! He's the only famous person I ever met! The only thing I regret is I didn't ask for his autograph!😢

[@user-ge2oh8nj5h]

This was amazing! Thanks to Piers and Phil!

[@cookieXmonsterBlox]

Phil is really great! His humility and temperament transcends nicely to talking about lots of topics👏👏👏 politics in the window ??

[@gojete]

good to hear that you are pumpin some iron piers. never stop!

[@drewwerts7711]

Pierce Morgan. You are a good dude. Keep up the good work and videos. I met Phil Heath and he is a monster.