Yes... They Actually Wrote Those Dialogues in Dragon Age Veilguard

[@TT-rq3so]

the writers are a bit obsessed with relationships and sex, there is no organic banter

[@joshuagreer8046]

A bunch immature adults stuck within tumblrs and any other online forum due to ,, too many unresolved problems is what comes to mind

[@zuundasz1700]

thats lgbtq and woke for you , a bunch of obsessed ppl

[@Daniikar]

Brah. I just finished this game completely. And there is no sex or even kissing or anything in this game. It's totally an A sexual game 😅

[@chess6620]

@@Wolfe420 There actually are 'those' types of people on the creative team. I don't know how many or what percentage, but there are at least a few. Bunch of nobodies who had no business working on a AAA game like this but privileged other people out of the work.

[@Raptorialand]

@@TT-rq3so I am sry but this does not sound like sextalking... this sounds like pubescents talking about how to do it.

[@al6243]

It's like I'm reading a fanfic on Wattpad.

[@zeventyfive7050]

Some fanfics have better writting honestly.

[@KeivSquirrel]

On script format

[@Eualia]

​@@zeventyfive7050Honestly a non english individual could write abetter english dialogue then this

[@ciontachthecthonicchampion3576]

I would bet real money. Real actual money. That a good portion of this game is lifted directly from an in office dnd campaign. Just think about how much it explains.

[@ninjafrog6966]

i’ve seen better on wattpad than this game. give wattpad some credit

[@n_.alexandra6133]

I miss the British accents in medieval games. Everyone here sounds like they're from California.

[@SkunkfapGaming]

honestly just anything other than an American accent

[@mohammadjavadyeganeh5292]

You're not wrong.

[@NoelistAvenger]

Because of their accent, or their dialogues ?

[@Casual_Genshin_Player]

@@NoelistAvenger both

[@AKayKayXOXOXO]

You’re deaf lol they deff have British accents

[@olgagerman9216]

"magic is stupid" Such highly literary dialogue

[@clerical88]

Everytime its T(r)aash.Every single time.

[@kos]

T is T(r)aash. T is for Tranny.

[@OrenTubing]

In general i find it pathetic that every character in the game is so fkin ugly but they keep flirting with each other like theyre hot😅

[@SuperLazer64]

imagine if a real person talks like this?

[@signalnine2601]

wow. did that just happen?

[@SuperLazer64]

@@signalnine2601 not yet

[@mjevictor19.49]

They did it inside the studio

[@OilyMachine]

"I am not drunk. You're drunk!" ~trash comment

[@VadeInSpiritu]

I’ve met them before

[@SaintWarrior94]

interesting that the non-binary character refuses to respect the mage's wishes by not calling him a 'death mage"

[@Hope_Prevail]

Hypocritical you mean, the writers could have at least redeemed themselves a bit by exploring this Hypocritical side of her and giving rook the chance to call her out but no she must be treated with the utmost respect regardless of what she does

[@aeureus]

Exactly.

[@shiblinomanalif2102]

Every scene with tash is a torture

[@ERBaruin]

I dont think Bellara understands what a trap is. For someone that spends time in ruins and the sort that would be valuable knowledge

[@BehuraStudio]

Imagine if Dwemer scholars in Skyrim didn’t know they were EXTREMELY dangerous ruins 🤦

[@ERBaruin]

@@BehuraStudio Ohh that dwarven centurion? He just wanted to shine your boots

[@SUPPLEGENIUS]

Traps in Oblivion: *slams you into the ceiling at mach speed* Traps in Veilguard: "So uhhmm, I'm non-binary"

[@sabbathb6548]

Honestly her explanation sounds half assed to me. Either she doesn’t know what’s she’s talking about or is making fun of Traash.

[@nyx2903]

Even the magic that's just there to shine on peoples boots is trying to kill Taash. That's how dislikable this character is. If you would put Taash into the real world your fridge would probably try to kill her as well. This would be good marketing for fridges though. Some manufacturer should base a marketing campaign on this.

[@nugget7865]

If Taash was in the real world there's a > 50% probability even she would kill herself.

[@MinhVu-nw7kl]

@@nugget7865*they

[@MinhVu-nw7kl]

And *themself

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

​@@MinhVu-nw7kl Oh no, they didn't use the delusional pronouns of a near universally panned fictional character! Society will never recover!

[@panwu6602]

@@nugget7865 Yup, somewhere between 40 and 50% 🤣

[@sepulchurr]

The banter between Alistair and Morrigan in Origins solos all of these

[@MuffHam]

I loved there banter.

[@J03m0mma69]

The worst Origins banter BODIES this fucking pigshit slop

[@therealone844]

@@J03m0mma69 ogrehn or Sten would make them cry Lol

[@visidenvisidane1155]

Oblivion NPC dialogue would be a vast improvement over this. I’d rather be amused than annoyed.

[@JayShootHer]

Not now, not later, not ever.

[@MugiwaraMonday]

Heard any news from the other provinces?

[@zena2239]

​@@MugiwaraMonday Nothing I'd like to talk about

[@MugiwaraMonday]

@@zena2239 Farewell.

[@zena2239]

@MugiwaraMonday Bye. ... Well met!

[@GPEART1]

It sounds like an AI wrote this crap.

[@bluesmurff6163]

that might be it

[@Sheevlord]

You need a particularly lobotomized AI to write something as awful. Even then it's no guarantee. Actually, if you find a piece of dialogue in Veilguard that seems half decent - that's probably AI. The cringe parts were written by "queerosexual gendermancers"

[@bubblegumxo]

*laugh track plays at your comment* 😂

[@Sheevlord]

Not sure why my comment doesn't show up. Anyways, don't blame AI for cringe. This was written by a human 100%. If AI was to rewrite all dialogue in the game it would be a huge improvement.

[@GPEART1]

@Sheevlord Well, you may be 100% correct on that, this writing is absolute trash.

[@Frostydog-99]

Its giving.... Dollar tree Balder's Gate

[@elenalizabeth]

😂 when you want to make the next bg3 but you ordered your writers from Wish

[@Isa-sv4jz]

It's giving dollar tree dragon age 2, this shit is not even a joke compared to BG

[@CapucineNighly]

DA2 has better banter than this and I replayed that game twice, once before this dumpsterfire and after to see which is worst. At least there were likable characters in 2. I hate every companion here and I will set them to fail just coz I dislike them all.

[@RtsFps1]

Gods, I feel grateful to have been able to play and experience BG3.

[@maryi685]

Yeah just started it myself. Too bad we probably won't experience another game like this in 20 years or so lol. Bioware isn't even interested in making actual RPGs it seems. Not anymore.

[@ezzahhh]

"Hand to bone combat" 💀💀💀

[@KisekiFan]

And these same people would complain that gamers are only interested in p*rn for wanting sexy female characters. Also the dwarf dialog with Varric and Dorian was more interesting and funny Dorian: alright dwarf, pay up Varric: What you talking about? Dorian: you said we would be ass deep in trouble, that was knee high Varric: I didn't say whose ass now did I? Dorain: leave it to a dwarf to change the bar.

[@Sviorr]

Ah, if people are comparing those to this level than I get what all the fuss is about😂

[@_ryju_]

It has way more entertainment value when you put the laugh tracks in! 🤣

[@Raptorialand]

This game clearly aimed for a really young audience... the too young but play it anyway audience.

[@mo-em1ke]

Made to groom a young audience like everything else these people are involved in.

[@melr8850]

It is crazy because that’s exactly what I thought - it’s like it’s for 12-15 year olds despite being ‘Mature’. It’s so childish throughout

[@BehuraStudio]

Gimli: “From where i stand you’re all legs” Legolas: “They come together eventually” Gimli: “*giggles*” ……What have i done

[@BySpartan]

get out

[@Shimamon27]

Don't forget to say the last line in Linkin park!

[@ruthenius682]

Curse you

[@yosefyonin6824]

you will never walk upright again now that your back is forever crushed by the weight of the sin you have just comitted here

[@LadyDecember]

May your crops never flourish and may your wife's womb never bear fruit

[@FurbleBurble]

There are people who act like Taash is the sole reason this game gets the hatred it does: "Of course people hate it, it's inclusive!" From what I have been able to gather from watching numerous videos, Taash is the _least_ of this game's problems, or damn near. Also, "Let's just ignore 20+ years of BioWare's LGBT representation in their games because that doesn't support our narrative of gamer bigotry." Sales of BioWare's games and gamer demographics proves that gamers _largely_ don't care about inclusion. It's not about inclusion; it's about how it's handled.

[@herrzimm]

Sigh, the BEST thing about DA:V is that it made me want to play DA:O - DA:I all over again FOR the character interactions and nothing else.

[@NinjaFlibble]

Say what you will about DA:I and it's story, it was better than this. Yeah, I know that's a ridiculously low bar. That's the sad thing.

[@TakanoIchikawa]

I wonder what you do with all the time you saved not writing the full game names....

[@TurncoatCharles]

Yea i am replaying da:o because of this, i never had awakening before. It is so good! I forgot how in depth the character customization is! And of course the story is incredible

[@ТАДАМ-ю4ж]

Dragon age 2 masterpiece too

[@alisalbulushi]

Its like fan fiction, of the homosexual variety.

[@mouseymousey02]

Hey now, some of that gay fanfic actually sounds like it was written by a real person

[@xord6286]

gay one direction fanfic is probably better written than this

[@CapucineNighly]

Hey, BL novels are better written than this dumpster fire. This is so cringe bad it's like.. Did thr writers know how people converse with each other or they just asked chatgpt to do it for them. 🤔

[@NM-ok9wb]

Why does every gay dude in games have to be a copy paste Dorian? Can't there be gay dudes that act less like a flamboyant british man??? I'm seriously so tired of it. Flamboyant gay sexually free dudes are not the only gay dudes in existence, this shit looks like it was made by Netflix.

[@blaccket]

Whoever wrote these banter has never spoken to a human being in his life

[@SchulzEricT]

Its* AI doesn't have a gender

[@stakholmsd]

and there's delusional people who love everything about this game, no matter how bad they are.

[@andyzehner3347]

delusional.

[@stakholmsd]

@@andyzehner3347 thank you

[@tungnse]

The person who corrected your typo may be one of them

[@callummcintyre713]

No, they just pretend to. One accused me of "just following the crowd" when I criticized it. Pretty much insinuating that he only "likes" it to be different.

[@melr8850]

Do people actually seriously love this game? I’ve seen only negative critiques, even at best, people say the dialogue is very weak.

[@bubblegumxo]

That background Elder Scrolls music kills me every time. 😂😂😂 I really hate this new style of writing in games where they try to be hip and quirky and witty with every little snippet. Some defenders claim this is how real people talk, but it always feels the opposite. Like it actually comes full circle and feels jarring BECAUSE you can tell they are trying to make it seem casual and "realistic". Like I truly believe people are capable of writing good and natural, and yes even silly/witty, dialogue, but this ain't it dawg.

[@Liniya.]

I feel like what you're describing is largely a kind of 'default American' writing style, like no one can say a simple thing in plain text, they have to be all stand-up comedy or otherwise 'smart ass' about it somehow all the time. Very bizarre, very apparent in dubs/translation too where in the original you just have like 2 people talking normally most of the time

[@olivercharles2930]

"style of writing in games where they try to be hip and quirky and witty with every little snippet" Good god, I absolutely hate this trope and how common it is in modern games.

[@olivercharles2930]

@@ksajfs We can mock these clowns wihtout this goofy boomer BS.

[@alvardiez838]

Back in the day people in fantasy games spoke a British, medieval like-accent but now they sound straight out of some LA district

[@firstnamesurname3445]

Modern upper British English is not what medieval Brits sounded like

[@TruthWillFreeYou]

Not in Dragon Age. The accent is tied to where you are from in this series. There have always been American accents in DA. It's the dialogue being spoken, not the accents that is the problem. It was written by a far-left ideologue. It sounds really bad because it’s written by someone who is not very intelligent. Dwarves and Qunari have always had the American accent. The Fereldens are British, the Orlesians are French, and the Antivans are Spanish.

[@joelkorhonen3170]

Those convos sound like devs tried to copy the horniness of BG3, only to fail miserably in it.

[@Ankylosaurus_mangiventris]

Yeah the writing for bg3 is literally Shakespeare compared to this slop. It’s beyond insulting playing bg3 and trying this after

[@riffgroove]

It's like Chat GPT wrote all the dialogue for this game... but HR was in the room with it the entire time.

[@michael2968]

dragon age is dead, look how they massacred my boy....

[@gideondavid30]

Godfather ...

[@arnodorian1620]

Meanwhile in the witcher universe: "You know what they call him? the butcher of blaviken" "What'd he do there, trim the trees?"

[@firstdondiego]

It boggles my mind why they would take a human man's face and put it on a female qunari body then make the character the most obnoxious person in the game. It's like they intentionally wanted this to fail.

[@chaoticneutralgiraffe5514]

This game should be a case study on how these sort of people mind's work and how disconected from reality and human interaction they really are..

[@d1jal]

These characters definitely go to hairdressers that ask permission to touch their hair

[@Warfolomei]

While I agree on the rest, the magic 'degradation over time' is actually an interesting topic.

[@SonOfNone]

*_DEI, it's in the game_*

[@ricardorodrigues2656]

People wrote and voiced these lines and really thought they were okay😓

[@matthewmyers7075]

After watching this I am non-buynary.

[@neolynxer]

Don't disrespect Oblivion soundtrack with this.

[@sleeplesspersonunslept]

the oblivion music makes it so much better 😂

[@Okinawatrip]

I really feel for the voice actors who had to go through this and stay professional.

[@Shimamon27]

Whenever you want to test out if your dialogue is amusingly terrible, just add oblivion music to examine it.

[@majuv9317]

the only fantasy about any of this is the intended audience..

[@shivala]

Tumbler fan fic, that you?

[@Morunic777]

Makes you miss old video games, where humor is topnotch and not weird

[@Kaliah83]

I feel sorry for poor Emmrich having to endure all that bullshit from that people

[@theblackdagger4566]

Why do they sound like a gun is to the back of their heads

[@dubbzy92]

Bellara sounded like she was confusing herself

[@jonathankozenko]

Writing like this is a reminder that dry, semi-lifeless dialogue is always better than overly long, meandering dialogue written by someone who thinks they’re exceedingly clever

[@AzraelBloodstorm]

What the hell kind of drugs were the writers on?

[@TurtleOfChaos7]

Is this how it starts? Is this the begining of insanity?

[@amharbingerreactions]

I remember in Dragon Age Origins, Wynne and Alistair had a playful but kind mother-son relationship. Wynne even remarked on Alistair's dirty soak and cleaned it for him. Eventually, Wynne got comfortable enough to talk to Alistair about her son and having to give him up because she was in the Circle of Magi and hoping he grew up to be like him. It showed growth between the characters that they were more willing to share sensitive things about their past but also there were characters unwilling to look past the others actions. Compared that to this and it's almost an execution of a franchise.

[@SchulzEricT]

... their relationship was NOT familial. Too much flirting for that.

[@carolinedormant6798]

Patrick Weekes at his finest

[@TheHexening]

Insanity. Didn't he write Tali's romances for Mass Effect?

[@VerminaeSupremacy]

That would be Trick Weekes now that he has gone insa… I mean, non-binary

[@turtle5578]

The writing quality before he went nonbonary (Mordin, Wrex, Solas, Cole) and after (Taash, veilguard), is night and day.

[@nocturnal03]

yep. Everyone blaming ''DEI'' and ''young writers'' but it's actually a Bioware veteran helming this...and he wrote some solid stuff for Mass Effect and the Trespasser DLC. But he caught the gender identity virus.

[@turtle5578]

@@nocturnal03 yeah I used to not mind the gender identity stuff until I realize it could really fuck up one's brain lmao

[@pastramiking6874]

All the female voice actors sound like teenagers. They're not even trying to fit into the fantasy theme

[@Astro_Guy_1]

The jam and toast bit is kinda funny imo

[@joematthew495]

I was thinking at least the music is good and then i remembered its from oblivion

[@sansakka]

please tell me it was done for a AI low cost

[@tzielsky]

this is the only time I wish BGM to become much louder than dialogue, so I can only hear the music instrad those characters

[@keith5127]

I’ve never genuinely hated a video game character before I played this dumpster fire

[@nijinjin4559]

1:42 So what she is saying is, this magic is like some kind of outdated AI that failed to recognize people and so malfunctioned ? Like what even is ? Also how did we get from when magic is a force to be reckoned with, where mages have to be under close supervision by templars, to "magic is stupid"...

[@jakeryan2805]

Still blow my mind 1 million people bought this trash. I can only hope most of them stopped playing shortly after and regretted their choice immensely.

[@alosyus]

I can picture a blue haired overweighted girl finding this funny.

[@LordShrub]

The "iunno" (Baffled Sound) is so annoying. Modern speech for the modern audience breaks immersion.

[@RexRedwood]

Is it possible to just let all these companions die. Because this dialog is killing me. Holy crap was this written by a confused 12 year old?

[@angelsofblood9879]

Magical traps are now old spells for boot shining.

[@Sigismund-von-Luxembourg]

Triple A has turned into something that means the game will most likely suck nowadays.

[@bulbasaurbrutal5137]

Now there's a writer who took an IQ test and failed.

[@wilder11]

This is an insult to Oblivion dialog.

[@romanmelnychuk6897]

You know, with this background music and dialogues, veilguard feels like another strange mod for Oblivion.

[@Blagraite]

Low the oblivion music, is very loud

[@kamuroshiryu8453]

0:57 Maybe _below_ the cockles... Maybe in the _sub-cockle_ area. Maybe in the liver, maybe in the kidneys, maybe even in the colon... We don't know.

[@magdam1508]

When I was praising Baldur's gate for making Astarion feel like angsty OCs and making it feel right I didn't also praise the quality of wattpad! Astarion felt like OC angsty prompt made by professional writers with AMAZING animation and dialogues and voice acting. This is a wattpad fanfic of BG3.

[@calebmalpin6926]

Subotai: Look! Over the horizon. Dirt on the wind. Conan: Oh, wow! How could you see that far?! Are you, like, elfish or something? Subotai: Do you want me to be? Witch: You fear magic! Conan:... Its just, like, not very creative or beautiful just destroy things. I don't know, I... I guess I just don't believe in breaking things?

[@spacejunk2186]

Oblivion music was also the first thing I thought of when hearing characters in vailguard speak.

[@amdogg-b2v]

So many of the lines sound AI generated, both in voice and dialogue. It's driving me crazy. Why do so many of them sound deadpan at random intervals? Taash and Emmrich especially

[@behzadvasegh5844]

I can feel the HR breathing down my neck

[@Monstervolging]

When you've ever played only one RPG in your life and the only companion you've ever come across was the Adoring Fan:

[@Dennzyl]

well, it has one good thing... if you run out of words to describe the glory of "Baldurs Gate 3", you can show people the stark contrast of "near perfection" and "TRAASH", in form of... THIS!

[@bonstihlbourne9458]

The most insufferable character ever made, very fitting

[@sphyre1196]

You did well Corinne! Your horrid self insert single handedly made the game the Cringefest we all love to hate.

[@ItsThothTheIII]

Did the writers even play any of the other dragon age games?

[@Poopustheclown]

A passion for the material that came before is actually a big no no for modern AAA development

[@behzadvasegh5844]

No they didn't. I saw some of them they don't even remember name of solace and he said "he spends most of the time is his mind" he was talking about the veil 😭

[@frankenwaifu8092]

This game feels like every single person who worked on it was held at gunpoint by an HR worker

[@captainofthelemonwipes4160]

The Oblivion soundtrack is too pure for this! 😂

[@KG7777]

OK, that first bit was serviceable. Let me try to make it less overtly flirtatious. *ahem* Harding: "Taash, you're limping!" Taash: "No, I'm not." Harding: "Well, you seem to be favoring your left leg." Taash: "Oh, that, I stubbed my toe a ways ba-- Wait, were you staring at my legs?" Harding: "Taash, look at me. Legs are the first thing I notice about EVERYONE." Taash: "...OK, then, what's the SECOND thing you notice?" Harding: **stammers, trying to think of a rebuttal before giving up and sighing** ... Fair point. There, now there are two ways to interpret the scene: A) Harding shows genuine concern for Taash, who takes the opportunity to tease her about the height difference between them. Handing is forced to accept the joke based on a technical truth: that to look up at someone from behind, she would have to see their posterior as she points her gaze upwards. B) Harding really WAS looking at Taash's legs/backside and tries to deflect with a self-deprecating joke about her stature. Taash turns Harding's logic against her, forcing her to more-or-less admit she was being a pervert.

[@edgundaker5982]

Played this for a week and couldn't take it anymore.

[@gonalvarez]

i could not take even to buy this game

[@AbyssalPlague]

I actually had to pause the video. I couldn't keep listening to that...

[@victoriasharpe1661]

I went back to DAO and finished it on Friday night. How I missed the realistic organic banter between the companions. Especially Morrigan, not just with Alistair either

[@melanietevoortwis6073]

Yeah this is funnier then trowing goats, decide the faith of a box and "pick you up and thow you" Iron bull to Sera. or when Sera talks with Cassandra. Not to mention the side quest Swords and Shields...

[@al.mandez6721]

All of them are so lame

[@mellooozx]

It sounds like two A.I.s talking to each other.

[@ffh1234ffh]

My god it's not just the dialogue, it's the delivery too, what an awful voice acting!

[@wafflezz52]

TRAPS!? Where?!? I mean oh yeah haha fireballs...

[@lupusumbra8676]

This feels like some teenager's Dragon Age fanfiction.

[@TylerMcNamer]

At this point, I’m convinced real life trolls were responsible for this game.

[@renestubbe6465]

but hey, atleast bioware didn‘t bring up the non-binary nonsense in the trap conversation

[@jozefcyran2589]

Yeah I was waiting for it 😂

[@mermidion7552]

I think the game is not anime enough (yet) to bring up those kind of "traps" xD

[@PaleyDaley]

Dragon age: Personal Fetish Fanfic.

[@fyvura]

guys i’m a solas fan since i was like 15 years old will this game ruin him for me? i just want to play it for him but if they wrote him bad i’d rather opt out..

[@Hope_Prevail]

Trust me don't buy it, the plot about Solas is so poorly written and disappointing you'll save yourself the money and agony of seeing such well written characters reduced to predictable one dimensional placeholders

[@fyvura]

@ wow.. im not even disappointed just sad. Actually replayed inquisition this year because i was so excited. Thanks, will pretend it doesn’t exist because i expected it to at least do previous characters justice in not diminishing their already existing great depth

[@Basteal]

I really wish they'd done world building and interpersonal drama instead of shallow quips. Then again, that'd only make the KZbin videos I see about the game slightly better, it's not like I'm going to play it.

[@Spartan-cm1ru]

Its like watching some goons twitch chat