Yet Another Reason to Keep Your Kids Off the Internet

[@Darmok_onthe_ocean]

My, practically infant, was walking at 6 months. And she looked possessed and it was actually super creepy and people would look at her like she was a freak. So there’s that side, too😂

[@UnnaturalVegan]

🤣

[@alyssacadrian]

My parents told me when I was 9 months I stood up one day and started running and never stopped 🤣 I was a handful for sure lol

[@meganjoy9225]

My oldest didn’t walk until 18 months. My youngest was walking at 10 months. All kids are different and now at 11 and 13 they’re both fine!

[@powderandpaint14]

That is within the expected timelines. But a child not standing at all, talking at all etc would be concerning at 2 years old. It is impossible to tell whether a child is developing normally from very short video clips though.

[@Arnachistarchitect]

Caroline and her child don't look healthy tho, just saying.

[@-Reagan]

If a child isn’t able to sit without support at 6 months, they should have an evaluation by their pediatrician at the six month visit, pull herself to stand, holding objects by 9 months or they should be evaluated by a pediatrician, standing by 12 months, standing alone by 15 months, and if she’s unable to walk alone by 18 months they should be referred to a specialist for further evaluation. These are per the American Academy of Pediatrics guidelines.

[@TorieKidd]

Mine is 20 months and not walking yet, she's trying but she'll get there.. my oldest walked at 14 months

[@powderandpaint14]

@@TorieKidd if she's trying at that age then that's pretty normal.

[@annala2956]

"The internet is a disease"

[@Arnachistarchitect]

Why on it then?

[@livingter5079]

​@@Arnachistarchitectbecause we're all sick.

[@Arnachistarchitect]

@@livingter5079 fair

[@elise3455]

The internet is a wonderful thing, but yes, while it has rapidly allowed the spread of good ideas (like veganism), it's also a transmitter of bad ones..

[@MissMotek]

My friends kid started walking after her second birthday… she is 6 now and a totally normal child, and was omnivore from the start… Sometimes kids deviate from the norm, and don‘t need to be sick because of it

[@jf1837]

You'd never know from looking at her, but my daughter has mild cerebral palsy affecting her left side. She didn't start walking until almost 20 months. I constantly got the judgy "shouldn't she be walking by now?" type questions from everyone without them knowing the full story of our daily lives and it drove me crazy!

[@celinuchis90]

😢😢😢

[@youtubeKathy]

An Australian couple deprived their baby of nutrient to the extent they gave the baby cerebral palsy. Feed your kids dammit.

[@jf1837]

@@youtubeKathy my child suffered from strokes in utero and after birth which resulted in her CP diagnosis. It had nothing to do with malnutrition. Which is what happens in 90% of cases for those with cerebral palsy.

[@youtubeKathy]

@@jf1837 you mean, during your vegan pregnancy?

[@jf1837]

@@youtubeKathy Nice try. I ate eggs, chicken and fish during my pregnancy and took prenatal vitamins. Even still, I developed preeclampsia, which is most likely what contributed to pregnancy and birth complications. Any other questions?

[@Tiffacheez]

My daughter didn't talk at 18 months, and she didn't talk at 2 years old either, but it had nothing to do with her nutrition; she is autistic, which we found out with the help of actual doctors who are qualified to make diagnoses. The internet is crazy and will make wild assumptions, and I feel badly for mothers who get all this negative feedback on their babies. Even IF her baby isn't talking at this age, there are a multitude of reasons for why that might be, and only an actual doctor is qualified to make that assessment.

[@amyzinger4693]

Yeah, there are a million more likely explanations for delays…if there even are delays.

[@GivesMelissasABadName]

I totally agree with this. It happens so often. One time it was a mom whose child HAD received an autism diagnosis that she shared in a post and then deleted, opting to keep his medical stuff off the internet (a good decision). But most of her audience hadn’t seen that and spent months yelling in comments for her to take him to see a pediatrician bc they suspected autism. To be clear he was in seconds of her content once in a while, not daily or even often. I felt terrible that she made a good choice to maintain her son’s privacy and she was in the situation to either tell everyone she had taken him and he had a diagnosis or to just ignore the constant comments.

[@teainortakoy]

Walking at 2 is late but not unheard of. I used to work with under 5's and we had a child that walked at 2 and was late with all her physical milestones and another who walked at about 8 months! The late walker was also very late at rolling over and I would spend ages lying on the nursery floor singing that "five in the bed and the other one said, roll over" song to encourage her! Her cute little face, trying her hardest and giggling is one I'll always remember!😃

[@a.l.7616]

Okay, I used to watch you when I was vegan. When you had your first baby I went through a bunch of life changes and lost track of everyone I used to watch online. Coming back to your channel and hearing you talk about your babies and be so joyful is so heartwarming. As one mama to another, thank you!

[@reganelizabeth149]

My baby is cruising at 7 months but a friends baby a month younger hasn’t learned to crawl yet. Babies go at their own pace.

[@CalmoOmlac]

I skipped crawling and went from sitting to walking :)

[@cucumberbreezee]

This is such a great topic. It's insane how much the "internet parent police" will monitor and obsess over a child that is posted. Sometimes it's just quick photos, or a few second clips, and you really can't tell anything from that. They will "deduce" terrible things about the parent like mistreatment or neglect. I don't know why anyone would want to expose their child to these people

[@rep-vile]

Being overly critical about nothing only thing makes them feel smart, and they use it to confirm their bias. It's essentially concern trolling.

[@casey8401]

“I’m a bitch, I’m so mean sometimes” I have been following for seven years and literally cannot think of a time where I thought you were being mean hahaha. I love the honesty!

[@ewak5725]

I brought my 16 months old to physiotherapy to speed up the walking. I’m happy I took him and get him evaluated. He is 17 months old now and walking so he didn’t need much

[@Vegan32]

Daughter walked at 10m but didn't really speak til 3y. Kids are all different. Now I can't get her to be quiet 😅

[@Reznic007]

This was my son (my middle kid) Literally running at 10 months but speech delayed (only had maybe one or two words at 2y) and still technically needs speech therapy at 4.

[@Vegan32]

​@@Reznic007 speech therapy I feel helped us a lot from 2.5 -3

[@wednesday9623]

​@MdoubleHB12 what are u on about?? Ur posting this comment under every comment

[@sherilynn6850]

My 2 nd daughter was 8 pounds at birth and didn’t gain weight like the Dr. thought she should. He wrote failed to thrive on her file. Then I was told that’s really dangerous, CPS could take away your child. (She has now graduated from Georgetown University law school.)

[@Natalie.D]

I think the key is not to put your child online on social media to make money off of them. No one can comment on their development, if the image or video of the child is not posted.

[@TheChroniclesOfYarnia]

I’m autistic I look “normal” visually however behaviorally I am definitely abnormal and on my own path. But that is ok, I would have been pretty sad to look back and read adults talking about how fuked up my development is.

[@PollyMcMan]

Not walking at 24 is the cut off in UK, especially if they are bottom shufflers.

[@liisasivonen329]

In finland thats 18 months not super alarming but should be evaluated by gp and physiotherapist

[@naomi5495]

It’s 18months in UK. Parents should also be aware that they need to supplement B12 if they/their toddler is vegan. B12 deficiency can cause permanent nerve damage and eventually paralysis. A vegan diet can be healthy but people gloss over the importance of this.

[@wednesday9623]

It's 24months. My daughter didn't walk until 20months, she's now 12, my son is 13m and not walking and I was informed it was 24m only last week. Once they are showing signs of pulling themselves up ect it's completely normal and physiotherapy is unnecessary. I agree about the lack of vitamins however, in my opinion babies need meat

[@naomi5495]

It’s definitely 18 months where I am in the U.K. - maybe other health authorities have different referral points due to backlog. However it is common for *confident bottom shufflers* to start walking much later, though if your baby is not confidently bottom shuffling or walking by 18 months you should speak to your health visitor.

[@naomi5495]

Most babies will usually be weight bearing by 12 months. If a child is not weight bearing by 18 months it would be wise to chat to a health professional because hip dysplasia needs to be ruled out - rarely this is missed until adolescence and then can result in damage to the hip joint and preventable arthritis.

[@MollyPrewittWeasley]

My father was brought to doctor as he wasn't walking at 18 months (there's a serious hip issue in the family so his parents were concerned), doctor said he wasn't walking because he couldn't be bothered yet. He started walking a couple of months later.

[@Mangafan47]

I think the most important thing about that isn't the not walking part, but rather the check-up if it's due to a medical condition. It's fine if a child learns to walk late, but if a medical reason stops them from learning, catching it early can prevent so many health struggles later. Had a classmate in elementary school who learned to walk very late, due to a medical condition. Therefore learned to walk wrong (like using primarily the healthy leg). So she had to relearn walking in a balanced way during elementary school and wasn't allowed to run, cause she ran in the wrong way. Could have been prevented with a check-up, but the parents didn't bother since her older brother also started walking around his 2nd birthday for no medical reason.

[@alexandriawest]

People also seem to think malnutrition automatically means severe, obvious symptoms. I had malnutrition after a really awful virus. Doctors were ignoring me, I couldn't get any time off training because "nothing's wrong" and so I was dancing 8+ hours a day, 5-6 days a week, with malnutrition bad enough to otherwise be in the hospital. I know it's different at different developmental stages, but it doesn't always show right away. I didn't get really sick until after my levels came back up and I had enough energy to spare to be exhausted!

[@vladbonaciu8619]

In babies and toddlers, malnourishment does usually come with symptoms, due to the fact that the child uses a lot more calories relative to their size compared to an adult. There are also specific scales that check for developmental milestones so it is easier to check. Besides that, children (at least in the NL) get their height, weight and head circumference checked periodically, because by that you can catch malnourishment. I’d say the symptoms are obvious and severe, but without knowing them beforehand, you dont realize that your baby being not as chubby, or not growing fast enough (hard to see without multiple measurements) would immediately trigger an alarm in parents. But it is quite predictable in its course usually.

[@strawbraryliberry4604]

Yeah it's odd, when malnourishment is at its worst, it seems like the body keeps you from feeling it sometimes- and when you start to improve it hits you like a truck. 🙃 That said, if someone is severely malnourished, medical supervision is necessary. I'm sorry the doctors didn't take you seriously at first.

[@theunicornrainbow363]

The thing to stand on is a learning tower. It's for reaching tabletops and 'helping' in the kitchen.

[@jan9562]

Thanks, I've been wondering since seeing Broccoli Mum's children using one, but we only get to see the top bit.

[@colliemom22]

I didn't walk till I was almost two, but when I did start walking, I just got up and walked and never fell. My pediatrician wasn't concerned at all. As a side note, I also could swim an Olympic-length pool on my own at six months. 🤷‍♀

[@ToriKlassen1]

It’s called a “kitchen helper” - that contraption the child is standing on. I got one for my grandbaby

[@kennethjoneification]

or toddler tower

[@RealJonzuk]

people telling someone how to parent their kid from a youtube clip is wild

[@jgr_lilli_]

My SO was very much the same as a baby. When he went to nursery at 1 year old, the teachers were concerned because he sat on the floor like a toad, barely moving. There are VHS home videos of him crawling and barely pulling up to standing at 14 months, walking with both-hands assistance at 16 months. But he walked completely unassisted by 20 months. Some kids just take longer to catch on.

[@Mouse_Lyne]

That definitely /can/ be normal, but missing developmental milestones should never be dismissed unless environmental factors like nutrition, neurological factors, etc can be confirmed as adequate or normal. These milestones exist and are expected by certain ages for a reason, not just to make parents feel inadequate… missing one or several isn’t necessarily the problem, it’s the development of the body and motor skills that correlate roughly to those milestones.

[@visionary202]

Thank you. We really need to chill out about judging kids especially.

[@planetwrath7950]

My nephew was almost five before he started talking we were all concerned. His mom said to him "if you dont start talking you cant go to school" and he started talking. At 14 he said he just didnt want to talk when he was little.

[@powderandpaint14]

@@planetwrath7950 that would usually be a sign of possible neurodivergence though (or hearing problems) so important to be aware of.

[@emmanarotzky6565]

That’s actually a good sign for his parents, it means they were picking up on and responding to his nonverbal communication so well that he didn’t even feel the need to talk.

[@Behold_I_am_Egg]

My little cousin was the same way. He barely spoke at all until he was 5 or so, but was very intelligent and communicative in nonverbal ways. Since he was the baby of the family and the first boy, he was given so much attention by most everyone in the family that he didn't really have to ask for much or speak often in order to get what he wanted or be understood. He spoke up more when he wanted to be around other kids and make friends, and is a bright and thoughtful teenager now. All kids do develop in their own time, though my family does have a history of autism and other neurodivergence. My cousin had said the same thing though, about how he just didn't want to talk, up until he decided that he wanted to make new friends.

[@kaylaaa6351]

I really appreciate the way you talked about this. Thank you for being so understanding! I'm not vegan but I really love your videos and your perspective on so many things.

[@jgr_lilli_]

I remember fitshortieeats and her baby. He was the same age as my niece, who (despite being on the bottom of the percentile curve) was like twice as hefty as fitshortie's baby. I hope he's fine.

[@caterinas6863]

My baby walked at 17 months old. He is almost 2 now and only says a few words. This is all within the normal range (in the U.K.!)

[@melyssa528]

I followed you for years then stopped for a bit when it just got too negative. Subscribed again and been back. All good stuff 👍. Ty for all your work! PS. my 1st baby daughter walked at 9 mos, fully mobile by 10 mos. The next 2 kids walked at 11 & 12 months. And 3rd one, my son didn’t talk until he was almost 3..had the appt for speech therapy made but while waiting for the appt, pediatrician told me to have my daughters NOT do anything for him for a week. It worked. He wasn’t talking bc he just didn’t have to 😊

[@annk.8563]

I didn't walk until 16 months and two of my sons didn't walk until 16 months.

[@sttevveen]

Did they stand?

[@katelijnesommen]

Thanks for being the voice of reason, once again! People really need to stop thinking you can tell anything from what people post on social media, really, and especially about children.

[@theirmanager5204]

I’m about as far away from vegan as you can get. I’m a hunter, I eat mostly wild meat I hunt and process myself with my family. I completely agree, this is nonsense and I think maybe jealousy. She’s gorgeous. Her life looks amazing at a glance. Her daughter is gorgeous too. My daughter’s first food was eggs butter and rare red meat. She didn’t walk until she got to daycare at 1 year and realized she was missing out on fun. And even then it took her a few more months to really do it. A nutritious diet is a nutritious diet. Whether it’s beans and avocados or meat and butter. It’s mum’s choice, and later when she can choose it’ll be the little girl’s choice. Absolute nonsense.

[@BaristaWithADog]

Thank you for taking such a fair approach to these videos ❤

[@banditnmbr087]

Yeah what you said about 2y was me. No crawling just pulled myself around.Totally not raised vegan. My parents were worried because I was still doing this at 18 months. Dr actually wasn't super worried cause everything else was good, he wasn't concerned. About a month or 2 later I was running. I went basically from scooting to running overnight. Good grief all kids are different. I hate how everyone on the internet fancies themselves experts because they read some dudes blog or a web MD article.

[@Snowshowslow]

Yes, but it's not just on the internet. My kid is now 14m and not walking unsupported yet but the first slightly judgy questions about whether she was walking yet (or that she was "surely walking by now, right?") came at 10-11 months! Any kid walking by that time is very early but that doesn't stop people from making you feel bad that she's not on their timeline.

[@DM-ql6ps]

The comments for pretty much any video involving food and kids is like this. Even the perfectly innocent lunch prep/idea videos where the kids aren’t on screen. The lunches are never right according to internet commenters (“my kid wouldn’t eat that”, “too much fruit”)

[@katfoster845]

Coordination difficulties are pretty common and they're not necessarily concerning. Developmental coordination disorder/ dyspraxia is one of the most likely causes of delayed walking and it isn't something to worry about really. This isn't something that can be treated or fixed by diet, the best evidence is that it's genetic or predominantly hereditary. DCD is lifelong and treatment is aimed at supporting the child to develop skills in addition to maintaining self esteem. There are also educational interventions and adaptations, such as adapted pens, help with note taking etc etc. If a child has difficulties with fine and gross motor coordination, my first thought isn't neglect or abuse. DCD is much more likely.

[@ardenalexa94]

@@alephnulI unfortunately many don’t understand you don’t have to eat meat to have protein. Unless there are severe food allergies, certain types of diseases or digestive issues, or there are no other protein options available for whatever reason, protein comes in beans, legumes, soy milk, tofu, etc. and though these aren’t vegan options, Greek yogurt and cottage cheese have a lot of protein.

[@finn_blacklaws]

Well, I started walking at 3 years old and I was definitely delayed and if Swayze says that 22 months is very rare than I must of been extraordinary rare. Also I would like it if Swayze did a vegan skincare routine because she has very beautious crystalline skin! I also didn't have physical therapy.

[@hannahj8099]

I suddenly started walking one day, skipped crawling all together apparently! Hypermobility can 100% be a factor to different mobility milestones. I was not brought up vegan at all and neither parents were even vegetarian. Everyone’s different! Although I would say if you go straight from bum shuffle to walking, getting assessed for MSK issues could be a good precaution just in case 😊

[@agees924]

Same thing here, with hyper-mobility. I started walking at 12 months but never crawled. I never knew there was a correlation

[@melsoft121]

My daughter eats an omnivorous diet and started walking at 11 months. Even though she can run now, she still prefers to have both hands held while she’s walking at 17 months. It’s one thing to suggest that something could be a concern and suggest bringing it up at a wellness check or pointing out things that are universally dangerous, it’s something completely different to suggest that you know that someone’s child isn’t doing well despite not having seen more than a few clips. My baby is like…Snow White pale, it doesn’t mean she’s unhealthy, that’s just her skin. A well researched and balanced diet of any variety is always going to be better than just blindly assuming “oh, I give my kid chicken, so they’re healthy!”or “oh, I give my child edamame, so they’re healthy!”

[@trackee2024]

3 out of 4 of my kids walked between 11-12 months. One of my kids just didn’t care to walk and waited until 15 months. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Never worried about it.

[@oriongemini5663]

My three were all different . I think birth order makes a difference. My oldest walked around 16 months, middle 12, youngest 10 months. My youngest was desperate to keep up with her brothers.

[@Pandozzi]

I appreciate you so much, and videos like this remind me of your integrity as a person. Many creators would take any opportunity to just criticise and sensationalise for views and the algorithm, but I truly have respect for how you just make common sense a priority in your content. As a vegan mother to a toddler who is very verbal and started walking relatively early, of course they don't behave the same on camera. And it's a good thing!! They shouldn't have to perform for us. It's absurd that people who have kids even make these comments and it's horrific how easily people allow themselves to speculate on zero information. Yet another reason shouldn't be on the internet in the first place for sure. People are fucking awful.

[@mariniikk]

also, a lot of ppl in america are overweight. what some might see as “too thin”, can more than likely be a normal weight. also some kids, especially babies, have different builds, as adults do. one fatter kid will slim down and lose fat by age 2. one super scrawny kid will gain muscle and be a little plumper by age 2. everyone just has different needs

[@byJessCh]

My child started walking just a month ago at 21 months old. She was knee walking for months and had no intention to get up, up until last month

[@chelseac4553]

I appreciate the reminder for compassion

[@humblelovingsouls]

I don’t agree with family vlogging either or putting your child all over social media. I think if the child is old enough to understand and give consent to being filmed I think that is okay. There is a family vlogger I’m kind of on the fence about they were vlogging well before having kids and it turned into their income and then started including kids because it was part of their life. they seem really nice and not trying to exploit their kids but I’m still not sure if it’s right because their kids are very young and didn’t give consent. They do seem to minimize showing them too much.

[@Hayliana]

My baby is 25 months and not walking or saying a single word. He's not vegan. He can dance, bounce, climb, cruise the furniture, stand up without aid. Everything except those independent steps. I'm in the UK, trying to get every kind of help available. He's on a waiting list for everything. Speech therapy, physio, portage & hearing tests. Health visitor and nursery nurse just say 'well you're doing everything you can, all that's left is to wait'. He has hip dysplasia and that's causing their lack of concern because they think once he's operated on everything will be fine. There were no referrals until he turned 2 because the health visitor said the referral would be sent back for being too early. I suspect autism but they won't even consider that until he's at least 5 years old. I can tell you now it's utterly heart breaking. I just want him to be ok. There's not much worse than the judgy holier-than-thou mum brigade who have no idea what it's like to be filled with worry 24/7. All I can do now is wait for up to a year to reach the top of the lists. I feel for this lady, I hope she has support at home. Sorry for the rant, I'm one hyper-worried mama!

[@ColleenF30]

2 of mine were at 19 months when they started walking. All normal. People forget things are in a range and it varies from child to child.

[@danielle1724]

I’m not going to comment on Caroline directly because I agree I try to refrain from commenting on just a video clip because it doesn’t tell the full story, especially with toddlers! But just a friendly general tip from a pediatric occupational therapist with lots of experience with toddler development- crawling, while not a technical milestone anymore- is an important skill and should absolutely be encouraged! It’s got lots of benefits for early upper extremity weight bearing and supports fine motor development later on. Also helps integrate primitive reflexes (huge for early motor development). The other tip, pertaining to the video of her helping her daughter walk- if you’re child is on the brink of walking and still learning how to shift and manage their weight, it’s a billion times better to support below shoulder level, don’t hold their hands up over their head guiding as they walk, you end up controlling more of their weight than they are and it discourages their own core engagement, which isn’t going to help walking development. Again, nothing of this is in malace whatsoever, just for anyone with littles out there looking for ways to support their baby’s development! ❤️

[@carolynserra3195]

This surprises me. I see it more the other way round where kids are WAY delayed (i mean about three and no words) people say to the mum thay its silly to worry and the kid doesn't get help! It makes me sad. But yeah, it seems people are just being picky to this mum. 18 months is the cut off point in the UK, but that's just because 9 out of ten children will be walking and at that points the NHS feels they have time for the parents to make an appointment to see IF there is anything wrong and have time to help if they need it. .ost of the time it is fine.

[@irradiatedkrill548]

My kid didn't walk until 15 months. She's perfectly healthy, just loves being carried.

[@aprilsmithswe]

My first child was not quite walking when he turned ONE and the pressure and criticism I got was unreal! Every child is different!

[@mostlywholenicole]

My youngest was 18 months old when he walked. He was baby number 3. I had two preschoolers running around when he was a baby. They’d drop toys, crayons, a million choking hazard. For safety, the baby spent a lot of time in his playpen. He was my latest walker. Could I have done things differently? Of course. But I was a young mom of 3, just trying to keep them all alive. ❤

[@harbingerbk1]

I loved this video!! Like - imagine when Haley is bigger if she sees these comments?? Ugh. So grateful for your perspective, you are the reason my kids don't have any online presence!!

[@meghanmrowiec6634]

My family calls the standing cage a toddler tower! My niece loves hers. I will now be calling it a standing cage.

[@a.c.1877]

My oldest was premature and still walked at 10 months, and is extremely verbal (literal paragraphs by 18 months), but he was so reserved that he didn’t speak in front of strangers until he was 3, so it’s hard to judge how kids react in front of cameras or other people. All that being said, I do see big red flags and hope I’m incorrect (and for the record, we aren’t vegan) ETA it’s called a Learning Tower, my kids love ours

[@Paputsza]

idk, i feel like it's weird to be drinking breastmilk and eating food, and still be that thin. My comparison-kid's awkward af though. Walking at about 8 months, but it feels like she's falling.

[@sophieh.2986]

thank you for this compessionate approach!

[@teainortakoy]

Such a good message - thank you for this ♥

[@stanvel77]

Thank you for not feeding into the toxicity around whole this mess.

[@iseultcrow3915]

My 20 month old started walking at 8.5 months. Not a fun time lol

[@jenwylie4093]

At my son's 18 month check, he was only saying about 6 words, and not walking on his own. I told the nurse to wait a few weeks, she gave him 2 weeks, and I really pushed him to walk more by taking him to the park constantly. He started walking close to 19 months. He started talking in sentences at 2. Kids all go at their own pace. I was afraid. I can only imagine how tough it must be on the parents when the whole internet is telling them that they aren't parenting right.

[@joedusel]

Oh no, vegans are prone to colds?! I have a cold too! Is my vegan diet making me sick?! 😎 When our older daughter was a baby she was vegetarian (I had not yet evolved), and she was walking at 11 months. But, she had a pretty varied diet with fruits, veggies, grains and such. Beating the odds she survived and is almost 29. I don't know about the baby in the video, but all kids are different. I am sure that if there was a problem the mom in this video would be looking into it.

[@Investigativebean]

I believe that the milestone markers have been expanded in recent years. I can only go on my own experience as I’ve not actually fact checked this. I just know that they seemed to have broadened somewhere around my first baby in 2014 and my youngest in 2019.

[@Jilly_Neutron]

Yes it is a different beast when you have your kids online, but the gossip/opinion mill is rampant in real life too. My friend's kid was in aggressive cancer treatment between 9 and 16 months. No amount of physical or occupational therapy would have kept him entirely on track. He too was advanced in verbal skills (because he's perfect), but didn't walk until a few weeks before his second birthday and boy did everyone feel the need to mention it to my friend as if she wasn't already stressing enough about it herself (because that's what oncology parents need, more stress). Like sorry he was a little busy trying to live that walking got put on the backburner. That doesn't mean anything is horrifically wrong with his development.

[@micki0finn430]

I would be more concerned about not standing or talking by that age.

[@immacolata1068]

There are so many anti-vegan Karens who like you say, can watch a 20-second clip and then immediately turn into pediatricians. It's sad..

[@yuckysmuck]

Even outside of veganism in relation to child vlogging, it (child/family vlogging) irritates me so much. I'll never forget a few years back seeing a video from that Papa Swolio guy reacting to a family vlogging channel's diet, I think they had gone grocery shopping. Admittedly, it was just a bunch of highly processed stuff and frankly played into consumerism culture, but he focused in so specifically on their teenage girl's acne, faulting the foods for how her face looked. I felt so incredibly bad for her; first the parents exploit her + siblings for views and money, then some asshole gymbro critiques her breakout for being caused by her diet. Of course he didn’t blur anyone's face either. So it pisses me off on both ends, where the kids end up being used and then bullied by the same people against what they’re being used for.

[@tamarleahh.2150]

My first child didn’t walk until 18 months because I thought he would just get up one day and walk but the physical therapist taught me to stimulate his walking more. After 4 weeks of therapy he was walking well.

[@quigli]

A physical therapist for babies is called a Pediatric Occupational Therapist

[@aprilsmithswe]

My son saw a physical therapist and an occupational therapist-there were 2 different professionals with 2 very different things being focused on.

[@cookinglivewithlala]

Once again, I agree with you. Thanks for bringing some interesting content.

[@eh2203]

Hang on, though. I usually appreciate your perspective, but in my experience the anecdotes about individual children eventually catching up are a disservice to those who don’t. The reason we in early childhood suggest additional screening or even therapies is because (say it with me) early intervention is key. If she has the means or lives in a place with free early childhood services, the point is catching the kids who aren’t going to get there on their own in a bit more time. Sometimes it’s just a matter of a PT noting a specific area of need that is quickly resolved with a little extra support at home (e.g. teaching the baby to fall safely in order to practice more independent steps). Other times, it’s more serious. Please do not discourage parents from consulting an expert because you didn’t have an issue. All of the comments here aren’t helping, either, just perpetuating an illogical deferral of intervention. I teach a whole class of kids who didn’t receive the services they needed due to pandemic shutdowns and it is like receiving a pack of feral cats. My sibling and their spouse ignored my very legitimate concerns, so now their child is entering kindergarten unable to walk down the stairs unsupported. This attitude isn’t exactly ableism but it sure comes close. Or did I miss you giving a this disclaimer?

[@paige9429]

This is an important point. Yes, its good to reassure parents that developmental delays don't necessarily mean they're doing something wrong because parenting is so stressful! BUT we track these milestones for a reason and early intervention should definitely be considered based on the advice of professionals. Swayze does emphasize the need to talk to a pediatrician about the delays and concerns several times in the video.

[@alyssacadrian]

She literally talks about taking your child to a pediatrician and doing what they suggest. The point she’s trying to make is that you can’t know the child’s health or what the parent is doing behind the scenes from watching a 20 second video. Which is completely true. She doesn’t discourage seeing specialists if necessary at all in this video. I think you’re just taking it the wrong way for some reason.

[@CitrianSnailBY]

I completely agree with You - babies and toddlers do not belong on the Internet. All that "family vlogging" must completely stop. And, by the way: from what I know, according to my Mother, as a baby I began crowling, standing and walking at "the usual age", but did not say a single word until I was two and half years old. Then, I had said my first-ever complete sentence - and, since then, I hardly ever shut up, so... 😂 Thank Goodness, there was no Internet back on the Seventies. 🙂

[@growwithkersi]

Off topic, but your blouse looks great on you! :)

[@jcg03002]

My youngest didn't walk fully independently until 17 months, following a pattern where he hit every physical milestone at the tail end of the normal range. He already saw an OT at that time.

[@spidermiss2426]

I walked at seven months old, super early. My older sister didn't walk until age 3. She had arthritis as a baby and walked super late because of it. This was back in the 1970s though.

[@tarumakela5075]

What a great point of view. This made me realize that even if her child had developmental issues or was disabled, they could be caused by a million things or manifest because of bad luck. Blaming the mother so relentlessly is being blind to all the possibilities. Thank you for this video!

[@Morgan-tb8ns]

I was born prematurely so my parents were prepared for me to start walking late. Even with an occupational therapist, it took awhile. I’m not sure how long it took but I’m pretty sure I was close 2.

[@forever_seeking]

every kid is so different my oldest was very cautious. i could tell she could walk but it took her a while to be convinced she could. my boy was wreckless and started walking at 9 month... he had so many bumps and bruises i didnt know how to feed us and keep him safe

[@kiahnavega4534]

I had the same issue but with talking. My oldest didnt talk till his late threes and everyone used to harass me about how he was behind or i was doing something wrong to find out my son has autism. I dont understand why parents pick each other apart now a days. Yes spot abuse. I totally agree but also consider some reasons can be medical and youtubers dont owe people their life stories

[@kerry8461]

I’ve thought about that Fitshortie family since your video and worried about the kid.

[@amienaylor5358]

My kids walked at 9 mo 12 mo 13 mo I had no idea that some don’t walk until 18 months. Wow.

[@mitchyrosa]

I started walking late because my head was so big I couldn’t balance my mom was so worried but the doctor wasn’t I grew into my large head

[@michelleennis8195]

My daughter met every single milestone to the date! She walked exactly at 1 years old. She’s 18 months and her speech and annunciation is incredible for her age, she doesn’t care for meat. She’ll eat chicken depending on the texture. She’ll eat salmon when she wants to.

[@vikkipink1288]

I remember specifically with fitshortie it was really concerning because she was talking about how she only wanted her kid to eat fruit after being weened too which immediately set off alarm bells for a lot of people. Many were also concerned that due to her location she probably was never taking that child to doctor to get any check ups or anything. I have absolutely no idea how that kid is doing now I feel like most their followers these days don’t even realize they have a kid because they never seem to mention them from the last few times I checked on their page. So who knows what happened but I really hope the kid is doing ok and they’ve maybe lessened their extreme stance to include at least some variety in the foods they give them.

[@Autumn1988]

The cage I think is a Montessori learning tower so kids can help in the kitchen and see the counters

[@amirabrown9761]

Considering even taking my baby off of my personal private social media. I want to share pics of him with long distance friends and fmaily, but some of them don’t respect our wishes about posting him on theirs because I do. And then the thought that some people are probably being critical of them. I just don’t want to fight with it anymore.

[@Investigativebean]

That thing that they stand in is called a “kitchen helper.” We love ours.

[@Amberlyntwin]

Mmmmmm I have tons of videos of my baby talking bc she talks often. Her baby isn’t walking around much or moving at all really

[@PinkHairDontCare]

You're absolutely right. I was a skinny, weird looking infant that if my parents were vegan they would have no doubt blamed on the diet; I also started walking well before 12 months. Kids, like people, are different, and that's okay.

[@Pattycake1974]

I’m not a vegan, but I do like watching vegan channels for recipe inspiration. I watch this one vegan family who appear to be doing everything right nutritionally for their kids (if anything they provide extra supplementation; they do all the things), but I just can’t help but think that their children are not getting what they need with their diet. They’re so thin and frail looking that I worry about their son the most as he grows older and enters puberty. I have to stop watching them because it bothers me so much. Some kids may do fine on a vegan diet, but some don’t. If you’re doing everything right as a vegan, and it’s still not enough, then have the common sense to give your kids animal products and see if it makes a difference in their health.

[@wallflower6942]

I was literally malnourished as a baby, (undiagnosed celiacs disease causing severe anemia and later also bone density loss, started eating gluten at 6mo). I started walking at 8/9 months. I developed quickly as a kid (quick to talk, potty trained really early) that no one even considered that I was malnourished even though I cried way more than was normal. Then when I went vegetarian at 11 years old, suddenly people were starting to notice that I was malnourished (even though before that I also looked malnourished). Ofcourse they blamed it on a lack of meat...

[@xBloodGarnetx]

So pleased for you that your children are developing as expected, but smart parents does not mean kids will develop typically or as expected. We came at this from the opposite direction, so many people telling us our eldest child was fine/ 'perfect', and he is, for a kid with Autism which he obviously had. It's so hard when you know from your own work and study the importance of early intervention but you still have to fight desperately to get the relevant referrals and appointments. No idea how parents who aren't in healthcare navigate this, assume they don't or it is significantly delayed.

[@loser2idol]

I got eaten alive on a subreddit for telling the crazy snarkers that a vlogging couple’s baby was not going to get shaken baby syndrome from being shaken very lightly in a playful way. I was literally accused of being one of the vloggers 🤦‍♀️People can become blind with this shit

[@richiekock8835]

Women like her (the influencer) tend to have shorter lifespans than the very healthy-looking author of this video, with a very healthy-looking body weight. We tend to think the thinner, the healthier, right? More and more I start to realize that that is not the case.

[@llleiea]

I’ve to nephews both eat the same omnivore diet. One did not properly walk until two (he would walk a few steps but then would drop to his knees almost as if it was just more fun to crawl) But was very advanced verbally. The other one took ages to speak but walked at 8!! Months. He still is very advanced physically, even to his older brother who just has normal motor skills for his age. Verbally both are doing fine. My brother saw a therapist for the first one just to be sure that everything is ok, everybody was very chilled about it. Kids are just different. Ofc as parent go to your pediatrician just to be sure!

[@mariniikk]

ik one parent where their first started walking around 9mos, and their other one would stand but didn’t start walking till 16.5 or so, every child has different reactions to the same lifestyle factors

[@SerenityNow....]

Just an FYI. I didn't walk until 16 months, but my IQ turned out to be 139. Late walking is typically genetic, and has nothing to do with later development, unless it is exceedingly late.