You Can Grow Muscle By Stretching! (WILD Studies Explained)

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@johnd5619
@johnd5619 4 ай бұрын
Eric is a black belt in not letting dr mike derail the conversation every 30 seconds.
@iamwhoyousayiam6773
@iamwhoyousayiam6773 4 ай бұрын
He's normal and Mike is hilarious
@bretrobbins3150
@bretrobbins3150 4 ай бұрын
It’s time for an intervention with Dr. Mike. Once or twice per video is amusing. Every 30 seconds is excessive, tedious, and extremely distracting.
@MalMal-rg9py
@MalMal-rg9py 4 ай бұрын
​@@bretrobbins3150It's subjective to your tastes. I personally think he should half the jokes.
@jordany9807
@jordany9807 4 ай бұрын
​@@bretrobbins3150My thought exactly!
@SeuOu
@SeuOu 4 ай бұрын
@@bretrobbins3150 eh, I love it, personally.
@tlniec
@tlniec 4 ай бұрын
1. The way Eric instantly shifts gears to handling Mike's comments (while leaning into the joke and tying it into the topic at hand) and then gets back to his original point without being derailed is just masterful. 2. Show us the calves!
@arctuz51
@arctuz51 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow, I was actually one of the participants of the calf stretching study. Never thought I would see a video where it would be mentioned. Konstantin was a colleague of mine (same university at the time of the study). I can absolutely second Dr. Helms' opinion here, the stretching was painful, just do calf raises instead! Although we were allowed to take small breaks during the stretching if we were experiencing numbness (which we most certainly did), but the total stretching duration per day should not be below 45 minutes. We had to log our stretching times. Some anecdotal info for those who care: Many of us participants, myself included, actually profited the most not in cross section increases (measured by MRI btw), but in ankle joint flexibility instead. Flexibility was measured by a... rudimentary "device", where we pushed a small block forward with our knees while balancing on the same leg, and essentially doing a one legged squat (assisted by a door frame to hold on to). The measurement stopped when our heel lifted from the ground. Personally, I improved my ankle flexion in this "exercise" by about +4 cm (iirc) of pushing that block forward, which translated to an easier time going deeper on leg presses/squats/lunges etc.. So the main takeaway here is, if anyone has a problem with ankle flexion, perhaps give "extreme stretching" over multiple weeks a try. Not saying it will help, but it just might help you specifically!
@jamesstrom6991
@jamesstrom6991 4 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing
@42WallabyWaySydney
@42WallabyWaySydney 4 ай бұрын
Did the stretching result in DOMS similar to resistance training?
@ryanmcmullen5425
@ryanmcmullen5425 4 ай бұрын
I am actually very interested in this kind of flexibility specifically! Is there any kind of device available commercially that holds this stretch?
@justme4539
@justme4539 4 ай бұрын
Solid, very informative comment
@tee1532
@tee1532 4 ай бұрын
What did the calf stretching device look like?
@brandonpatolo6200
@brandonpatolo6200 4 ай бұрын
Love this duo. It’s is like watching one friend trying to explain the plot of a movie while the other friend is trying to guess what’s going to happen next. lol
@scarlettvschultz
@scarlettvschultz 4 ай бұрын
So true 😂
@iamwhoyousayiam6773
@iamwhoyousayiam6773 4 ай бұрын
👋 I'm that friend that guesses! Calling is half the fun 😂
@smaganas
@smaganas 4 ай бұрын
Dr Mike would throw 99% of people off their game with this banter. This guy could not be rattled 😂😂 what a pro. Big respect 🫡
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 4 ай бұрын
Eric Helms has experience talking with Omar (a goofy goober, in ways similar to Mike)
@aspiresk8boarding
@aspiresk8boarding 4 ай бұрын
The future of bodybuilding will be guys strapped into stretch contraptions with IV BCAAs 8 hours a day
@mastervule1844
@mastervule1844 4 ай бұрын
That sounds like some "I have no mouth and I must scream" type of sht
@Vincent_Beers
@Vincent_Beers 4 ай бұрын
EAA's, no point in skipping down to only BCAAs
@TheDubass
@TheDubass 4 ай бұрын
So gyms become BDSM caves?
@docutains
@docutains 4 ай бұрын
@@TheDubass so no change?
@REALdavidmiscarriage
@REALdavidmiscarriage 4 ай бұрын
@@mastervule1844This made me laugh out loud thank you 😂
@basedkitty
@basedkitty 4 ай бұрын
Eric: So there was a study… Dr Mike: And this study was done on a Sasquatch, an ASEXUAL Sasquatch. Actually, 500 of them!
@I_Might_B_Wrong
@I_Might_B_Wrong 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Mike is my spirit animal. Which is also a Sasquatch.
@OrcOfCourse
@OrcOfCourse 4 ай бұрын
True 🤣 Thanks for the addition Mike
@Cannonbombtv
@Cannonbombtv 4 ай бұрын
Eric: we started stretching…. Mike: TIE ME UP AND FUCK ME MUSCLE MAN
@bretrobbins3150
@bretrobbins3150 4 ай бұрын
Sarcasm is a potent spice. A sprinkle enhances the dish. Too much ruins it.
@camdenwaters6574
@camdenwaters6574 Ай бұрын
@@bretrobbins3150 That was poetic
@gyffjogofl7676
@gyffjogofl7676 4 ай бұрын
I love how Mike constantly makes puns while the guy tries to ignore it and explain.
@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Genius
@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Genius 4 ай бұрын
He doesn't ignore them at all. He laughs at them and just continues with the topic
@Banana-gp8hb
@Banana-gp8hb 4 ай бұрын
@@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Geniuswelax
@NathDriver
@NathDriver 4 ай бұрын
Eric and Mike have great chemistry. I feel like he's one of the few interviews that picks up what Mike is putting down
@IronOathFitness
@IronOathFitness 4 ай бұрын
Right! Do you listen to his Iron Culture podcast?
@tsp8855
@tsp8855 4 ай бұрын
only dr Eric can tolerate dr Mike's jokes to the frequency that was showin in this vid (once every 15 seconds)
@simonwinn-smith4972
@simonwinn-smith4972 4 ай бұрын
It's like a constant test of his resolve and it just washes over him whilst he stays completely focused. Awesome.
@Hypno_Llama
@Hypno_Llama 4 ай бұрын
He 100% has the same type of humor. Listen to his podcast with Omar
@thecastle09
@thecastle09 4 ай бұрын
I would equally idiotic and they wasted my time and I wanted it back
@bmobasco
@bmobasco 4 ай бұрын
The constant interrupting can be a bit off putting, but I think it’s just due to how excited Mike is about this info !!
@supercoolscientists313
@supercoolscientists313 4 ай бұрын
could you do a video on jelqing?
@kingslavd661
@kingslavd661 4 ай бұрын
😂 hahaha
@theastuteangler
@theastuteangler 4 ай бұрын
I dont want any theory bullshit, I want hands on. Tangible.
@Hebra1
@Hebra1 4 ай бұрын
Take matters into your own hands, literally.
@Juho-uf8si
@Juho-uf8si 4 ай бұрын
yes, ive seen guides in text but im a visual learner
@tyrincarnate3854
@tyrincarnate3854 4 ай бұрын
I'd pay extra for that
@masterslife214
@masterslife214 4 ай бұрын
Mike is the master of interjection: to break up dry science into bite-sized morsels...with juvenile humor and subject tangents...to keep the viewers' absorption refreshed. He makes us WANT to get past his interruptions and back to the topic. Artfully masterful...!
@petepan1330
@petepan1330 4 ай бұрын
Yes Dante Trudel ( DC Training) has been preaching extreme stretching at the end of working each muscle group, for decades! Go Dante!!
@Qualjak
@Qualjak 4 ай бұрын
Two questions: 1) That pec study suggests stretching can potentially result in surprising big gains. Why don’t we seem to see people that stretch getting very muscular from it? At least in my experience, I don’t see men or women that exclusively do yoga type exercises getting more muscular like someone that regularly lifts weights. 2) With weightlifting, progressive overloading is pretty simple - just add weight or improve technique. But with stretching, isn’t it possible that at some point you can’t really get any more flexible, or if you did you might increase your risk of injuries? Also, the fact that women saw less hypertrophy because they were already more flexible raises some questions. AFAIK, this isn’t seen with resistance training - if someone can lift more weight initially, that won’t impede their ability to develop more muscle. I think this stretching research is really interesting and potentially signals something very insightful, and it also raises a lot more questions about how it could actually be applied to increase muscle growth.
@IronOathFitness
@IronOathFitness 4 ай бұрын
Definitely some good questions. I think your first one points to the fact that you probably need some concurrent resistance/stretching not just stretching. And yes you can’t go past a certain point of stretching or you will rip things 😂
@jasonmercado9942
@jasonmercado9942 4 ай бұрын
1) I believe the answer to this question you allude to in your second question, and that’s because you eventually reach a point where you can’t stretch further. Whereas resistance training you can always throw another 5 or 10lbs on 2) Yes, when you stretch you’re going past your bodies initial range of motion, let’s say if you reach a point of dorsiflexion or plantar flexion that’s beyond its reasonable/ideal range of motion. Your ankle is naturally able to flex so much more, but that doesn’t mean it’s able to support the weight of your body at those points of flexion. (Used the ankle just as an example) 3) well this is seen in resistance training, which is the reason why trained individuals aren’t as keen to studies done on untrained individuals because they have a higher receptivity to muscle growth and is why they get what’s known as “newbie gains”, so I would think of the already flexible women as trained individuals in a resistance training group. Not to say, just because I lift more weight means I’ve been training longer. That’s usually the case, especially in relative weight, but not always of course. Hope this helps answer any questions, or maybe even raise more !
@dominiccroucher6677
@dominiccroucher6677 4 ай бұрын
I would guess that the reason less flexible people are able to see better gains would be because a muscle is able to generate more force at shorter lengths. So if a muscle is maximally stretched at a relatively short length then it will be resisting the stretch with much higher force than if it was at a longer length.
@thor498
@thor498 4 ай бұрын
We do. Yoga people get more muscular significantly compairwd to baseline without any extra muscle training
@extratayodancer
@extratayodancer 4 ай бұрын
Pec example had people do 15 minute holds at maximum stretch for the exact same muscle group 4 times a week. Is that similar to how yogis train? Yogis can pipe in on this. Also hypertrophy is easier when you are also on a calory surplus, do you see a lot of yogis combine there training with bulking? Most people I know who go to the gym but try to avoid gaining weight also don't look visibly much more muscular
@JohnSmith-wh7mk
@JohnSmith-wh7mk 4 ай бұрын
Reverse Nordics seem to be very effective for quads for me personally and they put the quads into a nasty stretch - hold the stretch for extended periods if you are a masochist
@freniisammii
@freniisammii 4 ай бұрын
You thing deficit lunges/smith squats could do the same thing for glutes?
@winstonsmith11
@winstonsmith11 4 ай бұрын
​@freniisammii thought provoking... 🤔
@StevefromCincinnati
@StevefromCincinnati 4 ай бұрын
Smith machine Bulgarian split squats are brutal... Hurts so good.
@JohnSmith-wh7mk
@JohnSmith-wh7mk 4 ай бұрын
@@freniisammii Yes, deficit Bulgarian split-squats are brutal af, tip for those is to use an aerobic step for a bigger deficit and also increase the distance between your front leg and supporting (back) leg - this will force you to use less weight but shifts emphasis to the glutes even more
@freniisammii
@freniisammii 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-wh7mk so should I do a pause on the last rep to really take advantage of this "stretch" mechanic?
@AnimateAlex
@AnimateAlex 4 ай бұрын
Helms is the man. Dr Mike, thanks for exposing me to so many brilliant people RP is the shit
@IronOathFitness
@IronOathFitness 4 ай бұрын
Right! Do you listen to Helm’s podcast?
@shinluffy9495
@shinluffy9495 4 ай бұрын
Team3DAlpha used to preach the stretch protocol!!! Pretty cool to finally see the science catch up with his predictions
@chandansimms9167
@chandansimms9167 2 ай бұрын
Yeah his heavy stretch pump training 👌🏾
@Elegant-Capybara
@Elegant-Capybara 4 ай бұрын
If only other things could grow by stretching 🥲
@ArcadiyIvanov
@ArcadiyIvanov 4 ай бұрын
It's not a muscle though
@ascension1199
@ascension1199 4 ай бұрын
Just have faith in the process
@creepersKy
@creepersKy 4 ай бұрын
It did for me, except now it’s kinda detached…
@ascension1199
@ascension1199 4 ай бұрын
@@creepersKy now you can just use a strap on
@ohiomp7606
@ohiomp7606 4 ай бұрын
Tugging and stretching are two totally different things bro!
@squatplugenthusiast3667
@squatplugenthusiast3667 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Mike geeking hard as fuck. He's definitely thinking about stretching something of his
@srleplay
@srleplay 4 ай бұрын
We need a sequel, can you grow your shlong by stretching?
@999rocky6
@999rocky6 4 ай бұрын
jelqmaxxing and edging on top bro
@MPJ784
@MPJ784 4 ай бұрын
Yes, aparantely it is the only way to do without cirurgies. 2 cm a year some claim, i read in another YT video that it was the case and there's some large community on reddit about it. I was curious about it, but not followed throught. So for people to have this legit concern, sadly this is the most a can point a way.
@kentonmassey8959
@kentonmassey8959 4 ай бұрын
@@MPJ784you definitely can. Speaking from experience. Definitely. Don’t start with an hr though maybe 3 minutes 5x a week and add 30 secs every 3-4 weeks
@nikos4677
@nikos4677 4 ай бұрын
Yeah its common knowledge at this point
@patbateman9652
@patbateman9652 4 ай бұрын
​@@999rocky6how to do it?
@lindacgrace2973
@lindacgrace2973 2 ай бұрын
Retired dancer, here. One of the reasons dancers are so strong is that in dance training every single contraction is immediately countered by or balanced by an extension and MOST movements (especially the bravura male leaps) are executed at maximum extension.
@greebly6011
@greebly6011 4 ай бұрын
I remember reading this exact same study several months ago for a paper in college. Awesome that I've come across it again, that kind of schoolwork feels like a waste of time I would never come across ever again
@welovecheshirecats4557
@welovecheshirecats4557 4 ай бұрын
This was great. So cool to see the incredibly knowledgeable, good looking and affable Dr Helms impart nuggets of genius and Mike was in the video too!
@theastuteangler
@theastuteangler 4 ай бұрын
I put on a lot of muscle on at a faster rate when I started doing Yoga. And my kicks became much more powerful. Stretching is great. I highly recommend Yoga.
@CobGobblin
@CobGobblin 4 ай бұрын
ive always been very flexible and im always contorting myself throughout the day especially after workouts because it feels amazing, and now i wonder if it has played a part in how jacked i was before working out, and how fast i have grown. i also do martial arts btw and can attest to stretching the hams before kicking.
@wweald7053
@wweald7053 4 ай бұрын
Do you do it post workout or separately, I was thinking of exercise in the morning and stretching before bed
@theastuteangler
@theastuteangler 4 ай бұрын
@@wweald7053 I did light poses after workout if I felt like it, then on my weightlifting rest days I did at least an hour or more of more involved poses. highly recommend.
@poay
@poay 4 ай бұрын
@@wweald7053 personally I do both. A thorough protocol after workout then a quicker one before bed. Adding the latter (daily) helped me resolve tension issues in the lower body that would sometimes make it harder to sleep. Post-workout however you make the most progress going deeper into stretches. Just my personal experience of course.
@IronBroccoli
@IronBroccoli 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if the benefits are different for some people?
@15awesomehighfive
@15awesomehighfive 3 ай бұрын
Love how Helms has insane chemistry with whoever his talking to, be it Trex, Zourdos, Omar, Dr.Mike... what a charismatic, smart man. Always distils complex topics into digestible brain-food.
@PaleData
@PaleData 4 ай бұрын
I saw a study about the muscle stretch being more important than the contraction. So yes i will stretch the muscle with a proper load and eccentric motion. Thanks dr mike!
@Archheret1c
@Archheret1c 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the good old Doggcrapp program where you put on extra weight to get an extreme stretch after your working sets.
@stevenbyrne7625
@stevenbyrne7625 4 ай бұрын
When you add "myo reps" you basically have DC!
@Mr_NB628
@Mr_NB628 4 ай бұрын
OK, who all wants a BDSM shirt? Bench, deadlifts, squat, military press. 😂
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 4 ай бұрын
please make this a thing XD
@mastaw
@mastaw 4 ай бұрын
I need it
@franzhulk2947
@franzhulk2947 4 ай бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUS already saw it a few weeks back if i remember correctly.
@IronOathFitness
@IronOathFitness 4 ай бұрын
Dude I literally have “I practice BDSM” on my home gym Whiteboard. People never know what it means😂
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 4 ай бұрын
@@IronOathFitness XD
@t.r.everstone7
@t.r.everstone7 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like this is showing some of why supplementing lifting with yoga is very effective at increasing strength and size for many people, if not most.
@PcCAvioN
@PcCAvioN 4 ай бұрын
The ancient yoga texts say that yoga will give you the strength of an elephant (not modern yoga, but ancient monk style yoga)
@freniisammii
@freniisammii 4 ай бұрын
@@PcCAvioN what's the difference? What protocols that do ancient yoga have that modern yoga don't? (Out of curiosity)
@t.r.everstone7
@t.r.everstone7 4 ай бұрын
@@PcCAvioN Which is obviously not literally true since elephants are beyond human strength, but it seems to be correct albeit exaggerated!
@balterblack2862
@balterblack2862 4 ай бұрын
@@PcCAvioNwell… Thats a lie
@Vincent_Beers
@Vincent_Beers 4 ай бұрын
Ancient yoga included longer isometric holds. Monks would meditate in certain positions for hours each day to gain "spiritual clarity" modern yoga is still excellent for mobility and circulation health, but it's also condensed into something you can fit into daily life. Compared to monks doing yoga, that itself was their life. It's the difference between doing enough to get some health benefits versus doing it to an extreme as its own lifestyle all day every day.
@DontStandForNothing
@DontStandForNothing 4 ай бұрын
Vindication for Dante Trudel and DoggCrapp OG's!
@monsterbarbell8306
@monsterbarbell8306 4 ай бұрын
Yep. What's old is new again! Dante told me about this in 2007 and the Internet back in the 90s on professional muscle.
@CrackedZac
@CrackedZac 4 ай бұрын
People used to say you should stretch the muscle after every set for an extra 10-15 seconds or so for extra hypertrophy and then science said it didn’t work.. science will continually show bros of the past knew their shit from trial and error
@arstgkneio
@arstgkneio 4 ай бұрын
Completely different protocol.
@Vincent_Beers
@Vincent_Beers 4 ай бұрын
Different protocol that hits the same mechanism. Using stretching to go beyond the point of failure after typical sets are done. It's not that far outside the Dorian Yates method of using your spotter to get partial reps in the stretch position to go beyond failure after not being able to do more full range of motion reps.
@SBavailablehandle
@SBavailablehandle 4 ай бұрын
What is the device for calf stretching you use?
@Flahtort
@Flahtort 4 ай бұрын
"science will continually show bros of the past knew their shit from trial and error" - science NOT continually show that people from past was right all along. You are making survival bias. Yes, science show, that some methods "from past" can make sense. But science also show a ton of examples opposite of that. Partials in short range? - bad idea. "must do bench, squad, deadlift" - not necessary. Train biceps once a week - bad idea. A lot of protein like 4 grams per 1 kg - too much, doesnt give more benefit. Gotta it immediately after or workout wasted - not exactly. And etc. Bros not always knew that shit. Bros know a lot a good stuff, but also a lot of not so great stuff and a lot of BS.
@Nar_Dolk
@Nar_Dolk 4 ай бұрын
Because the science knows more about the human body "in general", while the men who are actively learning how to take care of their own bodies, know way more about their own bodies than science knows about the human body in general. Science is cool, but referring to the latest scientific discoveries like it's the only objective and final truth is not only ignorant and dumb, but a completely anti-scientific thinking method too.
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 4 ай бұрын
With the trickle down idea, definitely. Because I stretch before bed, typically I will do Karlakatai yoga, compared to Modern Western yoga, which helps me combine the meditation, I sleep better therefore I can wake up and perform better
@kzroh9871
@kzroh9871 4 ай бұрын
Wtf I was just thinking of this in my head I thought this was an old video and my phone was reading my thoughs
@GREY434
@GREY434 4 ай бұрын
Literally same thing happened to me.
@Metso-ateco
@Metso-ateco 4 ай бұрын
You have no free will, its all pre-determined.....
@Rewbbb
@Rewbbb 4 ай бұрын
u high bro
@beebeeramone4641
@beebeeramone4641 4 ай бұрын
This happens to me pretty often with youtube. I'll be thinking of something then i get recommend a video about the subject. How
@eventhorizon7234
@eventhorizon7234 4 ай бұрын
Every video some comment like this on any channel. It's getting annoying
@evrenseven
@evrenseven 4 ай бұрын
Oh my God how many Achilles tendons did they snap 😰
@Fopay12
@Fopay12 4 ай бұрын
That's what I said those sound like very extreme measures for a study 😢
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 4 ай бұрын
0! Probably made them better! 😎👍🏻
@IronOathFitness
@IronOathFitness 4 ай бұрын
Probably too many😂
@SatanicJamnic
@SatanicJamnic 4 ай бұрын
Omg, Erik is so goood for this content. Perfect man to this colab. Thank you sir
@JackMyersPhotography
@JackMyersPhotography 4 ай бұрын
Arnold used to recommend stretching both in lifts, and regular stretching. He was ahead of his time.
@grahamvandyke
@grahamvandyke 4 ай бұрын
So there's a debate in the gymnast community about why they have such insane bicep development (it's unreal), and there was a Russian gymnast who said it's because the men train the Iron Cross which is essentially them holding their entire weight on rings with outstretched arms to the point of almost hyperextension. The theory was the biceps were working at their most lenghthened (and therefore weakest) state which caused the growth. I see now not only is that true, but the DEEP STRETCH they're milking in that position is doing WORK.
@lostarrow861
@lostarrow861 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. why is this perfect example of the effect of stretching in humans being overlooked?
@angryuser0
@angryuser0 4 ай бұрын
Doggcrapp was onto something a long time ago with the painful stretching at the end of your sets perhaps
@charlesw3120
@charlesw3120 4 ай бұрын
Crazy. I remember Frank Zane saying that stretching between sets was core to his training philosophy. I thought he was a quack for saying so!
@dawiedarling
@dawiedarling 4 ай бұрын
NOTICE: ballet dancers NOT studied! perhaps they do not seek hypertrophy but they do WILD amounts of stretching and MUST be strong enough to LEAP etc
@taylormclaren5579
@taylormclaren5579 4 ай бұрын
Dante has been preaching this for years. Cool to see some evidence on it.
@RamAlambaDingDong
@RamAlambaDingDong 4 ай бұрын
So Dante Trudell and his Doggcrapp (DC) Training regimen was right? Extreme stretching after hitting the muscle group
@BeefyBasementBoys
@BeefyBasementBoys 4 ай бұрын
I hurt my ankle really bad in the military and honestly calf raises help my mobility so much I can run almost like I use to
@Tagperson
@Tagperson 4 ай бұрын
Whether it’s works or not, it just feels really good to stretch
@382u3uuej
@382u3uuej 4 ай бұрын
It always made sense to me that stretching intensely grows muscle even before any research, it makes sense because it agrees with the principles: -Do isometrics grow muscle? Yes -Do lengthened isometrics grow more muscle than shortened isometrics? Yes -Do lengthened partials grow more muscle than standard full rom? Yes -Does the bottom stretch grow more muscle than the other parts of the movement? Yes Then why wouldn't holding the bottom of a dumbbell fly grow muscle effectively? IMO if stretching extremely intensely 4 times a week for 15 minutes equals to doing 15 sets (4 minutes equals 1 set), then if you were to do a 4 minute dumbbell fly at the end of your workout you would gain some flexibility and it would count as doing a normal set, that way you can get a good workout and at the end add flexibility training at the end that also doubles as an additional set.
@freniisammii
@freniisammii 4 ай бұрын
damn, I didn't know the last one was true? What's the point of doing full ROM then?
@fabiontona
@fabiontona 4 ай бұрын
​@@freniisammiiIt's more compared to the other parts, but still the other parts help too. So why would you lose the gains from the other parts?
@Artdaclownindisbitch
@Artdaclownindisbitch 4 ай бұрын
Your getting enuff flexibility just from the bottom of each rep, and u would wana do the whole rep to build the adaptations that your body Will only make in order to lift weight the weight instead if just adaptations ti being a stretched position
@coolguy69verycool
@coolguy69verycool 4 ай бұрын
Dante Trudel and his extreme stretching was right. Watch Doggcrapp, a 3 decade old program, become popular
@DontStandForNothing
@DontStandForNothing 4 ай бұрын
Let's fucking go! Been a fan of DC for years!
@DILFDylF
@DILFDylF 4 ай бұрын
I'd expect someone with your username to recommend something called dog crap
@JosefWebber
@JosefWebber 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see what happens if you combine the stretching with training. I don’t think anyone is gonna stop training to stretch but if both together provides even better results, then I’m interested
@chandansimms9167
@chandansimms9167 2 ай бұрын
Some exercises inherently have a large stretch component; incline curls , over head extensions and deadlifts. But what you could do is let’s say you train a muscle group 3x per week on the third session you can have pretty much just a weighted stretch day were you hold that stretched position and see what happens
@XanderYTV
@XanderYTV 4 ай бұрын
I used to do calf raises with over 300lbs full range of motion with a squeeze at the top. Now I do lengthened partials with a slow eccentric with around 220lbs and my calves are growing fast af
@chandansimms9167
@chandansimms9167 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@noelnyc8227
@noelnyc8227 4 ай бұрын
Dante aka DC was onto this decades ago. Justified! Extreme stretching is for real …
@droman2
@droman2 4 ай бұрын
Been doing this for years. Rather than sit and rest just static stretch the muscle you're working. Don't do it every set but it definitely makes a difference.
@richardcorsillo9819
@richardcorsillo9819 4 ай бұрын
Hello, Dr. Mike. One of the most interesting things you ever put out was your experiences in Russia. Not sure if you are wanting to, but I would like to hear more about that system. Been studying it for a long time. Actually, during the lockdowns I lived in Hollywood with my wife and I would read books like Ivan Denisovich, the Kitchen Boy, and other books literally to make me feel better about living in a tyrannical era. That is why I like to hear it. Good to prepare
@nitinnair4353
@nitinnair4353 4 ай бұрын
Could you please do superhero workout plan videos for Captain America, Spider-Man, Aquaman, and Deadpool or Wolverine.
@ew-zd1th
@ew-zd1th 4 ай бұрын
Eric IS great, i Like him and His Work and i Like to See His actual muscle building success after all this years and His Tipps, this is real Motivation
@charlesw3120
@charlesw3120 4 ай бұрын
Why do you abuse the shift key like that? What an abomination.
@ew-zd1th
@ew-zd1th 4 ай бұрын
@@charlesw3120 my Handy sucks. ITS Not my fault Brother
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 4 ай бұрын
I've been experimenting with mostly LLPs with dumbbell pec fly for awhile now to cook my pecs after barbell pressing (I workout at home in my garage with minimal equipment)
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 4 ай бұрын
Because I don't have many dumbbells and they are at most 40lbs
@Krythan
@Krythan 4 ай бұрын
As much as I love the training videos, I really enjoy the academic videos even more. I've learned much more on this channel than I learned in my degree in 2000.
@PoorlySoup
@PoorlySoup 4 ай бұрын
A truly legendary sign-off at the end there.
@thomaspybus8468
@thomaspybus8468 4 ай бұрын
Just wanted to jump in real quick. I love your content. The entertaining videos are great with just enough informative structure to keep them functional. Your methods for lifts have also helped me improve at a monumental rate. My trainer and I discuss a lot of things you talk about and I am growing by leaps and bounds (still early btw). I wanted to say keep crushing it everyday and never stop. God bless and Stay Hard!
@AndusDominae
@AndusDominae 4 ай бұрын
Since I was given exercises for Achilles tendonopathy, my calfs have ballooned. Also, the effect is reversible. Calf raises helped keep the tendon pain at bay.
@dawiedarling
@dawiedarling 4 ай бұрын
OMG! This is my latest text book subject for cecs! THANK YOU!!!
@HavasiP
@HavasiP 4 ай бұрын
Last set of the day for any given muscle will get long length partials followed by a serious prolonged stretch from now. Gonna try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.
@1x1HealthyEnergybyAndrew
@1x1HealthyEnergybyAndrew 4 ай бұрын
Still can't compute 😂
@IronOathFitness
@IronOathFitness 4 ай бұрын
Same!
@luisgomez1335
@luisgomez1335 4 ай бұрын
Great MF video. People need to know that maintaining flexibility is important and deserves time in someone’s routine to better their health. Also helps me from getting injured
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 4 ай бұрын
"This is only an animal phenomenon" totally confident that human is the only non-animal animal. So basically these studies confirmed that yoga works, it's not just so painful that an adult man wants to cry and gets all sweaty, it builds muscle. I wanna see this stretch study/protocol on hamstrings. They already feel crazy easy to stretch and as far as I know, the main method to train them is something like rdl where you use noticeably less weight than when deadlifting even though the pattern is very similar, and have "insane" stretch on them, and go disabled - unable to move, for 5 days if you do more than 2 sets.
@tiagogreeve685
@tiagogreeve685 3 ай бұрын
Definitely, you shouldn't forget good stretching is actually putting insane amounts of tension ln your muscle. It's just not as measurable as lifting weights so it's less popular. If you do a full hardcore stetch kt is literally like trying to tear your muscles apart
@JS-lr3iv
@JS-lr3iv 4 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe anything other than that Dr Mike and Scot Mendelson are long lost brothers 😮
@Just_another_nobody.
@Just_another_nobody. 4 ай бұрын
Instant like for Dr. Eric Helms.
@ashply4306
@ashply4306 4 ай бұрын
Dr Mike, I have just seen Mr. Greg’s video that he made about you. I don’t know if what he said was completely true or not but if it is, I want you to know that you are an absolutely amazing person and couch. I’ve learned so much and still am from your video. I personally care about your well being and I don’t want anything bad to happen to you. We care about you and love and we don’t want to lose you. The fitness world would lose a Gem if anything happens to you. If anything is harming you please stop. Please stay safe and stay healthy.❤
@philipkim9779
@philipkim9779 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video!!
@StoneMason103
@StoneMason103 3 ай бұрын
These two are the best combo
@wattihrvolt-pn3pf
@wattihrvolt-pn3pf 4 ай бұрын
Stretch training could help with muscle development for people who have cardiac issues.
@AppleJack76
@AppleJack76 4 ай бұрын
This torture reminds me of the scene in "Shooter", where the 'shoot myself in the head' device is being strapped on to Michael Pena character, Nick Memphis
@realbenmaynard6019
@realbenmaynard6019 4 ай бұрын
We need more Eric Helms!
@sortasurvival5482
@sortasurvival5482 4 ай бұрын
I noticed this to be true when working on doing splits while also excersizing my legs. The more i push the stretches, the more it seems the strength stays. However, i also need more rest time from doing such.
@lc9245
@lc9245 4 ай бұрын
This makes me think of a few weird applications. I’ve had secondary hypoparathyroidism due to surgery, which gave me painful cramps occasionally if I forget to take calcium supplement. It gave me the idea that if I can’t move or move well yet the doctor wants to ensure the muscles are working properly, they can probably induce “cramps” on those muscles to work it. I looked around and apparently when they induce cramps using shock on muscle, they do inducing comparable muscle growth to exercise. I thought celebrities can be given some sort of pain reduction medicine and put through a “full body workout” section just getting zapped instead of exercising, similar to how they lose weight with Ozempic. With stretching this sounds even more plausible. Patients post surgery can be made to stretch to ensure better posture-surgery mobility perhaps, or celebrities can be locked into painful stretches for hours to build muscles. A cool side effect from stretching induced muscle growth is that it would probably consume less energy compare to regular exercise. So celebrities can combine this with their ozempic shot for quick weight loss + muscle gain, perhaps. Just weird ideas.
@corneliusthecrowtamer1937
@corneliusthecrowtamer1937 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that I remember Tom Platz talking in a video about how important stretching was for muscle growth. He would do stretching sessions specifically because it helped stimulate muscle growth. Don't quote me if I'm wrong.
@r.alexander9075
@r.alexander9075 2 ай бұрын
Please provide a link to whatever papers you are referencing, for people who like to do their own research besides watching youtubes, that would be awesome
@caiodantas99
@caiodantas99 4 ай бұрын
Rack pulls are amazing for traps 🇧🇷❤💪🏼
@Saeder
@Saeder 4 ай бұрын
Dr Eric Helms is a G
@TheGamePhilter
@TheGamePhilter 4 ай бұрын
I love chilling in pigeon. Probably my favorite stretch.
@jazzyj5236
@jazzyj5236 4 ай бұрын
Amazing for the posterior chain. Love how it relaxes the fascia/tissues in the hips and glutes especially
@augustgames6502
@augustgames6502 4 ай бұрын
I'm so happy Mike finally found a playmate
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor 3 ай бұрын
Sounds great for people that cannot move. Like people in coma that suffers big muscle loss
@tank2003
@tank2003 4 ай бұрын
My thighs grew immensely after i started doing couch stretches. I was 100% off trt at the time too
@bobmac9070
@bobmac9070 4 ай бұрын
I have mentioned this before. This was already studied and developed by Steve Holman and his partner on POF training which included a pre stretch movement, then mid range, then concentration. This was developed back in the 80s. It’s not new at all.
@NaturalIntensity69
@NaturalIntensity69 4 ай бұрын
What i can ascertain from these studies is that its a short term adaptation in growth that you get from implementing the stretch on most exercises and it drops of pretty quick after that.
@jwtiger69
@jwtiger69 4 ай бұрын
Dante Trudel was preaching this for years. DC extreme stretching....
@ldunmdx
@ldunmdx 4 ай бұрын
I get this after my vacation. Nice
@emmang2010
@emmang2010 4 ай бұрын
Eric is the man.
@phoenixiguidez531
@phoenixiguidez531 4 ай бұрын
Dr Mike is my favorite yapper
@justinharveyjohnashby
@justinharveyjohnashby 4 ай бұрын
It makes sense. When someone hangs for long periods in attempts to do a pull-up. Over time that stretch has shown to cause hypertrophy in the muscles.
@tracewaybos
@tracewaybos 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Mike hurling jokes every 20 seconds to stretch the length of this video. Nicely done on Hypertrophying your profits!
@BeforeThisNovember
@BeforeThisNovember 4 ай бұрын
For a long while I’ve been absolute convinced that stretching and flexing increases muscle mass
@limitisillusion7
@limitisillusion7 4 ай бұрын
They've the reason that stretching and flexing at the same time is called strength training.
@BeforeThisNovember
@BeforeThisNovember 4 ай бұрын
@@limitisillusion7 is it really
@terigiese1322
@terigiese1322 4 ай бұрын
Flexibility is actually a component of fitness that is most often missed.Elongating the muscles after a workout helps get rid of some of the lactic acid buildup and in my humble opinion?Helps me avoid injury.Nothing extreme.Just stretching those muscles after my cardio when they are warm and pliable.I am much less sore because of stretching and I just feel better.
@bobdog90
@bobdog90 4 ай бұрын
Stretching after a workout has not been studied and doesn't really accomplish much. It does blunt the stretch reflex temporarily, and that means less contraction of the fatigued muscle (and less pain). But prolonged stretching and dynamic stretching (like yoga, calisthenics, etc.) have many beneficial effects. It just doesn't make sense to do them after a workout.
@Broodjemetbeleg
@Broodjemetbeleg 4 ай бұрын
Has not been studied and doesn't really accomplish much? @bobdog90
@terigiese1322
@terigiese1322 4 ай бұрын
@@bobdog90 My background is in ballet.Which has been around for a very long time.And stretching absolutely IS crucial in every form of dance and in exercise.I competed in Ms.Fitness competitions back in the 90’s.And “flexibility “ was actually an area we were judged on.Strength,endurance,and flexibility.The muscles need to be all 3.I have to disagree with you.I do long,slow stretches.And when the muscles are warm?That is the best time to stretch because they are pliable.What you describe is NOT the type of stretching I do.I am actually working to INCREASE my flexibility.And at 63?I definitely do not need to pull or tear a muscle.
@q695
@q695 3 ай бұрын
I believe this, I trained my body with isometrics
@GUIDE_Nico
@GUIDE_Nico 4 ай бұрын
16:00 I love the pause reps.
@wumbel5249
@wumbel5249 4 ай бұрын
I have always wondered about this, really interesting to see this topic adressed
@IronOathFitness
@IronOathFitness 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel like the research on this topic has always shown negative effects of stretching. Until now
@matthewbernard8483
@matthewbernard8483 4 ай бұрын
There was mention BFR training in this video. Dr Mike should do a video on best practices for occlusion training.
@KhizarHayat-mb5jm
@KhizarHayat-mb5jm 4 ай бұрын
Kudos... Please sir if you could create a detailed video on supplements. I rarely listen to anything when i mean serious fitness.
@chayoto
@chayoto 4 ай бұрын
I live for these interviews!
@47bricklayer
@47bricklayer 4 ай бұрын
I started doing asian squats for an hour a day, to improve ankle flexability, to improve the range of motion, to better train my quads. My cavs blew up.
@markotukja3991
@markotukja3991 4 ай бұрын
Look at Eric's BEAUTIFUL biceps😩
@Rooks84
@Rooks84 4 ай бұрын
Dante Trudel strikes again!
@DontStandForNothing
@DontStandForNothing 4 ай бұрын
Yes brother! Extreme stretching is unreal!
@UmarOmar999
@UmarOmar999 7 күн бұрын
The reason why stretching builds muscle is because stretching tears muscle fibers, and obviously, when muscle fibers are torn, they recover and grow bigger.
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