You Can Lead A SovCit To Water But You Can't Make Them Drink. (Plus IL v. Yohn Opening Statement)

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[@golden-63]

*If it walks like a slobberin citizen, and it talks like a slobberin citizen, it's a slobberin citizen.*

[@ddg9952]

You can lead an idiot to a library, but you can't make him think

[@TheUluxian]

You can, however, throw a lot of books at him...

[@Lokisdottir1964]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Lokisdottir1964]

@@TheUluxian 🤣🤣🤣

[@marilynsmith365]

Or read!! 😂😂

[@chaplainmattsanders4884]

😂

[@---C_B---]

I **NEVER EVER** thought a SovCit could make a worse opening statement than Darrell Brook's, but here it is 🥴🤣

[@WhoWantsToKnow81]

Well, there's always going to be someone who -raises- lowers the bar 😉

[@user-bx2bc7nu3v]

Bingo

[@feargalledwidge806]

He couldn't have presented a worse case if he had Darrell Brooks as his lawyer

[@ronfullerton3162]

I have begun to think that he is Darrell Brooks twin brother.!

[@hobbithubby5076]

He made a lot of similar statements during his opening that Brooks made during his.

[@ronfullerton3162]

@@hobbithubby5076 I guess they are going to do it again and again until they get it right! (Which means never)

[@brettc660]

​@ronfullerton3162 isn't that the definition of insanity - lol😂

[@DoodleMomNC]

Dear Mike: please quit your day job. There are tons of cases being covered that you could do better.

[@Swiizz.]

I couldn't be more glad that he's representing himself and I hope he continues to blow through his rights.

[@RadikalTurtle]

Where's Darrell E. Brookes when you need him? This is like deja vu.

[@simonevans8979]

Got to jail for a loooooong time, pal. A pro se defendant has a fool for a client.

[@SunsetGuitarist]

You can lead a sovereign citizen to a lawyer but they are never under the jurisdiction of the state so they don't need a lawyer

[@andrewryder3276]

"I was travelling in my property." I accidentally put my car key in my house, started it up, drove the house to middle of the interstate, parked it there, and told everyone else to get out of my driveway.😆

[@dontgetbrazenwithme6733]

He also got 7 years while in custody for possession of drugs in jail in June. 😂😂😂

[@br3bid10]

The pro se guy reminds me of when I served on a jury for a cop shooting trial and we were on the fence on some of the charges until the defendant took the stand at the end of the trial and basically incriminated himself into a 20 year sentence.

[@staylor3483]

I had the wonderful chance to speak to sovcidiot a while back & asked them point blank... "If you go to any country in the world, Canada, England, etc., are you not subject to the laws, rules, & regulations of that country & its local jurisdictions??" They answered, "Of course!" So I asked them, "What country & jurisdiction are you in right now, at this moment?" Answer, "United States of America. In New York State." "So, don't you think you should be controlled by the laws, rules, & regulations of New York State & of the Us?" They couldn't answer coherently... 😅😅

[@Lokisdottir1964]

There's really not much they can answer coherently.

[@MotherMeece]

Did you ask them how they pay for gas and groceries by using their IRS trust fund established at birth? I'm sure the clerks gladly accept the handwritten IOUs for payment? 🤣🤣

[@melissalough5594]

😂😂

[@angelshalosoflove]

My mom and sister lived in an apartment where a murder took place. My sister was confronted by the murder. Her dog started barking and the guy took off. (My mom and sister had apartments across the hall from each other). So thankful for her dog.

[@silverfishimperatrix6782]

"Impossible means not possible; incredible means not credible." 🤦‍♂ He was just (in the past five weeks or so) convicted of having contraband materials in his cell and sentenced to seven years. Now his real trial is beginning!

[@andrewryder3075]

I loved when he said "I will show you reason for false testimony..." and added it'd be from people who may not even testify.

[@StevieG_GuitarMan]

I am a criminal defense lawyer. The rights of criminal defendants are not mostly contained in the 4th Amendment. They are contained in the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments. The 4th Amendment is only about detentions and searches. The 5th is about getting due process in criminal proceedings. The 6th is about the right to counsel. The 8th is about the right to confrontation and the right against cruel and unusual punishment.

[@davegar1816]

Don’t forget the super relevant 3rd amendment!

[@scottmccrea1873]

@@davegar1816 from the super relevant s/x offender frauditor!

[@OscarSommerbo]

8th also contains a due process right, the right to a speedy trial.

[@scottmccrea1873]

@@OscarSommerbo I always think that's in the 6th

[@middleburg11]

​@OscarSommerbo u don't want a speedy trial only chance he has out live the victims...

[@sebastiangrumman8507]

He also cursed at the judge at a prior hearing and then claimed the Judge needed to recuse himself as he was now prejudiced against the defendant. He has claimed he wanted to represent himself, then been persuaded to accept counsel, then fired counsel. This guy is crazy like a fox. He is trying to muddy the water. His accomplice, his girlfriend, was sentenced to 40 years. He has been in jail for 19 months because of HIS delays. And, of course, when he is convicted he will claim he did not have adequate representation.

[@MotherMeece]

Oh, let her turn on him and testify against him. He's definitely not gonna wait for her for 40 years to be released!

[@sebastiangrumman8507]

@@MotherMeece He will definitely be convicted. But he may stupid enough to think that by his tactics he will beat the charges. Also, I was thinking that he may be doing this to just to delay finally going to prison. Jail is probably easier and more interesting than prison. And he may think that the conditions at a jail are more likely to present an opportunity to escape, otherwise he is going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

[@simbasue]

Daryl brooks defense

[@MotherMeece]

@@sebastiangrumman8507 I was thinking more along the lines that he's not going to be able to choose who his next relationship will be with once he hits prison! 😉

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

​@@simbasuegrounds? 😂

[@avidreaderredxx]

Your honor it’s just a coincidence that the elderly person fell down the stairs while the house was broken into by me.

[@ED-es2qv]

My grandpa used to say, "if I can't make em drink, I can beat em till they're thirsty."

[@DaleDix]

Today I found out: 1. Ve must follow ze rules 2. Persuasion is not logical 3. Horses can talk 4. 77yo women are invincible.

[@D-L-B]

Would love to hear his explanation for this: The day after the attack U.S. Marshals found Yohn in Springfield. He had Tina’s purse over his shoulder, which contained her jewelry and voter ID card. He also had her watch on his wrist and a rosary in his pocket

[@zehnkatzen]

So basically his defense is to put the entire courtroom to sleep with the most meandering, prolix monotone ever known and then slipping out. Brilliant. I say indict him on one count of not having an interesting word salad. He has so many words and means to use every last one of them.

[@sharonsharlow526]

30:20 Absolutely best quote from the defendant: "Today here and throughout the trial there are many tales told. Tales that are tall. Simply very tall tales." 😂

[@BMIU]

Kamala Harris advised him on his opening argument.

[@WhoWantsToKnow81]

A true master debator indeed

[@TheUluxian]

I believe "The Pursuedee" was a failed spinoff of that 1960's British series "The Prisonoid"

[@grbenway]

You need a lawyer even more if you have done nothing wrong.

[@hectorcamclips]

Second guy probably equates himself to Abraham Lincoln giving the Gettysburg address with that outstanding speech😂😂😂😂

[@MattThom01]

Always a good idea to bring up the alleged crimes while defending yourself!

[@johsheli]

The second defendant spent his whole entire time saying absolutely nothing that was meaningful.

[@joshcarter-com]

You’re not kidding. For all his talk of logic, there was absolutely no logic on display. He just goes in circles.

[@scottdiamond74]

Pissing off the jury with nonsense is an interesting strategy...

[@willer3399]

Suggested alternate title for the video. “You Can Lead A SovCit to Logic, But You Can’t Make Them Think.”

[@doneestoner9945]

Yes !

[@popetoper]

"Impossible means not possible" WOW, I am surprised the judge didn't dismiss the case right there. This guy is a GENIUS!!

[@J.fromMI1277]

Judge asked if he wanted to apply for a PD. He said "sure". Its the only smart thing he has said at almost 12 minutes in. Bet he tries to fire his lawyer. No gambling.

[@anonymousone2843]

I kind of sort of committed the robbery, kidnapping and sexual assault, but I want to logically persuade, but not manipulate you that it was only kind of sort of me that kind of sort of committed these crimes. 🤣 What he is accused of is disturbing and disgusting. All those jurors need to hear is that he was involved in any way and that's it for him. He is guilty as sin. God Bless 🥰

[@GodsProperT]

😂😂😂😂

[@lindalumae]

He’s kinda sort of guilty as hell.

[@terriammon9767]

WE ARE ALL IN "AGREEANCE" THAT WAS ABOUT THE WORST OPENING STATEMENT WE'VE EVER HEARD CORRECT? 🤣 🤣

[@dublev78]

People of the jury, this nucular assault on my rights will prove you coincidences are not just foilage on the ground. I will axe predertinent questions that will prove you I am not pronounciating and home invading or throwing downstairs 77 year old womans.

[@liesbethklap3967]

Yes

[@dragoncubes1074]

I agreeify with you.

[@mantra4612]

Interesting legal strategy. Defining common words and tn reminding the jury of the violent, vile things he is accused of

[@uriituw]

There’s absolutely no need to shout.

[@J.fromMI1277]

Man if you did that to a 77 year old woman; About my moms age, You deserve the dungeon of the worst State prison in Illinois. Hope the COs give you to the Cons.

[@PVCswede]

That was really disturbing! 😒

[@AllieBFromTN]

I agree

[@PVCswede]

@@AllieBFromTN Thank you for replying too:) I’m glad @jasonlemere1277 wrote this comment, it needed to be said!

[@SteveMillerTalks]

Wow... I got edumacated on Law Talk today -- the impossible means not possible... and incredible means it's not credible!

[@MrWeezer55]

The last guy was about as much fun as a colonoscopy.

[@alwallace4538]

That Yohn opening was amazing! Anytime someone asks about the Dunning Kruger test I'll just pull this up. He obviously thinks he's smarter than he is by a long shot.

[@MadteaGaming]

The first guy basically opened with, "Your Honor, the first thing I'd like to do is incriminate myself." And the second guy's most credible opening argument was "I will show you what manipulation, coercion, and deceit is." Yeah, I believe you will, just not on the part of who you claim's doing it.

[@brianjenkins6325]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it has a right to travel in its personal property and it does not want to be a part of your corporation !

[@marilynsmith365]

😂😂😂😂

[@marilynsmith365]

And get me your supervisor who is fluent in duck!!!!

[@mikealan9374]

I will not joinder with them!

[@justd4377]

Maybe he can get a GED during his upcoming extended stay in prison.

[@fdfoodfairy2834]

The look on prosecutor dude’s face during the Scooby Doo story is priceless🚒🚒

[@Aga99999]

His mom said "my lovely young man?"

[@pennkeuka]

Judge to baliff: sir, if you hear the words, Commerce, traveling, affidavit, or I didn't do nothin, spray the defendant in the face with your oc spray for each violation.

[@angelraburn4401]

Can we please have a shirt that says “I don’t know which way to go anymore” 😂😂😂😂

[@OldNurseBossyMeemaw]

last guy and his opening argument: cringe factor 10/10

[@CanadaMatt]

I was hoping to catch this one live, but it would have required me to persuade myself about an impossible coincidence that wasn't logical.

[@noneofyourbusiness_7]

I'm in agreeance!

[@pollycebula605]

The expression on the male lawyer's face is hysterical.

[@Mylifeisnotmyown]

This is like listening to a kid run for class historian in middle school class elections.

[@amykleinpeter5874]

As a middle school teacher, I must agree!

[@4422michael]

Impossible means not possible. Breathtaking.

[@jten6632]

They’ve DNA, fingerprints, footage of him and accomplice in victim’s car wearing her purse. He objected to almost none of the evidence being admitted. He’s toast!

[@aztec0112]

So what case is this? Yohn VS the Electric chair? I'm thinking the chair is winning.

[@byrontownsel7274]

"Persuasion is not logical". What does that even mean?

[@ElyHayz]

These people prove that a little bit of law knowledge is REALLY dangerous 😂🤣

[@MadteaGaming]

Yohn presents all these convoluted statements about evidence, persuasion, and how "odd" and "coincidental" things appear (basically *admitting* he's gonna *look* guilty), but as Mike points out, he *never* - in *any* part of it - says he didn't do it. One would think that'd be the *one thing* you *would* say in an opening argument if you're hoping for an acquittal.

[@firebird6522]

"Sometimes you may learn something here..." Yep, even before Mike said it, as soon as that idiot SovCit said, "I've been in trouble before" I knew he'd already screwed up. I have learned something alright!

[@thudthud5423]

SovCit Defendant: "Your Honor, I don't feel like I did anything wrong." Judge: "Well, 'feeling' requires you to have a brain, and yet I see no indication that you have one."

[@mjustjeanette7026]

I pity the poor jurors who had to sit through this. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

[@cdrone4066]

There is no jury, it’s a pre trial hearing.

[@tronner_the_awesome]

@@cdrone4066 the second guy is 100% speaking to a jury.

[@iamlegalOKC]

That was awesome Mike! I felt as though I was transported back to law school, learning from a true master.

[@jasonbender2459]

SHHHH! We all learn from mike, but we are NEVER to admit that fact. SHIT!!! Forget I said that!!

[@Heart_man08]

Wish you could cover this trial!! Maybe lol?!?? Love y'all!! Cheers

[@J.fromMI1277]

He is the prosecutions best witness. He sounds like a prosecutor during opening statements and closing Argument.

[@crispyone2564]

A man so eloquent could not do acts such as these set forth upon you wonderful jurors with such wisdom. I say thee, my brother beebee, hit me. Amen

[@mcraige109]

Hello Mike, let's talk!💬 "SovCit" Time... As soon as the defendant mentioned "Traveling", The Judge threw herself back, deep into her chair!🪑 Judge asked DA is he a "SovCit"?⚠️🚨🙄 Mike... It's time to break out the one & only screaming chicken! 🐔 📣 Hey Mike... you should have a "SovCit" week🏛 like "Shark Week"🦈! Lastly: We Have "Mumble Mouth"... Persuade,Persuadee, Persuader,Persuasion.... Did I hear the Prosecutor Laughing😂 Have a great rest of your week my friend!🤝😎

[@spookycanuck1]

Sovcits have to represent themselves as no lawyer in their right mind would use sovcit ramblings in court.

[@anneirenej]

The look on the prosecutors face is priceless. People… get a lawyer for goodness sake. This is why. If he did these crimes or if he didn’t, he should have competent representation. Most people talk in circles when we are under pressure. As always thanks for explaining the law to us.

[@ianitor]

aggreance sounds so good tho Mike... it's like agreefulism

[@janetjohnston8243]

Persuasion, Logic, Incredible, demented, lies BINGO. Didn’t need to use the free space. 😜

[@jenniferharris4005]

I watched this trial today!! I kept thinking how I wish this group was watching with me!

[@North_West1]

Defendant (Yohn) was already sentenced to 7 years confinement for jail contraband.

[@mhc706]

bro just took 30mins to say nothing except "those other people are wasting your time" his opening statement would already have "guilty" setting in concrete in my mind

[@brittanyo5467]

So many of these judges sounds absolutely exhausted.

[@pattyp3429]

He failed Darrell Brooks Remedial Intro to Sov Citizenry

[@J.fromMI1277]

This what? Did he say "adventure". He is about to have a real adventure in the Corrections Department once he is found guilty. Bet the jury is out less than 6 hours. No gambling.

[@DustinRodriguez1_0]

In college, I studied 2 subjects - Computer Science, and Philosophy. So... I have studied a LOT of logic. Of all kinds. And... I do not believe the man defending himself has any understanding of logic. Nor would I attempt to convince a jury with use of logical argumentation. Very few people are familiar with, or look positively on, the kind of concrete arguments philosophers make. In philosophy, if someone says 'she was thrown down the stairs', but it turns out she was actually kicked and fell down the stairs, then your claim is false and there is no wiggle room. That is not the case in court or anywhere else, and the jury would not be convinced. 'Thrown down the stairs' is entirely acceptable rhetorical flourish for describing any situation where one person causes another to fall down the stairs. And it sounds like he's going to base his defense on arguing against use of language like that? Hah. Good luck.

[@davidponseigo8811]

Good evening Mike. I truly hope you don't have any tornado damage. We had a few hit us down here in Louisiana and we lost power for close to a week and a half. I don't wish that on anyone. I have survived four direct tornado hits over the years and they are one of the few things that scare me. I have been in shootouts on multiple occasions and I don't flinch from that but a tornado and all bets are off.

[@tcurry1531]

Mike, a friend of mine's mother was attacked in her apartment basement garage as she was coming home from the bank. The guy hit her and stole her purse. She made it back to her apartment but was hurt. She also died not to long after this happened, I think because she no longer wanted to live in this abusive world. She was in her 70's and was still working. They never caught the guy.

[@bobmartin1060]

"I didn't do anything wrong here" reminded me of, "they took my stapler." Milton in Office Space

[@macroman52]

My guess is he is going to say the woman was not injured - "If I threw this old woman down some staris how come she had no broken bones??! How about that?!! We all know old people have brittle bones."

[@ladytyphon7261]

The moment I hear a defendant call a 77 year old victim a liar, and compare it to his lying sibling and the shocking parenting he grew up with………….makes an unlikeable defendant.

[@rachaelmckinnon1228]

Mike - please, please, please keep covering this one. Good stuff.

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

I think he was trying to say that being logical is his favorite pasttime, and presenttime, and futuretime. 😂

[@calvinmarkpayne]

08:19 - "I don't think I need a lawyer, I don't think I was doing anything wrong". In court being accused of something you don't think you did would be exactly when you do need a lawyer surely.

[@rascally_ryan]

I believe he’s going to file a Writ of ‘Heinious Corpus’ 😆

[@tatersnmaters5302]

I think my dog thinks I'm having a seizure, second clip is gold, haven't laughed this hard in a while

[@J.fromMI1277]

Craptacular was the perfect description of this one Mike. Craptacular is also a T-shirt word for the T-shirt with all the words and sayings on it heard on LTWM.

[@rj9203]

That was so pitiful that I might consider giving him time out of his cell to achieve a G.E.D.

[@jamesplymire5342]

He also thinks incredible means not credible. 😂

[@habakkuk4711]

My dad used to say " he's using a quarter worth word when a nickel word is good". Now passed almost 40 years he was full of country wisdom. My favorite was his observation of self satisfied grins, " he looked like a mule chewing sawbriar".

[@Mycosyco1]

Thanks Mike! I’m southwest of you and sorry for forwarding the bad weather your way!

[@0Ghostie0]

Sovereign citizens sure do love their word salads.

[@prairie1565]

Oh, this creature is going to have so much fun in prison 🤣

[@J.fromMI1277]

Is his name Webster and he is writing the new upgraded version of the dictionary?

[@MotherMeece]

I've watched 'Home Alone' enough to know that you can be thrown down a flight of stairs by taking a direct hit in the face with a full paint can, and still bounce right back! You apparently just helped the woman down the stairs, so gently that she died from her injuries. Scum, hopefully they have the death penalty in your state!!

[@patriciasnyder6318]

Someone please buy this man a dictionary. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@firebird6522]

But NOT a Black's Law Dictionary.

[@AustinThinker79]

“Incredible means not credible”. Wow… just… wow… LOL

[@karenlittle5125]

What does he want a Scooby Doo snack… This guy is off his rocker

[@markinnes4264]

OOOOH the pain... this guy's speech went on and on...about what?

[@Timmichanga361]

There was a part of my brain that thought all of the SovCit bs would stop once we were done with Covid....thats the part of my brain i am hitting on the wall now

[@PatrickJDoyle-bw3fu]

That hammering sound is the carpenter's building your gallows.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

This is what happens when you believe everything you read on the internet is true. You're traveling on public roads maintained by registration and driver license fees

[@acedibiase7038]

You can lead a sovcit to water but you cant make them think

[@cmsxcb]

Title should be, "You can lead a SovCit to water, but you can't make them THINK"

[@McBeelzebub]

As per the guy at the 15 minute mark and also almost everyone who attempts to defend themselves pro se, don’t try to talk like how you think lawyers talk. The most embarrassing thing is watching people butcher the English language trying to parrot how they think lawyers speak.