You know we had to talk about... SEX

[@lovebrittt]

This needs a part two! This convo was more about sex within the context of purity. Now us married folks need a convo on sex within marriage. Different libido’s, setting the mood, intimacy etc. We need to talkkkkkkk lol

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Ooooooh good content idea!

[@bubblegumprincess]

Agreed! I’m 33, newly married and was a virgin beforehand. hubby had one sex partner in his mid twenties. we waited till marriage…we don’t know what we doin 😂 😂 doesn’t help that neither or us are innately romantic. Hope y’all can do a video on this also! Loving the podcast ❤️

[@whitneylaryeaa1797]

I second this idea!!! Definitely a challenge especially after being together for so long

[@JesusIsEverything-abk]

I was a virgin until I got marriage and was 30! My husband was not. I feel like I still don’t know what I’m doing but rest assured that your husband loves you so much that even your slightest touch, he loves

[@Laydeemystic26]

*click click click* ❤

[@jesustriumphantministriesi9061]

Jess! you hit a lottery with him. the wisdom and confidence in his faith is contagious.

[@SAS-tn4zn]

I'm team Jess!!! 😍😍😍 From one wife to another Jess I agree with you about 90s music. This new music is not like that at all to me. Give me that 90s love music 🎶🎵🎵

[@MiaSmomof2]

Same

[@momtwinboys2865]

Same Same nothing hits me like the 90s or even before the 90s..

[@naturallynay7231]

Lol I’m definitely a 90s R&B type girl. I gotcho back Jess lol.

[@kwazzik5453]

Reminds me of Shai- If I ever fall in love😂

[@shonta111]

TEAMJESS always, yet Jonathan has a comforting temperament. You two are a great balanced pair. 😍

[@shonta111]

Which makes me ask Jess, are you okay? Your energy seems a bit low on this one and you're pushing through for us. 🫶🏽 Hope you got some rest.

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

I’m TEAM JESS too! - Jon

[@krys2153]

I love when you all share your story. I think it helps people who feel like they have to be perfect to get what they prayed for. The anti goal part was so on point too!

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Thanks so much, you guys!

[@daughterofthelordgodalmighty]

❤Definitely agree with you guys. I know that young people don’t love hearing the church say “don’t have sex because the Bible says so”… but as Bible believing Christians we should strive to love the Lord with all our hearts. And Jesus says if we love Him we keep His commandments and we know that the Lord hates sexual immorality. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 “It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God”❤

[@chloejohnson3184]

Amen, and there are many areas of self-control that are not taught or practiced in the church. We can't cherry pick, which is the worst of sins and judge people. Sin is sin, young or not. This is a huge thing that the church and youth groups have been failing at since I was young.

[@twinmom6009]

Does the Lord "hate"? Is the Lord capable of hate? This is a real question. I've never associated the Lord with hate, so I was wondering if He actually does exhibit hate.

[@daughterofthelordgodalmighty]

@@twinmom6009 there are passages throughout the Bible that describe how the Lord feels about sin. Isaiah 61:8 says “For I the Lord love justice; I hate robbery and wrong;”. And Psalm 11:5 says “The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.”. The Lord is perfect and holy therefore he cannot dwell with sin. Which is why Jesus died for us to make us righteous before Him.❤️

[@twinmom6009]

​@@daughterofthelordgodalmightyThanks so much for the explanation and scripture. ❤

[@daughterofthelordgodalmighty]

@@twinmom6009 you’re welcome!

[@linenashley]

Not getting down to Stevie 😂 This was such a good listen!

[@je39981]

This video is soo good ! I had to re-identify what sex meant for myself in the context of a Godly marriage years ago. Church had their way of describing the “Why” behind sex and I gained my own understanding of why I made a personal decision to wait. All the key points you both mentioned were the reasons. I didn’t know about the 3 stages which is something new I can add onto my list. As a single woman, making the self-decision to decide to wait was me saying I wanted to do it God’s way. Cherishing my body as a temple and telling God to lead in my life. The man that God has for me will take on that same commitment. Amen.

[@naturallynay7231]

Perfect timing for the upload. I’m just getting home from work. Lemme put my feet up and relax ❤

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Perfect!

[@Airazmarie]

I needed this message because I have been going through the negative effects of sex with the men I’ve been interacting with. Helping me show what I value and how I want to be valued.

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Love that! Thanks for sharing!

[@cerisue15]

Jess, I’m glad you brought up the topic about how the church tries to solve the issue of sex before marriage by not talking about it at all. Because I believe it actually does not model what the Bible tells us. For example, God clearly tells us to not sin, but he also prepares us for temptation. As well, He tells us what to do when we do fall. We have the ability to repent. We have the ability to pray, fast and seek his face before falling into temptation. We have the ability after we fall to go and ask for forgiveness. So, I feel like the church isn’t embodying what Christ exemplifies.

[@twinmom6009]

Excellent point!

[@indriadrayton1132]

I admire that you both abstained before marriage. You did everything right!

[@cassiebrunson1590]

I totally agree with Jess on the bedroom music 😆 music sets the vibe and though Ribbon in the sky is a love song, to me it's not a making love song. I also agree with the steps that should be taken before giving your body to someone, if it's done first, you do miss the connections and trying to get back to the start is a upward battle. Great talk guys ❤❤❤

[@jenifferchristie5209]

Amen!!! Jonathan is preaching on this episode!!

[@apg311]

Not me saying eww to Stevie wonder… that’s more of a nice picnic vibes or something… not passionate love making. I agree with you Jess 😂

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

lol I guess Jonathan is just different 😂

[@loveafrica97]

I didn’t realize you guys didn’t wait, thanks for sharing!

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Our pleasure!

[@fatimamiller2681]

Tears are in my eyes while I am watching this. God bless you.. I've been watching you since your hair videos, but I stay. I live with the convictions of my choices. But what your husband said reminds me of God's love and grace.. thank you so much.

[@vanessaosei-bonsu8603]

Love your transparency, love you two as a kingdom couple with all the realness and love the talks keep them coming 90s for sureeeeeee “cause tonight I want to get freaky with youuuuu” or whatever they said. Thank God he’s a redeemer frfr because this purity life isn’t easy after falling but I love what you two mentioned, “how much do I actually want to heal from this and not fall prey to this sin or struggle”. Love the white toes Jess and Jonathan providing the “physical love” language. You two are just perfectly imperfect, keep shining your light and putting in the effort, it is beautiful to witness the fruits and strive towards them myself. Have a great week!

[@Gorjustory724]

#1 podcast… imma just keep saying it. Can we talk about the education and the maturity with G_d as the focal point?! This is what the people need

[@sheenaprempeh138]

Jess im with you on this. They dont know what intimacy and real R&B❤❤❤

[@dariusevans4468]

Man. Reverend Wallace. Whew! You are truly anointed, Jonathan. I'm definitely Team Jonathan.

[@PhyliciaTheDiva]

I absolutely love the both of you. I appreciate you both sharing with all honesty and tons of compassion. Tackling things that are extremely important to understand as God fearing people gliding through a kindred-spirit relationship with each other. Extremely happy to see it. i am preparing for marriage and afraid to navigate some things truthfully. This has helped me to see both sides and angles of being in a relationship with someone as equally yoked as the two of you are. I pray that all great things and blessings continue to come and flow through to you two. Always supporting subscriber, Leigh 🕊

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Thanks for watching, Leigh!

[@twinmom6009]

Jess, I agree with you. Ribbon in the Sky (Intro's version) was my first dance wedding song, but it's definitely not a lovemaking song. It's romantic, like Jonathan said. That's what you want for your wedding, romance, not sex. The sex comes after the wedding during the honeymoon. That's when we're playing your 90s Playlist.

[@Itsswhit]

This definitely fed my spirit!! I can relate so much to the taboo sex talk growing up. So this was so refreshing. I feel like I left this video with a tool bag. I can use this in my adult life and in my marriage. Thank you guys so much for having this conversation. I’m declaring it now - me and my husband WILL meet you guys! Beautiful couple💕🫶🏽

[@keishlaspivey232]

I agree about the church lacking with really helping understand the why of staying pure. I grew up in church and of course we were taught to abstain... however the importance of why was/ is left out. 🌺🧡

[@LuxurCr3Tv]

This topic omg the three phases everyone not only needs to know but understand these phases. I’m glad y’all sharing this topic. We stand for Johnathan but we definitely team Jess don’t get it twisted sis we got ur back 😂😂😂. I love the maturity of these vlogs. I need to add this to my Spotify. So I can listen n go not just wait for the upload.

[@OnlyOneJess]

lol omg thank youuu 😂💕💕

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Thanks for watching! 😊

[@LuxurCr3Tv]

@@OnlyOneJess welcome 🤗

[@LuxurCr3Tv]

@@BetweenTheWallsPod oh I’m locked in

[@boitumelomel5724]

Before I watched I was like 🙄 another sex video but after I was like man I really needed to hear this. The conversation went beyond sex and it was so informative. All my African brothers and sisters need to hear this. We are groomed to work hard at school and find good jobs, wake up one day a bring someone home, get married and succeed at it like we were prepared for it. Man this helped a lot❤

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Thank you so much, this means a lot!!

[@makhaliacharles58]

Most churches don't talk about sex I don't know why. All they ever say is "don't have sex", I would like to talk about it in the Youth Group that I'm in, but ofc different age groups etc.

[@Aklucke4241]

We need to here these two playlists 😂

[@michellefrazier3288]

Great conversation! I’m 27 and I’ve never dated. Your videos help a lot especially when I’m feeling like a weirdo for not ever having a boyfriend. All I’m saying is…. Hopefully, it’ll be worthwhile when I do start! #God’s timing

[@verb247]

Hi guys, as Jess always says “I know we are only 2 years in…” but you guys are blessed to have this much knowledge under your belts at such a young age, and this early in your marriage. Having a strong foundation with open communication, trust and are willing to love your “crazy” unconditionally will carry you a long way. As far as the music goes, I can vibe with all of it 😂. Jess, I feel you on hearing those boom and bass beats of the 90’s, I love it! At the same time try to clear your head and open your mind to Jonathan’s Ribbon in the sky type music and you will experience a different side of things. Most of all Enjoy!☺️

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

thank you!! we appreciate it so much!! ill have to come around to the ribbon in the sky loll

[@D.Alexandria-ob1dd]

Absolutely loved this 💜💜💜 yall wisdom is speaking to me forreal.

[@TheChocBeauty]

I totally agree. Sex hides/distorts/camouflages the real issues that should be addressed before marriage.

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

100%

[@tashabnicole]

But this could also be the case in a marriage. So I don't think it's exclusive to those having sex before marriage.

[@winterfresh4208]

😂LOL moments [literal]: "Ribbon in the sky"...My husbands 80😅 Yall sound thirsty sometimes 🥴🤣 SN: 90s R&B will foreva hit 🔥 💪🏽it's good for in and our the bedroom 🤭

[@TheCraftingNook]

Jess I feel you boo. Be what God wants us to be. ❤❤❤❤

[@queendee6451]

I read the title of this video and started singing it 😂

[@JulianAlbino]

stevie wonder on a sex playlist is wild! lol thats so funny

[@JvstHere]

Jonathan’s emoting is hilarious pls never stop 😭😭🤣

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

lol I appreciate the support 😂

[@nancysackey1504]

This was such an insightful conversation . God bless you

[@DrineThePoet]

This was an excellent podcast my goodness😮 The maturity here is amazing. Loved it!

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Davena-Nancy-Devena]

I remember Jess talking on one of her vlogs about them (her and Jonathan) not being around each others without others around. Homegirl was tired of it enuh 😅

[@shai2c154]

This was so good. I agree with what y'all are saying and even learned alot. I had some lightbulbs pop💡❤

[@OnlyOneJess]

Thank you!! 🤍🤍

[@Necipooh224]

Yes I definitely feel like sex should be talked about so much that it becomes the norm and talked about as this sacred high value thing not something that dirty people do. Like it’s talked about as if it’s forbidden the same way as drugs or illegal activities and no one talks about why you should wait. Sometimes reasons are needed adults need to stop with the because I said so or because that’s what god says it’s okay to explain why something is the way it is and a child is not disrespectful for asking. Also framing the reason to not have sex as because you can get stds or pregnant makes you think ok I can’t do it because these things can happen but if I can find a way to make these things not happen such as birth control and condoms then it’s ok when that is not the reason.

[@TwanaHanson-dv2yp]

Gurl I'm old but I must say you have a great man.

[@Diamondj88]

I’m so glad that you mentioned how goofy Trey Songz songs are. I thought I was the only one 😂

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

EXTREMELY goofy lol

[@dmt7808]

The 90’s for me😂😂😂My hubby is more like Johnathan.

[@shevewelch306]

Belize hear, my favorite internet couple

[@PreciousOne777]

How did you guys develop that cononiah after you had been initimate? I understand that Jonathan went to Atlanta and he had this aha moment after that time apart that you guys had and him spending time with Father, but how did you truly develop that God-like intimacy together?

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Every day it’s still a work in progress. But a lot of prayer, good community of believers prayers, and boundless grace

[@girlmeetsjoy]

He said ribbon in the sky and I screamed in this car shop lmao because ENOUGH

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

😅😅

[@Literary_Baddie5838]

I would like the two of you to address the topic of how the churches in Kenya were aiding and abetting murderous criminals who killed babies because of America, IMF and China. I am a proud Kenyan so do not disappoint me. I have also been a faithful supporter even though I stopped going to church and praying years ago. I know you are familiar with Kenya's game by now. 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪

[@Literary_Baddie5838]

🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪

[@TimewithLivi]

Love y’all’s podcast so much!

[@OnlyOneJess]

Thank you babeee! 🤍

[@WatchingTheWatsons]

Jonathan be preaching on here tbh

[@MayizaWenge]

I be waiting on this podcast to drop like a check!! 😂🤣

[@OnlyOneJess]

Just got paid babyyyy lol 🤍🤍

[@MayizaWenge]

@@OnlyOneJess okayy!! ching ching lol

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

We appreciate you!

[@MayizaWenge]

@@BetweenTheWallsPod 🤗

[@mosunshine9265]

A Ribbon in the Sky!!!!! Jonathan is on to something!!!! LOL

[@britt2606]

I needed this 🙌🏾

[@Sandy-fy2dv]

This was so good guys❤

[@JadaGenise]

Definitely needed this!

[@JUNIORSUICIDE99]

Bro married angie stone

[@raemahhenderson1602]

perfect timing for me, thank you.

[@Me-ht8oo]

4:18 did Johnathan just say “the instagram” 🤣🤣🤣

[@AmandaGabriel876]

Thanks for all the wisdom❤ #holinessovercomfortability

[@SickOfdaOrdinary]

1:43 they all are going to do it… they always do it..

[@britneyt9253]

What do you do on your skin for skin care? I have the same complexion but struggle with acne

[@StarC2233]

Def #TeamJess all day errdayyy... Jonathan...Stevie is NOT the vibes lol

[@unapologeticallyromel7096]

Finally I subscribe so dumb 😂 but I like your channel. I really love y'all as a couple you two can laugh and talk about non gospel music and not take stuff so deep and be super spiritual and despite the topics you both are followers of Christ.

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Thanks man!

[@yolannolan8306]

Loved this❤

[@rhondagoodwin5711]

Yes Hebrew is the original written form for our 1st century biblical knowledge. In order to understand the Bible in its right context we must understand Hebrew. ❤ Messianic Sinactism keeping the word in all it's truth.

[@makinniroberts8930]

Oh nawww!!! 90's music all day e'ryay!❤😅

[@annsertima4439]

Do you guys have the link to the sermon you were referring to?

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHrNfZ6bgJJojK8si=xaVODhJHvgrclWET

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

We gotchu!!

[@Bellaei]

Ribbon in the sky??!!! 😂 Boy NO! 👎🏿

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

lol whattttttt?!

[@suziesmith9076]

Can you link the sermon Johnathon was talking about please

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHrNfZ6bgJJojK8si=V-qxIAj9ykyTFXwD

[@ExclusiveBarbie94]

Happy Tuesday ☺️

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

Same to you!

[@KnitsByNayla]

Not ribbon in the sky 😂😂😂

[@shevewelch306]

😂😂😂😂😂 knock knock knocking on the wall

[@ashh7877]

😂

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

lol that song is so unintentionally comical

[@youcoolbro]

Great conversation

[@OnlyOneJess]

Thank you!! 🤍🤍

[@curlytisha4375]

Great topic! ❤

[@BlackkOnyxx]

I’m confused… I remember Jess saying for years that you all did not have sex before marriage… are you now saying that yall did?

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

I have actually never said that lol people always assumed that because i said we are practicing abstinence but practice didnt make perfect over here but i was very open in saying its been hard or we weren't always perfect.

[@BlackkOnyxx]

@@BetweenTheWallsPod yall weren’t practicing…. Yall failed…. Stating that yeah we are abstaining or practicing abstinence and it’s hard is a false narrative. Stating that we’ve had sex and now for the duration we are choosing to not engage in xy and z is a true statement…. Yall lied initially…practicing abstinence like practicing law or medicine means to actually do it…. Once you have sex, the practice is over. This conversation while good, is not a real raw conversation which is really what the church is missing…. This is a flowery Christian churchy convo….filled with lingering guilt and shame… it’s time to let go of all of that or not have the conversation at all, because what’s the point?? We can all google Hebrew….

[@brianad.2542]

Link to the sermon?

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHrNfZ6bgJJojK8si=V-qxIAj9ykyTFXwD

[@shevewelch306]

Speak it Jess, that's just kit and run 😂😂😂

[@BlackkOnyxx]

This is a great convo however, it needs “I” statements. You all are distancing yourself from your own story by using “you”….

[@indriadrayton1132]

I enjoy some Chillhop, myself....

[@banthony620]

A Ribbon In The Sky for the win

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

I’m saying!!!!

[@shevewelch306]

I'm just hearing it

[@anne-sophienuma5117]

Sexual healing for the song ❤

[@stephj.4317]

❤❤❤

[@Gaszy218]

Team Johnathan because he does less lol 3:53 - 4:09 was unnecessary y’all should’ve took that out

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

the bible is never unnecessary

[@shevewelch306]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Neesha242]

I guess opposites attract 🧲. Yall just seem so different from each other, but I could be wrong.

[@OnlyOneJess]

We’re very different but also in many ways the same lol

[@BetweenTheWallsPod]

What she said lol