You're Wrong About Enlisted's "Campaign Merge" Update

[@MajorMcDonalds]

*Note:* I obviously couldn't respond to every comment a bout it, so I picked the ones with the most "likes" to focus on, as it's safe to assume that many of you agreed with them. Of course, there are some big things I disagree with about the merge just like many of you. But, I hope this video has gone at least some way to show you why this update is important, and how we can improve it together. Some other things I should have mentioned in the video: - The new meta Q&A is what the devs used to confirm selecting maps in the future as a feature to be added soon! - Regarding upgrades/tech tree, you can "bank" research points to instantly use them when new weapons/equipment come out, reducing the grind even further! War Thunder does NOT have this feature.

[@Idkwhattoput151]

Here’s a list of things I don’t like (I like the merge, but I believe these need to change) 1. Tier III definitely needs a rework 2. Lower the rp needed for a single level 3. Increase silver gains, I feel as though ~3k silver for over 100 kills is just too little imo 4. Make only the equipment that comes with squads required research.

[@chrishoward7733]

My entire friend group quit playing the game after this update.historical accuracy is dead. Moroccans in Normandy and Pacific. Volkstrum in areas they aren't supposed to be in. Battle rating is scuffed I was playing BR2 and saw and IS-1 like bro c'mon. It's insulting to the people who actually fought there imo. And this is no hate on you obviously but I'll probably quit playing and unsub man. As I'll not be interested In The game . The only reason I play this over HLL and post scriptum is I don't want to play a who shot me simulator. The merge was Necessary isn't a good argument if you alienate 1/3 of your audience.if you lose 33% of your paycheck would you it effect you? Exactly. They took our choices away from us boys and people applaud 😢

[@Isaacthegamer123]

Bring Britain back and if you don’t bring it back, just make it so we can enlist British soldiers

[@johnsmith-jq1uc]

@@chrishoward7733 fr

[@Tonk0996]

My main issue with the merge is that I can't choose the maps i want to play, I mostly played on moscow and a bit on tunisia for the maps. I just love the uniqueness to those battlefields now i get matched up on stalingrad and berlin, regions that i do not like because they are filled with destroyed cities with few open spaces, most of my friends played on moscow and they stopped playing after the merge. All i want is a way to choose my maps and play on all the battlefields that i like not what the game wants me to play with the equipment i have.

[@torbjrnsteinsland8985]

It's more accurate to have French defend Berlin than Italians.

[@dragonstalk86]

SS "Charlemagne", one of the last units to surrender

[@carterjones8126]

​@dragonstalk86 The unit already exists in Enlisted as the 33rd Grenadier Division (one radio operator squad, and one flametrooper squad).

[@averagepoiseenjoyer]

First thing the devs should consider is separating Italy and the commonwealth to their own factions Seeing an AB 41 in Stalingrad was way cursed to me

[@maineiacman]

That should have happened before this merge was released. Unbelievable that they didn't so that.

[@defender714]

You do know the Italians were in the Stalingrad front

[@prussia4428]

@@defender714not in Stalingrad where the maps take place, they were on the left, but not next to the 6th army but the Hungarian army on the left of the 6th army

[@visayanmissnanny2.076]

@@prussia4428Inside Stalingrad alongside the Germans were the Romanians, iirc.

[@prussia4428]

@@visayanmissnanny2.076 yes Romanians and Croatians. The Italians got lucky enough to be outside said pocket although would get wrecked while trying to hold the line under Manstein

[@梓あずき]

Biggest issue is that you can get into matches very unevenly, in terms of human player numbers and their battle ratings. It's literally a joke

[@bbcmotd]

The "merge" puts Crusaders in the Pacific, Moroccan bathrobe guys in Normandy and Tiger 2 in Stalingrad... How is that not wrong?

[@gigachad8425]

so what do you propose? we could always have tiger 1 fighting against stuarts in gray zones in normandy

[@sravans149]

Moroccan bathrobe guy 💀💀💀

[@DivyanshuRai-zb3ie]

@@gigachad8425 or jumbo killing puma?

[@gigachad8425]

@@DivyanshuRai-zb3ie yep but in that case a puma has a slight chance by shooting the drivers port but its still minicule

[@AlexandreAlex-o4g]

This is objectively wrong, they should have locked things behind each year.

[@diegotrejo1809]

Aside from the tier 3 issue, the merge has made wonders for me, finally i can enjoy using my bolties in peace

[@unclegee8434]

Awwww

[@williamt.sherman2573]

same here. have quit enlisted over a year ago and just came back

[@TheAllMightyGoofball]

i love the new balance for the merge upd

[@lapinwargame6147]

BR 1 is great! Although there s a lot of bot surprisingly

[@unclegee8434]

@@williamt.sherman2573 the pacific is a good place for bolties

[@TR-cr2xj]

Personally i prefer the old campaign system, the new one just reminds me so much of Warthunder which i burnt myself out on so much and i’m worried enlisted will just start being more and more like that game

[@Fiasco3]

They had a unique research and soldier system on debut and now yes they are copying the predatory monetary and tech tree systems of War Thunder and Wargamming WoT, World of Warships.

[@InTVS]

it is going to be WT, it has everything from it, from its arcade "shot deviation" to their small cramp maps with 0 logistics or tactics in mind + the grinding, YT are going nutz already with he new vehicles being announced, just like in WT, where the main goal of the game its to just get the new vehicle but its a good proof of concepts i think with a bette development team, and a real engine, like unreal 5 or Star Engine {if it works}, man imagine a game like enlisted but well done and in Star Engine? fuuuuck would be dope

[@toytacambery9427]

"Which I burnt MYSELF out on"

[@TR-cr2xj]

@@toytacambery9427 warthunder is an addicting game and infuriating game lol, I was just stating my personal opinion and WHY i believed it, their is no need for you to act as though I was insulting the creator for having a different view than me.

[@johnradey4362]

I think that the price of everything should be addressed. 3,000 for soldiers and tier 3 weapons you can even make 700 silver in on game. I thought the prices would be stable and fixed by it turned horrible.

[@Osama_Zyn_Laden]

​@GrenedearProductions To me it looks like it's similar to war thunder where they make it almost impossible to earn the coins, so you have to buy them. I remember when I would get one silver order each time I would play The Game. So after each game I could do upgrades. Now it is just grinded to a halt.

[@operationbrickfilm1916]

Yes you are right about the historical accuracy, but I also think it was pretty realistic before the merge. I remember when I started in Moscow, I enjoyed fighting with my Gewehr 33/40 and kar 98k's, but also having german squads around me that we're equipped with G41, ZH29, and MKB42's, as long as there are still many kar 98's, mp40 and mg34, wich were common in that time. So what I'm trying to say is basically just that even though it never was historically accurate, it still wasn't a game where there are just MKB's and G41, wich were extremely rare in that timeperiod, but still were used. When I downloaded the game I did it because of the campaigns, and I don't like it that there could be a Kingtiger vs a T28 in Berlin (and yes this really happend to me in a game). This is not just historically inaccurate, but also really unbalanced. Also at the beginning of the merge I was really confused about the new grind. I really don't like that I have all the squads in one ''campaign" now, because it is really confusing. I also had to empty all the squads I wasn't using and take all the good weapons out of them, because they randomly gave me squads I never used. I sat there for one entire hour to empty my squads, and still just were done withe the germans. Overall I'm not a fan of the merge, but I will not stop playing the game. Good video btw.

[@fender7695]

100%. I’m not playing until they have a campaign option again

[@potatofishcheesecake-os4qi]

Yeah i enjoyed the historical aspect of it. weapons from that era fighting other weapons of that era for me it gives immersion but now there is panthers and king tigers in places that it shouldn’t be. I mean it just dosent feel right to have an IS-2 or t34-85 in moscow or Stalingrad and i was kinda thinking on a battle rating/ map relation like br1 might be early war campaigns such as moscow or stalingrad and as the weapons improve the map changes too from moscow to berlin or from africa to normandy.

[@VKpoquipin]

Same. ​@@fender7695

[@aeiouhl]

I personally like the old campaign system way better because it made sense to me. You are limited to things that make sense for that campaign in that time period of the war. Now it feels like those limits were thrown out the window into a woodchipper. Now you see Pumas in Moscow, Italian vehicles in Stalingrad, etc.. Plus, the whole issue with Tier III being a mish-mash of both high and low tiers is kinda bad because it ruins balancing in some aspects.

[@goldenmosquito4093]

The campaigns were better but they were also unsustainable. You can’t keep adding campaigns since that would add more queues and that would mean less players in each campaign and longer wait times.

[@s_avy2218]

I do agree that the merge update has a lot of potential that many people don't see. However in the video you say how "map colours" are not that important, although the issue here is not about the map itself but instead about the soldiers: I used to mainly play the Tunisian campaign and I enjoyed fighting with italian squads, uniforms and equipment, I also spent customisation orders on my boys to buy them helmets and other stuff. With this update I barely get to see the uniforms I bought and I get stuffed in german shoes against my will. Personally I enjoy the update but I believe it is fundamental to have the ability to choose which set of maps to play in

[@Topinamburenjoyer]

10:55 it might not matter to you, but realistically, different gear is just suitable for different locations. In Moscow, you would take more snipers with strong scopes because the maps were open without many trees blocking the view (the wide open pit mine, the long open snowy fields and hills in Fortified District, the Beloe Lake with 300m sniping available half the battle), it is also very good option to take the infantry landmines since there are many trenches to occupy and run along - and for Stalingrad, you go from room to room, wall to wall, so you don't need the snipers most of the time, and use rapid-fire weapons to be ready to clear the rooms at any moment. I also take all TNT-blocks in Stalingrad (oh wait, I took before the f***ing merge) to be always ready to stick it on top of a tank that I could ambush from a nearby building. Now, you are thrown into an environment that does not fit the gear you took from a tactical perspective - not talking about historical perspective at all here. Maybe you don't care about it but others think how they will use the gear in the certain terrain, and choose that gear for their soldiers accordingly.

[@spencersecrest6001]

Yes even some maps some vehicles get stuck because they weren't ment for some maps

[@dmitripazlov491]

Not only that but the way you can choose what your character looks like too. I was an axis Moscow main and I made sure my men had clothes that would suit their terrain (since I was a sniper too) and now all the sudden I'm in Normandy and my snipers are wearing all white🙄

[@odst9555]

I come to enlisted for a fun accurate ww2 shooter not some battle field game with guns from 1938 used in 1945 what happened to the historical realism and now this find the best gun and win the match

[@SurroundSt]

I think the new research system is way too grindy, the required points curve just makes no sense at all, it goes from 40k to 80k to 100k and 120k just to unlock BR II, I think it should be more consistent going up by 10k at first and then making a large jump to unlock BR III

[@ejmuerterisefromthedead8924]

this i can agree, if you try unlocking vehicles it will get harder to unlock since you have to spend silver coins just to unlock a specific vehicle, this is only affects as free 2 play players, if your a premium user its an easy grind... and most of content creators here are premium users who can support the game and invest for a long time.

[@jabbathehutt8952]

@@ejmuerterisefromthedead8924you do realise how much more work the old system took. and allso youo had no choice over what you want

[@CFNightmare]

It was so much worse before the merge. I managed to unlock my Fedorov In 6 days with a premium account by simply grinding the 20k points for the event

[@tomasgibbs3235]

@@ejmuerterisefromthedead8924 i agree with your agreement as i was about to unlock the sturmpistole but now i got to go back and unlock a bunch of stuff i probably wont use

[@spencersecrest6001]

​@@jabbathehutt8952just no now i gotta unlock like 6 tanks I don't want just to get one I want even no i have the 4 tanks before it

[@thelonehussar6101]

I got curbstomped in the old version, and I get curbstomped in the current version. I don’t see that much of a difference lol

[@last1standing22]

before:progress to win now: "wait did you want to gain an advantage?"

[@The_Mythical_Potato]

"This system is much more fairer" Me whos a tier 1 fighting agaisnt people with KV-1s, SVT-40, and PPSH:

[@RinaRavyn]

What they need to remove is equipment dependency in research. I have the Panzer IV J, so i was able to start research Panzer IV H. I have finished researching it, but now i cant claim it, because im "required to get previous stuff in the line" - MEANING MOSCOW TANKS! The game forces us to grind stuff we dont want to grind, all the way until the line is filled out, up to the point where we actually want to research.

[@Topinamburenjoyer]

3:43 - did you seriously use a screen from freaking 3 YEARS AGO to prove everybody was complaining about fighting as level 1 player in Normandy? I see he complains about artillery every 30 seconds hahahah xDD bro, the situation changed from that time, the devs nerfed the artillery so that the radio guy calls it once per 2 minutes. He's also complaining about bombs that kill everyone on the map - which was also FIXED AT LEAST A YEAR AGO - the shrapnel goes up into a cone instead of a full sphere of damage and you can avoid it by laying on the ground, and if the pilot is unlucky and the bomb lands in a hole, the shrapnel won't hit any soldier at all. Come on, man. You don't have well based arguments

[@zolmoltia]

Me: wanting to play Italy in Tunisa Gaijin: Berlin, Moscow, Normandy, and Stalingrad, take it or leave it

[@Borys898]

In my opinion, they could have made the research tree the same as it is now and added the campaign back where would be the maps and data equipment of campaigns such as the Battle of Moscow But that's just my opinion

[@vanja2565]

I have been suggesting on the server to add invasion of sicily/italy in 1943/44, this would be a good "excuse" to make italians and bri'ish separate factions and give them tier 4/5 equipment. PS people who bitch about the game being ruined and stuff haven't given it a try at all, i too wanted to quit but did not beacuse of the new event, now a few days later when i figured it out i don't see any negatives at all (except that i loose ranks really fast for some reason)

[@vassiliblucher2763]

I mean i kinda feel like they ruined the balance the moment germans got the mp43 and panther in normandy since it just one upped the jumbo in being broken rather than be a balancer

[@vanja2565]

@@vassiliblucher2763 why does it need to be 100% balanced? Play around it learn to counter with different tactics and improve

[@vassiliblucher2763]

@@vanja2565 So pretty much you saying the merge is pointless?

[@flarvin8945]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@vassiliblucher2763since you admitted the balance was broken before the merged. And given the merged fixed things outside of balanced matches, like perks and having to grinded the same equipment over and over. I don't see how the merge was 'pointless'. Especially given balance is overall better.

[@vassiliblucher2763]

Seems like removing the op equipment or limiting their availability in battle and keeping the campaigns but adding a research tree so you could actually still choose where to fight without having to grind the same weapons would have been a bit more better maybe?

[@fender7695]

I lost everything. I was almost max level on one side of every campaign. To now have NOTHING. All my load outs I put 1000’s of hours of playtime just to have some call of duty shit pulled on me. I was so sad when the update finally happened. I enjoyed enlisted everyday of its existence up until this update.

[@MajorMcDonalds]

You KEEP everything you had, you haven’t lost anything AT ALL. For the update however they put things into the reserve like the squads you were probably using, so look there to find them again.

[@matejrada1354]

No, it is not impossible for such game to be both fun and historicaly accurate. Sorry, but you obviously don’t understand the “historical accuracy” part. Since I have seen this game for the first time, until now I have thought to myself that this game is one of the most historicaly accurate ww2 games I have ever seen (and if you knew me in person you would know that that means a lot). And I was amazed how it is so fun at the same time, because ww2 simulators like HLL or PS are often super frustrating. So, in conclusion, yes. It is very much possible for such game to be both fun and historicaly accurate at the same time. And that’s exactly what Enlisted used to be. Tbf, I am fine with other changes. And if you could pick for example Berlin campaign by picking only Berlin squads, that would be a huge improvement.

[@Cornwaffles]

I literally just downloaded the game 2 days ago and I can say that even with the first rifle you unlock can actually help you not get obliterated

[@ferdinandhlavac3842]

11:32 What a shit take. What matters to me is that I can choose what battle I want to fight in, depending on what I’m in the mood for. Sometimes I want a yellow map because I like the yellow maps. That doesn’t mean a white map isn’t fun. Just that I don’t want to play it right now.

[@igobongers5526]

People know this game wasn't 100% historically accurate but people that appreciate history we'll see some dude in like Arabian robes on the Western Front and it will just throw them out of the immersion it's not the fact that they really care it's that they get thrown out of the game when they see something so far out of historical context and not to mention it just gave the game personality having all the different campaigns with all the different unique soldiers split up like how the Marines were exclusively in the Pacific War it just added that extra realism I guess even though it wasn't going for it it was just a part of the game I appreciated and now it's gone and having some control over where I was fighting yes it was important to me because sometimes I felt like being a guy in the middle of the forest in Russia or I wanted to stroll through the streets of Berlin or fight my way through the rubble of Stalingrad or go to the Open Country Side of the Normandy campaign it added something that most games didn't separation from each unique Army Macy a crossover like with the Normandy British paratroop but you could easily see that working in the real world we knew the game wasn't 100% historically accurate but it's still just felt right

[@chewcacachewpipi8879]

Idiots just like to grasp at straws, this is especially true when you show them the fact that this game advertised itself as being historically accurate.

[@Topinamburenjoyer]

Grind is so much shorter? Bloody hell, I can't even. On every tier, you are forced to unlock a certain number of levels. 9 freakin levels on tier I, 7 levels on tier II, 6 levels on III, 6 levels on IV and then a few more to get to the top weapon or vehicle. In tiers I to IV it is already 28 levels! Stalingrad campaign had 30 levels, and on level 7 you already had the MG34! Now you will have to go through 9+7 levels to unlock this gun. Btw "the grind" is a term used by the people that have the objective to unlock everything and it becomes more important than having fun. What does exp matter when you are having fun with the gear you like to play with? I love a simple sniping with Kar98k or riding with a quick firing BT-7 in Moscow. There is no such thing as some compulsory "grind", for goodness sake. But I know you are talking about the amount of exp to unlock new things so I can look at it from mathematical perspective - and as I said, there are still minimum unlock numbers that make "the grind" just as it was before (for those who logged into Enlisted in order to "grind").

[@bingolos9063]

The only redeeming quality about the update is the tech tree. But if you find T34 1941 vs Tiger 2 fun then you do you

[@danthemusclefiber]

I think the tier III problem is that they either dominate, or get annihilated because a 2-tier difference between teams is huge. Maybe the system should instead be 1-2, 3-4, and have BR 5 on its own. As far as map changes are concerned, I find that one of the tough parts of dealing with the lack of map choice is that learning each map is a process that takes a solid amount of time and plays, and now that's being at least doubled with merging 2 campaigns for any specific faction/BR. I think a potential solution here would be to have a single-player, free roam game mode where you can play any map + game mode of your choice, with no time limits, no enemies, and optional gray zones, just to get a feel of where objectives, vehicles, etc. are located and which routes are good to take. Giving players a stress-free opportunity to explore the maps could go a long way in dealing with this particular complaint.

[@WsuxYT]

The 1-2 and 3-4 and 5 Its a really good idea. In my case a lot of my stuff is tier 4 because of Berlín first 10 level campaign ended being tier 4 in the merge. But Damm some stuff of tier 5 is so over kill before the merge this level 10 stuff is not equal to level 30 stuff un Berlin that now is tier 5 and fights with my things. I mean try my best and win sometimes but a SVT 40 is so far from FG42 2 or Stg - 44...

[@allamericantrolling]

I really want the campaign back I hate this random map rotation :/

[@KingDarkOne1996]

Apart from not being able to pick the maps I would play. So far the update is looking really good. They still have a bit to do. Let’s hope in future updates it’s sorted out. I would really love to see some better controls for the game. Or maybe mouse and keyboard support on ps5. Don’t know if Xbox has it or not. Still happy I play enlisted. And can not wait to see what’s next.

[@srenherskind2093]

I think the merge has brought alot of good things to this game like the perk system. But i really didnt see a problem with the old campaign system. I have experienced some things i dont like with the new Merge. fx that the british is in the USA faction and that the italiens is in the GERMAN Faction. I have also lost alot of my cosmetics that i bought before the merge this is just dumb. I think it could be a good idea to let the players wote for the nexts map they were going to play after a battle like in Hell Let Losse. That would be great

[@mrsanatra1]

I uninstalled the game. Its trash now, the merger broke everything. I cant pick campaigns, i lost attire and dint get the cards back for it, every match is one sided if you play allies, people back out more often, and many other issues. The ONLY ones ive seen praise this update are reddit & youtubers shills who got us into this mess in the first place smh

[@yungboi7500]

The grind has gotten even worse due to the xp gain, when i finished a game top scoring with over 100 infantry kills with 4 vichical kills and barely moved a xp bare for a weapon i am researching

[@swamp-fox81]

I'm just upset they removed separate campaigns that was my favorite part because it may have not been fair but it was more realistic I'm a realism guy

[@connorjordanng8898]

I hope Tier 3 will get its own cues in the future. Other than that, the tech tree really helped me grind through Japan faster than originally in the Old Pacific campaign.

[@sturmtruppen-qt1wf]

4:37 right when you said "no" I got an Enlisted ad, I'm dead serious lmao

[@boredwithnothingtodo]

I LOVED Stalingrad but now playing with my Tier 3 Stalingrad squads is a gamble of playing Berlin, Moscow or Stalingrad. My KV-1 has no chance of competing with Tigers and even if i get into a Stalingrad match i get shredded by Panzerfausts and Panzer 4 H's or Panthers

[@anonymouswanderer7257]

agreed, i spawn as tier v germans in Stalingrad quite often and usually can go a whole round in my Panther G without dying AND win the game at that.

[@boredwithnothingtodo]

@@anonymouswanderer7257 It,s impossible to do anything, yeah. It,s not your fault but Gaijins.

[@Noise_Collector]

I’ve only been playing for roughly a year at this point, and i’m kind of torn at the moment. I’m not in any forums or keeping up with updates, so taking a month or two break from the game and coming back to it yesterday being updated, i was a little shocked. Gameplay and movement seemed off to me, but i’m wondering if that was just from being less familiar after such a long time away. I was super super confused with why i all of a sudden had 10+ squads across each army, and why some had skill points when i’d never used the squad before, i think i get it now though. I’m much happier with the weapon grind and switching to silver for currency, things actually feel obtainable and it doesn’t feel like using it is going to mean weeks of grinding to replace it. It was confusing and overwhelming at first, but after playing a few matches im starting to understand how research works and what values to be looking out for, but it feels way messier in comparison. Far more doable, but way messier and seemingly harder to keep track of (squad wise at least) at the moment. The major upside i see to the merge for myself though, i’ll actually end up playing different armies. Before the merge it was so hard for me to switch campaigns and play as a different army. I had gotten so far in Normandy and was focussed on grinding and unlocking so much stuff specifically in that campaign that i’d neglect the others, and in doing so miss out on leagues of content the game has to offer. Now with the merge, in only 6 or so hours of game time i feel like i’ve only been seeing unfamiliar maps and i’ve actually branched out into playing as the Germans and Russians because it feels like i’m actually capable of making progress with them instead of starting from square one every time i want to switch my campaign up. I really wanted to dislike this update when i started playing again yesterday, but it definitely seems like it’s gonna end up growing on me. I would like to know if there’s still the same problem with bots that there was before, because i’ve played 2 or 3 matches now where it seems like the opposing team is full of bots that’ll run out in the open, face the wrong way and pop a shot off, i’ll fire at em and miss, they’ll crouch or go prone, and then take another 5 seconds to get another shot off while i’m standing still. Would it relate to your battle rating? If i’m playing with a super low BR am i gonna find more bots? If that’s the case i suppose i get it and it’s whatever, but it’d really be nice to find lobbies with less of that happening

[@mesrszmit6295]

Game is gone for me. The whole point of the game was immersion paired with a fast pace, now it's gone both immersion (tiger 2 in Stalingrad WTF), and fast pace (idk why it's just slow for some reason now) I wanted to comeback to it after one year and i met this. Goodbye Enlisted, it was fun.

[@yagihige9412]

My only complain is that they didn't separate Italy from Germany and Britan from US. About the rest, if you equip accordingly to the tier you want and don't make the mistake of equipping your tankers with tier V SMGs on your tier I tank, it works fine.

[@yagihige9412]

Actually, not a complain but another thing i'd want them to add now that they emphasized tiers is to be able to matchmake with more than 1 preset per faction.

[@arandomuser3178]

Apart from not being able to play the game and have fun the update is pretty good

[@ion_tiriac]

My main issue is not being able to choose maps, I get the fact they did the merge to bring players to all the maps but at least allow me to cathegorise the old campaign maps so that I dont spend 20 years to get one stalingrad map instead of berlin. Other than that, the Tier 3 and Italians in Stalingrad/brits in japan I am very pleased by the update, the grind is much easier, Much much easier than before, which I love, but anyways, its overall good.

[@matson2110]

Fr what am i supposed to do when i want to play normandy but i cant

[@privateryan1944]

Still does not fix the Tier 3 issue, but the merge is still very good otherwise!

[@AC-tn3pj]

Well dude, with all the respect from my heart. YOU are wrong. we all have different resons why we chosen that game. It was BEAUTIFULLY historical accurate. Also the Squad format is unique, it's kinda like the classic COMMANDOS with a lot from the original Battlefield 1942 spirit. YES, it dissapoints me. And yes, i dont want Volkstrumm in Moscu or Tunsia. It's ruined for many of us. The money was the reason. I respect the fact that you preffer other topics than historical accuracy. I used to love how every division and soldier had an unique path with their campaign, it was even immersive. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER.. EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT REASONS TO LIKE A GAME. SO NO, you cant make such an absolutist statement, gaiging may be asking you to save their asses. but dude, we just hate this, those who love history.

[@deadinside1921]

He can, he did and for these games, balance has to always be the priority over historical accuracy. Its the same for WT, it has gotten so much worse bc retarded people keep pushing so called historically accurate changes that completely ruin the balance of the game.

[@chewcacachewpipi8879]

@@deadinside1921 Historical accuracy didnt ruin the balance of the game. If anything, deviating from that did. Game was balanced despite H.A. during cbt

[@deadinside1921]

@@chewcacachewpipi8879 for sure new players spawning with rank 1 guns up against stgs and full auto rifles was very balanced and very fun for people trying to get into the game:D

[@chewcacachewpipi8879]

@@deadinside1921 What stgs, pal? And if you think it’s balanced with the new BR system then you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about lol.

[@deadinside1921]

@@chewcacachewpipi8879 much better than it used to be, that seems to be the general consensus amongst non larpers

[@Anymin]

I almost never get Moscow maps when queuing for low tier soviets. Like i can count the Moscow maps i played in one hand, i almost forget Moscow maps is actually in the pool and think it's just Stalingrad campaign V.2

[@Topinamburenjoyer]

3:30 - no, not by definition must have been more balanced, because before, the campaigns prevented Moscow players to fight against Tigers and anything stronger than Pz IV F2 and T-34, or Tunisia players against any semi-auto snipers. There were also less chances of fighting against the strongest possible vehicles because not everyone unlocked everything. Now, the tier system compresses strong an weak vehicles, causing extreme combat effectiveness differences that were literally not possible before the campaigns have been merged. There were no Shermans in Japan, or the Americans did not have to fight Tiger II's in Normandy (that are quite literally invincible for the Shermans xDDD)

[@oldsoul1930s]

I honestly thought the merge update would merge the maps together from each campaign. For example, the Normandy maps would merge together in one, depending how close the maps are together

[@rirtunsasgi2626]

I'm the br system needs a total rework, I'm seeing new players dumped into br5 getting destroying by tiger 2s. this is directly harming the future of the game.

[@tomcat6863]

I only have a few issues with the merge update 1: Tier 3 was in a sense not going to be played right out of the gate which is unfortunate. 2: Silver rewards are too low but maybe that’s just me and I’m missing something. To add a little context to the silver I did save up but life got and arma got in the way so only got roughly 500k silver. Just the rewards feel to low for me. Then tier 3 needs to be only one higher and one lower to me it feels like it stomps tier 1 and get stomps by tier 5, but because of maps it might not be viable atm Edit: I forgot to add that American tanks that have the long 76 you can beat the King Tigers with the only struggle being the H version. The P version you can pen frontally in the turret but the H you have to capola it

[@johnradey4362]

Finally someone agrees with me.

[@NightlyWatch]

I liked how all of the different levels of experience was smashed together, because it makes pushthrough maps so fucking fun, people are working together because they HAVE TO, instead of it being a moshfest

[@VexTheLatios]

Honestly, this update has been amazingly fun in my opinion. My friends and I have been having fun able to play matches without paratrooper flamethrower Germans immediately dropping onto points. My only nit-pick is tier 3. I think the matchmaking should be tier 1-2, tier 3-4, and then tier 5 as a separate que.

[@appllwithmemes]

No it would be better to either add tier 6 and go 123 456 (moving some guns upwards to fill tier 6 rather than necessarily adding more) or do a +/- 1 br system

[@VexTheLatios]

​@@appllwithmemes the problem is, the majority of tier 5 equipment is already prototype, theoretical or fielded in only small amounts. I don't want to build historically accurate squads, but then have to fight stuff they never fought just because the matchmaking queue system is bad. 1-2 keeps it to early war without all the tier 1 and 2s getting stomped by tier 3 equipment, 3-4 let's people actually play with and use the standard issue mid-late war gear without having to fight things that were barely present (or not at all) in the war, and tier 5 is just the no-holds-barred-theoretical-weapon madness that it already is.

[@appllwithmemes]

I can't think of a single weapon in any tier 5 that didn't have at least 1000 copies off the top of my head. And putting tier 5 alone would become extremely stale, as it's really just the best players in enlisted, and that would turn things into what is basically a Call of Duty situation where everyone does everything they can to win games, no matter what it is. Adding an extra tier with a three and three format, OR doing +/- 1 br is both balanced and makes historical sense looking at the weapons in tier 3. Most of the tier 3 weapons are just weapons that were used through the entirety of the war, but at the same time take intense skill to show up guns like the drum thompson, m2 carbine, AS44, FGs or StGs. The solution is not trying to generalize everything by tier, because, for instance, guns like the FNAB 43, in low tiers, are not at all early war weapons. So you can't generalize tiers by historical accuracy. Accuracy comes second, and generalizing by accuracy does not work with the tech tree's current state.

[@VexTheLatios]

@@appllwithmemes Almost all of the Soviet end tree is low production # or prototype rifles. The AS-44? Which never went anywhere cause the designer died before production or adoption, then Papa Kalash came and made the AK-47. The RD-44? A weapon that was put into trials and only became the RPD over a year after WW2? The AVT which was only in production for one year, in which soldiers were literally not allowed to use the auto-fire mode? The M2 Carbine which was a test to see how the M1 Carbine would handle full auto and then was never properly adopted. Really, the only actually commonly used end-game stuff is the german stuff, plus 1 or two things in the other trees. So no, let the iconic war stuff like Garands, Thompsons, MP-40s, MG-42s, Gewers, SVTs, PPSh-41s (without the barely used drum mag that was notorious for jamming), tanks that can actually engage each other and such actually have fun without being thrown into the storm of Br 5.

[@mansgotplans]

please make a video explaining the tech tree piece by piece because i literally cannot comprehend it without a video

[@MajorMcDonalds]

Already have a video on it on my channel, made a few weeks ago!

[@Ddidjdkd]

I think that Britain and Italy cant have their own faction right now, the player count is just not high enough and their will be ghost lobbies. Same thing with battle rating 3 getting its own lobby. Also, ive seen tons of people complaining about how no new factions have been added, such as france, ect. But that just isnt possible. Germany is already fighting both americans and russians, so in theory that means they have 4 queues, but now they will be fighting even more factions? Again, more empty german lobbies. And everyone keeps complaining about those things, but nobody is talking about how we are finally getting new maps, and the reduced number of bots. The community is just never happy with anything

[@DukeofDenmark2]

I JUST WANNA PLAY BERLIN!

[@ReykapYT]

To be honest this update killed the game for me and my group. It just isn't fun. I like the new trees, but Ive always hated playing Berlin & Normandy. The system is flawed. I like all of the other maps and REALLY enjoy the pacific front but havent played ONE game of it unless I drop my BR to 2-3. Why did I grind Pacific and fall in love with it? Idk at this point because all I get to fight against now are theatres Ive never enjoyed. You might say its just an easy solution just drop your BR rating down if you want to play on the maps you want to play on... well what happens when I complete all my tech? Should I just sit in low tier all my life to get the maps and not play with the new and exciting stuff? I know that campaigns locked vehicles and whatnot to theatres. But if we're going to throw a massive update and then say "Hey btw, you aren't gonna be able to use newer merged content because that BR is too high for that map". Enlisted is a historically BASED game. I want to drive a Tiger in the Moscow campaign or a 105 Sherman through the Pacific. Better yet get maps that I like to play on. The game was fun when there wasn't the balanced matchmaking. This type of MM is what killed Call of Duty. The reason WT has it because it makes sense in terms of tanks from a broader perspective from WWII to present. Fighting uphill is apart of the game. Finding those cool guns or getting to hop in a tank you dream of getting one day was special. Now its really just bland. Granted it saves newer players from getting stomped but really takes away the edge and intensity of a game. I can remember me and my friends beat a stacked team of top tier players with bolts and it had never felt better. I don't want my games to all become fests. I dont want my games to be a second job.

[@zaneerich4433]

I understand every argument that you're making and I do agree that overall the merge has done a lot of good for the game, however, in some regards I also respectfully disagree with some of what you said. I have to admit that I think part of the joy of the different campaigns was getting to fight within the different settings, and honestly I'm not really too sure that "unlucky" is a good way to describe it. If you play Tier V as the Americans, you HAVE to play Normandy as of this moment. When they add in Ardennes, I'm not sure what the chances will be of getting queued into it - I personally really like Normandy, but I'd like to be able to play Tier V on say, Tunisia or the Pacific as well - I understand Japan doesn't have any Tier V equipment yet though so hopefully in the future it will be possible, but for Tunisia I'm not sure that it ever will be. I do however agree with you in the fact that the game is yes, historically "based" not historically "accurate," otherwise it would be a nightmare of unbalance and all sorts of other problems. I was just hoping for more...well variety I guess. In time the situation will be rectified I'm sure. The other problem I think goes beyond the scope of Tier III BR, more or less I think that the Tier IV and V matches just are not very fun. Most of the time from my matchmaking experience, it seems like when there was no BR, it was just fine, because it always seemed like there was only half of the players in a lobby at most rocking the high tier gear, whereas now it's pretty much the whole lobby of people. Sure it's more balanced, but I think the quality of the matches have just gone wayyyy down. Matches are generally way shorter, and if they aren't it's usually due to the fact my team is the one getting wrecked on the attack, or we're absolutely crushing the enemies while we're on the defense for one thing. For another, the amount of kills per match is also way less for almost everyone in the lobby partly because of the shorter match time, but also because of the nature of the Tier V experience I guess. I understand someone's gonna go "well, it's Tier V for a reason...maybe just get good," but I don't think that's the issue. It's more down to the fact that EVERYONE has this super powerful gear, and it's really frustrating. The balance I think used to be that yes, the StG 44 exists and is really great, but chances are not many guys are using it on the Battlefield, and the bolt action rifle you have as a lower level player can kill them in one shot; plus, the Assaulter Squads who get them are limited to like 2 squads of the 4 a base player would get without spending gold, and they have less troops per squad than any rifleman squad in the whole game at max level / upgrades. Now however, you can spam as many assaulter squads as you damn well please. Try running a rifleman setup against that with some Tier III and IV equipment mixed in (a BAR here and there, or maybe you have an assaulter with an M1 Thompson as squad lead for your rifleman, something like that...) and you're odds are not very good. Finally, that brings me to my last point. if you even have ONE piece of Tier V equipment (say you grinded for the M2 Carbine but all other ranks of the Tech tree are at 0) and you have that on ONE soldier out however many squads you bring into battle, you instantly are placed in Tier V. I could understand if say, over 50% of my equipment I bring into battle constituted that effect, but it doesn't lol. So if you want to have a variety of squads (say, a Tier I, III, and V), those two other lower tier squads are going to be pointless to bring, so you might as well not even use any Tier V equipment until you can outfit your entire lineup with the best of the best gear, instead of one solider, or even one squad for that matter. That doesn't seem very fair or balanced to me. It just means less variety, and more crappy matches the higher tier you go. Now going high tier feels less like a reward for your hard work to get there and more of like a dumpster fire.

[@Halvatore]

my biggest problem with the current version is the poor sQUAD organisation, which should still be a big part of the game. for example, where are my good engineers with the high perks, where are my 3-4 special weapons, etc. i think this organisation system still needs a big overhaul

[@GLJ94]

As a player who had been a new veteran before the merge, it's allowed me to sit high in most tier 2 lobbies and get used to the merge. Now im looking to start into the other factions.

[@galm14ever]

Same song and dance as warthunder, compress everything as much as possible so wait times are 3 seconds faster while slowly ruining the game and losing focus on gameplay improvements. We'll see if they can do something different this go around.

[@filiparvidsson8291]

If it was historikly accurate it would be a movie

[@olekzajac5948]

4:53 It is possible to make the game both immersive and balanced - bring back the map-based matchmaking from the 1st dev server while retaining the current, tier-based one. This way the game would be both immersive (no Italians in Berlin or Jumbo in Pacific) and balanced (no battles where players with just bolt action rifles meet players with assault rifles). And the current matchmaking has to be redesigned anyways, it should be so that every tier can be either uptiered or downtiered by one, nit that early-war, late-war and tier III mess that we have now.

[@JuEdVirtudazo]

So I have complained about the merge before about how skilled the players I was getting paired up with but I've noticed I've been getting better, it's starting to get fun again and I haven't noticed a difference between choosing maps because I always get Normandy maps, I also still have complaints about the merge with the tech tree since I now have stuff that I already had and stuff that I didn't have before now I'm researching the biker just to get the bazooka, overall I'm getting used to it.

[@greenscreen1248]

I'll be honest I don't like the new menus or the fact I can't choose specific battles I have to choose by faction or the fact they changed the currency or pretty much anything else about the update

[@Josh93B93]

While I understand the tier system being implemented, and could see it as an improvement, it should have been an update to seperate campaigns, I'm okay with getting into sweaty matches with other veterans, but merging campaigns left me stuck for 6 hours trying to get into a match in the pacific or tunisia, all of my marines and dessert rats kept landing on the normandy coast to be greeted by king tigers, I used to hold this game high due to its attention to detail and historical accuracy, and yeah, there were no king tigers at normandy, nor were there marine raiders, or italian infantry, so on and so forth, after hours of the monotony I uninstalled and removed the game, i miss how it used to be, while I can understand why some of the changes were necessary, merging campaigns made this glorified BFV but with AI squads, janky controls and worse graphics, I hope they reintroduce campaigns to maintain historical accuracy, but without that this game is broken to me.

[@maciejzdeba3786]

I think the map problem can be easily fixed by making a queue of maps you've already played (let's say 3) so you won't get them in another match and it can be implemented for campaigns in that matter

[@FlyEaglesFly101]

The most cursed thing is seeing an Owen gun in Normandy. Hopefully if Ty ey have the British be a faction they have the Australians with them too.

[@Vurrin]

What's funniest is that the fg42 is mounted on regular infantrymen, not on paratroopers.

[@yashkasheriff9325]

What I'm hoping for as a player currently working my way up USA Rank IV is that we'll get some M36 tank destroyers with the Battle of the Bulge, as several regiments were deployed, and we can get it and have a vehicle with the 90mm Gun M3 sooner than we could if we just hyperfixated on the Pershing, which would only be available for a Rhineland campaign.

[@ramondaserbica8060]

The games are only full if you are playing Germans, I'm still getting bots while playing as Soviets. I'm also getting Stalingrad maps almost always, sometimes Berlin, and Moscow rarely, both in BR 2 and BR 5. Campaigns seem less grindy, but you can't do much with the amount of silver you get per game. The matchmaking needs fixing, I ended up in the BR 5 game with my BR 2 squads quite a few times. I really wouldn't mind waiting longer for a game, but getting into a full game and correct BR.

[@javibu1691]

One change I think could be nice would be if instead of choosing maps based on BR, they were chosen based on the wearpons themselves, similar to the map preferences they did before but only for very specific cases and without locking late war maps for earlier equipment. For example, some weapons like the MP 3008, the M1918 BAR or the Bren Mk1 could be put into folders with weapons of similar power so that if you just want to play that BR you can choose the default option but if you want to play low BR and only Berlin you choose the MP 3008. The same could be done with some tanks and planes. This would make the game a bit more historical, while also clearing some of the repetitive weapons from the tech tree and alowing you to play low BR in late war maps, which gives new players more map variety. You could still choose to play early war maps by choosing specific weapons, like the M1918 over the M1918A1 or the MP 38 over the MP 40. It might be way too complicated but I think it could work.

[@spencersecrest6001]

Or just stop crying and play the game

[@StoneGuy-p3i]

Before the merge every lobby I join was chill and calm, but after every lobby I join is full of sweats, for some reason.

[@soulwolf1756]

You cant unlock what you want you have to research every specific skill tree the grind is way longer then it was before

[@poggingmilk9452]

Yo didnt know them German Soldiers used Mewing as their Wunderwaffe

[@Ifuggedyasister]

I just miss being able to pick what campaign I wanted to play. This new random shit is obnoxious

[@a.t6066]

They just need to add a any/early/mid/late war preference button that tries to put you into those maps if theres space.

[@alanvonify]

Started a game with t1 german troops ended up in Berlin fighting t5 soviet. So still needs a bit of work.

[@appllwithmemes]

I still am adamant about bush helmets becoming a common item for appearance orders. Also now after the merge they need to readd winter camo for purchase. Plus they tossed the historical uniform selection in the can. They need the original uniform options for each campaign, rather than just giving us the berlin/normandy uniform pools

[@gameaholicse]

Great vid Major, thanks for helping us catching up!

[@charonizer9647]

Well befoe merge I was playing with Italy in desert. After the merge came I couldn't get desert matches so I uninstalled the game.

[@kikopapes8268]

Too

[@WsuxYT]

Seeing Tiger 2P in Stalingrad is insane and I suffer a lot!

[@bigchunk7246]

Absolutely mad that if you played this game before the update you get a panzer 4 J as your default vehicle going up against m13 half tracks

[@AKX-DTGRSMP]

14:00 no, he's got a point. I've been blowing up capture point in confrontation with the 75mm kwk37 while screaming at my team to capture the point while my team just sit at the previous point and won due to tickets loss. Sure I was blown up 8 times but I always just hop into another panzer. It's gotten to the point where I was shooting from the enemy sides of spawn.

[@fender7695]

No. Campaigns is the BIGGEST selling point. I haven’t played and it’s not negotiable for me.

[@Topinamburenjoyer]

New players (that the update is SO FAIR towards) reaching tier III be like" Why is a Tiger II (P) in Stalingrad! And why the same guy just spawned another time in the Tiger II (H)?! Ther's just one squad that uses Tiger II in the game right? Right???"

[@SpeedBird878]

The matching-making I'd say is the biggest problem in the game right now. Tier I, III, IV are basically useless. It should be how it's done in war thunder with -/+ 1 BR.

[@GGf-b4j]

Tier 3 has the funnest guns in game (in my opinion) it is sad I can’t use them in a “fair” match

[@chiefrobertz42069]

I've been loving custom games so far, Removing faction restrictions and just vibing with my neighbors, With 6 or more people you still get full xp and such, Plus you get to pick maps and gamemodes you normally don't see. Make some friends guys and have fun!

[@christianrowbotham7386]

I only wish that you could select your campaign of preference. Sometimes I just wanna play pacific maps

[@TheTactical0]

Right bow all those players who pay to win or had max upgrades on everything and use air bombers just keep spamming the bombs and literally just farming kills while doing nothing And the objective I can't even get close to the damn objective without being bombed or exploded every 2 second in the open the game is unplayable at all

[@JAMAL-gf2fs]

Axis tier 5 here…. I’ve had some stomping but gave some stomping. But I have never had more games that end in the middle objective (evenly matched). And games that are won with only 200 tickets left.

[@Valentino_crown]

Outside of the t3 matchmaking and not being able to pick the campaign maps I like, I’m completely fine with the update

[@charlesadriancruz351]

King Tigers in Stalingrad makes it feel like the Germans held until 1945 XD

[@Fizruk-pw3nx]

I just want to play battle of Moscow shit was fun maybe they could just use the same maps but only que up players from the same br

[@VKpoquipin]

I have started playing enlisted 2 years ago. On the day that i beggined to play, i have noticed something: the controls of console (i play on ps4) is a SHIT and other thing: the graphics are like graphics of ps2, but i still keeped to play it, because i liked it MUCH, because of just 1 THING the game was historically "accurate" i kniw that if the game was absolutely accurste would be a shit play with some factions, like germans on normandy and japans in pacific, but always the system of campaign gived so much realism to the battle, you could feel that you was a soldier on the battlefield. Now is just a shit play this game, look by my way: i am a guy that have BFV (a game with much more good graphics, much more good controls), but i always liked enlisted very more, because i really think that is difficult see a american using a type 100 on the europe. Now i need to say that BFV are more realistic than the enlisted. I really CANT PLAY with a german berlin squad attacking stalingrad.

[@Perseus7567]

Fun fact: I've calculated It'll take me 27 days of non-stop playing (about 4,000 games) to complete my Germany research tree, and it's over half-way done already. Sad. Progression has been improved for everyone, except Custom Matches players who, once again, have been completely neglected by Darkflow, and this merge only seemingly made it worse... I cry every time. I don't have any opinions on the campaign merging myself; I don't play online enough to care much (only for the stupid month-long FOMO events, if I can be bothered), but for me, personally, as a Custom Games main, this update has once again dashed my hopes. Weird how they neglect it so, considering it's now much better as a feature after the merge; with the ability to select maps and teams etc that you can't do normally now... but still when there's something good, they push it down with someone bad.

[@honeybadgerfacts3871]

Honestly, the update is really bad. It's not good for new players. 5 people whom I tried to get the game have all quit and gone for something else. It really sucks because one of them was my God son and was really excited for this. There is no balance. Fyi, I'm still going up against newbies. Was on alligator Creek as a level IV and was going up against level I and II. If they gave the players a selection of which maps they could play in, also giving a hand select filter for which tier I want to play against, and filled in empty servers with bots again. It allows more players to grind what they want, and enjoy the maps they like, while not getting massacred or, maybe they like the challenge or meme value of going up against a Tiger II with a Stewart Flamethrower. All in all, just give they players more options to enjoy the game.

[@comanderjimmy4198]

2 more things that make me kinda mad 1. i bought the full acess pass and now they take away my option to play 5 squads without buying premium (in my opinion there should be 5 to 7 squads but have them limited at 1 per type and premium acounts would have no limits) 2.THEY TOOK AWAY MY JUMBO I HAD IT UNLOCKED BUT THE SQUAD THAT IT USE TO BE ON NO LONGER EXISTS

[@isaacrhodes4617]

I will miss campaigns the most, but hard to stay away from the gameplay loop even still. Hopefully Darkflow gives us the White Sea maps one day. That was a campaign in the files at one point and a Arctic circle Eastern Front campaign just sounds so interesting!

[@fender7695]

There are no campaigns. So it will be Italians dropping into Norway….the update is not good. For any player of a year or more it has destroyed almost any progress I thoroughly enjoyed before the update. Rip enlisted. I sincerely miss you. Now it’s call of duty

[@Johnathan-swift]

@@fender7695the update isn’t for us, it’s for future players and I rather lose some progress over the game dying because the community becomes inbred

[@Napoleon_1769]

@@fender7695the pacific is unplayable for japan sometimes with shermans instantly demolishing anything in their way

[@itsyaboililnass6606]

I think that we need to be able to buy things in the tech trees if we have unlocked the requried things in that tech line

[@Idkwhattoput151]

I agree, because I thought we could just buy them immediately, so I spent gold, and now I have half a tank line to grind