You seriously can't make it up

Not 2 months ago Mark Stone was once again put on LTIR. This time for a lacerated spleen and it came just 2 weeks before the trade deadline.. what fortune! As this allowed Vegas to go out and acquire Thomas Hertl as well as Noah Hanifin. After securing a Playoff berth, today their Dallas Stars vs Vegas Golden Knights series was set to begin and like clock work, Mark Stone came off of LTIR. Even better, William Carrier was also activated from IR. Truly, a miracle! In the last 3 years, Stone has been activated off of LTIR just days before the playoffs all 3 years. So with him getting back on the ice for the first time in 26 games, it went exactly to script. Hanifin, Stone and Hertl combine for a 4 point night. This, after just 26 seconds into the game, the Stars took a penalty. They Knights went to work and guess who? It was Mark Stone on his very first shift with the opening goal of the series! You seriously can’t make it up. The Stars fought from behind the rest of game in what was overall a fun one. I cover it all in todays NHL hockey video!

[@justininexile3445]

Once, ok. Two times... could happen. Three? In sports there is such a thing as sportmanship and fair play. Abusing a loophole for a rule that was intended to help should be frowned upon.

[@o0prodigy4110o]

His injury in 22 cost them the playoffs and DeBoer his job. 23 Cup. 24 unknown. There is NO loophole it is in the RULES and CBA. Hawks used it. Bolts used it. Vegas used it. Those are the three to win the Cup w the rule I believe. Others have used it as well. Toronto, Tampa, Colorado, and Vegas are all CURRENTLY OVER THE CAP IN THIS YEARS PLAYOFF Vegas isnt even the HIGHEST. WHO CARES!!! Tampa will probably add Sergachev at some point this playoff and the Avs could potentially add Landeskog. Toronto as well could add Murray back on and they used him all year as LTIR when he wasnt going to get surgery on his hips but Toronto wasnt going to play him. This is so old. All of next year Toronto will add LTIR contracts to build a roster as they have over 50% of their cap dedicated to just 4 fowards!!!! Let that sink in!!!

[@corymac1140]

What an idiot ☝️

[@josephstalin4906]

@@o0prodigy4110o Cheaters will always defend cheating, what a surprise!

[@thatONEmachine]

Agreed. Fuck Vegas.

[@o0prodigy4110o]

@@josephstalin4906 except it isn’t cheating!

[@dapete]

The Dallas GDT on Reddit is half Mark Stone insults like "Mark Stone drives 45 in the left lane"

[@imspeed535]

I cannot believe what I’ve just spleen dude like this is insane

[@user-iw6fq6vv2w]

Stars fan here. I just want to say thanks for covering the Stars because it feels like we get overlooked a lot of the time. You're one of my favorite hockey content creators anyway, and I get extra stoked when I see some Stars content coming from you. Im flying to Dallas tomorrow specifically to see game 2, and I am optimistic it's going to be a good bounceback game for the boys.

[@datriaxsondor590]

If Game 1 went on even 2 or 3 more minutes, it would have ended differently. Stars are one of, if not the most resilient team in the league. If Vegas drew a nightmare team to face, it was Dallas. I'm not a "Stars fan" in traditional sense, but I know the team very well from running up against them over the past 2 decades. I continually follow them as secondary interest in this league, and ya, if there's a team that can turn VGK on its head and pile drive them, it's Dallas. Have a rockin time at G2, bud. 🍻

[@user-iw6fq6vv2w]

@@datriaxsondor590 Thanks! It'll be my first time seeing a game in Dallas and my first playoff game, so I'm super excited. My family is so sick of me talking about it.

[@jd3jefferson556]

Resilient? They rolled over in Game 2. Pete Debor is just not a great coach, he's wasting the talent on that team. ​@datriaxsondor590

[@numbnutz9398]

"Two months ago he was put on LITR with a paper cut"

[@imulippo5245]

the paper was super duper strong and cut all the way to his spleen!

[@numbnutz9398]

@@imulippo5245 😄

[@r00g70]

The Las Vegas Medical Miracles

[@brady5986]

Bubba shut up

[@creep_n]

Medical Miracles going back to back!

[@TravisBeaves]

lol this is amazing

[@carlsoto1747]

Once is happenstance, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern

[@noneofyourbusiness6496]

4th time will be Legendary, can’t wait for next year for the medical miracle to happen once again 😎

[@csharp48]

He returned before the end of the season 3 years ago and played 9 games like dog shit cause he was clearly still VERY injured. 1 goal and 1 assist.

[@rapta_gg8059]

Vegas Golden Spleens

[@creep_n]

You're goddamn right, Golden Spleens going back to back cups!

[@phillip8132]

The nhl is complicit in this too. They’ve allowed this to happen because Vegas as a market is so important to them.

[@ryans413]

Time to start requesting medical records im serious

[@eggsaladactyl]

The Lightning did this before. Has everyone forgotten or are yall willing to admit you ignore it because you want to dislike Vegas so much?

[@ryans413]

@@eggsaladactyl no I remember I’m just saying time to start requesting medical records for all these teams that just happen to have injured players at the same time every year.

[@csharp48]

And who runs the NHL? Oh right, the 32 owners.

[@Iraqveteran99]

@@eggsaladactyl i don't like the lightning either so.............. Whats your point?

[@jimc.goodfellas226]

Frickin' Stone man

[@zppv5981]

Man Stars fans attending games should be coming up with exposing/ creative chants towards Vegas, Stone, NHL, Bettman all involving LTIR. And any team they face if they make it past this round

[@michalomelka3408]

that would be friendly fire, because their team did absolutely the same thing with Dadonov this year

[@blastomanto5687]

@@michalomelka3408 Dadonov was activated during the regular season and actually played the last game of the season so you’re wrong again another clueless Vegas fan.

[@dudemanawesome1079]

where's - your - spleen - at

[@michaelpoteet4171]

​@@dudemanawesome1079where's your playoff wins and cups at.

[@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija]

@@michaelpoteet4171LTIR cup lol

[@rai357]

Per CapFriendly: The Toronto Maple Leafs and Tampa Bay Lightning are both above Vegas in LTIR money used with the Colorado Avalanche not that far behind. Two of those teams listed are also recent cup winners with the other being well...the Maple Leafs. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at your teams management for not making use of every resource available. Vegas isn't the first team to make use of LTIR spending and they won't be the last.

[@smyelin1328]

Say it louder for the people in the back!!!

[@mattsewich2651]

Remember how the Wild and others were penalized for having players sign contracts that were within the rules at the time?

[@Ranalla651]

The wild have been getting the short end of stick

[@dallasburgess5329]

No, but I remember Vancouver and Jersey, ...with Jersey's penalty being reduced later, but Van still having to eat it.

[@UnpredictableMoose724]

Found your channel and watched a couple of vids and love them. Keep up the good work man I'm going to keep watching

[@jtmick21]

“Place your bets, yessss place your bets!”

[@pato655]

Do not forget about the two teams in the playoffs with higher cap totals than Vegas. Toronto at $97,645,821 and Tampa Bay at $93,776,877. Vegas at $92,239,581. Colorado at $90,957,006. Vegas is not the only team using LTIR.

[@ultimetacooler]

Difference with the Leafs is that none of those injured players magically returned for game 1 and they didn’t have those guys conveniently put on LTIR in time to make big deadline acquisitions.

[@alohastate8256]

@pato655 No need to defend what VGK is doing. What they are doing is 100% within the rules. All these crying fans that say it's cheating is just jelly of VGKs success. Our GM is by far the best (although ruthless) in the league. I wouldn't want to have it any other way.

[@WingsOfAnemia]

The difference is none of those players are playing. Tampa has $16.15m of LTIR from inactive players & the leafs have $14.4 & colorado has $9m. Vegas uses LTIR to go over the cap, then activates them on game 1. There's a huge difference

[@alohastate8256]

@@WingsOfAnemia Are they doing anything against the rules? NOPE! Questionable timing? Yeah maybe, but they are not breaking a single rule.

[@WingsOfAnemia]

@@alohastate8256 Of course they're not currently breaking the rules, which is exactly the issue. The timing is highly questionable since this is the 3rd time in a row Stone has come off of LTIR for the playoffs. It's anything but questionable. The good news is this will definitely change in the next CBA since this has gotten a lot of attention

[@deserttrailscout]

The boos make it even more hilarious because the crowd went completely silent once the time ran out in the 3rd hahaha

[@alohastate8256]

I also think the boos fueled Stone. He scored in less than a minute into the game LOL. I hope the boos keep coming in game 2.

[@liljoe31]

After the Marchy goal you could hear a pin drop

[@53block92]

Give Dallas fans time, they will eventually start booing their own team again.

[@cdanielh128]

@@53block92 Yeah because we have a market on that one.

[@RedPillBased]

Supporting trash.

[@justjohnny420]

My favorite thing about this whole ordeal is the lineup they iced last night wouldve been an entire 750k over the cap, which isnt even min salary for a player 😂 Internet treating it like they're millions above the cap

[@FFreshpots]

It's not about the roster on the ice. That's not how the cap works. You really don't think it's an advantage to have an extra $10 million worth of players that can slot in if needed?

[@WingsOfAnemia]

You clearly don't understand how the cap works if that's your take. Having a $5.2m defenceman waiting to be slotted in is a huge advantage

[@liljoe31]

Johnny stop discussing facts! There are men's FEELINGS involved here and they are very upset about all this!

[@yelling3874]

Look, I'm not disputing that Mark Stone is injured. I just think it's insane that he'd be ready just about exactly for the playoffs after being on LTIR three years in a row. There's no way that Vegas hasn't sneaked something in there, whether that's keeping him off the ice a little longer than necessary for cap reasons, or sending him out before he's fully healed. Neither of those is acceptable. They're allowed to use LTIR the same as everyone else, and they should have to scramble for it sometimes, just like everyone else.

[@borrow4654]

Cant play game 82 but can play game 1 in the playoffs 3 days later. Total bulshit

[@GoStahhs]

The Spleen Queen

[@thismasonkidd]

Have fun in vegas 😂

[@IVEdge]

I have to cheer for Dallas even as a Wild fan because they’re one of the top teams and they aren’t over the cap 😅

[@KohaiJr]

Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with an Wild fan. 🤝

[@alohastate8256]

If you like cheering for the losing team...have at it🤣

[@borrow4654]

​@@alohastate8256better than cheer for this shit fucking vegas team. You have to either be born in nevada or be a total asshole to support this

[@datriaxsondor590]

​ @alohastate8256 Because Vegas is a "winning" team, scraping into the playoffs by the skin of their butt cheeks, after winning the cup the year prior? It's incredible how little people think, before they put out their 'sick burn' in comments like this. I assume you're one of those idiots that think a 4-3 squeeker is "getting owned", and "the series is over".

[@dhog3153]

Dude, I absolutely agree most golden knight fans just talk trash for a team that has had everything they have straight handed to them, its hilarious. ​@datriaxsondor590

[@neverheardofyou]

Basically they're having Hanifin and Hertl for free. Image what you could get to Colorado lineup with that "extra cap space" + Landeskog playing

[@kylebaryonyx9478]

I get that it's all legal. But it's super unsportsmanlike to use IR to stack your roster like that. I don't know if it's because of the ownership or the fact that they aren't a very old team, but they don't seem to have the same respect for other teams that the rest of the league does

[@datriaxsondor590]

It is all legal, and it is very unsportsmanlike, but sportsmanship doesn't show up on the cup. Only the names of the winners. If you want to blame anyone for this, blame the league and everyone involved in negotiating the CBA. They are the ones that continually turn a blind eye to this loophole. Or, maybe it's intentional. Who really knows?

[@MindzEnt]

Fuck respect, we're going for the back 2 back son!

[@jd3jefferson556]

Cry harder. "It's legal but not very good sportsmanship." Is such a soft and embarrassing take to have. You wish your team did it. They snuck in as an 8 seed, not ideal

[@liljoe31]

Ohh it's a respect thing now...interesting

[@artlyc]

Next year Stone will be out in Feb with a sprained pinky on LTIR and magically reappear again in the round 1 of the playoffs. What a joke the league isn't doing anything with it.

[@ConReese]

Because it's mostly American teams doing it. I think toronto is bad for it this year but the league doesn't have to worry about them winning the cup anyways. I'm pretty sure if montreal or edmonton did it the rules would change

[@Dre0044]

Imagine if Sergachev was able to come back during the playoffs lol

[@davidshort5947]

If it’s a loophole then it’s up to the board to close it.

[@brandensimmons653]

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!

[@bruceellenburg429]

Then change the rule Any team can take advantage of this

[@tfisher23]

@@bruceellenburg429Exactly

[@JAlexanderCurtis]

I mean Tampa does the same thing and won two cups with it.

[@trevorconnatser6161]

@@JAlexanderCurtiseveryone talks about Tampa but we wanted the rule changed when the Blackhawks did it all the way back in 2015 but no one cared then 🤷‍♂️ so yall get what you deserve

[@2mnxffrddfghjbbvcdfh6644bcddcv]

Yup they can. The one that has the peso has the say-so

[@BlueFlash25]

Only thing I blame are NHL rules, not having cap for playoff should have been changed waaay back then

[@jiaan100]

Only thing you should blame

[@TheGameHuntah]

Dirty intentional move, no doubt about it, but taking advantage of a flaw in the rules. Hope Dallas win that series.

[@Spewf]

Man I'm so glad he's ok I was really worried........FTK.......

[@mdavis3]

Should do the Canes/Isles game 2 😳 Crazy win🎉

[@spelunkerd]

Somehow gotta find a way to close that loophole.

[@martinbaxa330]

Definitely not see that coming...

[@chubbydog963]

Dallas fan. Every time the bally broadcast showed Stone on the bench he was wincing in a lot of pain. He’s able to play, but he’s clearly going through something at the same time.

[@chubbydog963]

to add, in the thumbnail of this video Stone is grimacing not smiling

[@KohaiJr]

@@chubbydog963 He's been out of play for a bit, he's probably just acclimating, but you're delusional if you think he's still "injured".

[@blastimbre]

​@@KohaiJr Vegas living rent free in your head, huh?

[@KohaiJr]

​@@blastimbre Go put yourself on IR and come back when you have a better insult.

[@KohaiJr]

@@blastimbre Go put yourself on IR and come back when you got a better insult.

[@zubiecup]

Has there ever been a more hated team? The Ducks in 07 were hated, but nowhere near this level. I mean, Vegas has definitely done out of their way to earn all the hate. I'd honestly be happy to see them go without another series win until they quit with the cap circumvention shenanigans.

[@campbellzachc]

Every team needs to follow suit. The only way anything is going to change is if this move embarrasses the NHL to its core. They have been letting it happen for years without any movement on it.

[@ssmith4893]

Go Knights Go!

[@Fatazz]

So basically he's the "Break Glass in case of Playoffs" guy.

[@michaelwasserbauer4177]

At this point I don´t even hate Vegas, I have to respect the way Vegas are finessing the league :DD

[@Cruz474]

You mean how Bettman just lets it happen?

[@53block92]

Exactly, if it's offered up, you take advantage, the option is there for anyone to use, it's not something restricted to only VGK, there are plenty of other teams that use it.

[@shawnthibodeau189]

“Ouch my spleen” -mark stone

[@richardzapata5030]

& they about to do it again tonight. ⚔️ #VGK

[@nomadicnovels]

“k mark what’ll it be this year?”

[@joeford5181]

I have never heard this boos since Dirty Dom started to breathe

[@Mrsnichols1965]

Its stuff like this that made my brother hate the VGK. I understand a bit better now.

[@craigharrison5406]

Vegas will force a rule change at this summers GM meetings. They better enjoy that loophole right now because it will be gone next year. The rule was inteded to help teams riddled with injuries down the stretch of a long NHL season. Now that luxury will be gone for everyone.

[@borrow4654]

Doubt it. GMs dont care about what fans think

[@craigharrison5406]

@@borrow4654 It's not about what fans think, it's about an even playing field for all teams. Not just the ones who have a $10M player who is willing to fake an inury and sit out the last 2 months of every season. GM's do care about their team's chances of winning.

[@borrow4654]

@@craigharrison5406 I'm definitely not arguing there. It baffles me that you dont have salary cap rules in the playoffs. Seems like a total oversight Why is there a cap in regular season...but not when it matters most? So my team gets penalized for being healthy now?

[@thismasonkidd]

Off topic but i love van halen

[@craigharrison5406]

@@thismasonkidd 🤘

[@Mason-14p]

Hertl, Hanifin, and pebble all on the board! Why

[@Farmerb0y]

Guess who back back again mr February

[@KEVIN88GT]

You can say they Stoned them in their home rink.

[@dannyjackson5356]

A lot of teams use this rule to their advantage. Vegas exploits it bc they can. Simple as that. Can’t be mad at a team for taking what they are given. Coming from a Dallas fan btw. Not worried yet. If you’ve watched Dallas over the past idk how long you should have been prepared for a game 1 loss. They played great and held back the Vegas offense quite a bit. A few bounces the other way and this would be a different story. Let’s go stars

[@briankeeley6464]

Yea, it's not cheating If the league approves the use of this strategy. Every playoff team should be doing it. That said, it's kinda sad that the NHL allows a team to rebuild itself for the playoffs. It'd be nice to see teams win the cup without using late addition mercenaries.

[@connorking3022]

A lot of our fellow stars fans are not happy about the loophole I don’t mind because I know our boys can handle it. Although Im furious about the officiating last night it was horrible.

[@TheYoRealcelly]

Let’s goooo

[@robbiekeller1353]

I’d be excited if a team would win the Stanley Cup without being over the salary cap, but the NHL has made its decision, the Stanley Cup is the award that goes to the team that cheats the salary cup the most.

[@tobiasfrost86]

Ouch i have a hangnail looks like i need to be off for 2 months to heal mark stone probually

[@echozero3316]

Las Vegas injured reserves PMO!

[@wvknn2709]

I don't think he "wasn't injured", he was I believe but the way Salary cap works in playoffs is a joke... I get that it's there to stop teams from getting pinched if injury occurs but anybody can hop on at anytime after regular season ends?

[@nathanday799]

This is truly a simple fix. Any player on LTIR at the trade deadline is ineligible to play the rest of the season and playoffs. How this isn’t the rule is astounding.

[@Gagne87Fixxer]

I hate to say this but… if Vegas can do it, so any other team.

[@john81blaze]

Exactly

[@Mason-14p]

But why would other teams do this for no reason 😂 your funny

[@borrow4654]

You cant do it if your players don't go on LTIR. Shit out of luck if your team remains healthy

[@53block92]

@@borrow4654 If your team were true champions, they will overcome and find a way to win no matter how many other players get added to the opposing team. Real champions don't make excuses, they make plays, they find ways to win regardless of the situation. VGK beat out every team they faced last season to become the NHL champs, cementing their names on the cup for all to see. How many times do you think they complained once they tore through all the other teams to become the Stanley Cup winners? Zero, none, there was no complaining as they had a parade down the Las Vegas strip, their fans cheering them on for the outstanding season they had beating the crap out of the other teams that were bickering and complaining the whole time. Just know that LTIR didn't make you team lose, the refs making bad calls didn't cause your team to lose, if your team is losing year after year then it might be because your team is full of losers. it's OK to admit it if it's the truth, not every team can be a winner.

[@borrow4654]

@@53block92 lol at everything you said. Delusional

[@SSNESS]

When is Landeskog coming back?

[@ScoobieSwisher7413]

4:45 PM

[@Kallogee]

Never unfortunately

[@Jackyjack655]

Go knights go knights in 6

[@deadboyzX8]

Yup, you nailed it stone timed a spleen laceration 2 weeks before the trade deadline. You caught us😂😂😂😂 31 of 32 teams voted to keep LTIR in its current state the off-season. Funny how you don't call out the avalanche or lightning for doing the same thing

[@Ranalla651]

If guilty was a response

[@deadboyzX8]

@@Ranalla651 22 teams used the ltir to get under the cap this season. I know I know facts are painful

[@Ranalla651]

@@deadboyzX8 Vegas has done this time and time again. They found a loophole so they are going to take full advantage of it . I mean I would expect nothing less from scums on the coasts. Their fans are just as bad. Facts are not painful, it’s painful when someone uses facts to try and prove their ridiculous point only to end up looking like a dead boyz fool

[@tysonbrooks1992]

I get to complain about it, but it’s a part of the league. Tampa did it. Chicago did it. Is anybody complaining about them right now that their cups shouldn’t count, no. Also the 21’-22’ season. Mark Stone came back during the season, still obviously injured, and still didn’t make the playoffs. To make that a point in the vid just seems nitpicking and trying to make the LTIR shenanigans seem like it’s been happening since then.

[@TheFusionmix]

As a Stars fan I'm not going to whine about Stone going out for the two months necessary for spleen removal recovery. Bro got destroyed in preseason and it never settled down. Dallas had plenty of chances to put Seguin on LTIR the last couple months with his chronic leg situation and pick up a guy since Hakanpää's been hurt all year. And they dont do it. Im not going to hate on Vegas just because they do what my team won't. that being said with the way they're beating on Harley, I wouldn't mind if Ryan Suter channels his Uncle Gary around the net like he did last year in the first round.

[@FlyingAces]

I guess honesty only takes them so far...

[@AdamXSmith]

NHL VS the Las Vegas mafia!

[@FlyingAces]

This is just..... depressing. It's so sad to see Vegas 'fans' be so okay with this manipulation. It's sad to see the league 'buying' cups for teams that circumvent the cap. What starts out as fun and exciting 82 games of good, hard, old school hockey, quickly turns into whoever wants to write the biggest check. For the Stars specifically, this was their year for an HONEST run at the Cup. For Pavs. For Faksa. For Dadonov. For Tanev. For DeBoer. For Benn. Whether you like them or not, you know that they earned their spot this postseason. And just to watch it get ripped away from them like Vegas stealing candy from a baby is so sad to see what the NHL has become. The lifelong fans tease and wonder why new fans don't stick around. I hope this helps everyone understand the why within that revolving door. #FixTheCap

[@shinyuta]

damn, you really spend all day around youtube just parroting the same things don't you lmao.

[@Taylor_Gang1]

The booos were hilarious 😂 Vegas looking like last years playoff run but even stronger 🤘🔥

[@drag0..]

VGK baby!!! ⚔️🏆b2b🏆

[@missstar219]

stars winning game 2 trust

[@lucyvanpelt6470]

Nope

[@missstar219]

@@lucyvanpelt6470 yes!

[@lucyvanpelt6470]

@@missstar219 Just like they were supposed to win game 1 right ? VGK wasn’t supposed to stand a chance especially on Stars home ice! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

[@missstar219]

@@lucyvanpelt6470 maybe if y’all didn’t have 37388 players return for game 1

[@bravexheart7]

Nobody is beating Vegas in a seven game series with that defensive core they have.. this has nothing to do with stone

[@D3sh_]

The teams can fix this loophole in 2 years with the new CBA. If they don’t, then they are saying it is okay to do and that no one can whine or complain about who does it

[@maykay9516]

The teams have already had the chance to fix it and voted against it, it’s within the rules and Is already fine

[@53block92]

It's not a loophole to be fixed, they have already voted on it... What is so hard about certain fans accepting this as a fact, yet they still to this day call it a loophole?

[@ItsNystalgic]

Betman's not gonna do shit. Vegas his is golden love child. Wish I got to sit out of work for 2 months after having my spleen removed. Makes me wonder if... oh wait he probably still has his spleen. Likely nothing wrong.

[@m_20198]

Its agitating but they are playing by the rules.

[@pablonaghtenandes6336]

Isn't this how Tampa one their 1&1/2 cups???

[@smooothyyy]

The NHL needs to do something about this loophole... such bullshit

[@53block92]

It's not a "loophole" when it's written in the rules, it's something that any/every other team can and should do if it's written in the rules. Imagine coaching a baseball game and having a "secret weapon" in the form of a relief pitcher, but instead of using your secret weapon, you just keep average Joe in the game and chance losing because you didn't want to use your secret weapon... How dumb can you be? That would be a dumb move to NOT utilize every advantage and resource you have to win if your goal each game/season was to win, you would have to be a moron to skip over something like that. Let me guess, when you get tired of using this as an excuse why VGK beat your team, you will probably go back to saying "the refs cheated". I hope it happens again next year too.

[@TopCop1982]

In perfect Vegas style: The less glamorous, less appealing, excessive, risky and “organized” influences of Vegas history, and the exploitation of certain industries. Never without its share of challenges and controversies (let’s say, dirt).

[@kevinpeters1596]

It’s Bettman’s team. What do you expect

[@user-mh7po6rr3k]

You do know that Bettman works for the owners not the other way around right so by insinuating that it's Bettman team and he would let them do anything as long as it allows them to win the Stanley means that majority or all wants vegas to win the Stanley cup instead of their team you know how crazy that sounds right

[@Chip-hm3ny]

Teach your children well, Vegas, he who cast the third Stone is a sinner. They are everything that is wrong with sport.

[@jakenichols2626]

I just don't see why they'd make it so obvious by using the same player 3 times in a row... thats what makes me think its legitimate. they couldve used eichel or marchessault

[@timdumoulin2576]

What's the point of a cap system if a team can just BS their way around it?

[@53block92]

Well, let me spleen it to ya. A cap system puts a financial cap on the amount/salary your team has. You can't go over the cap. All teams have these caps so they aren't getting crazy money differences and stacking teams with too much talent, it wouldn't be fair to have all the money and talent in one team, they would have a huge advantage year after year and likely become a dynasty because of all the games they would win. If a team cheats and goes over the cap, they will be punished, there are rules for going over and/or cheating. However, in the NHL there are rules that some refer to as a "loophole" but they are actual rules that allow the cap to be opened up if someone is on LTIR (long term injured reserve) meaning they can't play at the moment but are still on the team. That money isn't reflected in the cap if your team is going into the playoffs, so it opens up more space (cap space) for teams to use up on bringing in other players come playoff time. This isn't limited to any one team, it's a rule that applies to all NHL teams, they attempted to change it but the teams voted on keeping it in place, so it's in place as of today. I know it was a long expleenation but it needed to be said.

[@nigelcanuck5943]

The NHL definitely needs to close this loophole! It's being abused and the Knights are the biggest abusers, but Marchmant was the difference after giving up the soft one.

[@waterboxer87]

The VGK play within NHL rules. More power to them.

[@sachads5322]

Agreed. It’s unsportsmanlike but it’s within the rules. Tbh, I’m surprised more teams aren’t doing the same thing. They absolutely should be.

[@borrow4654]

​@@sachads5322your expensive players have to get injured for you to use that loophole. If they dont, and if you dont put them on LTIR for the whole year and wait until the playoffs, youre being penalised for being healthy

[@Canucksie]

Canucks comeback

[@datriaxsondor590]

Said this on other videos covering the cap circumvention. Do not blame the teams for using the tools at their disposal, to win championships. Blame the system that allows them to do it. If the NHL really cares about salary cap integrity, they will enforce the cap through the playoffs in the next CBA, like they should have done initially. Also, Mark Stone can't put himself on LTIR, why boo him? Do people there think that Mark Stone likes spending 1/3 of his career in the press box, or something? Blame the NHL. Blame Bettman. Blame the NHPLA. You know, the people who negotiate and enforce the CBA, and the rules agreed upon in this league.

[@Juppe50]

Do you really think Stone is a 100%?

[@ScoobieSwisher7413]

87% actually

[@jiaan100]

69%

[@liljoe31]

He could be 5 per cent and it's enough to scare all the hockey soy bois

[@datriaxsondor590]

Do you really think that most star players are at 100%? When was the last time you saw a team get eliminated, or even win the cup itself, and not come out to announce countless on-going injuries that their star players were battling through? Whether Stone is 100% or not, he's still effective. As effective as any other star player battling through injury. Hardly the mic drop you might have thought it was.

[@Juppe50]

@@datriaxsondor590 Sure, many players are playing with injuries. But in Vegas' case, doesn't it make sense to wait as long as possible to activate Stone to let him heal up?

[@josephwootenVGK]

I absolutely love it. GO KNIGHTS GO

[@borrow4654]

No one likes you

[@nishant4866]

i like ham and cheese

[@CJ-1776]

Is it legal? Yes. That argument is over and pointless. Explanations/justifications really don't matter and it's all been said before. That said, any expectation Vegas fans have that other fans will do anything other than despise their team for doing this year after year is delusional at best. Some might be be OK with it, but a lot of them are not or we wouldn't be talking about it year after year. I'm sure Vegas fans really enjoy the success in their own echo chamber, but don't expect anyone outside of it to respect that team for doing it. They can choose to care about that..or not. Doesn't really matter and won't change any minds either way. This is for informational purposes only.... 😉

[@michaelpoteet4171]

I love the Vegas hate. You're not real winners unless you have haters in sports every great franchise/player has been called a cheater at some point even the great one. Its the attention you get for being better than others.

[@jeffnossan1083]

Poor poor Stars gonna once again get kicked from the tournament by Golden money bags!

[@weltan22]

So?

[@Melagrath_Ren]

if I was Dallas and it was looking like a sweep, it would be hard for me as a player to not want to make sure stone continues his injuries in the playoffs

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

Man what is it with all these haters and "look I dont hate VGK winkwink" grifters not owning up that Mark Stone came back in the regular season and missed the playoffs 2022? It's almost as if it ruins the narrative lol

[@ernestdeschambeault4077]

Stone for MVP 🎉

[@awwwshucks443]

Salary cap MVP

[@toedrag-release]

The rule needs to be fixed. Is it cheating? No but only on a technicality. It should be salary of players in the game.

[@TopCop1982]

Vegas. Low quality, dirty, slimy, dubious shenanigans. Or. This is all normal. Why are we even talking about it?

[@liljoe31]

Lots of drama queens are also hockey fans...who knew?

[@basilmcdonnell9807]

Mark Stone only plays in the playoffs. Makes him a little less useful as a player but if you have a spare 20 or 30 mil...

[@matthewnoto9380]

Need a version of the Reijo Routsalainen rule re: LTIR? For those too young to remember: Routsalainen was considered one of the best Finnish D-men, ever. The guy used to play in Europe (on loan) all year and then arrive with a playoff team just before the games started. He got his name on the Cup twice while playing fewer than 50 reg season games, total, over two years for Edmonton, I think it was. The specific rule stated that if a player had played outside of North America for the majority of the season, and the team which had loaned him to a team in another league brought him back, other teams had a chance to lure him away (as if he were on waivers). The Rangers snagged him that way one year for a playoff run, IIRC. Yes, that was all pre-Cap and pre-LTIR. And that rule is still in the CBA. Another aspect: it seems sort of ridiculous to me that teams who often cry poverty can simply avoid having a player's salary count against the cap simply by claiming he's injured (what is the criteria for reporting such and is it subject to review by the League?) , only to bring him back AGAINST the cap for the playoffs, and to be OVER the Cap during that time, as well, without incurring some form of penalty (like a luxury tax).

[@greenhat911]

Don't be jealous. They are using existing rules, any team can do the same and do. Being mad because the same rules your team didn't utilize are utilized successfully reeks of jealousy and envy. It is like being mad because someone else takes advantage of a tax law and you didn't....that's on you. If the rules allow for it don't cry.

[@OFFTHEBENCHOFFICIAL]

Well it looks like the Vegas Golden Ltrir’s are getting the cup

[@csharp48]

3 years ago , he was activated 9 games before the end of the regular season, and they didn't make the playoffs. I really dont know why everyone is spreading around this EASILY verifiable lie.

[@patrickhamos2987]

after this season they better seal this dumb loophole crap already. loser league

[@lucyvanpelt6470]

Every team has access to this so called loophole genius . Yea, Stone purposefully wanted his spleen lacerated just so he could be put on LTIR. You’re delusional and jelly. Get some new material, because this song is old and lame

[@Beetlejuice699]

Scripted league, bs injuries​@@lucyvanpelt6470

[@zppv5981]

@@lucyvanpelt64703 years in a row with the same team and same guy lol give me a break. It’s not hard to get a false diagnostic for “Bettmans new team”. Let’s be real 😂 sure get the acquisitions at trade deadline but shouldn’t be able to dress a roster over the cap period. It’s not a loophole it’s abusing the system and making a joke of the league. Absolute gong show

[@devonfarrar6817]

@@lucyvanpelt6470you’re delusional and clearly a biased Vegas fan lmao no one likes or respects that bullshit they’re doing

[@corymac1140]

@@lucyvanpelt6470 ya it only helped 2 of the last 3 Cup winners, def not a loophole. All the other pro leagues don't count the salary cap in the post season either eh. What a rookie, you must be a Vegas fan, started watching hockey 5-6 years ago .

[@deahelkcunklaer2180]

Vegas Golden Cheaters

[@bravexheart7]

Lmao .. knights team is a beast .. they coasted the reg season .. all they cared about making playoffs. I said a few days ago they would dismantle Dallas .. they just can’t match up with them with or without stone. Vegas D core is insanely good. Vegas makes cup final again rather easily