Star Trek The Next Generation Season 03 Episode 17 Sins of the Father
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@petestevenson10044 ай бұрын
This is why I love ST TNG so much, as well as DS9 and Voyager - many, many strong, powerfully written moments scattered throughout the series. This one is one of the very best.
@a1pha_star4 ай бұрын
Well said! 💯
@StewBedazzle4 ай бұрын
Yeah and it highlights why new trek is utter shit
@neptun28104 ай бұрын
ENT was the last strong series. Everything after it was trash.
@AngelusNielson4 ай бұрын
@@StewBedazzle And it also shows that you're old and crusty and don't like change.
@krouchingtigerr3 ай бұрын
Indeed! TNG and DS 9 had some of the most powerful writing in television history. No decisions made to "expediently advance plot," characters stayed true to their nature. Changes that happened were organic, and carefully crafted over long arcs...
@Bloodshark1234 ай бұрын
I love the irony that by accepting dishonor Worf acted with more honor than any of these other Klingons ever have.
@Kaizer61727 күн бұрын
That's why Worf, in many ways, is the truest and most honorable Klingon. He is the template by which all Klingons should conduct themselves.
@VTX0012822 күн бұрын
Indeed but he is on the outside of an Empire that doesn't see the rotting foundation. Worf is a traditionalist to a older code of honor and duty mix with common sense. That is why he accepted the dishonored to do the right thing save his people from civil war.
@lordisen46684 ай бұрын
I love K’mpec's little nod of approval when Worf strikes Duras. It really shows the true feelings that he's withholding for the sake of the Empire, and how he respects Worf as being the more honorable Klingon, even if he's the one to be officially condemned.
@Kaizer61727 күн бұрын
It's why he also told Worf to leave at first. He didn't want an innocent man to die to protect the son of a traitor. I think it's also why he asked Picard to be the arbiter of succession. I think he knew it was Duras who poisoned him, and wanted Picard to expose him, thus proving he was a dishonorable coward, then allowing Worf to openly challenge the high council and reclaim his family's honor. K'mpec might've done something dishonorable to keep the Empire from falling into civil war, but I like to think he was the only member of the council who had ANY honor to his name. I mean, he knew well enough to make sure Picard, an honorable man, was the one to choose the next leader of the Klingon people. To keep the power of the chancellor from falling into the wrong hands.
@josephmassaro2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart: Engaging Shakespeare Mode. Shakespeare mode engaged.
@jasonpye46492 жыл бұрын
Hmm powerful
@Mandolatron2 жыл бұрын
5 coffees. Engage.
@cameronmartin36163 ай бұрын
There is no high or low art just the totality of how well it is done. Don't try to be a great actor. Just be an actor, and let history make its own judgments.
@bryanx0317Ай бұрын
@@MandolatronWhat the... you meant 5 Earl Grey's.
@draexian53026 күн бұрын
@@cameronmartin3616 I like Picard's moments of weakness because it contrasts his traditional talents so well. We know him more than capable of performing a soliloquy, but to seem him aghast, panicked, or frightened is when I respect Sir Stewart's efforts.
@Uridien2 жыл бұрын
"You are still fat." What I say to myself at every weekly weigh in.
@leodouskyron56714 ай бұрын
She was not talking about his weight. 😂
@theapache994 ай бұрын
I still say this all the time
@darthimperious15942 жыл бұрын
The craziest, and most badass, part of this was that Picard was ready to throw away the Klingon-Federation Alliance and go to war in order to save Worf from an unjust death. He would not let greater political concerns cloud his morality. Not this time. That's what Picard taught me, back in the day: Do what is right, even when it's hard, even when it seems like it will shatter your life, do what is right, no matter what.
@jasonpye46492 жыл бұрын
The only qualification I would make to that is "do what is right, _especially_ when it's hard..."
@attiepollard78472 жыл бұрын
Darth. Let's be honest that alliance would have not been thrown away. Starfleet would have got wind of this along with the federation and would have told the card that he needs to give up this inquiry and say nothing about it.
@jasonpye46492 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 maybe you use the speech to text feature like I do most often. Picard* I've had the same autocorrect BS happen to me.
@attiepollard78472 жыл бұрын
@@jasonpye4649 sorry that was just voice typing that I did. I should have proofread that before I sent it
@jasonpye46492 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 like I said, I already figured it was. The same thing happens to me sometimes if I don't proof it first.
@Mality4 ай бұрын
Charles Cooper's performance as K'mpec really elevates this scene....his gravelly voice and the.inflections he gives to certain phrases like "You do not understand..." and "Your heart is Klingon" are spot on.. His death scene was similarly great...."there is no cure".
@mistermonologue24424 ай бұрын
Continued drinking from the poisoned wine as he tells Picard its killing him. Total basass and great acting no doubt.
@SethimusMaximus3 ай бұрын
Channeling his inner Orson Welles.
@crigeorge95493 ай бұрын
It's not the complete scene. There were some extra lines of him and Duras blackmailing Picard and Worf with the death of his brother. Bu , yes , he is a unique klingon. His statements are memorable especialy the one when he says: he's chalenge was defeated before he ever made it.
@tred62922 жыл бұрын
Ezri said it best in Deep Space Nine. If an Empire that prides Honor over anything else is allowed to accept corruption at the highest levels of its government, then it doesn’t deserve the respect of the warriors who serve it. The Empire, would surely die if left in the hands of the corrupt and the arrogant. Ahhhh, the similarities between fictional and real world governments. Star Trek is truly a mirror into the problems of our own society. Although, it also offers us possible solutions.
@shannonrhoads70995 ай бұрын
The Klingon solution generally involves bat'leths more than Earth's politics allow. A shame, really...
@lairddougal38334 ай бұрын
Well that has a nice little coda in what is going on in the US at present.
@Cha0sCloud4 ай бұрын
And what solution is that?
@shannonrhoads70994 ай бұрын
@@Cha0sCloud Klingon politics are a lot more stabby, literally, and in the front rather than the back. On the plus side, when a Klingon engages in politics, you'll know exactly where they stand.
@danielhaire66774 ай бұрын
It's why Martok becoming Chancellor was so important. He valued the old ways and values.
@specialk94245 ай бұрын
I always liked that little smirk of approval from K'Empec, after Work backhands Duras. K'Empec always knew Duras was a shithead, and he wished he could have smacked him once or twice, himself, but politics wouldn't allow it. So, he enjoyed that.
@0megacron4 ай бұрын
Same here - it was the right and proper response to the situation, and K'Empec knew it. The action only further cemented Worf's honor in his eyes.
@Anthyrion4 ай бұрын
Wait... wasn't a backhand chop meant to be a challenge for a duel to the death?
@Supervillain7253 ай бұрын
@Anthyrion and they had one after Word bitch slapped him
@kereminde3 ай бұрын
@@Anthyrion But by accepting discommodation (sp?), Worf no longer would be allowed to do that challenge. (Except in certain circumstances.)
@KipdoesStuff3 ай бұрын
@@kereminde the circumstance we see in a future episode when he kills Doras for killing his mate.
@zacharyfett24912 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of Worf’s story. I was very happy to see it continued in Deep Space Nine.
@Alamandorious4 ай бұрын
The Klingon civil war episodes were epic. We got to see Worf the Warrior, through and through.
@Bird-Birdy-Love4 ай бұрын
@@AlamandoriousThe Conclusion to it when Ezri just gave him a splash of reality was the final icing to the cake.
@tbk20103 ай бұрын
They (the writers) did his brother dirty though
@hansenkho3835Ай бұрын
And probably next Klingon Da'Ha Master after 2nd Battle Of Sector 001
@jmwoods1904 ай бұрын
0:13 Somehow I think Kahlest telling K'mpec that he was still fat actually meant more than face value: she also probably implied that what K'mpec was doing to Worf was in her eyes very unattractive, and therefore K'mpec would never be able to woo her.
@davidrosenblum21785 ай бұрын
Worf’s pimp hand is strong!
@jdeanb1Ай бұрын
THAT!!!!
@Kevin_Kennelly4 ай бұрын
And thus, Worf becomes a Trek legend. Plus, 2:43 "The alliance with the Federation could fall to dust." Kudos to Charles Cooper's performance as K'mpec.
@teletran11754 ай бұрын
That backhanded slap is the perfect insult to Duras. He doesn't even deserve to be hit like a warrior should be.
@dbfrench65293 ай бұрын
Correct, and perfectly stated.
@aqacefan2 ай бұрын
I maintain that when Toral was abandoned by his sisters (and Gowron answered his claim that the House of Duras would one day rule the Empire "Maybe... but not today") Worf should have told him, "I will say to you what I once said to your father... You are the son of a traitor." And backhanded him just the same. I have also come to realize that by not killing Toral, Worf condemned him to the most ignominious fate a Klingon could ever suffer... to fight no battles, to win no victories... to die of old age.
@danielmccurdy8624 ай бұрын
The Empire REALLY wasn't ready for Worf. Growing up among humans, he had idealized the Empire, and its ways, in his head. It was what he spent his whole life aspiring to. And then to return home and find that it failed to meet the standard, and having been trained by Starfleet to seek only excellence, he was a time bomb to blow up the alliance of lies constructed by the Duras. They couldn't stop him. And for a hot second, he became Chancellor.
@subcommanderxelios800Ай бұрын
Best of all, he won the chancellorship in honorable combat, no tricks, just good ol’ fashioned Klingon diplomacy.
@michaelwestmoreland25304 ай бұрын
Anyone notice the body language shift in Worf when Picard starts up? From aggression to discipline? Beautiful.
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
2:48 - this moment was awesome. First off, it really brought home the fact that rank and file Klingons actually viewed the treaty as something noble and honourable, not just some political calculation or expediency. And second, it conveyed a veiled threat: if Picard were to go public with the Council's betrayal and dishonour, after the Empire dissolved the alliance, rank and file Klingons would rise against the Empire rather than against the Federation.
@brucechmiel79645 ай бұрын
The alliance was forged by the rank and file on both sides. The Enterprise A opened the door, The Enterprise C shed blood for them and Curzon Dax stood proudly beside them.
@GrandGoblin4 ай бұрын
I love Kem'pec's nod after Worf pimp hand's Duras 4:30
@cyka77052 жыл бұрын
I love how duras finally realized he actually the son of a traitor, look at his face after he slapped by worf
@hard2getitrightagain3145 ай бұрын
The bigger issue is that he accepts the slap. Honor demands a fight to the death right there and then. He cannot provide one because he is a weak, manipulative, conspirator. Worf was just acknowledged to be a true Klingon. Duras is now acknowledged to be a sniveling coward
@johnweatherman56854 ай бұрын
More I think he realized that even discommended, Worf would be seeking revenge. I dare say he wouldn't have touch Kaylar if he had any idea about the connection to Worf, he would have known he was signing his own death warrent.
@danieldickson85914 ай бұрын
I believe Duras knew all along that his father conspired with the Romulans. Why else would he have so emphatically opposed Worf's challenge, even to the point of having Kurn attacked? Moreover, Duras himself got Romulan help to try to assassinate Gowron, and probably K'mpec as well. He accepted Worf's slap and lowered his head in shame, because in that room he couldn't hide from the truth any longer.
@lusti65114 ай бұрын
@@hard2getitrightagain314 You're right. This basically is Duras' problem: He has no honor to defend. So in tradition of his family's values, he chose to be a coward and a political opportunist instead of a Klingon. And Worf showed him, that he can easily overstep those boundaries of the Klingon culture, because he knew what kind of man was in front of him. Basically it boils down to the fact, that even in discommendment, Worf is the better Klingon than Duras. But Duras made the same error as K'mpec. He thought the problem wouldn't come to Qo'noS, and he also thought the problem would leave Qo'noS with Worf, never to come up again. But the fact Worf was accepting the punishment, offering an even worse one, protecting his brother and slapping him, there is enough evidence that Worf will be back someday to take revenge, as a good Klingon will. Me as Duras would have insisted, that Worf has to be killed. Better kill a man than dishonor him. So Duras is in fact a political opportunist, but even in his main field of work, he's a bad one. He maybe understand the political side of the Empire, but he knows knothing about the Klingon soul.
@leodouskyron56714 ай бұрын
Worf has one of the most powerful and longest arcs of any character in Trek and it really begins here.
@CharlesUrban5 ай бұрын
"Wait. I'm not ready to accept blame for a crime I didn't commit. (Slaps the guilty party.) Okay, now I'm ready."
@Deridus3 ай бұрын
Thing is, Duras deserved the slap because he denied the truth of it. Why he got slapped hardly matters in the face of so much dishonorable conduct.
@jamespierce67772 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite episodes of TNG
@YDKJ072 жыл бұрын
Indeed the scenes with Picard and Worf are legendary. The fact that Worf would be and did allow a lie to remain the truth is so plainly shown. The scene where Picard tries to confront Worf and in return Worf tell his captain, his Cha dich will be silent explains that though on a Federation starship Picard is his superior officer,but under klingon law his Worf second.
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
A great two part episode. But not necessarily my favorite. But then again, TNG had a lot of great episodes. So it's hard for my to pick a favorite.
@CrniWuk4 ай бұрын
No lensflare. No killing. No running. No explosions. Just people talking. And yet one of the best moments of Trek.
@jimslancio4 ай бұрын
An earlier episode had Riker serving as first officer of a Klingon ship. This episode started out as a quid pro quo with a Klingon serving on the Enterprise. In what may be the greatest Sudden Plot Twist in the franchise, the Klingon exchange officer turns out to be Worf's brother, apprising him of this plot against their family honor. There follows the greatest of all Klingon-themed episodes. Kudos to Ronald "Battlestar Galactica" Moore, who did many of the best Klingon episodes.
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
This scene...and so many like it...made Picard and Worf the embodiment of everything gained by both races from the mutual alliance between the Klingons and the Federation. It's easy to see, looking at the two of them here, what the two races saw in each other worthy of committing an alliance towards, not just a peace treaty or non-aggression pact.
@morbius1094 ай бұрын
K’mpec didn’t like Duras, and you could tell by the nod @ 4:31 when Worf struck him. Had he been able to do so, he’d likely have had him strung up as punishment for his father’s treachery. But, sad as it is to admit for the effect it had on Worf, his priority had to be the preservation of the Empire.
@christianvalentin53445 ай бұрын
When K’Empec threatened the end of the Federation-Klingon Alliance, Picard should’ve also brought up the fact that his ship’s predecessor was lost coming to the defense of Kithomer.
@hithere87535 ай бұрын
True.
@3Rayfire4 ай бұрын
Narendra III, but your point stands.
@MMuraseofSandvich3 ай бұрын
If he meant the Enterprise-A, it could work. Kirk was trying to prevent another assassination and thus save the path to the Khitomer Accords.
@geoffwilliams44782 жыл бұрын
It's too bad Worf took too long to stand up to even the council until he killed Gowron in Deep Space Nine. It would've saved Ezri a lot of wisdom when she told him, "I think the Empire is dying and I think it deserves to die."
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
Good point. But Worf did get his honor (his family name) restored again in the two part TNG episode "Redemption". But he lost it yet again in the two part DS9 episode "The way of the Warrior" (when he refused to join Gowron in the fight against Cardassia). Poor Worf always had a hard time living between two worlds. A complexed & troubled character. 🖖😁
@AttackerNumberTwo2 жыл бұрын
No Klingon would ever say that, Picard would never say that and Jadzia would NEVER say it. Ezri doesn’t have a history with Klingons and she’s the only one who could say such a thing and Worf would stop and think on the words and realise she was right.
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
Before it died, it deserved a couple chances. Same with the US empire today. And Ezri’s assessment came AFTER this event took place…and subsequent ones as well, from which she likely formed her assessments.
@nickcarroll85652 жыл бұрын
@@szahmad2416 I love my country (US) but damned if your words don’t make sense 😞. Our govt has been rotten for some time.
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
@@nickcarroll8565 right now, the US can choose whether to be an empire ruled by a few rich oligarchs, or a democracy. Not both.
@alexwest25143 ай бұрын
I love the nodding from Kimpec when Worf gives the backhand to Duras
@chrispeplinski73062 жыл бұрын
A wonderful episode
@AttackerNumberTwo2 жыл бұрын
The cha’dich will be silent!
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
Yep. An acceptable way to tell your captain to shut up. 🖖
@0biwan74 ай бұрын
wil wheaton should use this as a retort to every "shut up westley"
@Enkarashaddam5 ай бұрын
And many many years later Worf became Chancellor for a couple of seconds
@szahmad24164 ай бұрын
And even more years later, became an elder shaman, sitting in front of a Koi pond, and occasionally riling up Riker by hitting on Troi (Picard series).
@NoahSpurrier2 жыл бұрын
“You are the son of a traitor… I am ready.”
@luminaire49466 ай бұрын
the backhanded slap....such dishonor to the one getting slapped.
@ncc1701chris2 жыл бұрын
Good episode.....sins of the father.
@MessrDookie1012 жыл бұрын
Picard as Cha’dich brought my first tears while watching TNG
@wesmantooth59082 жыл бұрын
What were your second tears for? Your third?
@MessrDookie1012 жыл бұрын
@@wesmantooth5908 after that I was crying a lot so idk
@skynetprime822 жыл бұрын
Worf should never had agreed to that, the council were a bunch of traitors and should've been torn apart for their lies and deceit, but luckily now that martok is the leader of the empire I've no doubt that he restored worfs name and honor
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
In that moment, Worf had little to lose…and I don’t think he realized how deep the rot was. The Klingons were not merely dishonourable at the top ranks, but also many figures like Gowron as well. There was still a belief in him that someone like with strong ideals could redeem the Klingon Empire’s ideals and structure.
@jayroi18145 ай бұрын
Welcome to every government ever
@3Rayfire4 ай бұрын
Gowron restored his honor after the Civil War. He then took it again when Worf opposed the Klingon-Cardassian War, that preceded the Federation-Klingon War, that were just machinations by the Founders to weaken the Alpha Quadrant powers. Worf was right Gowron was wrong, but Worf's honor was only restored this time when Martok accepted him into the House of Martok.
@wyldelf26854 ай бұрын
DS9 did Gowron and Worf dirty , Gowron was honorable , , , UNTIL. DS9 Wich also decided to make Worf more antisocial than he ever was , , ,and before any of you start saying how he was married to a non Klingon Jadsia , , let me remind you in TNG episode "Paraells" he comforted alternate Deanna Troi who married a Worf , and told her he was never against the idea of them being a couple but bowed away because he respected Cmdr Riker , , the TNG 2-parter "All Good Things" revisited Worf's passion for Deanna Troi , , , so ultimately DS9 did Klingons Dirty , , ,😢😢
@dreadfulspiller87662 жыл бұрын
Empires on the most part have no honor.
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
Once a political entity reaches the status of empire, it usually doesn't; agreed. Then, it becomes about the preservation of the status quo. However, certainly before it grows to the level of empire, there may be many leaders and others with a sense of honour that people in later years want to preserve and emulate.
@matthewkuchinski17696 ай бұрын
When Picard shows what a real captain and leader does, you know that the Klingon judge looks like a total bully and coward.
@deliagroer26132 жыл бұрын
Most honorable Klingon! I loved Worf!
@JamStunnaАй бұрын
One of the most amazing aspects of this scene is how Picard and Word shift authority between each other. First is Picard, when he starts talking as a Starfleet captain. He’s giving orders; they will NOT execute Worf. You can see in the scene that Worf literally stands taller, bolstered by his captain’s support. But an instant later Worf takes command when he silences Picard. And the captain accepts this, both because of the cultural reasons and because his officer needs to speak for himself. But Worf STILL maintains his respect for his captain by looking down. When Kurn was his cha’dich he looked him right in the eye and demanded obedience. Here though, he’s more saying “I need to be heard,” but you know, in the Klingon way lol. A wonderfully written scene, wonderfully performed by Patrick Stewart and Michael Dorn.
@jonathonbartos30614 ай бұрын
This episode provided so much world-building and depth for the Klingons. It showed a culture in which honor is held paramount, but also exposes that they in no way live up to that expectation of honor. The Klingons went from a very one-note race of villains in TOS and its films, to a fascinating culture worthy of more exploration.
@Nameless.Hermit4 ай бұрын
Technically Worf challenged Duras to a battle to the death here, because in DS9 Worf tells Sisko - when they go undercover as Klingons to find the changeling, that an open backhand to the face is an offer of a death match in Klingon culture.
@dallassukerkin68784 ай бұрын
That makes the expression on Duras's face quite a subtle piece of acting as it showed his cowardice very clearly.
@3Rayfire4 ай бұрын
And Duras accepted it because he knew Worf was right and that Duras was a bitch like his traitor father.
@wyattmann81574 ай бұрын
When I watched this episode in first run syndication waaay back in the day, they had forgotten to add the "slap" sound effect, so when Worf struck Duras, it was completely silent. 😁
@jjc457720 күн бұрын
TNG had some extremely well-written episodes. Good writing makes for good TV far more than good CGI
@StarWarsMoments5 ай бұрын
I used to wonder why they didn't ask him to accept discommodation in the first place. Seemed easier all around! Now I realize, they never thought they would meet a Klingon with the balls to do it. To take a false shame and wear it for the sake of an Empire.
@szahmad24164 ай бұрын
It went against everything a Klingon believed in and pursued, and was yet the embodiment of every value a Klingon upheld. Also, making him accept discommendation in Wood me, and revealing what actually was going on, and who was actually guilty.
@3Rayfire4 ай бұрын
The original plan was just to slander Mogh, thinking that Worf was a soft Federation citizen who wouldn't care and wouldn't even hear about it. Kurn screwed that up by revealing himself and bringing Worf the news. Far from being some soft human raised Klingon Worf formed himself to be the MOST Klingon Klingon. They had already decided to sacrifice the House of Mogh, and Worf showing up didn't change that plan. K'mpec respected Worf for the solution. It allowed him to save his little brother, keep the Empire from a costly civil war, and live to fight another day. It also added extra validation to the cover story they fabricated by having him confirm it. He also sacrificed his honor to save other Klingon's lives. It was a lot and showed who Worf really was.
@PlasmaCoolantLeak5 ай бұрын
J-L at some of his finest in this arc. Worf would go through a wall for his captain, seeing how he defended him.
@3Rayfire4 ай бұрын
"If you were any other man, I would KILL you where you stand.", Even if Picard calls his courage into question, Worf still loves and honors him. Picard was always in his corner.
@absolutjackal4 ай бұрын
NGL, when I saw this my first thought was how some religions won't write the word God out in full but instead use G-d b/c it is considered too sacred to write. So is this saying we are not worthy to write the name of JLP?
@0076Coyote4 ай бұрын
What did Worf's hand say to the son of a traitor's face? SLAP! This was one of the best FU's in TNG
@ray74192 жыл бұрын
Lol!!! “You are still fat.” 🤣
@TornadoHound2 жыл бұрын
Now he's just extra pissed.😆
@sarajavoyugoslavia3 ай бұрын
I love how Worf did two things, he doesn't slap Duras until after K'mpec says, "let's never speak of this discussion again," and he sort of turns away before slapping Duras by surprise as if to say, this is what your father did when he betrayed us.
@sabriam4 ай бұрын
"You are still fat, K'mpec." His look of displeasure, followed quickly by averting his eyes in knowing shame. He has always been fat, and he has always been willing to compromise his honor to gain and keep his position. What else could she say?
@666mengel4 ай бұрын
I truly loved old lady use of the knife! Very impressive!!
@dpcrn3 ай бұрын
Oh how I wish we had men like Worf and Picard in charge of our countries around the world.
@Bird-Birdy-Love4 ай бұрын
Honestly this entire plot was one of the defining moments for Worf and all of TNG era trek the path all the way to end of DS9 was fantastic. Worf who most saw as an outcast in klingon society cause he was raised by humans and served starfleet was more klingon that they ever were. When Ezri told him the cold truth i rejoiced in Joy. Cause i was sick and tired of him always getting the boot by them and the rest were hand holding him but no dear old Ezri just told it to him straight and the rest was history so as not to spoil more for new fans
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@robertpolityka84642 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been interesting if their conversation was recorded and transmitted directly to the peoples of the Empire, through a live feed.
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
More or less what Picard was implicitly threatening when he retorted in the populist tone to K'mpec at 2:48. K'mpec threatening to dissolve the alliance was an empty threat, and Picard was quick to show it.
@davidjamessheets4 ай бұрын
Facebook live hadn't been invented
@robertpolityka84644 ай бұрын
@@davidjamessheets Agreed.. but you'd think Picard couldn't have used his com badge as a recording device??
@Locutus2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the subtitles! Did you do them? They seemed perfect!
@April-dv2pb2 жыл бұрын
I found a website that had the subtitles for each series. However sometimes it will miss something in the subtitles that I will add.
@Locutus2 жыл бұрын
@@April-dv2pb So much dedication, just for clips!
@April-dv2pb2 жыл бұрын
@@Locutus it is however I enjoy my channel.
@DarthVoxyn4 ай бұрын
Behold Worf the Legend the Bad Ass. Scenes like this are why I love his character as well as Captain Picard.
@tazchanday24222 жыл бұрын
Amazing,,, just. ,,,,🤧
@anthonyju63922 ай бұрын
"You admit the truth and yet expect him accept punishment. What does this say about an EMPIRE that holds HONOR so DEAR?!?"
@thomashill63472 жыл бұрын
We find so much about the Klingons TRULY started with NG, I am pleased with the creation of the Klingon race in Star Trek
@KEVMAN79872 жыл бұрын
For being obsessed with honor, Klingons act without it very often.
@Achatius19822 жыл бұрын
Honor is just an instrument in politics, it can be used and abused to steer the people through the ages. But it's worth nothing, when it's more abused than used.
@szahmad24162 жыл бұрын
Honour is great...until expediency and political calculation set in.
@nickcarroll85652 жыл бұрын
“Honor is a gift a man gives to himself” -Rob Roy
@christopherwall21214 ай бұрын
"In war, there is no greater honor than victory."
@3Rayfire4 ай бұрын
@@christopherwall2121 ~General Martok
@davidbgreensmith4 ай бұрын
For all their talk of honour, the Klingons demonstrate time and again how little they have.
@randellgoering101416 күн бұрын
Even klingon bath robes have armor. Lol
@nsr-ints3 ай бұрын
Same energy as Adama's "I'm not letting you execute my men!"
@Maescool4 ай бұрын
And then Dax is like, let the empire fall
@jliller3 ай бұрын
If the truth would cause your empire to collapse then your empire deserves to collapse.
@Tydusis14 ай бұрын
Never realized until now that not only does Worf backhand Duras, a gesture that would normally be an challenge of a fight to the death, but he also gets a nod of approval from the Klingon leader.
@johnnelson71922 ай бұрын
Accept they were willing to destroy it for Duras's dishonor.
@legionaireb4 ай бұрын
I came here ENTIRELY for the first 17 seconds of this clip.
@crigeorge95493 ай бұрын
There was another version of this dialog that included some extra lines of K'mpec and Duras on Dailymotion. Adding more drama. For some reason the directors prefered not to include them in the aired episode. Unfortunately its not available anymore to see it there. K'mpec : you risk this much? This is not the Federation, Picard. If you defy an order of the High Council in an affair of the Empire, the alliance with the Federation could fall to dust. Picard : same line. then Duras: A true klingon would never hide from his judgement Picard , no matter what you'll have them do. K'mpec: What would you do... about Kurn? huh? Make him an officer in Starfleet(laughthing) , He's klingon! After his tour on your ship is complete, he would have no place to go. He will rather ...die. (closing his eyes briefly in resignation). Worf: I will die for the empire. Picard: Leutenant!!! .... This is the real reason why Worf gave up in continuing and rather admit the shame on his family. To protect his brother.
@NealX_GamingАй бұрын
I like how K'Empec is so scared of civil war, when later on and the civil war finally breaks out, the Klingons on both sides seem to basically enjoy it.
@RoadRunnerMeep4 ай бұрын
His voice sounds similar at 4:10, was Kmpec the voice of the ship builder from Farscape who met with Zhaan? EDIT - Nope, was Jonathan Hardy
@joshuahudson21703 ай бұрын
The answer by right ought to be, "The cha'Dlch may defend Worf against all assult. There is no exception for blatant assult by the council itself, and Worf has a cha'Dlch with a starship at his command."
@Tadoka_Inamo4 ай бұрын
4:31 We learn in DS9 that for a Klingon, a backhand to the face means a challenge to a fight to the death.
@ronwit21 күн бұрын
Scenes like this are where we begin to see that the ideal world Roddenberry had shown us still possessed deep flaws and that the TNG Klingons are more like the TOS Klingons than we had been led to believe.
@jonatube283 ай бұрын
Bet tractor tyre head struggles to get through some doors with that massive cranium
@iamemjarrobinson87133 ай бұрын
Even though the Klingons have the rather unfair code that condemns a son along with a father, they will still acknowledge honorable conduct. Even if Worf's father had have been guilty, K'mpec would have seen Worf as honorable in spite of everything. As for Duras, well, like father like son.
@gudaran3 ай бұрын
back when writers knew how to write...
@FirstLast-cg2nk4 ай бұрын
And thus began the tradition of Worf getting shafted over and over again for the good of the Klingon Empire.
@RangerOneGaming2 ай бұрын
Real star trek.
@Okiedog12 жыл бұрын
"Discomidation"? What is that, like being excommunicated?
@AttackerNumberTwo2 жыл бұрын
Essentially yes.
@momokochama18442 жыл бұрын
more or less. but more like excommunication in the middle ages. Discommendation means he becomes more or less persona non grata within the empire
@pokemaster123ism26 күн бұрын
Considering the empire fell to civil war later, it would’ve been better had they had the war at this time. K’mpec would’ve been alive to rally the empire, and they could’ve announced that Ja’rrod was the traitor, not Mogh, hurting Duras faction
@theaussiebackflipboy3 ай бұрын
Sometimes Klingon honour can be "flexible"....
@Narrowgaugefilms3 ай бұрын
In another century, in another solar system, among another species, politics is STILL politics!
@turbopokey4 ай бұрын
I thought that back-hand slap meant a challenge for duel to the death?
@faycemahn1213 ай бұрын
Kimpok, I spelled it that way to show disrepect so don't correct me, running running the Empire like a Romulan and Worf taking it from behind for a reason that won't matter later. Yep. Kling-nons.
@patricksmith76262 жыл бұрын
Men of honor is a wicked age.
@mikeeubank2464 ай бұрын
It’s ironic that Klingons value honor and courage so highly yet have no sense of what true honor and courage is.
@michaelhill28444 ай бұрын
Kahlest body-shamed K'mpec.
@randomobserver81683 ай бұрын
Although it overlaps, Honor is not a synonym for Justice, Ethics, or Morality- these terms are not entirely synonymous either, but they are close to one another than any is to Honor. Honor is about public standing in a peer group, and personal feelings about that standing, and about whatever duties that Honor demands. It is not purely personal, nor purely ethical, nor does every Tom, Dick or Harry have standing to question any particular person's honor unless they are part of the same peer group as him. Largely a sidebar comment, save that Picard's standing to challenge any Klingon's honor will be limited by himself not being a Klingon let alone a Klingon warrior, but alternatively bolstered for any Klingon's familiar with his combat and leadership record, or for some Klingon's willing to judge based solely on his conduct here. It will not be automatic or universal, though, because he is not one of them. Certainly not to the degree that pronouncements from Picard or the Federation would automatically turn the Klingon people against K'mpec or the Council. Plus, while the cynicism of power politics being a reality everybody sooner or later finds distasteful but also necessary, it is worth noting that loyalty to and preservation of the Empire would be widely considered an honorable act, and duty. Worf himself thinks this when he offers to die for the Empire.
@RurouniKalainGaming2 жыл бұрын
Dat slap is all he'll have for some years, heh.
@fabriglas3 ай бұрын
Corruption everywhere it seems in all ways!
@axelfoley14063 ай бұрын
Sadly, human nature. A lot of people would do anything for personal gain. It's no different than the animal world, but you would think with our cognitive ability and sentience, we would want to treat each other better. Many do, but many also don't.
@n.w.18034 ай бұрын
"You are still fat, K'mpec.."
@RetroActiveGM22 күн бұрын
I know it turns out okay in the end with Martok as Chancellor, but if I were Worf, I would've just let the civil war happen. Fuck it 😂
@54raynor3 ай бұрын
Kae’lest was right: Worf chose well.
@user-ki4ex9jb7d4 ай бұрын
The whole reason to watch startrek: Next Generation. Worf
@beav19623 ай бұрын
Duras was such a smug, arrogant pos. K'mpek wasn't strong enough to guide his people through this scandal. Worf had honor that couldn't be measured. He was the best Klingon in this room, and Picard was second!
@cold10er4 ай бұрын
That episode really bothered me that worf had to endure punishment for something he didn't do
@wufspyder4 ай бұрын
Honor betrayed is NOT HONORABLE. An Empire based on LIES is not TRULY AN Empire. It is nothing but paper.
@ukspizzaman11 күн бұрын
This is so Norwegian. Someone takes the blame. And then we never speak of it again. If you do, you will be punished. It has been settled.