100 degrees in the aircraft, strange smell and noise. JetBlue A220 diverts to JFK. Real ATC

THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
21-SEP-2024. A JetBlue Airways Airbus A220-300 (BCS3), registration N3125J, performing flight JBU561 / B6561 from New York LaGuardia Airport, NY (USA) to Palm Beach International Airport, FL (USA) was climbing out LaGuardia when the pilot requested immediate return and reported strange smell in the aircraft and noise. A couple of minutes later they declared and emergency. Being in approach to LaGuardia the flight crew decided to divert to New York John F. Kennedy International Airport, NY (USA) and requested emergency equipment to meet them on the ground. After landing on runway 4 left at JFK the pilots reported high temperature in the aircraft (about 100 degrees) and requested the inspection of the aircraft.
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Timestamps:
00:17 JetBlue Airbus A220 reports strange smell and noise on after takeoff. They need immediate return
02:49 The airplane is on frequency of Newark Departure
03:48 The flight crew contacts New York LaGuardia Approach
06:28 The pilots want to divert to New York Kennedy International Airport
07:20 The airplane is on frequency of JFK Approach
09:19 The flight crew is ready for Approach to Kennedy Airport
10:09 The airplane is on frequency of JFK Tower
10:34 Landing at Kennedy Airport. Communications on the Ground with emergency services
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THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
SOURCES OF MATERIAL, LICENSES AND PERMISSIONS:
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Map, aerial pictures (License (ODbL) ©OpenStreetMap -www.openstreet...) Permission for commercial use, royalty-free use.
Radar screen (In new versions of videos) - Made by author.
Text version of communication - Made by Author.
Video editing - Made by author.
HOW I DO VIDEOS:
1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

[@mahu1982]

how has the FAA not standardized the fuel reporting for emergency aircraft? Hours, pounds, kilos, tons...So much unnecessary back and forth every single time.

[@ugiswrong]

I know, this makes me so MAD SOMETIMES

[@dennisc6716]

ATC could resolve most of it themselves by stating the request as pounds or time.

[@baby-youre-a-haunted-house]

not a pilot but this frustrates me as well whenever i watch these videos -- i think part of the issue is that there's no standard way to measure fuel across all countries/airlines/aircraft types, so they might ask for weight in pounds but the pilot only has the volume in litres, or whatever. at the very least i feel like atc should specify a unit when they ask for fuel, and pilots should do the same when they answer. doesn't necessarily have to be same unit, conversions are simple enough, as long as everyone knows how they're measuring (ie not just saying '4 + 00' like this pilot did). i saw a video once where the pilot was using kg and atc was using pounds (or something along those lines) and another pilot on the frequency had to do the conversion for them because it was causing so much confusion, which just seems like a very clunky and awkward way to do things in an emergency where things should be simple and streamlined.

[@binkymagnus]

every single time, right? the pilots are worried about how much time they have left, the emergency crews on the ground are worried about how big the fireball is going to be.

[@jetjock60]

Allow me to clarify, as a former airline pilot. ATC wants fuel in time because they want to make certain from their perspective that they are not time constrained in getting you down. Emergency services wants to know the weight (mass for you in the rest of the world) to have an idea of how much retardant they should have on hand if a fire erupts after landing.

[@thomasairbuspilot]

400,000 pounds of fuel on an A220 😂

[@dennisc6716]

No, no, that's 400,000 minutes.

[@TheSkypeConverser]

Lol

[@GH-oi2jf]

No, the maximum fuel load is about 40,000 lbs.

[@Brian0045]

They got the cheat code for infinite fuel.

[@theo4307]

First A220 to fly with “heavy” appended to the callsign.

[@laeeb23]

LA Flights was at JFK and Captured the moment the aircraft landed and stopped is their UN week day 1 live stream yesterday

[@vx5468]

❤ @laeeb23 😊. For anyone searching, it's yesterday's first broadcast. Click on comments, then expand @deguitto's post, and scroll down to find the timestamp. @L.A Flights' coverage was excellent!!!

[@Ryan-719]

This was a mess lol

[@alexey.du88]

Just for information, 100°F = 38°C.

[@YouCanSeeATC]

That's a bit uncomfortable in closed aircraft.

[@mata2723]

@@YouCanSeeATC yes but 100°C, even worse, they would be boiling.....

[@johnmknox]

@@mata2723 100ºC if perfect for making a cup of English Breakfast tea.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Just so you know. The rest of the world is educated. We can move between different units with ease.

[@LjL-Videos]

@@Look_What_You_Did I appreciated the conversion. Sure, I could have looked it up myself too, but I don't see the issue.

[@GWNorth-db8vn]

The title describes an apartment I once had.

[@RS-ls7mm]

Or a hotel room in Las Vegas.

[@craig7350]

I stayed at a place that had a cage around the thermostat so you couldn't turn it up. So I just wired a cup full of ice under it .. nice and toasty.

[@GWNorth-db8vn]

@@craig7350 - The place I was thinking of had steam heat with no thermometers, and they put the old people on the ground floor. The ground floor had to be hot for them, so the whole building above that was, too. You had to leave the window open in the winter.

[@marksullivan6427]

How many damn times does ATC have to request fuel and souls on board? What the hell ????

[@GH-oi2jf]

Just until they get the info. Recall that there were two airports involved here.

[@marksullivan6427]

@@GH-oi2jf Correct! I forgot about the 2nd airport

[@TJF-f5l]

Why don’t we maximize the benefits our electronic friends can offer and include both hours/pounds of fuel and souls onboard as part of the ADS-B data transmission? The data could be sent directly to the controller and fire station, thereby removing the communications burden from both the controller and the flight crews.

[@jamescollier3]

yes! also they could get the fuel and souls from some company database. Everything about the flight path is known hours in advance. Is the fire dept not going to have a full response for a 737 with only 10 people? It well be hours before any reconciliation

[@Jimmy_Jones]

Ah. So they didn't boil alive. Good to know. Lol.

[@fra93ilgrande]

Bit surely they did sweat a lot 🥵💦😂

[@Ampax-ju9wh]

"400,000 pounds... What was the fuel?!"

[@ChasingMyTravelDreams]

Victor, could you do the mouse accident on the SAS 4683 OSL> AGP on Sep, 18th. Thank you

[@YouCanSeeATC]

I'm not Victor🙂

[@craig7350]

@@YouCanSeeATC roger roger

[@longago3649]

Re: fuel. As soon as he said 4.0, I knew he meant hours. Standardization would be nice but as he was just departing, it made sense to me reporting in hours. Guess I have heard it before.

[@pleappleappleap]

Is this the same controller who was on for the Miracle on the Hudson?

[@jfelipe1987]

That voice is unmistakable

[@msjdb723]

Patrick Harten kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3_YfHiFq86IrNEsi=DRrzkPGFJ0CK7U1W

[@msjdb723]

I don't know that that's who it is, but a lot of these NY controllers sound similar to me.

[@craig7350]

No, he'd be distracting Sully asking for fuel and souls, and the miracle would have turned into a disaster.

[@eazymoneyracing]

"We need an immediate return"... Proceeds to fly around NYC running checklists

[@saxmanb777]

As they should.

[@TrevorWofford]

And cut off comms over Newark

[@andrewtaylor9610]

What is the aversion to using the correct terminology of 'pan' or 'mayday', like the rest of the world? Doing so immediately clarifies the urgency of the situation.

[@seanfromann8214]

According to the aeronautical information manual, pan pan signals an urgent condition and mayday signals an aircraft in distress. Mayday also commands radio silence on the frequency. Pan pan may be appropriate however saying the word emergency allows the pilots more leeway to handle the situation. According to 14 cfr 91.123 a pilot may deviate from atc instructions only as necessary to respond to an emergency.

[@EstorilEm]

Probably because modern ATC was essentially developed in the US, and the VAST majority (like over 1/3 of worldwide flights) occur within the US alone. There are varying degrees of emergency which don’t always require this terminology. If you’ve already been discussing an issue and going through checklists THEN eventually decide you need to return priority, simply saying “declaring an emergency” is fine to me. If you haven’t been talking to ATC and an engine falls off, AND the frequency also has a ton of random traffic on it, then yes, you absolutely break in with a “pan” or “mayday” call. I think it’s mostly about context.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Two ameritard clowns respond... both responding to their own internal narrative.

[@GH-oi2jf]

"Mayday" is used to get immediate attention when you are not already in communication. This aircraft was still in communication with departure, so there was no need to get their attention. All that was necessary was to declare their intention to return, and, ultimately, an emergency.

[@1947dave]

@@EstorilEm The trouble with airplane and passenger stats is that the pandemic messed everything up. In 2019 the last full year pre-pandemic, US airline passengers was 20% of the world total according to worldpopulationreview. Which isn't the vast majority, it's just the largest minority. And it all depends on what is counted as passengers, or flights per country. Ireland is 3rd. on the list with 18% of US passengers in 2019 - which makes zero sense unless the basis of the stats is explained and most sources just don't do that!

[@bandesj]

The ironic thing is the flight was going to Palm Beach International and the flight number is JetBlue 561. 561 is the area code for Palm Beach County.

[@GWNorth-db8vn]

Might be why they picked that number for the flight.

[@bandesj]

@@GWNorth-db8vn I think it's just coincidence.

[@Sashazur]

That is a coincidence, not irony. People often confuse them.

[@lipkinasl]

That's the sort of deliberate flight numbering jetblue do. Another example is flight 007 on the London route.

[@FloydODB]

I gotta ask why both pilots are talking with atc? Shouldn't 1 be flying and communicating and the other monitoring and running the check list? Seems unorganized

[@cruisinguy6024]

One pilot might be discussing with company so the other pilot picks up ATC calls

11:05 I'm guessing they were requesting a "FLIR" (a brand of thermal cameras) inspection.

[@YouCanSeeATC]

Probably you are right 👍

[@YouCanSeeATC]

Thank you 👍

[@TheSkypeConverser]

ADS-B please start reporting fuel in time and pounds

[@JimWhitaker]

Pounds? Really.

[@wadediscovery]

I agree nice if ADS-B would report international standard souls on board and fuel. Maybe coordinate with transponder settings for PAN and MAYDAY that when set would broadcast an entire packet of helpful information including hazardous cargo info, etc. Standardizing "minimum fuel" and "emergency fuel" and "out of fuel" would be helpful. Standardizing "WTF state of preparation for final approach are you right now" would help. Let me not miss this opportunity to also request more cameras on board, both internal and external, so pilots can assess whether the gear is down, engines still attached, engine trailing smoke, fluid pouring off wing, tail section still attached, etc. And maybe wingtip taxi clearance cameras as well. Smart cars have better external cameras than commercial aircraft, with fewer lives at risk ( or kilograms on board?). Pilots should not have to stop what doing and walk back to economy class to look out the window at the wing. Flight attendants should not have to wonder whether pilots know what is going on in the cabin and outside the plane or if they should break protocol and ping the cabin.

[@jamescollier3]

should be some database all the airlines feed.

[@1024det]

It was discovered the pilot ate some spicy chili before takeoff. Hence why he went to the restroom for so long.

[@WysteriaGuitar]

So, why did they go to JFK instead of back to LaGuardia?

[@mplarkvideo]

Why did they JFK?

[@kinghenry100]

Does the atc not already have souls on board info?

[@GH-oi2jf]

No.

[@highwayempire1]

Why'd they want JFK? Longer runway?

[@npal36]

Yes. JFK was designed for the NASA space shuttle to land there.

[@GH-oi2jf]

It was closer when they wanted to land.

[@bkmacd]

JFK is a JetBlue hub. Much better place to be for the passengers to get rebooked and the plane to be repaired.

[@kellyem33]

really poor comms. sloppy phraseology, uncoordinated cockpit, controller plus sup on freq, a weird one.

[@az.................]

Weird smell could've easily been a fume event related to the bleed air system a.k.a. aerotoxic syndrome. The telltale sign is the smell of dirty socks. Turbine oil requires organophosphates (a.k.a. pesticides) and once you start venting that into the cabin, bad things happen including potentially confusion and reduced cognition.

[@kellyem33]

@@az................. true,ive heard that stuff is super poisonous.

Controller+sup? Sounds like on-the-job training to me.

[@hankhulator5007]

Hi, there is clearly a big problem on phonic isolation between controllers at La Guardia. What I still don't understand is, almost everybody knows that a "strange smell" is _very_ often a "dirty socks smell" which is coming from a synthetic lubricant containing tricresyl phosphate that is a _very powerful neurotoxic_ that put a number of pilots and crew members directly in long (and definitive) hillness by killing their neurones by millions, to the point where several of them are depending on a life aid - so why are there still long checklists to make in such a case instead of landing as fast as possible on the closest runway as time is what could miss for the health of all ?

[@saxmanb777]

Because it’s better to have a bad smell even with possible nerve damage than end up a fire ball because we hurried to get the aircraft on the ground and missed several important steps to configure the aircraft and land safely.

[@hankhulator5007]

@@saxmanb777 My bad, I was not talking about regular checklists - visibly there was more than that here.

[@sparklawns3433]

What is going on with the techs at jfk? So many issues

[@Nath4n1977]

Strange sound: rumbling, popping, ripping sound Smell: rotten sulphur odor, vomit, dead carcass, a smell that would gag a maggot Source: FO's bottom Cause: 1 week expired beef rendeng that somehow did not get thrown out with the last batch

[@scottw5315]

Wait, I didn't think Airbus had emergencies? Bueller...

[@johnmknox]

Technically it's not an Airbus and the fault appears to have been with the Pratt & Witney engines.

[@GH-oi2jf]

They have their share, but they get little attention from the media. Boeing is under a microscope.

[@scottw5315]

@@johnmknox It's sarcasm my man but an A220 is not an Airbus?

[@Ndub1036]

Controllers just don’t understand how to handle emergencies so often

[@trainmagnet5845]

Controller- Are you ready to come in now- Pilot- No, Controller- okay let me know when ready, 10 seconds later, controller, are you ready to come in now. Why keep asking and bothering the pilots, when they are trying to run checklists, etc. Just vector them around, until they call back, for crying out loud. Disrupting their flow, only makes things worse, to where they may miss something, over an unnecessary question. Also, it always irks me, when they do not pass along the information to the next controllers, concerning souls and fuel. They need to do that, not ask the pilots every time, they talk to another controller. One more thing to bother the pilots with, instead of getting the plane on the ground safely.

[@aviskadeem]

these are cut down to save time, they showing the communication, and not the exact timing

[@craig7350]

what a dumb shlt that controller is!

[@Kenjamingraham]

Those A220 are just riddled with issues

[@colestock9980]

They say “bleed” problem, so my guess is it’s in the engine. The P&W GTF engines are just absolute piles of junk

[@fra93ilgrande]

@@colestock9980P&W truly went from "dependable" to disposable engines real quick 😅😂

[@aldousjosea.castro1887]

Still better than Boeing.

[@colestock9980]

@@aldousjosea.castro1887 classic.