Young Royals - S2E3 "Episode 3" - REACTION/REVIEW!

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Harry Allen

Harry Allen

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@bucksky619
@bucksky619 Жыл бұрын
You're exactly right about Marcus. Simon made his feeling very clear and Marcus basically wouldn't take no for answer.
@saraylpereira7018
@saraylpereira7018 Жыл бұрын
agree 100%
@maxgarete5435
@maxgarete5435 Жыл бұрын
I feel Simon could have been more specific (remember he said he wasn't ready for anything serious, while the truth was he was completely and seriously in love with someone else which is not the same) but then again he's very young and inexperienced and probably simply didn't know it will cause trouble when he's not completely honest. It takes quite a learning curve to be honest in relationships. Who learns that growing up, I sure didn't.
@82evene
@82evene Жыл бұрын
Wille is recreating the moment he had with Simon in his room when he'd lost his brother. Just as Simon tried to recreate the first kiss with Marcus watching a horror movie. Its funny to see how they use the same ways to see if its about the moment or the person.
@Frances86
@Frances86 Жыл бұрын
Very well said! I agree 100%
@cathymills4175
@cathymills4175 Жыл бұрын
Can you confirm if Simon was wearing Willie's sweater when he went to Marcus's ? It looked like it but I can't be sure. I've just watched all these series so I'm way behind everyone else. Thanks
@himynameisnickolas
@himynameisnickolas Жыл бұрын
I have a few thoughts on some of the things you brought up. 1 Marcus was totally gaslighting Simon into staying in the relationship. 2 I think a big part of what attracts Simon to Wilhelm is that more than anyone else at that school, Wille could totally be an elitist snob jerk like most of the others but he is the exact opposite. He is genuinely nice, kind, and caring and he doesn’t hold the same political, social, and moral ideals as his classmates. 3. I feel the big disconnect between Simon and Wilhelm this year is that Simon’s way of dealing with the hurt and pain is to try to avoid it. He distracts himself with Marcus, we tried to minimize his contact with Wilhelm, but Wille deals with his pain by living it. He’s in his emo boy sad phase and he doesn’t understand how Simon is not. He mistakes Simon’s avoidance of his feelings as him not having them which we all know is not true.
@Casin
@Casin Жыл бұрын
love point 3! Simon and Wille deal with their feelings in such different ways so they didn’t recognize how much the other was suffering.
@TroyDivision77
@TroyDivision77 Жыл бұрын
Your feelings on Markus were 100% my own. This was such a cringe situation. He basically told Simon not to trust his own feelings because of his family history trauma.
@diemarieell
@diemarieell Жыл бұрын
Harry, I love the way you talk to our boys like a caring father. You understand them on a level that many reactors miss out on and that makes watching your reactions truly valuable. If only they could hear you now and then... it would kind of keep them from a lot of trouble. You are any story writer's dream, as you get exactly what they intend to bring across with the show. Thank you for that 🥰 Thank you truly for being here for us to share our feelings this phenomenally emotional show, Harry.
@sabinest.235
@sabinest.235 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree re Marcus!!! I was just screaming "gaslighting!!!!" at the screen when he refused to listen to what Simon was trying to tell him.
@gerganakantcheva8176
@gerganakantcheva8176 Жыл бұрын
You're definitely not reading too much into the Marcus thing, headwriter Lisa Ambjörn herself said in a live on her social media that Marcus is manipulative. And yes, August is the only relative left from the Royal bloodline. The Queen doesn't have any siblings and she only had one cousin, August's dead father.
@SofiaBlomman
@SofiaBlomman Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that you see the manipulative side of Marcus. That scene at the stables either give people the reaction that you had, or they just go "aaaaw that's so sweet" and the latter just makes me want to scream haha. The gaslighting is crazy when you see it, but I guess the fact that some viewers actually fall for it shows how well Marcus is written.
@annikamackensen29
@annikamackensen29 Жыл бұрын
you are right! I personally did not see it in the beginning; I felt uncomfortable but could not really formulate why. I partly attribute that to the fact that as an "elder women" 😁 I/we have been raised to take this as nice behaviour when in fact it is blunt manipulation and gaslighting
@RedBanana_
@RedBanana_ Жыл бұрын
*Additional things I’ve noticed about Marcus:*  - Marcus and Simon are at *very* different points of their life, and while 16 and 18/19 isn’t a *massive* age gap, Simon lives with his mother, cannot drive and is a first-year (at the school that Marcus works with!!) and Marcus is almost finished with school, has a job, lives on his own and can drive. Marcus lives like a young adult (which he technically is) while Simon lives (and acts) like the teenager he is.  - Marcus *works with Hillerska.* He might not be a teacher but that doesn’t stop there from being an obvious power imbalance there, *especially* when you consider the lack of security cameras at the shooting range (by that I mean, Marcus could tell the teachers that Simon was there and being intentionally dangerous or something and who are they to tell him he’s making it up?)  - When Marcus and Simon went to karaoke together, first of all, Marcus flat out ignored Simon’s ‘no’s and basically was like “come on, we’re singing (whether you like or not)”. Then, when they actually got onto the stage Marcus completely clears up any doubt that anyone in that room had about Simon being the guy from the video when he introduces Simon as “Bjärstad’s own: Simon Eriksson”. Now it’s not Marcus and some guy singing together, it’s Marcus and *the Crown Prince’s ex* (whether Marcus intended it to come across like that or not). Edit: when I say Marcus ‘works *with* Hillerska’ I mean, as his parents rent out the stables and shooting range to Hillerska, he technically works alongside the Hillerska staff.
@Nelly-44
@Nelly-44 Жыл бұрын
Agreed... one correction Marcus works for his parents NOT the school .. they / his parents, own the stables, and the shooting range as well as rent land to the school. ( they offer the service to the school ) ... but there is a power imbalance indeed ( in his size, though not a noble or as wealthy as say Alexander Marcus is not from the same class as Simon, he also has way more experience . GREAT point though. about introducing him as “Bjärstad’s own: Simon Eriksson” I did not clock that .... But then again i was weary of him from the moment he entered Simon's room uninvited ...
@RedBanana_
@RedBanana_ Жыл бұрын
@@Nelly-44 I mean, realistically, while Marcus doesn’t directly work for the school (which, I phrased what I meant really badly) teachers definitely would take his word about what happens at the stables or shooting range because, let’s be honest, he’s probably treated like a proper adult because he works at the place they rent out, to tell him he’s making stuff up would be like going on a school trip (field trip??) to somewhere and then telling a worker that they must be making stuff up about the behaviour of their students.
@Dora-fi4lo
@Dora-fi4lo Жыл бұрын
I do love that you talk in your reactions, that you actually tell us about your thoughts. It’s very interesting to hear someone else’s perspective cuz sometimes you may notice something that we don’t. I’m like actually relaxing sitting and drinking my tea and watching the long video😌 Thank you so much for sharing this series with us 🤍
@LittleGirlOfSeven
@LittleGirlOfSeven Жыл бұрын
Marcus has been quietly after controlling Simon from the start and it becomes so obvious here. Everything is still very much on his terms. Simon tells him he's not after anything serious and Marcus not only ignores him but plants the idea that any problem or failure within the relationship is Simon's fault. Marcus clearly knows enough about Simon's situation to dig at his vulnerable points and use it to manipulate him. That hug makes me gag because it's all about Marcus congratulating himself for keeping Simon in check rather than anything caring in any way. He compounds it further after the rowing competition. They've barely been seeing each other for 3 weeks but Marcus dives in with a PDA as if they've been together 3 months. Gak!
@Nelly-44
@Nelly-44 Жыл бұрын
he is also asking Simon's friends about him... WHY Simon is not returning your calls TAKE THE HINT .... don't get his friends to campaign for you
@bridget5304
@bridget5304 Жыл бұрын
By this point, I’ve watched a lot of Young Royals reactions to both seasons, and as far as Marcus is concerned in this episode, you’ve given the best explanation/reaction to what is problematic and manipulative about his behavior with Simon. Everything about this episode made me feel really icky and quite weary of Marcus. Specifically when he started bringing up things about Micke and Wille - subjects that Simon hadn’t confided in him about - every warning bell was going off for me. As you said, he speaks as if he knows what’s better for Simon than he does. He doesn’t take him at his word that he’s not ready for anything right now - and that he won’t be. Instead he twists Simon’s intention, implying that he (Marcus) knows better how they should proceed in their relationship. And as you said, he touches him and acts in an intimate/loving way, which was prob quite confusing for Simon walking away from it. In particular, when Marcus says to him “you wouldn’t want to ruin something this beautiful,” I got really angry. By that point they really haven’t spent much time together at all, and they haven’t hit it off especially well. In fact, Marcus is more interested in secondhand information about Simon than he is getting to know him for himself. The best thing Marcus did was slow things down during the movie night - but every other physical moment between them was initiated by him - not Simon. In fact, Simon often looked quite uncomfortable and detached. Simon wasn’t giving any signs that he was in a position to date someone…and as the older person in the relationship with presumably more life experience, Marcus prob should have pulled back realizing they couldn’t/wouldn’t be on the same page anyway. And he certainly shouldn’t have pushed Simon for more when Simon tried to back out of things. Thank you for giving such thoughtful attention to discussing this in your reaction.
@suecoleman5947
@suecoleman5947 Жыл бұрын
Loving your insight & was very pleased you picked up on the manipulation by Marcus, he had my danger radar going off instantly with that scene & then again at the rowing the very next day. WTF!! Looking forward to seeing your reactions for the rest of the season. 👍🏻👏💕
@weirdparadox4976
@weirdparadox4976 Жыл бұрын
Hii! I love your commentaries!! Okay, to what I want to say... I 100% agree with you on Marcus. The statement that set me off was when he said "You don't want to destroy something this beautiful". That's the worst thing he could've said at that point bc of how vulnerable Simon was. Another thing that completely set me off and made me dislike Marcus even more, was at the boat tournament thing. Idk if you missed it, but when Marcus was congratulating Simon, he said something. "Don't worry, we'll get them next year". That just flipped me completely. He says it as if they'll last for that long, and it just shows that he knows exactly what he's doing and he's doing it anyway. I would've been less harsh if he was manipulating Simon unconsciously, but he knew what he was doing. And that makes me hate him. Also, willhem didn't fuck him over, the whole video situation did, and it affected BOTH of them. So yh... Marcus pissed me off. Again love your channel and I'm waiting on the next reaction 😊😊😄
@82evene
@82evene Жыл бұрын
and lets not forget that this 'something so beautiful' only been 2 dates so far.
@HarryAllen9
@HarryAllen9 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god that "next year" comment went straight over my head, the little weasel!
@weirdparadox4976
@weirdparadox4976 Жыл бұрын
@@82evene Tbvh
@lauraibarra901
@lauraibarra901 Жыл бұрын
YES! YES! AND YES!!! The whole kiss thing was annoying - like, let’s take it slow BUT let me kiss you in front of everyone here as if we’re a couple!! and then imply that WE are going to be here next year!!! He is a total weasel!!!
@Nelly-44
@Nelly-44 Жыл бұрын
rethat questionn of Why Simon loves Wilhelm - Wilhelm SEES him ...if we pay attention Wilhelm ALWAYS calls him Simon ( not Simmie, not a pet name ) Also, when Wilhelm looks at Simon he looks at his face, not his body even when they are half naked in the locker room . When Simon sings the thing he loves the most in this world Wilhelm gives his full attention . .... noting in this world beats being seen and understood
@mandipandi303
@mandipandi303 Жыл бұрын
Simon: "I'm not ready for a serious relationship. I don't think I'll ever be ready for a relationship with you (A.K.A even though we were never official, I'm breaking up with you)." Marcus: "I'm in no rush. We'll take things slow. (A.K.A I'm pretending to give you boundaries, but am, actually ignoring your desire to breakup)." The next day: Marcus kisses Simon in front of everyone without Simon's consent. I've seen literal therapists talk about about all the red flags Marcus gives off. Oddly enough, I'm sure Marcus is a good friend, but he is a BAD romantic partner. And just wait. I didn't hate the Felice thing as much on a 2nd viewing. You can tell how hesitant both of them are; like they aren't sure if they're feeling this. They were definitely overthinking everything. The same scene with Simon was mirrored almost exactly. It flowed so naturally. Like Simon and Wilhelm were caught up in the passion, knew exactly what they wanted to do, and their desire guided them. It was clear Felice and Wilhelm both kept thinking, "Do I want this? Is this weird?" Why am I doing this? Do I want this for the right reasons? I guess I might as well try. I trust Felice/Wilhelm." The kisses between Felice and Wilhelm alone are like these weird little unenthusiastic pecks. Totally different than Simon and Wilhelm's. •NO SPOILERS• The next episode also helped, albeit did make me a little mad at Wilhelm (though in an understandable way).
@lisecore
@lisecore Жыл бұрын
Interesting how some of the things you said tie up with the next episodes, you have such a great understanding of the characters and the situations they're in.
@Mia-kq6ml
@Mia-kq6ml Жыл бұрын
YES YOU GET IT!! marcus is...a big no. i dont wanna spoil anything for you but ill just say it gets better. cant wait for more reaction:))
@maxhess3151
@maxhess3151 Жыл бұрын
The self-absorption is real with Marcus. He's so good at grooming Simon I'm expecting Chris Hansen to show up any minute. As for August, it's entirely possible for him to be both an incorrigible narcissist and a wonderful boyfriend, as long as being a wonderful boyfriend serves to boost his ego. The problem is that he doesn't genuinely value love (romantic or humanistic) enough to make real sacrifices. It's not that narcissists can't do the right thing, but it's just as easy for them to justify doing the wrong thing.
@maddiebarker4643
@maddiebarker4643 Жыл бұрын
I think you're spot on with Marcus. You put in to words what I was sensing from the whole interaction with Marcus. My gut feeling was just "hell no", but I couldn't really explain it
@iwminou7477
@iwminou7477 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy and appreciate your reactions sooo much! You just get the show and its characters on a much deeper level than most and this is very rewarding and refreshing! Thanks for that, can't wait for more from you! I am so happy to have KZbin and this "reaction-community" to share my feelings with, it feels lonely sometimes to get lost in a show (or book) that nobody else knows or appreciates as much as I do... 😍
@yeahjoanna
@yeahjoanna Жыл бұрын
The Swedish expression "sosse" means social democrat (but has been translated to socialist to make the point clearer I guess, I dunno of it's workikg tho) - when used by upper class ppl, it's definitely like a slur meaning like "poor" or "middle class" or maybe in some cases, overly idealistic? (for a long time, the social democrats ruled Sweden due to their popularity, so the upper class and especially nobility developed a strong hate towards "sossar", using it in many derogatory ways).
@yeahjoanna
@yeahjoanna Жыл бұрын
So when other people use "sosse" it might NOT be a slur, it all depends on context. In season 1 and 2, both Simon and the therapist are called "sosse" by the boarders at Hillerska I think.
@holmesian5588
@holmesian5588 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This whole show I've been saying to myself what does that word "socialist" mean to them? As an American, I could tell the true meaning/nuance wasn't coming across.
@Dora-fi4lo
@Dora-fi4lo Жыл бұрын
Oh and I agree with you about Markus. The moment I saw that scene - it was over. I was so annoyed and mad at the same time. Like, excuse me mister??? Bringing up his dad in that conversation was the biggest red flag. Very inappropriate. And also the touching and behavior overall. It’s like he almost said to Simon “you don’t understand yourself, I know better don’t worry”. huh???🤡 And Simon made it clear he didn’t want to be in a relationship rn and Markus was just like “meh idgf” 🙄 Yeahh it’s a NO for me
@WhatsGnat
@WhatsGnat Жыл бұрын
I'm SO glad I wasn't the only one finding the Marus scene manipulative. And totally agree it was out of pocket for him to bring up Simon's family situation
@aster_11
@aster_11 8 ай бұрын
Even from the minute where Marcus and Simon met I had an uncomfortable feeling. You can't just walk into someone's house, hear singing, decide to wander around into someone else's bedroom. If I'd been there I would've kicked him out immediately, the audacity
@jenniferbrinks6552
@jenniferbrinks6552 Жыл бұрын
I think one thing Simon love about Wilhelm is that he is who he is despite that not being who he should be. It’s almost like he’s a rose that grew int he cracking a sidewalk. And his very existence is proof that some things are just inherently good. I know that’s a confusing statement so I’ll explain. They are at a school where the elites go. And all those elites act the way they’d supposed to. They wield their wealth and power like weapons on anyone they view as beneath them. Then one day the freaking prince shows up. And he is so elite that he makes all those rich snobs feel inferior. He has all the social power to reduce everyone to mere peasants. But he doesn’t do that. Despite being raised a Prince, he wants nothing more than to just be a normal person. He never asks to be treated any different (until he starts to exact his revenge on August) and he’s kind and excepting to everyone despite that fact that he should be the worst of the worst.
@jacquiehahn4910
@jacquiehahn4910 Жыл бұрын
2 things. Yes, Marcus is creepy. I wonder if he isn't suddenly there because Simon now has "celebrity" caché. Anyway, he gives of bunny-boiler vibes, and I don't like him. And Sara/August! He really does like/want/need her. She makes him a better person, at least while she's in the room. She gets him. She doesn't judge him (she bloody should!). She tries SO hard to get him to do the right thing, and I honestly think he wants to, for her. Unfortunately his insecurities make him a compulsive shitbag.
@darktwistedlady
@darktwistedlady Жыл бұрын
The queen just roped August into a decade of being a backup in order to use the threat of him to manipulate Wille. August having his entire future derailed is the court's extrajudicial punishment for posting revenge porn of Wille and Simon.
@chelseahoma487
@chelseahoma487 Жыл бұрын
Love this video! Episode 3 was intense and shocking but you said exactly what I was feeling, esp about Marcus being maniuplative. Keep it up ❤
@kayisfish
@kayisfish Жыл бұрын
Marcus the manipulator! He gives me the ick. He doesn't listen to Simon at all. Also...that kiss at the rowing thing...yeah we all hated that. Edvin and Omar were both exceptional this season. They all were, really. We were all the same during the Felice and Wille scene...I was fully yelling at my TV
@wenyaliini
@wenyaliini Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those people who didn't realise at first how manipulative Markus is. It was obvious as soon as I saw comments like this video, and it scares me a bit that I didn't see it at first. What I concluded on the first viewing was that Markus obviously had done plenty of background work. He had probably seen Simon in the public eye and formed a crush based on whatever image he had formed in his head way before even talking to Simon. So he has this fantasy of them being together, and when Simon shows any kind of interest towards him, he latches on to that fantasy where they're on their way to live a happily ever after. I'm sure that kind of thought process easily leads to manipulation, and honestly that's what I should have realised right away, instead of feeling just a bit sorry for this fanboy who gets his hopes up for nothing. I'm glad there's great analysis like yours to be found online that broaden my thinking :)
@Nelly-44
@Nelly-44 Жыл бұрын
I think unless you have been in certain situations the signs would have been easy to miss. I was triggered the moment he entered Simon's room without knocking .. he didn't stay in the hallway he walked all the way through the laundry area. .. at the Karaoke I was thinking DID HE NOT HEAR HIM SAY NO !!!!!! ... when Marcus said he heard about the video but didn't watch it SIR stop with the lies
@Shiraiame
@Shiraiame Жыл бұрын
This episode took me from being okay with Simon exploring things with Marcus, to me actively disliking Marcus as a creepy manipulator. It might be because I grew up in a manipulative family, but that whole scene just gave me the ick.
@82evene
@82evene Жыл бұрын
Marcus is just a big red flag. Simon tells him down right he doesn't want anything serious, he manipulates him in the worst low hit way to stay with him and establishes himself as a bf in public from there on. Showing up in public for 'support', kissing him in front of Wille and later even telling his Mom about them being together (minor spoiler). I just don't like him. I adore how well Omar played Simon's helplessness with it though. You can tell he's uncomfortable but doesn't know how to break it.
@jenniferbrinks6552
@jenniferbrinks6552 Жыл бұрын
Once I saw the conversation when Simon told Marcus he wasn’t ready for a serious relationship, I went back and watched their other interactions and there are red flags with every one of them. That’s pretty typical for abusers- the red flags are so subtle that you don’t see them at first. It’s only in hindsight that you see what they were.
@Gkwilson1487
@Gkwilson1487 Жыл бұрын
Also, you’re right about monarchy being like a company. That’s why the British monarch refers to itself as The Firm haha.
@82evene
@82evene Жыл бұрын
August was on a good path this episode. Stripped off his status he seems to come down, lets the pill be pills, be less ignorant and actually even defend Simon. And he's really sweet with Sara. And next this offer brings him back to his old track. I guess its all he knows, as clearly his Mom gives a shit. Its actually sad, thinking about it.
@darktwistedlady
@darktwistedlady Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that Wille wanted Simon to stay on the rowing team, because Simon specifically mentioned the rowing when he said they could talk. So it's a lifeline for Wille to stay in touch, so he made Simon cheat with him so they'd stay on the team together. Wille sounded quite petulent when Simon pointed his privileges out to him, an immature reaction on having the negative consequences of Wille's selfish behaviour explained. He needs to get a grip and listen to Simon, because every single one of his selfish choices hurt Simon.
@kimpetras458
@kimpetras458 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, but if a guy that I'm starting to date but I don't want to start a romantic relationship starts saying, "I know you don't want to destroy something so beautiful" I would disappear from his life. Indeed this was very uncomfortable and manipulative to watch.
@linnea547
@linnea547 Жыл бұрын
Loved this react. 100% yes about Marcus. Red flaggggs. I’ll save my comments about Felice until you’ve watched episode 4! 😊
@Rmldmld
@Rmldmld Жыл бұрын
You are so great reading the series. New subscriber here❤❤❤❤ keeep the good work
@mariabrechin
@mariabrechin Жыл бұрын
i love editing harry. the second ‘rousseau’ you did was quite good! also you are not overreacting, marcus is horrible and i need him away from simon immediately.
@CorpseCourture
@CorpseCourture Жыл бұрын
ok this is just after i have watched episode 2, i will come back with my opinion on marcus after watching episode 3 because i see alot of comments about him...right now my opinion of marcus is that he is really sweet and i love him and simons relationship my current thoughts- 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
@Grumpybear_Grumpybear
@Grumpybear_Grumpybear Жыл бұрын
No you’re right about Marcus even Lisa the director said for that scene Marcus is supposed to look manipulative
@heklaeir
@heklaeir Жыл бұрын
absolutely agree with everything you said about marcus
@darylridingamotorcycle666
@darylridingamotorcycle666 Жыл бұрын
hi harry! so i wanted to recommend u a series that i think u would really like, it’s called Merlí which aired in 2015 on netflix and it’s based in Barcelona, spain its not in spanish though, it’s in catalán, idk if it did well where u live but it was really famous at the time in argentina which is where i am from. i think there’s no one that reacted to this series and it’s so good i love it. The series is about a philosophy professor MERLÍ who encourages his students to think freely through unorthodox methods, which will divide the opinions of the class, teachers and families. it’s really interesting and entertaining to watch like the relationship beetwen the characters and the things they learn from each other and the topics they talk about. hope u check it out!
@darylridingamotorcycle666
@darylridingamotorcycle666 Жыл бұрын
idk i was just rewatching it and it just came to my mind that harry would really like this series… also in my country season 1 it’s not available and there’s only season 2 and 3 available now but idk maybe in the uk all seasons are still there😢
@mazvirataaja9397
@mazvirataaja9397 Жыл бұрын
11:40 "not trying to move on" meanwhile simon in the next episode: "I'm just trying to move on"
@EmberC
@EmberC Жыл бұрын
No spoilers
@mazvirataaja9397
@mazvirataaja9397 Жыл бұрын
@@EmberC It is a quote by Simon. Is he saying it to Marcus, his friends, Sara, Wilhelm, Felice, someone else? who could say? I don't think my coment is reveling anything specifick.
@EmberC
@EmberC Жыл бұрын
@@mazvirataaja9397 it is from the next episode, so, it is spoilery
@deelalley5039
@deelalley5039 Жыл бұрын
100% agree on Marcus. He acts like they are much closer than they are. They’ve only just met and he acts like they’ve been together for months. It’s beyond creepy. Also if someone says “I don’t want this” you back off. I’m interested to see more on how you feel about Sara. I feel like most people forget that she’s on the spectrum and therefore doesn’t have the same logic or emotional reactions one might expect. I love that they made August more complicated and human. The truth is that very few people are just 100% bad. But he is the embodiment of entitlement. In episode one he says they could kill someone’s and get away with it. The idea that there can be repercussions for actions is just beyond him. I love your reactions and your thoughtful discussions ❤
@mazvirataaja9397
@mazvirataaja9397 Жыл бұрын
Just wait for the next episode. It is soo interesting Best episode of the season
@dank4055
@dank4055 Жыл бұрын
So Marcus is the one who wanted to take it slow during their Netflix and No Chill date. Since Marcus is friends with Sarah how much did she tell Marcus about the dad issue? I don't know if Marcus intends to be manipulative or if he is modeling learned behavior. This series is very good at making you change your mind about characters the more you learn about them.
@gerganakantcheva8176
@gerganakantcheva8176 Жыл бұрын
Marcus said his mom told him about Simon's dad, Marcus's mom is friends with Simon's mom.
@jenniferbrinks6552
@jenniferbrinks6552 Жыл бұрын
The ‘taking it slow’ from Marcus was a manipulation. He knew that Simon was only there for a booty call and he knew the relationship wouldn’t go any further than the physical if he didn’t stop it.
@RammerHammer
@RammerHammer Жыл бұрын
I tried to give Marcus the benefit of the doubt, but after the shit he pulled in this episode I just can't. He's manipulative and spiteful and it's clear that he's not only trying to piss off Wilhelm, but also that he's trying pit Wilhelm and Simon against each other. August is a really hard case for me. While on a fundamental level I can understand that he's human and he derves happiness and compassion, I can't bring myself to feel bad for him because there hasn't been any consequences to the shit he did to Wille and Simon. In the aftermath, he got together with Sara, got his full tuition paid off by the queen, and has been offered the title of Crown Prince. It's not fair. What you said about Wille and Felice was exactly my thoughts; I'm so sick of the TV trope where the male and female lead HAVE to get together at some point. Just let them be friends.
@borkata6969
@borkata6969 Ай бұрын
istg sara and august are the most unexpected ship ever
@KIMKAISOOBH
@KIMKAISOOBH Жыл бұрын
Marcus manipulated simon
@jenniferbrinks6552
@jenniferbrinks6552 Жыл бұрын
I love you soooooooooo much!! I knew you would get why Marcus is an issue. I knew you would get it.
@jenniferbrinks6552
@jenniferbrinks6552 Жыл бұрын
Someone else pointed out to me, and now I 100% believe it, that Marcus targeted Simon as almost like an ego boost. Like he was going to get the guy who broke up with a prince. And like I said, I believe that. I think that’s why he went into Simon’s room in the first episode.
@drshaza2682
@drshaza2682 4 ай бұрын
I think william was poor here no body understands hos situation even his love what is wrong about waiting for your loved one two years you are still ao damn young Why he only asked you to wait not to hide forevwr
@openedtodiscussion
@openedtodiscussion Жыл бұрын
Wille sees Simon with another person. So I get why he thinks he is moving on. I feel Simon blames Wille systematically this season, very unfairly, and it makes me mad. I had the same red flags about Marcus using intimate subject. He is intrusive I feel, and doesn't listen to Simon. I am surprised that Felice goes with the kiss, because she sees he is desperate for Simon. I liked powerless August....now he has power again, supported by the royal court. Not cool.
@Nelly-44
@Nelly-44 Жыл бұрын
Simon blames Wille systematically this season, very unfairly, and it makes me mad... i would really like someone to explain this ( not being sarcastic). But i didn't see this at all ?
@nessava
@nessava Жыл бұрын
thank you for your reaction! 🤍 and about marcus omfg you are so right about everything i was soooo disappointed in him after this episode, absolutely agree with you, he is nothing more but literal manipulations and red flags, at first i found him cute and was okay with him but not after this, the moment he mentioned Simon's father made me so furious and about ruining friendships between genders again agree 100%!!! i was so sad and frustrated after that scene, it all felt so wrong but thankfully they've managed everything beautifully, + some explanations and analysis for the scene made a lot of sense for the meaning behind it
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