"YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice

Michael Malice (“YOUR WELCOME”) welcomes badass mom, political activist, and social commentator, Lauren Southern, onto the show to talk about how traditionalism can cause a detachment from reality, how trust is often manipulated when you’re in an unhealthy relationship, and why moving back to Canada can actually be a very good thing.
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[@MichaelMaliceofficial]

Lauren took questions from supporters exclusively at malice.locals.com/post/5690260/lauren-took-your-questions

[@nealorr5086]

Did anyone ask: Lauren, are you dishonest or just stupid regarding Trad Marriages?

[@redmuskratt]

This video even came with an ad to buy a Ukrainian wife. Sweet.

[@pablowentscobar]

Damn, the one time adblock screwed me.

[@redmuskratt]

@@pablowentscobar tip of the hat. I like your style.

[@notanotherguitarchannel]

Canadian. She is Canadian.

[@amylynnhunt55]

I only get 200 ads for Instacart. I do know a real life Ukrainian wife though. She's one of the most delightful surprises ever.

[@christianpethukov8155]

You mean the ads for "beautiful SLEEH-vic ladies?" 😄

[@themk4982]

It’s really wholesome how you deal with your guests. From the start of the podcast you were talking to her like a human being and letting her talk about what she felt like given the recent stresses she’s been going through. Way too often people say ‘my friend’ and they don’t mean it at all, thank you for being so genuine and kind.

[@streglof]

Sargon didn't snipe at Lauren. He did a very nuanced piece on her situation and the idea of trad wives broadly.

[@botidobra6221]

Conservatism/tradition is dead. Marxism/transhumanism or anti-tech revolution.There is no third option. You can't have your cake and eat it

[@infmda4365]

Malice is a SIMP for her...

[@nealorr5086]

@@infmda4365 From the evidence we have to this point, you're a simp for Carl.

[@infmda4365]

@@nealorr5086 I didn't mention "Karl". Stop SIMPing you SIMP.

[@infmda4365]

@@nealorr5086 I didn't mention "Carl". You did...

[@YellowFellow86]

She strikes me as more of a centeist feminist instead of traditional conservative, which is fine...but if thats the case why not just be a centrist feminist?

[@Kevin_Knox]

Because she's a grifter...

[@BIGARMADA1988]

I don't know what was said on twitter between these two, but TheQuartering's video on the Furiosa movie bombing had nothing to do with it being woke or not, it was because people have been fed so many bad girl boss movies, they now think that any action movie with a female lead is going to be woke. Something tells me Lauren's not being truthful about what she and Jeremy were arguing about.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yeah I rock with critical drinker and a few others but their ideology is really warping their views on movies. I’m just beyond bored of the entire discussion around this I’m honestly shocked that Furiosa bombed though.. fury Road was great and this looks just as good.. folks just don’t want to spend too much on the theater experience I reckon..?

[@Rellikan]

I think Southern might misunderstand. It's a description of people'a attitude towards female leads. Because so many female lead movies are garbage in the past 10 years, people have given up and no longer want to pay money to watch female lead upcoming movies. It's a bet that this time, this female lead movie is going to be garbage.

[@FerrisMcLauren]

"looks just as good". You didnt watch it and you have an opinion?!

[@hardbrocklife]

@@brianmeen2158 no, what they were criticizing was not that it was a girl boss movie in a typical sense, but that it was a movie with a female main character In a movie called MAD MAX where there was no Mad Max. This is what made it a "girl boss" movie. Taylor-Joy wasn't necessarily written as a girl boss, but because she was a subversion from expectations. Why wouldn't it bomb? Its no difference perception wise than Rise of Skywalker. Use a name associated with a female hero to promote their male replacement. Furiosa wasnt a Mary Sue, but the context around the movie sure painted it as the next girl boss movie.

[@hardbrocklife]

Why would she be truthful. Lauren Southern has only been truthful when it improved her social relevence to a group she was receiving funding from.

[@iansmith8783]

I'll not have you speak ill of sexism in this house young lady, nor of my old pal, Tom Woods

[@LaurenSouthernOfficial]

😂😂😂

[@TickleMeChelmno]

Hey Lauren, I have influence…you wanna…ya know…at my place? Hehe

[@JMyers79]

Even in relationships that may lead to marriage and after well into marriage: Trust, but verify. Communication is important. Differences are important. Opposites may attract, but they don't stay together happily anymore. Find someone with your vibe and political affiliation especially.

[@NerdlySquared]

No one has the magic 100% success scanner and people don’t stay hermetically sealed in their current state at first meeting. At best, you can increase your chances based on concrete compatibility, communication, or etherial “vibes”, there are no guarantees, not for trads, real or role playing, not for anyone.

[@ffnovice7]

J Myers thank you. Trust but verify, seems like words to cling to as I'm navigating a late bloom dating field. It's not easy but it's not as bad as it seems online.

[@miramichi30]

The problem with finding someone of your political affiliation is that in the younger generation there is only one woman for every two men on the right.

[@ericsimkins]

Wow. I wasn’t expecting this from the interview. Listened while doing housework and was actually quite blessed. As a single father who went through a painful divorce, the raw humanity here reminded was refreshing. I can’t even imagine being a public figure. You’re both awesome people. No really. Not just on the internet.

[@LaurenSouthernOfficial]

Good for your man - any parent doing it alone deserves some serious kudos. Your kids are blessed to have you. Life’s complicated, very few of us have it all figured out from the get go. Stay strong!💪🏻

[@brianmeen2158]

Agree. With the way people online obsess over the tiniest little mistakes that creators make I can’t imagine being in that space.

[@mihai6400]

This lady is a crazy baby trapping hueour, not a model for you. Do your honework

[@Aspectt1991]

@@LaurenSouthernOfficial Tbh I dont know how you deal with a comment section like this one. I think I would go insane being a public figure and dealing with stuff like this lmao. People just making shit up non stop.

[@WMMASceneNow]

Let me guess: Lauren falling for a fed honey trap was never brought up

[@TickleMeChelmno]

Neither was your mention of his race

[@mihai6400]

Steven Bonell's aborted child with her wasn't brought up

[@WMMASceneNow]

@@TickleMeChelmno I literally said he’s a fed

[@pika3094]

ca. 20:00 They talked about her divorce.

[@BlyGuy]

What was the fed honey trap she fell for?

[@Inshokuten69]

I've followed Lauren off and on for a long time, agree with her on a lot, disagree with her on other things just like any other person. She's right in that the online trad lifestyle thing isn't really an accurate representation of what it was really like. That being said some of the things she's said about her recent abusive relationship are really correct either. At 19:10 she is describing her situation and how it ended but described it as embracing trad life... only it wasn't embracing trad life, even the online ideal version of it being bandied about. In no way shape or form did she embrace trad life, she fell into a manipulative abusive relationship with a pos scumbag. Using her situation as an example of trad life failing, even in an individual personal situation, just isn't accurate.

[@ZombieLicorice]

Marries Australian government spook. Pikachu face when he is an unhinged manipulative sociopath

[@elus89]

I agree that her example is not good of trad-life failing. It may have more to do with her trad mindset not matching her actual lifestyle. She is very free-spirited and low long-term commitment oriented. Her adhd allowed her into this relationship without vetting. I think with the right guy it could have worked, but the right guy might never have been attracted to her in the way she lived.

[@ffnovice7]

I've only recently realized that what I had assumed was mild autism in my 20s was actually adult onset ADHD

[@carolyna.869]

I agree with you. Her husband sounds like a disaster. And she doesn't have ADHD which is total BS. She was just raised in a messed up era in which doctors want to pathologize the human experience and make a buck at any cost.

[@Mattribute]

She objects to people saying “You should have married a better man.” If she really, really cared about young women, she would say “Yes. I should have, but I did not know how to tell the difference.” Telling young women that there’s little way to know, so they should have a backup plan is toxic poison. Young women can reject bad men if they know what to look for; things like if he tells the truth, even when against his lower preference, but due to his honor.

[@Theresa3267]

“Better options” is what you get in the first year of a relationship. People don’t understand that marriage is not new love. It’s your family. But people don’t make effort in their family relationships anymore either, so here we are

[@nigelwilliams8191]

My ex went for "better options" and got black eyes, bruises and an empty bank account, guess that's a strange version of better but hey, I'm free from her bullshit.

[@hbsurferguy311]

Every trad relationship I know is doing very well with some married 8 years now. Maybe they wont last with more time but that's just my anecdotal experience. Lauren is an e celeb whos marriage failed. Almost any woman who wants to be KZbin famous is not going to surprise me when having a trad family doesn't work out

[@CigEconomy]

It likely more has to do with the fact that she allegedly fucked tons of dudes in the RW space leading up to her "trad" marriage.

[@Chris-jr2nu]

Nearly everyone near where my wife is form is in a "trad relationship", out of what, 30+ couples happily married ive met, 1 was abused, sure it happens but when your a youtuber im sure abusers seek you out, and plus he was a fed his mission was probably torpedo her.

[@bradmcmahon3905]

I am a 45 yr. old man, who has been happily married to the love of his life for 15 years now. I am blessed, and this is a fact. It is also a fact that none of this would have been possible if I had decided to remain a dead-man-sinking and suffocating in the miserable quicksand that was MY FIRST marriage. Let it also be known, that a very important part of these past 15 years, are maybe 2 or 3 pretty bad ones. Thank you guys for this crucial discussion. I believe that many in our age group (and younger) needed to hear this. …Remember: HAVE COMPASSION!!! WE HAD TO LOOK TO THE BOOMERS FOR ADVICE ON MARRIAGE!!! (That’s like asking a homeless vagrant for investment strategies….)

[@oj5218]

Loved this! 2 mature human beings having mature conversations with lots of laughter.

[@Anthony_Larme]

Lauren first announced her divorce in a video a year ago. That video has since been removed from this website. She re-announced her divorce in a written interview about a month ago. This is the first public video where she mentions it following the written article. We have yet to hear from her ex husband in any capacity apart from a letter he allegedly sent to "The Rational Male" (who read some of it on stream) a year ago. It is possible he cannot speak up due to legal and security clearance issues. Lauren often states that she is fearful he will present his side at some point (to her detriment), but this has not happened to date.

[@neitsytmaria6401]

It was lauren and brittany venti who sent that letter to tomassi pretending to be laurens ex husband. They were just trolling rollo to expose him as the liar he is

[@ZombieLicorice]

Lauren continuing to cope over marrying a fed, and reaping the consequences

[@amylynnhunt55]

Do I want to ask about him being a Fed??

[@user-og6hl6lv7p]

This. I have no idea what possessed her into thinking it was a good idea to get knocked up and marry someone who job is to diminish and obfuscate your political beliefs. Such a monumentally stupid decision on her part. I mean I've been with many leftist chicks, but not once did I think "Yeh I'm going to marry this woman who is completely against my core values".

[@miramichi30]

The question I'd love to have the answer for is whether or not she was actually targeted by the five eyes.

[@cerealport2726]

@@amylynnhunt55 Supposedly something to do with the Australian federal police, but it could be any number of aussie federal agencies, could also just be a normal public servant...

[@drgoremd]

I don't really understand the argument being made. She literally says she didn't have a "trad marriage" and that she had "boyfriends" before marriage, that she worked outside of the home and travelled all around the world. In what way does that qualify her to comment on the idea of traditional marriage?

[@elus89]

You didn't listen. She did "try" to have a trad lifestyle. She shut down online for a couple years. She gave up the boyfriend lifestyle. Her marriage was kind of doomed from the start because the man she married was truly awful and manipulative. Maybe her previous lifestyle is what attracted this type of controlling man to her, but I don't see her as to blame for the trad life failing.

[@payleryder45]

@@elus89 Yeah, this ain't it. She embraced every social pathology for years and then turned a switch and everything wasn't perfect? Go figure.

[@danarchism-dissident]

​@@elus89 Going offline is not the magic bullet to living a "trad" life. She spent every moment in a life and career that was incongruent with what she allegedly expected her marriage to be, and since you can't just flip a switch and match action with rhetoric, she blames an idea and approach to marriage that she never actually engaged in.

[@troll_kin9456]

She also cited her upbringing and community. It wasn't just her marriage that didn't work out. An ideology that can't cope with the diversity of human circumstances is a failure.

[@discohospital]

Hearing an anarchist comfort someone coping about tradlife is awkward af.

[@Helminthis]

😂real

[@MorganMindfulness]

When I hear Lauren talk about Trad Life as wanting a secured outcome at 22:41 I am reminded of the Rolo May quote about The opposite of courage in our society being confirmatory as opposed to cowardice. People want something they can conform to to feel secure, I hear echos of the people who went to college and couldn't get a good job and are now mad that they were promised a good job if they just went to college.

[@jkrofling9524]

They were promised by someone that SOMEONE ELSE would give them a good job. Seems legit...

[@jasond1500]

What's surprising to me is Lauren mentioning how bullet points or listicle she was when it came to being a "trad" wife. I think traditional values and roles are good and that's what I want too but there has to be a lot of flexibility and helping each other too. Like you have a migraine and cramps alright go take a nap I'll make dinner and sweep the floors. By the sound of it her ex wasn't really on board & it would have failed trad or not so you can't really blame a relationship style for that.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Not too much flexibility, because that's when roles become so blurred it causes more draining confusion than is necessary. It's good to negotiate the tasks/labor, commit to it, don't play games to avoid personal responsibility ( real cramps vs "i don't feel good" ), basically be humble, loving and adult about it. Emphasis on negotiate + commit + loving + adult.

[@ltsiver]

His use of ultimatums is backing up your point.

[@MrHejke]

Lauren, to be fair, you never were a trad wife

[@alimcgregor3669]

I think it’s easier for her to think that the trad life was the problem instead of getting screwed by a FED whose intention from the start was to blow up her career and entire life.

[@Millersmeaning]

@@alimcgregor3669im confused about the honeypot idea. Her husband was he honeypot? The feds devised a plan to make her fall in love and marry her, have kids, and then do the long con of being unreasonable and controlling in order destroy her life from the inside out?

[@philbridges3033]

Whole lotta sammiches not getting made 😮‍💨

[@briansimerl4014]

"Just as bad". Equal on both sides? Lauren's losing what little stock she had.

[@FazeParticles]

She’s a mad woman at this point. She better shape up and stop being naive. Happiness is not the goal. A thriving economy is the goal. Everything grows from that even families.

[@briansimerl4014]

@@FazeParticles her little narcissistic gaze into herself just shows her lack of journalistic chops. Making herself the story.

[@signa8]

After Lauren defended Hillary Crowder, she had become someone I really didn't want to hear from, because I could tell she was using emotional reasoning and not logical. But since hearing how much awful shit she's had to put up with behind the scenes, I understand her pain. She's damaged by that monster she married, and I can only hope she works things out in the end. The world isn't like her experience, and anyone similar deserves all the condemnation everyone can put toward them.

[@inthefade]

Jeremy was describing the current state of movies and the sentiment of viewers and Lauren took it as him promoting the idea that we shouldn't have female leads in action movies. It was a dumb argument.

[@IOSALive]

Michael Malice, I subscribed because your videos are super cool!

[@BlackhaloZ]

Even well written women will bomb in movies after so, so, many badly written ones. And a Mad Max movie, without Mad Max, is the kiss of death, even if it's actually a good movie.

[@scalp340]

Lol! The barbie movie last year made like a billion dollars.

[@Perfect.Imperfect]

Maybe, because it wasn't named "Barbie : a Ken saga" ?

[@nealorr5086]

@@Perfect.Imperfect You win the Internet for the day, and the fact that your comment doesn't have many more upvotes indicates that Michael may be shooting a little high when he calls his viewers midwits.

[@scalp340]

@@Perfect.Imperfect so people didn't watch it because they were confused by the title of the movie, that's what you are going with?

[@---...---...---...---...]

Honestly the market for strong female lead is just over-saturated, its great once in a while but when its every single action movie, no thanks.

[@clarkrocks13]

How long did Lauren vet her guy before getting married?

[@TickleMeChelmno]

She was too busy sleeping with the entire right wing media sphere. She divorced him because she couldn’t wait to get back to it

[@hardbrocklife]

She was dating and sleeping with him for 4 months lol

[@DaedalusHelios]

She knew he was a Fed, too. Her picker is broken.

[@CigEconomy]

It's OUR FAULT for pressuring her into settling down after she hoed around her entire youth

[@clarkrocks13]

From these replies, it sounds like she wasn’t doing “trad” things and tried to change it into a “trad” relationship/marriage. And then was surprised it didn’t work.

[@thomasshone2488]

Another reason movies are bombing at the moment is that people came out of the pandemic with such a culture shock they realised the whole 'movie culture' was now outside their cultural sphere. Couple that with the bad writing and backlash to elitism.

[@AngryVet44]

Movie culture?? Bad writing and elitism? DUDE, 4 tickets is $82!! Popcorn and drinks is $60 $142 TO GO TO THE MOVIES!! 🙄 WHO HAS THAT KIND OF MONEY ANYMORE?? When you can stay home and get Netflix FOR A WHOLE MONTH FOR 1/10th OF THAT!!!

[@brianmeen2158]

Doesn’t help that movies come out pretty soon on streaming - these days we don’t have to wait after it hits theaters that long to watch it in our living room

[@thomasshone2488]

@@AngryVet44 well done, you have added yet another reason ontop of my own.

[@grimhammer00]

Movies and media in general do steer culture. But, culture also gives media its relevance.

[@alejandromolinac]

Huh? I was avoiding theaters due to crappy movies, smug condescending “stars” and obnoxious piles of pudding eating greasy food next to me..::: WAY BEFORE COVID…..

[@notloki3377]

the desire for total control comes from a deep sense of shame and a percieved lack of control from the past.

[@jeremy5077]

My favorite real life encounter was the guy who found Tucker Carlson fishing. Guy thought he found a real monster in the wild.

[@DestructoDisk]

Feminist explains why she broke up her family and how traditionalism is bad actually. Cant find this content anywhere else.

[@thomasshepard9149]

Dude is an anarchist and complains actual movements doing actual things are reactionary. Both these people are a bore

[@brianmeen2158]

@@thomasshepard9149 Michael’s anarchy ideology is pretty stupid - he’s a smart guy so I’m surprised he would support and promote it

[@theunknownatheist3815]

@@brianmeen2158yeah, it’s ridiculous. It’s actually a kind of religious belief actually. It’s a faith based position. “Anarchy” of any type, left or right WILL NEVER HAPPEN! Does he think the Gov will just pack up and go away? And if they did go away, some other group of people will take power by force and you’ll end up with a de facto Gov you didn’t vote for. He’s seemingly too intelligent for this crap. I don’t get it.

[@jkrofling9524]

@@thomasshepard9149 He's trolling you.

[@jkrofling9524]

@@brianmeen2158 He's trolling you.

[@hallucinus3523]

thank you, michael. i kinda used to like lauren before this interview, now i cant stand her! shes as genuine as ann coulter.

[@CJB333]

This is what I like about you Michael and what you bring that others don't when it comes down to it. Too many think they'll never devolve to tribalism and picking some side before even asking simply what actually is going on but you consistently don't. It's refreshing to have that to expect when you see someone's take.

[@nealorr5086]

The reason that Furiosa is not doing well at the box office is *BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT HAPPENS* She gets stolen from the women living in "the green place" which will later become a dead swamp. She rises through the ranks become a trusted lieutenant of Andrew Tate with a wig and a face mask, and at some point along the way she loses an hand. A much more interesting prequel that would have brought in Mad Max fans as well as the Social Justice women (though not many of them) would be Auntie Entity.

[@xokelis0015]

I'm pretty glad that this Feminist finally showed her true colors. She had a lot of people fooled for a long time, but in the end no one can keep the facade going forever. Take her seriously at your own risk.

[@socalledchaos8139]

Her movie take is spot on !! in the 80's ... female leads where better written ...fact!

[@FerrisMcLauren]

dot dot dot

[@troll_kin9456]

Motivation is usually a problem for modern female action leads. Going forth for gold or glory is a very male motivation. Female protagonists work better when they're fighting for their lives and retreat isn't an option, or when they're defending their families and they can't rely on someone else. A lot of people will cite Ripley as a great female protagonist. I watched Alien again recently, and I noticed that she never once chooses to confront the alien. Even when she's armed with the flamethrower towards the end, she always chooses to run or hide when it's an option. And when she finally does defeat the Alien at the end, she does it in a way that allows her to not go near it. Women who sincerely reckon with the threats around them and their biological reality do a much better job of selling the character.

[@troll_kin9456]

@JackD89 Yeah, and both Ripley and Sarah Connor are more girl bossy in the sequels, but we all thought it was badass because they earned that spot by struggling through their respective first movies as normal women. So in the Sequel, Ripley gets to act like a boss because she's the only one who has any experience at all dealing with Xenomorphs. Sarah Connor gets to act like a boss, because she's dealt with the machines before, and because there's nobody else she can trust to fight for her son.

[@RJ-Isaac-TSOML]

Around 20:00, when she talks about her friends that lived the trad life and are now divorced, she says, "They end up divorced," but who is the one that filed for divorce? I agree wirh Lauren on a lot, but this feminist stance she has taken after her divorce (which was NOT a "trad marriage" in any sense) is not as thought through as her other takes.

[@robertmillar8246]

The both of you were introduced to me in the last 4 years. During the imposed interruption in the spring of 2020 I really started exploring You Tube. Along the way I found Timcast IRL where he has various guests. The last 4 years have been great getting to listen to and see people who for most part have sane POV's. Mainstream media in my life has taken a backseat though I will occasionally tune in for local stories, then as soon they start talking about national issues the skeptic in me kicks in. I live on the Island a two hour ferry ride from where Lauren resides. When I saw her on Tim's show drinking spirits from a paper cup I thought wow not only is she intelligent, she also likes to have fun. I remember the November of 2022 show where Tim had parked on the side of the road in Austin and welcomed guests including Michael Malice, Drew Hernandez, Blaire White, Alex Jones and Joe Rogan alongside the Timcast crew. As Tim has recently mentioned it's been axed by the platform. Continue on your success Michael and by the way you're always great on your Comrade Lex's show.

[@Nate4445]

Love the trolling of Tom Woods!

[@xpallodoc1147]

What was the time stamp if you remember when they trolled him

[@ccunningham83]

@@xpallodoc1147it was around 45 min

[@Nate4445]

​@@xpallodoc114746:20 and at the end again at 1:08.20 after Michael asked Lauren for her favorite part of the interview

[@stephanieolsen8148]

Thank you for the conversation... I'm pissed about this crazy thing about PEI. I have generations of family there.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

The people who say that about female leads in roles have never read manga or watched anime, which is absolutely full of strong female characters. But there’s a massive difference, these characters will act like an actual female character, they’ll be extremely cute. There’s no cute characters in movies or TV shows, this type of character doesn’t exist. And this is why manga & anime has become extremely popular, because that’s what guys want to see.

[@joes.8500]

Well... there was Buffy the vampire slayer series. That did ok. But, overall I agree.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

@@joes.8500 That was 20 years ago, sorry I meant modern Hollywood, TV, games etc. Only the Japanese gives us cute characters.

[@damaj40124]

Im an adult, forgive me for not reading anime and manga for my free time entertainment

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

@@damaj40124 Yea that’s the mentality a lot of older people have in places like the US. A lot of manga is for adults, in Japan everyone reads manga, 60 year old CEO’s will be sitting up reading the new volume of their favourite story. The stories in manga are far more entertaining & creative than everything in the rest of the world.

[@entonbray]

@@damaj40124 It's very US-centric to view comics and cartoons as being for children. It isn't that way in Japan, nor in France. It's not even like I'm a comic or anime enjoyer either, just noting your lack of perspective.

[@travisstase1577]

But what about Destiny tho 😆

[@Dynamus21]

I can't wait to hear why I shouldn't date a Fed

[@myhounddog]

In all honesty never date a suit....of any kind. If your man wears neon to work you will have a safe happy relationship ❤❤❤❤

[@Gobbersmack]

She's still trying to spin that as "trad gone wrong"

[@hardbrocklife]

Its insufferable. She is frantically trying to cling to relevance.

[@DaedalusHelios]

​​@@hardbrocklife She is still relevant. Her life is actually important because it serves as a warning to all the West. You shouldn't fully trust anyone. I say that while having a successful marriage across almost 20 years now. Be thoughtful and caring to those you love, if nudging doesn't work and it becomes unsafe or unsavory, by all means abandon the ship.

[@brianmeen2158]

@@hardbrocklife many of you are really not good at the political game - you just want to in-fight all the time. It’s no wonder the right keeps losing

[@thebobbs6999]

An awful lot of cope being aired in public

[@FazeParticles]

Most of these people are leftist progressives in denial. Ever since western civilization thought that including women in the political franchise was a good idea killed that civilization totally. Men have to be the ones to maintain civilization and this includes identifying weak men and traitor men. IMHO traitor just as bad as weak men if not worse. Women just go along to get along.

[@swampytv9611]

This entire episode is the exemplification of womansplaning

[@DaedalusHelios]

From someone who married a Fed and complained that he acted like a Fed. 😂

[@theglanconer6463]

She just want to go back to the 1990s. Normality. I support that !

[@oldsoul2394]

During the pandemic I found out that several of my friends were married to abusive men who were very good at pretending for the rest of us, even one was found to be a predator. These women believed in trad values and gave up everything for their families and now they are left with nothing. I'm more nuanced about marriage now, I think it can be beautiful and I live a traditional lifestyle myself, but I'm very worried when I see marriage being worshiped in my circles as if it's the ultimate goal and solution for young people. It's just not that simple.

[@ffnovice7]

For myself, in my 30s, and a former incel wizard, I was waiting for fairy tale romances and true love, which never happened. The idyllic fantasy of a trad wife and kids is the only beacon I'm seeing forward, because every other path seems like failure. To settle for a liar feels like death for me, which is why I left my first girlfriend at 32, my second at 33, and my last at 34 actually left me because she wasn't on board with fitting into my trad wife trad life mindset.

[@carolyna.869]

I have so many happily married friends and I just can't understand why someone would marry an abusive person. Friends need to step in and speak out before they say I do.

[@oldsoul2394]

@@carolyna.869 I don't know anyone who knowingly married an abusive person. It can happen to anyone, even people with a good radar for picking up red flags can be fooled.

[@samsapper2658]

The Tom Woods comment at the end made Michael's year.

[@davidburton9690]

I don't hate women in movies, General Audiences do.

[@ea2631]

It's weird when people say "I couldn't have predicted my ex husband or wife could have done that" True, sometimes you genuinely can't, that said Lauren you're the one who married a actual Fed and was surprised it didn't work out

[@lewisedwards4058]

Till we have Faces is my favorite book of all time. I get something new out of it every time I read it.

[@nealorr5086]

I don't remember all of my Shakespeare, Michael, but I am pretty sure "Look at Lady MacBeth" is not the win against trad-wife argument you want it to be. Look at Taming of the Shrew, my friend.

[@amylynnhunt55]

I'm really confused - my church has classes and wonderful people to support women and men after divorce. No Christian i know would be at all interested in making a woman hide that she was divorced. Lauren, i hope you found better people to surround yourself with. This was just really sad.

[@AncientMarinerNY]

People never just wake up one day and decide to blackmail you and make lists of your enemies. There is something not being told here. This is not a commentary on trad vs modern life. Both have costs and benefits. If you've lived long enough, you realize it's rarely a victim versus a villain when it comes to personal relationships.

[@kristinradams7109]

Thank you for this one, Michael! I'm a huge fan of Lauren, and I'm glad to see her looking well and doing well. I hope and pray that Canada has a brighter future for her, and everyone else. Much love from Texas :)

[@dolphmanity]

Lauren Southern is an insufferable feminist.

[@bartsavagewood9055]

Do anarchists vote?

[@kud5659]

Hahaha I've been asking the same thing with everything going on with the LP party. Suddenly they are all wanting to vote.

[@RedBricksTraffic]

some do some dont

[@briandolan1122]

Super glad to see that Lauren is back

[@leslovesliberty1776]

OMG, 2 of my favorites! What a treat! 💯❤️🤗

[@propertake]

Dave Smith & Michael Malice's situationship is very endearing

[@grimhammer00]

24:25 malice is correct…surely, he’s aware that what he’s advocating for is the return of shame and light bullying. Not physical. But a little verbal abuse is good for one to control themselves around. Remember, outside US and western countries…traditional living is still the majority of people. Or at least is still the universal goal. A nuclear family.

[@bigchris2011]

I seem not to believe her.

[@brek5]

I think she seems right. Of all people, I have a "trad" wife, lol, because I married someone from a place where that's the norm. But even there, I mean, we do things for each other, and cooking, cleaning, all that is not a given. She does it because she wants to, and if she's sick or no feeling it, I'm doing it, up in the AM making her coffee or food (and also generally help out). You're a team, and you work together as needed. It's not f'n rocket science.

[@Chris-jr2nu]

@@brek5 I have a trad wife too. Latin mass traditional community. Its just the norm to do that.

[@brek5]

@@Chris-jr2nu Oh, yeah, here, my mother-in-law was scandalized when I was running clothes in the washing machine, haha (but I hate folding them and almost never do it), but I kind of like the machine cycle and don't mind hanging the clothes (no dryer), but it's seen as "women's work." But then it's also my job to make money, protect the family, like, kind of just "traditional" stuff, but nobody makes a thing about it. We all have our responsibilities. That's what I don't get about these "trad" chicks sort of making a big deal of themselves on social media. Just do your part, and sometimes you'll both switch and help each other out. It's not like we have to stay in a "lane. I mean, I always think of it this way. I had a grandmother who lived through the Great Depression and work in a factory (also during WWII), and my grandfather fought in the war but would also hold babies and even change their diapers (which I saw, and it was hilarious, but he could do it). Like, they were as old school as you can get, but they just helped each other out, but they knew their strengths.

[@Chris-jr2nu]

@@brek5 exactly, i mean ive changed over 200 diapers in the first month I had my child. You just do what has to be done, if shes cooking you do the baby stuff, what are we suppose to do have a beer and lounge around when we are not at work? lol

[@MagnusGalactusOG]

I thought we wanted to free Ukraine not buy one.

[@il400]

36:30 buying a home? Who the fuck watching this show (including myself) will ever be able to buy a home 🤣... 😮‍💨

[@Chris-jr2nu]

people who live in saskatchewan. I bought a 160 acre 3 bedroom house for less than 200k lol

[@il400]

@@Chris-jr2nu how do I sign up?

[@markraftis]

Michael it has been a while since I have watched yoy. I love Lauren beautiful 😍.

[@Impalas71]

Lauren was a guest on Tom Woods podcast and she was rude to her former host.

[@myhounddog]

Lauren has been a favorite journalist for many years 🎉. I'm so excited to see her thriving after what the Woke did to her. The world needs More Truth tellers❤

[@DaedalusHelios]

Her subjective telling of how society works is very selfish. If something effects her it is a problem, while not looking at the flipside. Generationally, women will control 70% of the wealth in America within 20 years while they now receive 70% of degrees and climbing. Lauren needs the world's smallest violin playing to ease her self-pity for choosing a toxic male.

[@holijay5502]

The trad life has flaws…everything has flaws. I was the stay at home father for years and my wife resented not getting more time with the babies. (twins) Women resent a weak man and men resent a more powerful woman. It sounded like a toxic relationship, especially when the supposed answer is to cook more and be more pretty instead of spend more time together and sacrifice your career. Maybe not the best move, but you can’t have it all.

[@AlexanderRobins0080]

Thanks for the lovely episode. Living in BC can be beautiful but then it's offset by what Canada is becoming. It's so sad.

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

BC is very varied. Even within the big cities like Vancouver. I lived in Powell River for a while and it's much more independent/libertarian than say, DT vancouver. Many parts of inner BC are more conservative than either of these places. The islands all have their own cultures... it's a great place to live IMO

[@Eliteownage]

I've never seen Michael turn so red like he did at the end of this ep

[@Mark1JT]

weaponized empathy.

[@remotecontrol9489]

She married and Asian dude who was an Australian federal agent. She totally got psyopd.

[@ericsimkins]

Michael, you have a nack for humanning.

[@windsongshf]

Tommy Robinson would be a cool interview. :)

[@mikefleissner4415]

Fantastic show..❤Lauren

[@memph7610]

With Surrey's eastern twin, Brampton, the most recent census (2021) was the first time that the Chinese and Latin American population declined, even as the South Asian population increased by 79,000 in just 5 years. The formerly steadily growing Black and Filipino populations have basically ground to a halt too as people from those groups are starting to skip over Brampton. And the white population fell by its biggest amount, 20% (again in just 5 years), continuing a slower decrease that is now up to 35% from 2001 to 2021, even as Brampton's population has doubled. 2001 60% White 19% South Asian 10% Black 2.1% Filipino 1.7% Chinese 1.6% Latin American 5.4% Other 2021 19% white 52% South Asian 13% Black (peaked at 14% in 2016) 3.2% Filipino (peaked at 3.4% in 2016) 2.1% Latin American (peaked at 2.4% in 2016) 1.1% Chinese (peaked at 1.8% in 2006) 8.6% other I wouldn't be surprised if Brampton was 80% South Asian in 10-15 years, with all other groups declining since those other minority groups didn't learn English so that they could live in a city where everyone speaks to each other in Punjabi. I suppose this sort of ghettoization already exists in the US with blacks and Hispanics, but in Canada it's fairly new. And at least in the US the blacks have basically the same religion and language. Hispanics have a different language, but still same religion and a western(ish) culture. Surrey is in a similar situation to Brampton, just 10 years behind. 2001 63% White 22% South Asian 4.8% Chinese 3.0% Filipino 1.1% Black 1.0% Latin American 5.1% Other 2021 33% White 38% South Asian 8.6% Chinese 7.0% Filipino 2.3% Black 1.6% Latin American 9.8% Other Both Surrey and Brampton have large chunks of the municipality where South Asians are solidly the majority though.

[@Lochness19]

51:40 I did a little exchange with a family in Ecuador. Ethnically Indigenous, Christian, and fairly poor, though average for their village (no running water, no car, and 5 people living in a 3 room house). The father was a fisherman, often out at sea for a few days at a time, while the mother tended to things around the house, which was a bit more work than here, mainly because she had to wash clothes by hand. But she also had a freezer in her garage that she sold ice-cream to passersby from. That seemed to be typical in that village, the women would have these little part-time side hustles. With the Mennonites here in Canada, it's mostly the women that are involved on the retail side of things, running shops and market stalls, interacting with customers at POY farms, etc. Then men are more likely to work the fields and be craftsmen, although the women will still work on the fields as well, although there might still be some gender roles involved, women might hand pick fruits and vegetables while men work with the tractors (or horses if really old older) to plough fields and bring in the corn/wheat harvests.

[@F4ILS4FE_GAMING]

Be yourself. Don't worry about all the rest.

[@philsheridan7659]

Lauren has lost it. She married a dude from Australia very quickly, and is trying to pretend its "trad life" . Its not. I love Lauren but common

[@BruisedReedofTas]

Lauren, conservatism isn't an idealogy, it's an anti-idealogy. In one sense, conservatism is to idealoogies as atheism is to religions, but in another, it's not a propositional framework at all, it's a sensibility.

[@twodeepmatt]

Correct. Poorly written characters are not working at the box office. Also, Mad Max with no Mad Max should be a tough sell. So you would have to really bring it. Also, can we Go Fund Me Lauren a TV that's not a DVD/VCR combo stolen from a 1991 grade school? Any political leader who calls his own country post national should be expelled from office and not allowed to work as a public servant.

[@veugeler72]

Bring back the social stigma

[@FazeParticles]

Repeal everything progressive. Women’s rights included. I’ll die before I surrender.

[@gantmj]

Why is she being brought back from years-ago obscurity.

[@Vagarden649]

Two of my faves!

[@troll_kin9456]

This was a pretty satisfying episode for me. They hit all of my pet peeves with these new "Conservatives." It's crazy how the people trying to brand themselves as the mostest Conservative are the most rude, foul-mouthed, whorish, boastful, anti-stoic, anti-chivalry types online. It's like the hypocrisy Olympics out there.

[@parlyramyar]

Chivalry? Lol the age for chivalry has long passed since feminists came about. Women that have all the rights and privileges of men shouldn't be getting chivalry since that would simply relegate men to a second class citizen.

[@orangesox915]

Read "The Superstition of Divorce" by G. K. Chesterton.

[@jesseolive7675]

So let's just do the exact opposite of trade must just be Destiny

[@Scott-W]

Traditional is as traditional does. “Trad” is just a costume. Good interview, Lauren sees the difference

[@DaedalusHelios]

She makes fantastically bad decisions constantly. A slow motion trainwreck of her own making. That is difficult to accomplish while starting adult life as a gorgeous female.

[@CigEconomy]

She married a federal agent and then blamed everything on trads. She sucks.

[@DaedalusHelios]

​@@CigEconomyShe made some pro-Marxist videos afterward and was cheered on by shoeonhead.

[@allenwixted1992]

Excited for this one

[@Gobbersmack]

She blocked me :(

[@TickleMeChelmno]

Keep your hands above the desk

[@utdpkg38]

A “trad life” is the best way to raise a family, but that outcome is predicated on multiple assumptions about the husband and wife. So, Lauren wasn’t necessarily wrong before she got married, but again her conclusion depends on underlying assumptions being true of both parties. Frankly, the mistake I think people make is that they think everything has to be done traditionally in order to properly live a “traditional life.” I would posit that it matters that you get there, eventually, but make your mistakes and move forward. I have 4 kids. My oldest son’s mom and I would have never worked, but we coparent quite well. After dating an amazing woman for like 6 years, buying a house, cars, etc… we got married and had 3 kids. In other words I made sure she was the one and then made the commitment. (Don’t take that long. Almost lost her because I was dragging my feet). We’re pretty traditional now, but I’m also not overbearing/abusive so that helps.

[@TickleMeChelmno]

You know she’ll never love your firstborn right?

[@utdpkg38]

@@TickleMeChelmno thankfully, you’re wrong. He’s 16 now and she’s helped me raise him since he was 1. Trust me when I tell you she loves him like our others. Don’t worry, bud. You’ll find your Eva Braun one day. Chin up.

[@TheLandon8806]

@@utdpkg38 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWTRn2mNm6uEbdEsi=H04T_7JPNRV10Tdj

[@TickleMeChelmno]

I’m sorry but she doesn’t love a stranger like she loves her own blood. Keep coping though

[@allenlea4654]

I'm a simple man. I see Lauren Southern.

[@Joker22593]

I'm not a Canon Lawyer, but I'm pretty sure Lauren has grounds for annulment if the details she shared are true.

[@PerfectHandProductions]

The wheat fields!

[@andrewlaco1776]

...Star Child...

[@hardbrocklife]

I'm dead 😂 Dodged a wheat field of bullets. That episode was prophetic.

[@burnslc222]

Coming back here to find what CS Lewis book Lauren mentioned… anyone remember?

[@stvbrsn]

Shortening the word “traditional” to “trad,” began 40 years ago in the context of rock climbing… and should remain there.

[@notanotherguitarchannel]

I thought it was from trad jazz, as opposed to the later styles, swing and bebop

[@KedTaczynski]

40+ years ago I heard trad used first in reference to how a drummer holds his sticks, trad grip or matched grip. 🤷‍♂️

[@mattcomchoc2957]

really surprised she has such a horrible take on the manosphere. it's the same you would here from a lefty.

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

The manosphere is just feminism for men for the most part

[@ESPspiderXIII]

GET. IT. ON.

[@Deusstyles]

"I'm not hear to cause drama" no your not hear to cause that type of drama.