YouTube Celebrity Loses $371,400 Pot On Poker After Dark

KZbinr Doug Polk finds himself in two massive pots on this real money high stakes poker TV show. Both hands involve pocket aces and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Was there anything he could have done to avoid this? Doug himself takes look back at this brutal session.
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[@gerardobouroncle6577]

Hello doug! im a big fan of you and your videos , but i disagree totally with the first hand you should folded ... 75 % of the time you are losing to sets or to pairs ... said that you still one of my fav poker minds , SALUDOS DESDE PERU AMIGO !

[@Gidid56]

If he is up against a set only 75%, than it's an obvious Jam.

[@paulthompson9668]

Doug, in the long run, GTO wins as long as you make the appropriate GTO folds. lol

[@RodLobLaw]

The spreadsheet, "if he can have AA-JJ or AK". Wait what? You have AA so the likelihood he has AK or AA is that much smaller. Doug talked himself into a jam and that's a whole lot of production to justify it. No white Magic.

[@ogolthorp]

The likelihood of them having AK is about as much as them having a set.

[@SnyderBearFarm]

Dougs favorite part of this video was calling himself a celebrity in the title.

[@Blue1479758]

More $ than subscribers. Hopefully referring to himself as a celebrity will bring them in

[@davidbirkes7308]

You spoiled it bro

[@richard7645]

I'd say degenerate gambler than a celebrity, but he's done very well for himself though.

[@YallaMiami]

Now I understand why he quit! Poker is Brutal

[@Writeous0ne]

haha i was watching like whos the celebrity?

[@robertshawnmitchell]

I like that the viewers are balancing their likes and dislikes on the videos. Sure, like is standard but you want to mix in some dislikes to keep Doug guessing.

[@rambojohnj.6117]

Shawn Mitchell That is HILARIOUS!

[@vishrantgoyal8225]

This comment made my day!! :D

[@virtual-adam]

hahaha :)

[@GrantBoonzaier]

lol

[@keilanknight8513]

I see you've studied YTO (youtube optimal).....have you run YOLO solver? (youtube online likes obviously)

[@kramerica2k10]

I came here for the riveting conversation about tuition costs at Stanford.

[@relly793]

lmao

[@JustinOhio]

I never use this acronym but damn, I just wish they would STFU!!!!!!!!!

[@selena6112]

who was that annoying twat?

[@michaelmaniscalco2191]

Do private colleges get tax breaks? Im not up on current policy but im pretty sure they do.

[@Blakout911]

Nothin better than some white guy talking about how rich white private school kids are getting screwed over

[@aaronsoto629]

"He mainly has KK, QQ, JJ when a player 4 bets like this." Flop comes K,Q,J I'm all in! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DOGMAFREE1]

Aaron Soto LOL I was laughing at that tooo.. ohh boyyy

[@mattm8441]

I mean, I'm no pro, but if I'm watching that pre-flop action, there's no way in hell he has anything but KK, QQ, or JJ to me.. The all-in seemed crazy.. take one more card at least. He's all in no matter what at that point.

[@zhankuisenpai8479]

guys, do you guys even listen? People can have bluffs ,don’t say the word always in poker....

[@battosaijenkins946]

@Doug Polk Poker, dude with all due respect that first play was a complete donk move. Why would you push all in on a flop like that if you knew he had better than a marginal hand? The only time where this would work would obviously be if he was bluffing but other than that he has you beat. If anything you should've shoved pre-flop or checked the flop to see what happens next. And lastly, that last hand with pocket Queen's, I don't know what to say. It's another steaming moment from losing with pocket aces. One thing to learn is most people don't bluff with scenarios such as yours. And when you were squirming in your seat with pocket Queens, you knew you had to be beat. Like many others, you let emotions get the best of you and that's why you lost. Trust me~ I know...

[@UODZU-P]

I think he played a little too much GTO here - it's not online

[@WesternPI1]

Mike Postle would've folded after the flop.

[@saywhat52]

lmao

[@JasonEmerson711]

*Mike Postle would've check/folded the flop. There, fixed it for ya!

[@7_red24]

Not so fast...Mike Postle would've folded the flop.

[@CameronStockton1]

CTO

[@David-ml5tm]

Wrong, Postle would've folded the 4 bet preflop.

[@Spo8]

"It's gonna be all of it, Doug" Brutal.

[@apoc3037]

LOL I read that right as it was said

[@MLFlagg]

“We’re gonna get a little more complex than normal here” to help justify me losing an make me feel better about it lol

[@BasedNeptune]

Lmao

[@larrywheels762]

I saw a guy in an elvis costume on the strip trying to hustle tourists , looked just like this dude.

[@Brokers_Anonymous]

"KZbinr, Doug Polk refers to himself in the third person"

[@bobgeorgiou472]

And on a completely unrelated note, the price of Upswing Poker is going up.

[@playingfor4]

Bob Georgiou hahahaha 😂😂😂😂

[@fladmus]

Time for another 1 hour infomercial to cover his leaks :)

[@rambojohnj.6117]

Now *THAT* is comic gold at its best.

[@garygwin1741]

Is it worth a plug nickel?

[@austinfelix5321]

eBay patriotpokergear ** t-shirts hats long sleeves & hoodies low prices

[@JohnDoe-vh2ww]

Doug, you spent so much time around Phil Helmuth and still haven't learned any white magic? Come on man

[@EpicRSvids]

"It's gonna be all of it, Doug." That was nasty

[@CardinalLaw9]

"Our hand begins with Brian Rast yammering on incessantly about the economics of higher education..."

[@a.f.f.3801]

this guy 4-bets u (possibly with KK, QQ, JJ) and then flop is so scary and you go all in? seriously? terrible play i think.. don't understand why people call so-called poker experts...

[@nathancl2295]

Doug, do you ever post videos where it looks like you know what your doing? Haha

[@garyflanzer]

Nathan Lee lol

[@TarmacBlackIX]

He post vids of him losing some money and been koo about it. How many have you posted b? Exactly

[@dt8786]

The only time he sounds like he knows what he’s talking about is when he’s analyzing other people’s hands and that’s because he knows what both players cards are already lmao. Do better Doug pop. Get good.

[@kevinwalery9716]

I am a novice, just curious, What is the benefit of running it twice, to the hand who is a heavy favorite?

[@ALEXBOWN]

@@kevinwalery9716 Reduce variance. Also respect for people who are playing for big money

[@sdp4008]

i would love to hear this kid just say, "you know, i made a mistake, i could have played better".

[@albcas4997]

"Its gonna be all of it Doug" Got me laughin so hard at the very end xDD

[@Jakub269]

He deserved it. Why would anyone 4-bet QQ? LMAO WTF. And this guy calls himself a poker pro and a celebrity HAHAHA what a joke this guy is.

[@IAMSOUND99]

@@Jakub269 you're so result oriented, you'll never beat sauce123 in a hu challenge if you keep it up!

[@sandramohr6068]

c'mon Doug. You know you messed this one up. Next Video: "I can still learn to play better"

[@goodvibesslotspoker]

who is the KZbin celebrity ?

rene herrera very nice observation !

[@TarmacBlackIX]

Why you hatibg? 😭😂

[@dazendi8116]

Ikr. I was wondering if PewDiePie played poker. Different meaning of the word celebrity nowadays.

[@holdem5180]

exactly, i didn't get it either....

[@johnbethell1952]

don't know is it you Rene

[@66RainySuper]

It’s ok Doug you still know how to down a glass of beer!

[@Mario1057]

no question you go all in pre flop there. You either take down a nice pot or you force your opponent to make a decision with KK.

[@Traumtheater0]

Doug, you know, I am STILL waiting on that Halloween-'Polkergeist'-Special that you never promised!

[@PlatinumAbra]

I didn't watch all the math, but does it mean always go all in when you know you are behind??

[@chinopepino47]

Saving this video to serve as a reminder how “ not to play AA “ .... brutal to watch

[@Jakub269]

And also how not to play QQ lmfao

[@zeebot1]

Jo Doug, just wanted to say I love the quality and amount of content you put out at the moment. Really goes to show how much passion and appreciation you have for the game and your fans. Awesome work, keep it up man! :)

[@DougPolkPoker]

+Michel Rieckhoff Thanks Michel! Appreciate you stopping by and dropping a comment

[@peterlohnes1]

I don't mind calling, however when my opponent four bets there, how can I not put him on KK or QQ and release on that HORRIBLE flop

[@blowc1612]

Peter Lohnes at that point, you just gotta minimize the pot and call till you get lucky. You’re drawing to a 10 or an ace if you think you’re behind and win a huge pot. Your opponent can easily have AX, as worst for you, the sets and two pairs. No way it would be small ace. At this point you can’t really fold your AA and you have to minimize the pot as it’s possible for AK, which about half the time you’re probably winning with AA of a guy just trying to move, but you don’t want to make the pot big due to as likely as your opponent can bluff, they also as likely they have you beat but you still have 6 outs so you have about 20% catching up. But to jam on the flop is IDIOTIC AND A VERY IMPULSIVE MOVE.

[@blowc1612]

Dezu123 spr was definitely not 1.5... also shoving and calling wasn’t definitely equal to a shove... the bet was about a 1/3 of your chip count.

[@cyberwize4106]

I played a 400 player tournament today (made 50th, but no cash, sadly). Early on I played a pivotal hand that was almost the exact first hand that Doug shows (AA vs KK with kings hitting a set on the flop, and then all of the money going in). The difference was that I was the guy with the set of kings... and my opponent riverred the ace.

[@HollandOates]

Kudos for showing yourself losing hands. Very humble.

[@fookutube501]

Im just trying to figure out whos the "KZbin Celebrity" is. I dont know any of them...Someone tell me please

[@IceyFlame500]

"It's gonna be all of it Doug"

[@djdimapasoc7988]

Should have gone all-in pre-flop. So you'll have an excuse of being out-flopped instead.

[@joseywales583]

kudos for breaking down hands you lose. hearing your thinking/analysis is very valuable

[@joseywales583]

also i find it amusing you tout AA-QQ as your “fav hands” - who doesn’t think the same 😂

[@joeyp978]

Hey man, just wanted to say I really love the content. I've not played the game in a while, was big into it back in 2014 2015ish (the game not the stakes haha, risk management smh) but I've been loving all your videos, at first it was hard to keep up with you at first, but you break it down, pretty well, to after a few videos, everything started to flood back, about ranges, I always loved the videos where pros just lay it all out straight and tell exactly what they were thinking during certain hands their strategy, etc. One of the big reasons I was (or still am I guess s fan of Negreanu's small ball series). So crazy how this game changes from just s few years. Anyways, I'll hop off now lmao. But thanks for the vids and free content, if I get back into it, I'll def be lookin at your paid strategy stuff, always want to support good content providers. Also, if you happen to see this, what do you think of the crypto poker sites like CoinPoker. Think its probably just best to stick to traditional poker rooms that accept crypto to fiat conversions? Or (not sure how much you know about blockchain tech but) do you think a dedicated tokenized poker platform have a spot and legitimate use case. Thanks again Doug.

[@rooksman64]

lmao...Doug trying to “balance” against someone he’ll hardly play ever again

[@BasedNeptune]

Justifying his donkey call

[@Dreamagain11]

you don't balance against specific people you dumbass. you balance your specific strategy..

[@ViableSolutions]

Long explanation for a simple hand you got spanked in Doug.

[@mikeanderson3811]

way over analysis he has got to have kk or qq in that situation or at worst ak thats not a good play at all

[@RoidRGE]

Our boi :"Let's see 75,hmm" Narrator: " Its gonna be all of it Doug 😔"

[@jasonhite5512]

Awful jamb. If there is ever an easyish fold post flop with aces...this is it. No amount of explaining will make it any different. It's actually kind of annoying

[@xo121w]

the donkey tries to justify it with math lol

[@TIMS3O]

Cancerous comment section lol

[@bestbotreview]

TIMS3O #RaiseIT

[@Mr.Rick989]

Hard to sift through all the retards on here. I was about to talk about the idiocracy that exists in the minds of most of these comments...but nahhh. Cancerous is being polite.

[@superpasi7315]

How can you lose with your favorite hand???

[@DougPolkPoker]

Superpasi7 it just doesn't seem right!!

[@dimitrakisladasi5496]

you dont think that his face is too nitty to have anything else but set???///

[@bestbotreview]

Steven had trip KANGS

[@stapia505]

Getting beat on the river lol

[@MrRywee123]

Doug Polk Poker fuck you doug joke

[@chillydill4703]

It's funny to see hands from 2017. This is where GTO gets too out of line - as well as trying to defend the line. This is an exploitative situation. I'm pretty sure the other guy does't even know what card removal is, therefore, trying to defend a jam in this situation is not going to work. Well, you can say "we're are developing a strategy and would play this every time" - that is not going to work and will loose money in the long run if playing against recreational players. Against a pro, no questions asked, it's a jam.

[@madman2541]

Do you have any clips where you lay down great hands or are you always calculating value and outs and making excuses why you should stay in a pot?

[@chriss4836]

This video is very reassuring of why to not take this game too seriously. You got rocked with the aces, and ignored all of your own 15 min rant advice and depended on 6 real outs at best post flop . You got coolered with the queens, and snapped off six figures like it was a set in the second hand. Nothing remotely different than what an average player would do playing this game.

[@Ehrookie]

Does he call himself a youtube celebrity lmfao

[@escaperoomleander1948]

I love the commentary..."he could have kings, queens, or jacks, maybe queen/Jack..." and then the flop comes where ALL of those hands now beat aces, and he raises all in.

[@notmypresident3107]

Douglas I could've used that 371 to buy a house. Shame on u

[@ogjoec]

ARE U STUPID? Mine was $150k 2 houses

[@GuzzaGaming1]

I think you missed out a set of brackets/parentheses in your excel formula i.e. Cell J5 reads ((I5-G5) * 1-B5) + ((E5+F5) * B5) rather than ((I5-G5) * (1-B5)) +((E5+F5) * B5) Pretty sure this only further strengthens your point but just wanted to check I wasn't being dumb Keep up the great content!

[@pepelaugh1235]

how could you not fold when you're up against the nuts, Doug?

[@Cowtymsmiesznego]

He was never up against the nuts in this video though...

[@Jakub269]

@@Cowtymsmiesznego And what about the QQ vs AA? LMAO. AA is the nuts. OFC he´s gonna have Aces or 999 when going all in on that flop. Flush draw would just raise. Even 999 would just raise make it seem like a flush draw and trap the fuck out of him. I doubt any other hand would jam on that flop.

[@chriss4836]

so Doug; basically you spent 10 minutes displaying a Good Will Hunting chart, when at the end of the day, he had either Queens, Kings, or the other two Aces. According to the 2018 academy of poker, you holding AA blocks AK, and therefore, his 21K flop bet should've been a clear sign that you were beat. Lets speed up the video to "I have Aces, I may hit a gutterball nut straight, or running diamonds, and I decided to go for it. Makes total sense rather than displaying an EV chart that means zero .

[@dannyjames7911]

WOW AWFUL PLAY HERE, NO AMOUNT OF MATH IS GONNA JUSTIFY THIS.

[@sethnaidu3153]

Danny Johnston Wrong, my friend. Math justifies everything in poker.

[@kingoftheilluminati9942]

I dont play GTO or give a damn about math, all I know is my lag style makes fish like you pay me off with crap all day long. Poker is about instinct and the sooner this GTO bullshit dies the better!

[@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers]

@@kingoftheilluminati9942 Damn right, sir! That's why all the "instinct" guys from years past are still super super crushing it and why none of the top pros for the past 5-10 years pay any attention to this 'GTO bullshit'! 100% on the mark, preach on brother!

[@joeyb6285]

i sighed when the spreadsheet came up

[@tjebbedonckers]

Does that spreadsheet take in account how often villain mathematically shows up here with AK or AA when you have the AA in your hand, Doug? Cause he probably shows up there with a set more often than AK, and definately way more often than the AA. - I don't know the guy you're playing against, but if he's on the tighter side and doesn't 4bet AK 100% of the time preflop you should probably only give him 50% for the AK, no? ... So, AA starts to look pretty bad on that flop with that scenario, imho. - Anyway, you'll probably never read this, so I guess I'll just stop rambling and take a beer instead. - Cheers.

[@lmrbeerbellyl]

TD you're entirely correct. In his math AA AK had the same value as KK QQ JJ even though KK QQ JJ are much more likely based solely on the fact that he is holding AA.

[@urutoraseven]

Commentator at the end: "It's gonna be all of it Doug" that was nasty.

[@garygwin1741]

Well Doug, the only hand your opponent could have here that 4 bet, that you can beat is MAYBE AK. This is where having alot of Live Experience, can really be more beneficial than showing a bunch of possible hands and a graph. When you consider the fact that alot of bad 4 bets could be made with KQ, KJ, and Even QJ, and you cannot beat those hands as well, Jamming with AA is really a bad move man. It's the absolute worse board possible for your hand. So, if you are going to Jam on any board, why not just jam preflop as a 4.1-1 favorite? If you jam pre, and then you decide to run it 2x, you would probably atleast break even

[@overthehilldill3626]

You people will never understand what Doug is actually doing here. It goes way deeper than any of your minds will ever comprehend.

[@watson8548]

Dwan could have gotten away from both hands

[@meu02136]

True, he got away from the Triads so why not two poker hands?

[@danieldean6363]

Lmao

[@benconlon875]

i don’t understand.. how is it only losing like $20000 if the opponent only has KK-JJ??? he is completely crushed by all of those hands

[@Vitalstatistix]

AA, KK and QQ... skill gets buttfucked and all that is left is pure luck...

[@agauerm]

I am pretty sure he was thinking "you never fold AA"" lol

[@jeffhenderson1778]

Hard to justify the 1st hand but harder to listen to his voice...

[@nathanielhiggerson7679]

Did you want to punch that guy in face for talking about college tuition the first two minutes? I did. So I punched my iPhone.

[@MrHtowntrucker]

Honestly, I wish I could lose 300k playing poker.

[@fromtheinsides]

23 minutes of Doug disguising his bad play

[@hshjen2747]

Self proclaimed celebrity 😂

[@Mahatheyew]

Im in awe that these 2 have the nerve to carry on a fucking conversation during a hand

[@measuringtap3]

2nd hand was a cooler but AA was a clear fold on KQJ after being 3 bet and then stevens lead on the flop. no way he was even leading AK its always a set

[@stephenhall5381]

measuringtap3 you're an idiot

[@DougPolkPoker]

+measuringtap3 What do you mean by leading, I think you mean the term cbetting

[@stephenhall5381]

The statement that it's always a set is ridiculous. You cannot make those kind of generalizations at that level of play. It absolutely can be AK it can also be Tens.

[@measuringtap3]

you're a moron dude AK is never going to be 4betting here when doug has AA blocking the hand. Stevens is very rarely even 4 betting tens here and also hardly ever leading with them as that flop could have easily hit doug. open your eyes fanboy, its clearly 100% a set, 100% of the time. Growing as a poker player you should accept that you made a mistake and evaluate where you went wrong. Positive if someone else was holding the AA this hand review would be different

[@stephenhall5381]

measuringtap3 While I am a fan of doug in this instance I'm more limely to 4bet AK or TT because its doug.

[@RheaPatrick1]

What I don't get is if you put him on a range of KK/QQ/JJ then you are easily behind. He did re raise fairly polarized IMO.

[@elcaramelero1512]

All three sets are right in your face man, I thought you were good enough to fold there. But who im I to say, you are the pro not me. He is never 4 betting with AK or QK , so is obvious that he has a set.

[@riverbusty]

so true, only beating TT and AK.

[@blowc1612]

I mean it’s not bad to call the flop but jamming all in on that board is stupid. You have 6 outs of being behind, and your opponent could be bluffing or if two pair, at least you can improve on the turn. I like a call for small price due to the fact of your outs and I think it’s about %20 that you’ll catch up.

[@theindiediary5950]

Not enough spreadsheets in poker videos. Thumbs up & subbed.

[@jackAlawless]

20% of the time, Aces lose every time. I hope you factored this into your analysis Doug!

[@Madaragun]

Which means 80% of the time, Aces win. I'll take my chances

[@Cowtymsmiesznego]

Not right. If 20% of the time they lose every time, 80% of the time they can still lose sometimes.

[@JeffZuccMusk]

Cowtymsmiesznego But when they lose 20% of the time they can also win by bluffing lol

[@Cowtymsmiesznego]

No, because then they don't lose every time if they sometimes win by bluffing...

[@JeffZuccMusk]

Yes, because if you sometimes bluff 20% of the time you don't lose 80% of the time by not bluffing

[@Smokey66s]

“Hindsight is 20/20” with a pinch of rationalization.

[@catsrule9841]

you fell in love with aces, need to change gears after you put him in on a hand,personally i reraise every time on aces, cause i always lose if i don't ,love to get my money in good when i am ahead everytime. i can mix it up later. either way, you were getting called so that was a no win scenario.

[@bekeneel]

Was a good play by the other guy, don't make him think you have the best hand, let him bet on the flop and then re-raise all in to make sure. A strong hand would call in any of those situations anyway like another high pair...

[@kjohncookew4173]

The worse part of this, is when Doug is thinking of what to do, I can nearly hear his squeaky voice, talking absolute bullshit about random hands he might have.

[@Crybabehot]

Tournament players VS Cash game players on the cash game,oh cash game players won again,lol

[@SerbyWafflesTech]

yep. tournament players are the donkeys. cash is king.

[@Magyarorsz]

I enjoy your content you provide for us Doug. Thank you for sharing your insight and wisdom over hundreds of videos you provide for us to view and the way you present them with laughter and comedy to make it entertaining is amazing. Go ask WSOP ME director ask if you can next years commentator, I'm sure they can not say ''no''. :D

[@lukaswirmsberger6260]

Doug's the fish in that lineup lol. They are only there because of him ;)

[@dt8786]

Lukas Wirmsberger lol for reals

[@niallhiggins2342]

D T bro why you so mad?

[@CTU-JackBauer]

Talks about just calling with aces to stack someone then literally gets stacked by someone calling with aces. Gotta love pros that can’t follow their own words.

[@mooneymash8126]

"All in all, a super fun day of poker for me.". Urgh good grief....I guess that feeling is comparable to me losing 4 hundo. Man. Different level.

[@jasonh6312]

The way I see it; there aren't many flops where you're folding AA, but it's hard to imagine a flop more worthy of an AA fold than this one, especially with someone who is clearly holding a power hand (or maybe even got there with a bluff). I'm not saying I would've folded in this position myself, but I definitely would've considered it a mistake in hindsight.

[@broadcastcam]

QQ hand is standard. Just a cooler. But not a huge fan of the AA - KK hand. Much better to mostly just 5bet GII pre but as Doug said, it's okay to flat occasionally. Once that flop comes it's really awful. You block AK and as stated in the video he's super heavily weighted towards KK, QQ, JJ. In fact, there are more combos of them (9) than there are AK (6) so I no, I don't like the jam at all on the flop. And yes, I do think Brandon is much less likely to be getting out of line especially against someone with as prolific a profile as Doug. Called by sets, fold out all worse hands and you even have the Ad to block Ax suited hands Brandon is getting out of line with (if he's going to get out of line, it'll likely be one of these hands). Not Doug's GTO style, but I do think it was possible to make a profitable/exploitable fold on the flop. If you call the 4bet with AA is there any flop you would consider folding if your opponent continued or would you jam 100%? Because if you're not folding AA on this flop, there basically isn't a flop that you wouldn't jam right?

[@PokerOCD]

One of the only reasonable comments here, I've just been shaking my head at the rest of them. You make good points and I agree this is a bad flop but QJT is worse since AK is 4-bet with a much higher frequency than AT so you only beat KK(but KK still has decent equity) and bluffs and some Ax hands like AQ/AJ that you block, I remember 3-betting AA IP checking back the QJT flop and folding to a big turn bet in that spot (only $600 deep 2-5 but the logic is the same) but KQJ although similar is not quite as bad as QJT. I though the same thing so I ran this through Pio and AA with Ad has an EV of 6000 and it's strategy is jam 36% call 64%(with no plans on folding safe turns). 6000 is bad since we've already put in 17k but it's not so bad we should fold to a balanced opponent. We could fold to a nit who underbluffs in this spot and doesn't really 4-bet bluff ever and doesn't really make any plays but the players in this game are on the show for a reason, they all have some moves and have the ability to bluff from time to time so I don't think we really can exploit anyone at this table very hard. Then again I don't know this player well I'm just assuming that he's got some game since he's on the show, maybe there's something I don't know about him.

[@DougPolkPoker]

+PokerOCD Fair analysis. Fwiw the same player 4b 44 earlier in the session

[@philebben8626]

+PokerOCD, Why is the jamming percentage so high? I would think this would be a flat much more often, to keep turn bluffs in and given the betting polarization due to AK removal effect. What am I missing here?

[@PokerOCD]

Phil Ebben Pio finds equilibrium solutions. These solutions are rarely "always do this", most solutions are mixed like 65/35 for the better line and 35/65 for other lines, this makes it harder to put it on a hand.

[@philebben8626]

I realize in general, an action isn't correct 100% of the time. But is 6 combos of AK enough to merit the raise 1/3 of the time? If villain has JJ-KK and ATs in their range, that's 11 combos we lose to. That is not enough AK combos calling us to merit the raise, unless my math is off.

[@omnihorse7618]

@22:44 "its gonna be all of it doug.." Lmao

[@maxwinn4886]

When math players play these stakes and don't give a fck about live reads, this is what happens. After your 4bet, he already was counting your chips. As you do not show in your video, but I remember watching it live and thinking, why would Doug not pay attention to his opponent, when playing such a big pot. I know you don't believe in live reads, what is a big mistake. If you play these stakes with such good player, you have to work on every possible edge you can find. And... Jason just always has it, when he is shoving here. At least don't snap like you have 99. Show me one spot where he does not have at least KK in such a situation. Btw, when did you stop listening to advice, since when do you think you know it all. When will you understand that live full ring or even SnG HU is a different game then deepstack hu cashgames. You keep telling how great you play when you lose, instead of working on your leaks

[@coreycunningham1783]

Max Winn You could just tell Doug this at the next super high roller you meet him at instead of typing all thi...oh wait..

[@BaliBaggins]

Max Winn live reads hahahaha yeah right mentalist 😂😂

[@rambojohnj.6117]

Live reads are definitely underrated and I'm actually pretty curious as to why Doug doesn't add that tool to his arsenal? IMO that's one thing that makes Dwan of the best high stakes cash game players in the world. He doesn't stop glaring at his opponent, while he acts, while they act, when the cards flop etc. Just my .02

[@1donoswald]

Max Winn +1

[@magicmike1122]

He's a wannabe math player. He doesn't even understand the mathematics of poker. He just reads stuff on the internet, and goes with it. If he truly understood mathematics, he would've got it all in preflop when the odds are definitely in his favor.

[@ranewardwell]

Jason Koon at 5:40 flirting with the dealer. 😂

[@mjm1330]

With the KQJ flop should of been easy fold for AA,,come on man,,

[@fiending]

did you consider shoving all in pre, then running it more than once

[@DavidS-zq8tz]

Shoving that flop was spewwww

[@deeloc1993]

did anyone see last nights live at the bike 50-100$? guy is all in for 10k in his first big game ever and he loses to a king on the turn

[@magicmike1122]

Should've shipped it in preflop. I think that's the correct play. Before he makes his set, you're at such an advantage. And if you're going to run it twice, you'll almost definitely win both.

[@yousaidwhaaaattt8631]

And how often you actually think kings will fold heads up to a preflop shove after they reraised? The shove preflop hardly accomplishes much if anything.

[@chriskline8012]

there is nothing more annoying than listening to a table full of people shuffling their chips for hours on end.

[@nenadnesovic6999]

When you have alot of milions in bank and you are caling 200k dollars to QQ lol. AWFUL play

[@donaldcampbell9483]

Nenad Nesovic I guess you don't understand that's the money the network gives these guys to play!

[@danishasshole4012]

@@donaldcampbell9483 lol

[@lmgrb]

I am going to be a bit forward here and make some assumptions about Stevens. From what I've seen of him (not much), I do not expect him to play perfect GTO and I even think he plays too passive and bluffs too little for the stakes he plays in. When Stevens 4-bets you while being OOP, you almost for sure know it is AA-QQ, and against your image he might decide to do that with AK or JJ. I don't see him taking on a good, well-established player (who has proven to be successful) by using a lot of bluffs OOP, especially with his somewhat shorter stack. Of course, his assumed attitude is not really directly quantifiable, but what I mean is that I expect him to chose other spots to play aggressively instead of having A5s, JTs, etc. OOP preflop. Additionally, even some of the preflop bluffs (in the very few instances that he might decide to 4bet somehwat lighter), now beat you postflop, for example ATs, KQs, KJs, QJs, T9s. If you look at it like this, then there is not so much value to extract by shoving over his cbet. Very near to everything he cbets, beats you (so except for AK, but you have a blocker to AK and even so i do not see him cbet AK every time on this board). His cbet size also seems to set up a turn shove. I see it is a difficult spot, because he does not have a lot behind. But still, I think against this player, it was better to call on the flop, and fold the turn when he bets. Occasionally, he might even check the turn and/or river when from his perspective one or two danger cards fall, which for instance make a four-straight or (four-)flush on the board. You even might find some spots to bluff yourself, when you realize his actual holding beats yours and he might fold enough of the times to a certain betsize. I know it is easy to talk afterwards (and seeing the hole cards bla bla), but i think against this player and assumed tendencies, who 4-bets you quite big OOP (with a decent chunk of his stack), you just should 5-bet him or shove (to be honest, here i would not easily know what is the better option to 5bet or shove) and maximize your value preflop already, instead of trying to realize that value postflop. Because of your aggressiveness, you can expect him to call with AA-QQ, and sometimes JJ and AK. Everything he 4bets preflop falls in this range if you ask me. So why just don't it preflop. I understand the 'occasionally calling 4bets with AA' story, but maybe leave that to other opponents. The GTO play you made is better suitable for opponents like Koon and Rast. So, in certain spots I think one should decide who to play GTO against and against who to deviate from that. In itself, the decision between who to apply GTO against, and against whom you don't, is an exploitative one (?) :-s Inherently, I also think that you sometimes should use some exploitative play or exploitative aspects, especially in live settings. And leave the GTO strategy for online grinding (heads-up), when regularly facing the same opponents and playing a lot of hands against each other. I saw a lot of your video material, and I have the feeling that sometimes your gut feeling really tells you to make one decision, based on a combination of concious and unconcious apects like game logic, intuition and experience, while the GTO strategy tells you to make another decision, and you still make the GTO one, even if you really feel it's the wrong decision in that specific hand against that specific opponent. I like your consistency there (and I don't know, maybe this consistency is what makes you successful) but I also think I might have sensed some frustration here and there in such spots.

[@misomiso8228]

6:56 Doug gets the spreadsheet out to prove he was right! I agree with you totally fold is out of the question, it's just funny seeing you delve into excell,, but it's also interesting to see the level of detail you go into with your thought process. Poker definately game of skill. Except when you booze too hard and get drunk at the table....

[@rooksman64]

misomiso I’m sure he computed all that in his mind

[@PaterTenebrarum1]

@Ozymandias - No need to calculate if you think about it - he may have it on auto-recall. Compared to what chess players have to memorize, poker players actually have it fairly easy.

[@TheRafaelBond]

Whats with the negativity/hate in the comments? Weird lifes y'all live, getting off on hating on someone doing no harm, and in fact, helping.

[@kenc165]

I love ya man, but hate a sad story. Please show a few big wins so we can all have a happy ending.

[@DougPolkPoker]

+Ken C Thanks Ken. This year I have the 1 drop, the party 5k during SCOOP on stream, got 2nd in a poker masters event, etc. Even this week, I only lost 60k on PAD. I'm axtjay up a ton of money this year, but people only want to talk about the most recent events rather than the entire sample.

[@kenc165]

Doug Polk Poker ok Doug, glad you're doing fine("only lost 60k"😱) and I won't see you selling pencils on Las Vegas blvd.

[@ryanshaw4250]

"I had a super fun day playing poker"

[@maxinmontreal5431]

doug: this spot is EXACTLY the same spot as I faced AA vs a 4 bet. Next sentence: This spot is a little bit different though

[@Taureg]

How do players deal with people just rambling and rambling

[@Anthony-nv7gd]

Brian Rast was clueless to the fact a big pot was brewing and continued to talk about garbage. Could barely hear Doug ask how much behind and couldn’t hear Brandon’s response at all. Whoever he was talking to noticed what was going on and made a comment about the white chips going into the pot which ended Brian’s thesis.

[@joemagnets9940]

This vid is the perfect example of when the poker 'expert' becomes the prey. A lot easier to know what to do, when ya know the hole cards.

[@royabcdefghijklmnop]

Can anybody please provide a cogent explanation as to why Doug's play can't be summarized fundamentally as, "given the stack sizes, I will virtually never fold pocket aces."

[@walterwhite1268]

I had to fast forward through every moment of that narration.