YouTube Just Got WORSE (Ads on Premium)

[@NadePlaysGames]

Wanna see me play through games? Subscribe to this new channel! 😀

[@ISAF_Ace]

I use YT premium, if they double the price and add that, I'm cancelling and going straight back to adblockers

[@Halozocker104]

Which ones? The ones that are banned now or the ones that will be banned?

[@relthetraveller245]

​@@Halozocker104 Use Ublock origin, yt almost never detects it in my experience

[@DecaffeinatedRoman]

Hold on bro, I actually use KZbin premium, and you're telling me they're going to near double its price and then add a "small" membership that's a dollar shy of the current price. That small membership gives none of the actual benefits of premium AND doesn't even remove all ads

[@cencent2189]

If u haven't heard about KZbin Revanced now it's your turn 🙏 no ads no doubling prices. Hope you have Android tho 😂

[@Zorbotics]

your youtube premium is only $10? mine has always been £12.99 which is around $16.99

[@DecaffeinatedRoman]

​@@Zorbotics Mine right now is $13.99, so my bad, it's $2 off of premium lite.

[@empwron1]

KZbin had been running well even from 10 years ago and they still made excessive profit. There is no reason to say that they need more money to pay for youtube creators (as youtube said). Once we are all willing to pay for youtube premium, they will create a new reason to charge us more and more.

[@jrlx86]

Enshittification of the internet continues! Congrats on your new job :)

[@Nadestraight]

Thank you!! 😊

[@Potatoboii2]

Thing is, the idea of "A cheaper version of youtube premium that only includes Ad-remover, but no extra features" isn't necessarily bad, but making it only remove *some* ads, and be overpriced? Yeah that's not helping :/

[@Nadestraight]

Yeah if this was $6.99 I think it'd go down a lot smoother with people

[@Spacko42]

Removing the default KZbin premium experience to replace it with a double priced version is all they did here. Scummy as fuck and should be illegal.

[@SprayNpreyT]

Problem is that most of the KZbinrs I see don´t get almost any ad revenue, What is the point if it does not support what I watch.

[@Nadestraight]

Yeah ad revenue is low, I make around £1 per 1000 views which is baaaad

[@ev34me65]

@@Nadestraight That would probably be higher if people didn't use adblockers because more people would watch an ad and give the creator more money

[@violetiolite]

@@ev34me65 the more intrusive the ads are the more people are gonna use ad blocker.

[@Mizuryryn]

Firefox + uBlock Revanced Raspberry pi Home-wide blocker abandon chrome

[@BobGreasen]

@@Mizuryryn i prefer chrome extensions so i use ungoogled chromium + chromium web store extension

[@streamdungeon5166]

I have premium and pay 12.99€/month. The price is already utterly insane and at the very edge of what I am willing to pay. If this appears over here as well for content of this quality (not even premium content at all), I will finally leave YT behind for good and go elsewhere without looking back.

[@quesopicante5743]

My exact experience as well, such a shame too

[@rellloom]

the moment adblockers stop working and youtube premium increases in price might just start a golden age for Nebula and Dropout

[@austinhernandez2716]

Never watch KZbin again? Now that's insane to me. I think you mean you'll never give them money again. Ad blockers exist.

[@quesopicante5743]

@@austinhernandez2716 and that's what this video is about! They are actively working against adblockers on this site, so that might not be an option soon

[@karinisvetcool]

I don't want to give them ideas but this feels like the Black MIrror living in a cube full of screens and hearing a blaring alarm to keep watching the screens instead of closing your eyes and trying to ignore them

[@Stavee]

I've been using premium for about two years. It blows my mind that they are clamping down on ad-blockers but they are increasing the prices on the premium subscriptions like crazy. I really hate that...

[@DraconSmol]

time to build a movie theater in Minecraft and watch some KZbin!

[@Nadestraight]

Enjoy the 64 pixels!

[@illusstrait]

Ads across all streaming platforms have gottwn excessive. All platforms do this cut price ad supported service. And this also means they then increase the price of their normal premium service. Would be interested to see the corolation between pirating and the increasing cost of subscription streaming.

[@Nadestraight]

Well, piracy is definitely on the rise since the pandemic. When everyone was locked inside their homes, subscriptions were sold more than ever before, as people felt like the spend had value, as all they were doing is binge watching shows/ movies all day while on furlough and making 90% of their wage for doing nothing. Now, people aren't willing to pay extra simply because of "inflation" when they're watching less of the service due to the world returning to normal, therefor piracy is at an all time high in many years!

[@MatthewEaton]

Just remember those prices are actually in AUD, not in USD. The article it was ripped from did state that it was AUD, but didn't put it on the image as a way to sensationalize the piece and get people to click on it. There will still be two pay models, but it won't be that pricing that you see on the image.

[@Nadestraight]

There's a few European countries that are seeing price increases lately though, not as much as $22, but I'm sure in places like the Netherlands KZbin premium works out at around $18 USD, which is still too expensive

[@Spacko42]

Still not really a justification. I'm Aussie and that's the same price as Disney+ AND Amazon prime combined. It's fucking laughable

[@MatthewEaton]

@@Nadestraight Oh, I totally agree. They got the model from Netflix. It doesn't excuse the action, it is merely to make sure everyone doesn't jump on the $22 USD bandwagon (yet). It will get there soon, much like Amazon will.

[@MatthewEaton]

@@Spacko42 I totally agree. Remember, this is the Netflix model that Amazon and Disney are also considering. "We need to get something out of the viewers for watching since they can't pay attention to the ads anymore."

[@nicholasalfrey3227]

It’s worse because KZbin gave me 8 ads during this video an ad at the beginning and at the end. And worse again because they now even have pause screen ads.

[@Nadestraight]

Soon you'll have to watch an ad before you comment

[@karinisvetcool]

I don't know if it was a glitch because I was streaming from my phone to tv but.. 'Less ads' is starting to make sense. I was watching a 36 minute video and within 5 minutes, got SIX forty-second-ads. This did not and has never happened before. I actually closed my KZbin app and started doing something else because it frustrated me too much.

[@karinisvetcool]

Am honestly wondering if Susan Wojcicki passing away set this in motion

[@reznovvazileski3193]

All they gotta do is give me a reasonably priced adfree experience without all the extra bullshit forced on to me inflating the price. Most of which mind you used to be base KZbin features they specifically removed just to sell them back to us rather than just making a tempting new feature to sweeten the deal. But no they wanna keep charging the jackpot and then still make you watch ads on top, so I'm gonna keep blocking them all and find every workaround on the planet and eventually switch platforms if I run out of solutions. As long as they try to pinch every last penny out of me, I'm not releasing a single one.

[@bobmaster698]

I'm a premium user, and the fact that they are doing this is absolutely ridiculous.

[@peanutbutter9072]

I don't think I've ever bought something from an ad since I was a kid cause these days most people know that they're over exaggerated. Me and I'm pretty sure vast majority of people buy stuff from seeing other people use them ie if a streamers playing a new game

[@Random_user_8472]

The problem is also that you've became a product and paying customer at the same time. They show you ads and you even pay for it. It's madness. In the mean while they steal your private information to sell to ad companies by using tracking cookies, hidden under the name 'personalized advertisement'. They (Google, as owner of YT) should be prosecuted for this, it's criminal.

[@violetiolite]

I'm using Premium (I'm on the 2 months free trial) and I thought "maybe I'll pay the subscription to help the youtubers after it finishes". Now, I know how to use add-block, my main browser is Firefox, so it was an active choice. Now though? When December comes the first thing I'm doing is cancelling it. Fuck Google actually. The amount of the ads KZbin has now is absolutely abhorrent. It's impossible to watch shit without an ad blocker. You may have to watch a longer ad than a video. It's painful. It's WORSE for LESS. Don't care. Fuck this. Piracy is always morally right. I hope the EU sues them to oblivion.

[@violetiolite]

Like, I'm fine with paying to not get ads if I think it's fair. I do it for Tumblr for example. Most Tumblr ads were and still kinda are alright. Not too invasive. I have some respect for the Staff (not the CEO though... Although the fact he's not the worst out there is concerning. Matt stop causing drama with Wordpress. Were you annoyed that last time you did that on Tumblr every one made fun of you and YOUR OWN STAFF made a post basically saying "we don't claim him" so you started the drama on Wordpress instead???) so I'm happy to give to the nice staff members that have been there through the repeating buying and selling of the website. KZbin though? It's a monopoly that thinks it can do what it wants. Well, alight. If you're gonna play like that I'll do what I want too.

[@not_eden1051]

Time to pirate youtube videos I guess. what has this world come to

[@Nadestraight]

😂 bros downloading videos using KZbin to MP4 converter and then watching them from Windows media player 😂

[@mikeenslin3009]

@@Nadestraight probably not what they mean at all, he means like streaming it over torrents over a third party player how people do it already with movies.

[@Nadestraight]

@@mikeenslin3009 That seems like such a hassle, there are still adblockers that work, I wouldn't go as far as torrents yet

[@rebirth4119]

KZbin Premium is already more expensive than the standard tier of Netflix($15.49 -which has no ads) and with the new price update it will be as expensive as the highest premium tier of netflix($22.99). I honestly feel the people who are getting screwed the most are the content creators. uBlock Origins still doesn't get flagged(and they're constantly updating it to keep it that way) and even if KZbin makes the ads client-side people can still watch the videos through a video player that doesn't play ads. At this point, the viewers have no incentive to watch ads because its too much and the content creators get less revenue. I used to watch ads because it would support the content creators I enjoyed but I myself had to make the switch because there is just too many ads(collectively and back to back).

[@Gl_3tch]

this shit is ludicrous

[@Nadestraight]

In my head I read this as ludacris (the rapper) 😂

[@Sizzyl]

that's fucking wild, wtf are people even paying for

[@Nadestraight]

Gonna be paying to only see 5 second skippable ads is what I assume, but paying around $10 for that is too steep

[@Mizuryryn]

Imagine buying Premium like a *biggest loser who wants to get bullied everyday, and hand over all your lunch money to very kind bullies* that makes an Netflix a better deal for you

[@Hydde87]

In a few years they'll be forcing you to turn on your camera while watching videos so they can make sure you're staying before the screen during the ad section instead of going to take a piss.

[@p529.]

You should look up that one patent Sony got granted, it will stop the ad if you say the product in the ad

[@Nadestraight]

This reminds me of when Microsoft detected the amount of people in a room using the Kinect camera and made you pay extra for movies if multiple people were in the room.... honestly, you're probably right, it's been tried before in a way!

[@hie_hie_in_da_place]

3 hours and 100+ views? this video did really well in my opinion

[@Nadestraight]

It's 7/10 in creator studio, my average now is like 300 views after 2 hours 🤯

[@hie_hie_in_da_place]

@@Nadestraight 👌👌👌👌👌

[@aboveaveragejoe812]

Don't know how it is in the UK but for the USA cable TV has had 16 mins of ads per hour as the standard for decades

[@Nadestraight]

It's a little lower here in the UK, 12 minutes per hour is the cap

[@austinhernandez2716]

I've had premium since before it was premium, remember youtube red? I've paid hundreds over the years and this is how they're gonna treat me? I stream KZbin like all day everyday, at work, during exercise, while driving. And this is what they're talking about doing to me. I tried remaining loyal but I'm done now, ad blocker it is...

[@Nadestraight]

Yeah KZbin red was the original premium, at like $8 a month. That, is much more reasonable than the $16 it is now/ soon to be, and then the family plan being like $24 is insane

[@austinhernandez2716]

@@Nadestraight you're right, I remember it being $8! Sure inflation happened but it's freaking Google, they can handle it, no excuse for doubling it

[@AndySangule]

Piracy is the answer to all the problems.

[@Nadestraight]

Pirating KZbin seems odd though 😂 are there even sites for that?

[@Kazooke]

@@NadestraightI mean you can watch it with applications that loads the video through the api or download videos through the api

[@Random_user_8472]

@@Nadestraight Yup, you can download youtube videos through third party websites and apps and watch them straight from your own device. That's a kind of piracy I'd say.

[@p529.]

​​@@Nadestraightinvidious and piped spring to mind, it's not piracy as in they reupload but that they provide a different interface that gets rid of the ads

[@BigDaddyDelliott]

Lmao I just use an adblocker. They haven’t detected mine at all

[@Nadestraight]

One day my friend, one day, until then enjoy your ad-free viewing experience haha

[@kateb2643]

The cheekiest thing about the amazon prime ads is that there's a message that says "your movie will continue uninterrupted after these ads". Uh, no that's not what uninterrupted means 🙄 And just fyi if you access KZbin through brave browser on your phone or pc, there are no ads and seemingly no 3 strikes

[@kateb2643]

They might as well have a direct link to Nebula on the home page at this point

[@Nadestraight]

What's nebula?

[@TheWildSideOfShorts]

They beyond stupid for doing this, we will all go back to addblocker

[@gaymer5697]

So they ask youtubera to make content for them for free and on top of that they ask the viewer to pay them 20 +dollars to not get adds. They are not offering any kind of service expect server space if they had some cool featurea for premium then i could see it being okay.

[@Handle423]

If this shit goes through, I'm gonna cancel YT Premium I'm sick of paying nearly double than what I did originally I'm gonna get KZbin Vanced or whatever else

[@scoobidywoobidy7214]

At this point, I'm just waiting for another website to pop up that's just a better version of youtube. It's unlikely due to the logistical challenges to development and audience loyalty, but youtube is killing it's audience loyalty so now it's just a matter of someone making a "New KZbin".

[@Nadestraight]

Twitch had the chance to compete by making livestreams turn into VODs forever, and letting people upload videos, but they never took the opportunity, and they haven't innovated/ added new features really for years. The only competitors to youtube currently are super old sites like Dailymotion and Vimeo, which hardly anyone uses

[@illusstrait]

Why don't they just increase the cost to advertise and reduce the adverts

[@Potatoboii2]

guess they'd rather chase off users than advertisers :(

[@Nadestraight]

Because then they'd have businesses complaining, and potentially people would use alternate methods to promote their business such as facebook ads, instagram ads, twitter ads, reddit ads, etc. In order to stay on top in terms of revenue, KZbin consistently harms the viewers experience in order to keep the advertisers happy

[@jamestonjes8263]

@@Nadestraight I think, if not mistaken.. Further to your point, adverts also work on a bidding system and not a fixed price

[@illusstrait]

@@Nadestraight well. eventually we will all have had enough of subscriptions or advertising fatigue...

[@piggyproalice2]

We’ve had premium lite in Sweden for years

[@piggyproalice2]

Except it was yt premium without ads and no other features and it was cheaper

[@Nadestraight]

That sounds much better! Cheaper + No ads at all sounds like something a lot of people would actually buy

[@rainalystre1877]

Love my yt premium and fell in love with yt music, but I don’t love it enough to pay double the price. Why are they punishing the people who are trying to do it the ‘legit’ way?? Don’t they *want* people to get a subscription and not use ad-blockers? Cause doubling the subscription price sounds like they want people to use adblockers.

[@Nadestraight]

The price listed in the screenshots is AUD, so it's not quite double, but the price in many regions is going up by as much as 50% soon, mostly Europe, which sucks

[@Zorbotics]

are we sure that price increase is not just a screenshot taken by someone from canada or australia?

[@Nadestraight]

It is Australia, but it's still going up to $18 in other countries which is too much, considering the launch price many years ago was like $8.99. It's more than Netflix and Amazon prime combined in almost all countries, that's badddd

[@NotAnAmerican]

1st it happened with uber, then it happened with amazon and ring. now youtube. Soon, apple and android will make running their OS a subscription. The prophecy will come true: You will own nothing, and be happy about it

[@piotrkraska6144]

with how greedy those things got, f them and pirate it all the way

[@redflag0477]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY KZbin MUSIC PLAYLIST

[@Nadestraight]

Just pay extra to keep it 🙃😅

[@nothanniballecktor9633]

If this is true I’m quitting KZbin premium.

[@The_shady_puffer]

WHAT

[@majikalmcmuffin6258]

guess it's time to unsubscribe from KZbin premium, loved it while it lasted...

[@Nadestraight]

Brave browser or ublock origin will save you $16-20 a month

[@NoenD_io]

You can live in russia and have no ads

[@Nadestraight]

No thanks 😅😅

[@NoenD_io]

@@Nadestraight ye Russia life is crap

[@raywuf]

Wtf