YouTube Needs To Fix The Comment Bots...

Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at the ever growing concerns of the comment section. As these systems get smarter we need newer systems to ensure that the only point of feedback to creators from the audience is kept intact. Thanks for watching!
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[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@MysticLGD]

GOS

[@sudadalsaadi5389]

no

[@evanorsomething909]

Love you muta

[@YoMateo.]

W

[@DignityDC]

Bought 30

[@nosweatjonesy]

The most annoying and common bots on the platform are the ones that go like: "Can we just take a moment to appreciate how much effort he puts into his videos" and put a unrelated timestamp and the ones that say "it's finally here"

[@4doorsmorewhores298]

CAN WE JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT OUR LORWD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST?

[@cashhhmere]

i don't even know what's here most of the time 💀

[@pendejadas6933]

Those are the tame ones,. Haven't you seen tge ones that say " i love beating women" or i hate "n-word" or the ones that comment in all caps some stupid rage bait shitty comment

[@lred1383]

@@cashhhmere *all the time

[@boombox2ikik239]

Those ones always bother me and it’s confusing how the links take you to videos you weren’t expecting but it’s the spam that makes it annoying

[@saderin]

The crypto channels are literally a grave yard of creepy bots replying to each other about some guru who wants your bank account.

[@shadowbanned111]

There's always a couple of Musks and crypto babes for good measure as well.

[@mattr2626]

It's the bank account ones and the ones who claim if you "click this link you'll be hacked" that are the worst

[@shawntco]

Any particular examples? I'd love to see this :D

[@666MaRius9991]

@@shawntco Everywhere in the crypto sphere lmao just search any crypto channels and go to the comments

[@Chuck_N0rris]

Exactly. I am reporting 20+ a day but I am about to give up at this point. The supply of bots is never ending.

[@alairosex]

Hate how yt removes the ability to see dislikes but when it comes to actual problems like bots and scammers they don’t even do anything about it

[@BrokenNoah]

It's the optics. Removing the dislike is easy, it makes them look like they are doing something significant. I don't think they can even come up with any solution to actually solving the bot problem here.

[@alairosex]

@@BrokenNoah mhm maybe

[@aircobra1337]

The only benefit of removing dislike is making content for children.

[@vinnyandlin8510]

Some of these bots, particularly the ones I see on Penguinz0's comment section talk about non Combine related CP and insult Charlie. KZbin took action when real predators were making comments where they would timestamp certain frames in videos involving children. I see no reason why they wouldn't do anything about these ones. Just like tf2's bots, these guys are fuckin degenerates and should get the silver bracelets

[@apieceoftoast768]

Finally, it's here- a video that adresses the problem, that is!

[@tauon_]

real

[@Starvaze]

Nice

[@thesysop4998]

they had us in the first laugh not gonna lie

[@mr.bulldops9482]

W

[@olala884]

imposter Mr Beast spams moment. lol

[@FullMoonOctober]

My favorites are the ones that chat with each other for some sort of financial investment genius guru like they're two-bit actors in a poorly directed comercial.

[@SnuSnuDungeon]

I've seen those. They come off like the old shopping channel ads or HGTV reruns

[@bhante1345]

Yeah, just spam them back with the most grotesque notions.

[@beyondobscure]

My favorite thing to do is get a throwout number and text them back with the weirdest shit

[@Azrael__]

No lie, I actually got one of them to delete their comments by slandering the guru and claiming that I lost money with them. But interestingly before they deleted, they tried to defend the guru.

[@tharealestinhurr]

^

[@MrBrockHeinz]

The financial side of KZbin is the worst tbh. Constant Bitcoin scams, impersonations, fake conversations, bots mass upvoting themselves. It never ends.

[@mattr2626]

Jesus Christ this is so true. Had to stop watching these videos because it was just all bots

[@I_quit_trolling_now]

I’m better than muta

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

@@mattr2626 Only way to stop it.

[@RodWaffle]

@@I_quit_trolling_now Case and point

[@henrik1743]

Agreed

[@thelocalcrusader9522]

I remember on the official podcast they were talking about how KZbin would use the bots as an excuse to outright remove the comment section

[@Rctdcttecededtef]

Come again

[@embroideredragdoll]

This needs more attention

[@tewwx]

Where is the podcast about that?

[@GooberInternet]

OH GOD THEY ACTUALLY COULD

[@Meimoons]

To remove?? Explain this more

[@colonfist]

theyre all either: > sick bots mocking the death of an influencer/a person to promote their "content" > "finally its here, inserts link" > "ratio + yb better + this you", whoever that zharon guy is > nsfw links with their nsfw profiles > "WOWW YOU DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE" "dont read my profile picture" > simple bots promoting their bland music/content > the religious bot > "can we appreciate the effort" comments > mrbeast profile pictures

[@Child_laborer]

And the racist bots.

[@NotFckingBen]

Agreed, I’m beyond tired of seeing *”Finally it’s here”* and then the world’s sketchiest link

[@Jeffzilla07PHaltacct]

@ahhhcool no.

[@ashton5401]

@ahhhcool damn bro

[@Jeffzilla07PHaltacct]

@@ashton5401 yes

[@magiman2382]

@ahhhcool you ok?

[@Jeffzilla07PHaltacct]

@@magiman2382 no he aint ok.

[@Azrael__]

The auto-moderation bot is not only bad at detecting spam, it often seems to have an agenda.

[@Dan-lq6dg]

you have an agenda!!

[@cartaphilus242]

Yeah KZbin isn't interested in having hateful content on their platform lmao.

[@dakat5131]

Robots in disguise

[@twistedviewlabs]

i'm more of a decepticon man myself.

[@Azrael__]

@@cartaphilus242 Oh no! i'm not even talking about anything that could possibly be construed as "hateful content". I'm talking about everything from talking about certain types of corruption and state propaganda to certain countries (but only the "good" ones) committing crimes against humanity.

[@yerpderp6800]

Something particularly nefarious is that this can be done intentionally in order to stifle discussion over an important topic. It's not done often but there have been times where there's something interesting and I go to the comment section to see what others are saying, and instead lose interest once I see a ton of bots or a single viewpoint being shared. The biggest concern is that the vast majority of societal changes arise as a result of consistent discussion since there needs to be organization. Kind of difficult to organize when you struggle finding real people that share similar views as yourself that don't coincide with the social norm...

[@syvvieon]

Agreed. Certain KZbinrs who get hit really hard by the bots are nigh-impossible to read the comments on. I've given up on reading the comments on a penguinz0 video far too many times to count.

[@nman551]

Truth

[@b7ray32]

This is done on a lot of political videos... just go look at videos uploaded by Texas governor Greg Abbott and see the bots all literally repeating the exact same comments

[@SorbetCitron17]

You're never sure.

[@la-ia1404]

Where are the bots coming from is my question? I'm starting to think its just KZbin doing it.

[@SollowP]

LUnisTechTips did exactly this as well. They got so fed up with bots spamming their videos that they even began using a script to get rid of all the spam.

[@itsdokko2990]

good ol' ThioJoe's script. gotta thank the man for that

[@ruquinn]

it's finally here [rando shit link]

[@rm_steele]

@@BaitPolice wait is theojoe not just a satire channel anymore? that's all i remember from the channel

[@BeetleBuns]

It's sad that an amateur programmer did a better job than all of youtube.

[@rm_steele]

@@BaitPolice interesting

[@dapz]

The greatest default settings KZbin gives to prevent this sort of stuff is “disable links in comments” and “blacklist phrases” like “it’s finally here”. I still click “allow all comments” for every vid I’ve only briefly had any sort of comment bot problem but after that, never. I’ve since been super strict about it, and along with the aforementioned settings, I have a ton of filters and a scripts in place (not sure if they’re still running these days though), it’s strict enough that there is collateral. I don’t really care though, my content is pretty mindless and most of the comments are too. However for anyone reading this who want some ideas, I’ve experimented with: If a person makes more than X identical comments they get instabanned from commenting and those comments get deleted If a persons comment/reply is “negative” enough (as determined by sentiment analysis) comment gets instantly deleted. This isn’t super effective by any means but I thought it was really funny, some people got PISSED. If a person has certain keywords in their username, automatically delete their comments. I originally wanted to do something that could identify anything that remotely looks like “WhatsApp” or whatever in the username but I was told it would be too computationally intensive. Idk how true that is but the idea is there. A more complex word blacklist system that can identify similar looking characters as what they are intended to be read as I might experiment with something like disallowing comments for the first [video length] of time since video is uploaded, or banning the word “first” for the first X minutes of a video upload just for the funnies too

[@MCTAP]

oh my fucking god, dapz whaddup

[@HaryanviKashmiri]

literally 1984

[@Stryfe52]

@@HaryanviKashmiri “FIRST-“ *gets shot in the head*

[@nicetrichek]

Dapz watsup, nice comment btw, I agree

[@Klabbity_Kloots]

The Dystopian Comment Section Created by Dapz

[@urphakeandgey6308]

Correction: The comment section WAS the best part. Aside from the bots, when they made dislikes useless, the comments became crap. It's just generic BS, stolen jokes, and pandering. YT comments have been pathetic since around the mid-2010s.

[@sirnunyabuiz6529]

Correct, it has annoyed me to be honest on so many channels people just can't make a normal comment, it's all just boring ass jokes you quite literally see 1500x on the same video like Me : omg (insert text) Also me: 👀 Or whatever, even just cornier ones that are literally just repeating what the video contains like hello mf? we also have eyes and ears, don't need you to repeat that shit because you can't make a regular comment regarding the video or topic.

[@miguelzurita3216]

Maybe its because I watch different stuff than you but the videos I watch have an active discussion. I see some bots, some people are trolls, and some are probably people just venting online, but most comment are people having a conversation.

[@HolyApplebutter]

One joke that gets on my nerves a loy now is, "When the world needed rhim most, he finally returned!" or something like that. I see it all the time and it always gets a lot of likes, so it's near the top.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

@@sirnunyabuiz6529 those can be really funny IMO. It’s also just a format, saying “This man is breaking his back carrying the team and it’s got me so surprised” is less likely to be read then “Me: wonders how this man got a KD of 40:10 One Dude: *Breaks back* Me: ahhhh, that’s how” Not to mention The comments are what KZbin is looking for when used in the algorithm so typing a cringy comment could help the channels you watch. It’s dumb and overblown but some can be good and like many things, it can get a chuckle but I do agree with everything said. Also repeating with a timestamp in the comments can be good for the best bits, although it’s not as needed since they added the replay feature.

[@BallerMiller-hw2sf]

Sometimes it’s just a quote from the video and doesn’t add anything.

[@embroideredragdoll]

I’ve been seeing bot comments that are racist or talking about how they do unspeakable things to loved ones of creators, children and animals. It’s fucking disgusting.

[@msgg11]

I've noticed the dead family members or black creators getting N-word bot a lot. Not a great thing to see daily

[@TiagoTiagoT]

How come despite bots being so obvious that you could write a simple manual filter to catch them; Google's mighty algorithm lets them thru repeatedly despite reporting?

[@LifeCompanionDogs8083]

Because engagement is money

[@BeetleBuns]

even after multiple reports most of them stay, I've given up even reporting the damn things

[@lillasagna5487]

@@BeetleBuns same

[@toomanyaccounts]

why is it I on a cooking vid not put a link to another cooking vid but these spam bots can post the same spam link in hundreds of replies on the same video?

[@Blosp]

@@toomanyaccounts youtubers can choose whether to allow links or not

[@CyrusOfNaias]

This isn't an issue. It's a feature. And KZbin encourages it

[@ball56]

@Kavetion speaking of the devil, there it is

[@sexygirlmax2019]

@@ball56 literally

[@admiralkaede]

@Kavetion sorry if this is ment to be ironic but ima still report this because u haven't shown u are not

[@admiralkaede]

@@JustAnObody812 i know but still better then not reporting

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

@Kavetion bye bye

[@LIV_THEDEMON]

One time, I saw inappropriate comments from comment bots when I checked the comment section for a video I watched. There was also comment bots that say racial sl*rs and/or have a racial sl*r in their channel name. What makes me angry about this is that KZbin is never gonna do anything about the comment bots.

[@SundrySun90]

I tweeted at KZbin about it at first being pedo comments and/or impersonations and they only told me to report. They don’t give a sh*t about what we have to say. Now these bots are using racial slurs

[@SylvesterLazarus]

Malicious bots: "Click on this link to recieve x amount of money/followers/the coordinates to Atlantis!" KZbin bot filter: "All fine, move along!" Honest old SOG fans: "I hope to see more haunted gaming! Pls, make some more episodes Muta! Love you!

[@SylvesterLazarus]

​@Phlynx Absolutely not. But here's a link where you can leard more about the subject for only $399.99 per minute, you only need to give us the creditcard info of 3 of your family members who will also recieve extra gift codes...

[@eggdude7087]

@@SylvesterLazarus kk bet it's on the front 4016 back is 6341

[@brunettebi4111]

Another example- Someone: *sends death threats* YT admins: I sleep. *People call out the awful person* YT admins: NO.

[@billy65bob]

I'm of the opinion that google is doing this deliberately. A lot of my comments (and people responding to me) just vanish and are rendered inaccessible, and the bots are posting with impunity. Their priorities have been completely whack after they abandoned the "don't be evil" motto in 2015.

[@BigGayIncorporated]

makes ya wonder... lol

[@DakotaofRaptors]

I hate that

[@pendejadas6933]

I'd say that it's simply not an issue for them, it doesn't not generate money nor it prevents them from making money, they just don't give a shit those greedy bastards

[@CakeZombieOnTop]

FINALLY ITS HERE! haha jk

[@HanDaimond]

Of course, Google themselves are using bots in every social media possible, including their own KZbin platform. They're not going to "fix" the bot situation, they enable it.

[@MiGujack3]

First season was just pr0n bots and random YT links. Season 2 was upgraded bots stealing other peoples comments, also the rise of verified bots. Season 3 was the rise of telegram bots and nick name bots, link bots got even crazier as well. Season 4 (current) are entire THREADS of bots discussing each other promoting financial scams trying to look legit..

[@Javed-xf4gf]

They should make movie on it

[@kingdracobonechiller]

Season 3 and 4 also has those racist bots that use racial slurs and have the swastika in their name and profile pic along with a nazi salute also. It's disgusting

[@ghostlyswat12]

It’s finally here

[@ghostlyswat12]

I kid I’m not a bot lol

[@rroy9985]

I'm better than muta

[@RunicSigils]

They're not going to. I've been keeping a bookmark folder of all of the ones I've straight up reported the account of. Weeks later every single one of them are still around, spamming their scams. They don't care. It's just more interaction to them. I am legitimately starting to wonder if maybe they're even behind it trying to make extra money.

[@seregagerassimov4864]

If they are, god DAMN it would be a thing to laugh at. Corporations do love to act like cartoony villians, don't they?

[@peterkennedey9869]

What bothers me is all the fake accounts with no content or subscribers commenting democratic ideologies and dismissing all content that doesn't support their narrative. That needs to change.

[@dracothegolden]

at this point youtube is more likely to remove the comment section then fix the bots

[@mitingtwotch]

thats actually true

[@infinitespinalsurgeryglitch]

exactly

[@zacharyallbrook5162]

Yeah what I'm saying so we should stop asking yt ro do something about it because that's what's gonna happen yt does not fix things they remove things

[@Dethmeister]

They probably want to do that anyway and this gives them an excuse.

[@sammybosak10]

Don't give them ideas

[@JoyfulStyle]

KZbin hiding Dislikes, coupled with untreated bot problems like this makes it seem like they WANTED people to get misinformed lmao Imagine seeing a "guide" video, seeing that it has no dislikes because it's hidden, and the comments is stuff like "don't read my name!" And "can we appreciate the effort into these videos?"

[@Exerium0]

KZbin speed running destruction any%

[@MrNoot39449]

Not to mention hiding comments from the few genuine human beings on this godforsaken platform

[@johnmemes6447]

Not to mention that’s a corporation that is owned by google

[@DimaWydad1908]

Finally it’s here too

[@I_quit_trolling_now]

I’m better than muta

[@russelgabrielobusan5501]

every bot in on youtube be like: Congrats you have gift🎁

[@urphakeandgey6308]

What kills me is spam accounts posting links 24/7, but when I post a link, the comment is *_immediately_* deleted upon refresh. *_HOW_* and *_WHY???_* It's impossible to link sources on YT, but not literal spam???

[@itsyoboibrent]

My thoughts exactly. KZbin is a multi-million dollar corporation and you're telling me they can't afford people to fix this mess? A'ight, makes sense I guess.

[@dakat5131]

After all, the company deals with email spam, they've got loads of technologies for analyzing data, and yet it seems like KZbin seems to be ignored.

[@DirtyGeorge]

@Kavetion here

[@mortenera2294]

@Kavetion Ok boomer

[@chrisw6164]

*multi-billion

[@bread1830]

I mean if your going off just the KZbin company than it’s like 180billion and your right. If your going off the parent company it’s worth 1.5trillion.

[@Corklops]

It's a huge problem for livestreams as well. I have to use sub only mode, and the bots still come in now and then spamming with names containing malware links and suggestive words, implying its some sort of pornography. It's exhausting.

[@placeeb9676]

@Captain Child尺卂卩乇my brain hurts

[@MasterCraft430]

The worst part about these spam bots is that they can upload videos. KZbin is becoming worse. Let’s fire the ceo and get a new one

[@ninjapirate123]

I can easily spot a bot and scammer on YT

[@trala8911]

I honestly can’t believe there aren’t more news stories about this. It feels like something that annoys and bothers so many people, and yet no-one in the mainstream media bothers to talk about it, even when the bots are spamming shit about child r@p3 and dead content creators.

[@Mrnoobestreturns]

Yeah like I delete any bot comments I can find But overall how I would fix this if possible is straight up shadow ban or auto delete comments that post links But still it’s pretty dam difficult issue to fix

[@harryxyz2982]

@Kavetion google show me this guys balls

[@lukav3509]

@Kavetion irony

[@sirnunyabuiz6529]

@Kavetion ur a random, shut up bot.

[@pairofyeezys]

@Kavetion Nice joke bro

[@FinesserX_Triniidadii]

The youtube shorts bots just have an entire catalog of the same video that they uploaded 400 times in the last hour and you just get bombarded every 4 swipes with a blatant scam video.

[@Twinklethefox9022]

Ah so they got ahold of that

[@jamesvogt4739]

I keep getting stuff about "follow this dude, he's giving away money" or something about free robux that targets children. I keep reporting them, but it's like a Hydra.

[@Ryuuko3]

All i see is roblox spam in youtube shorts

[@kiwigaming09]

@@jamesvogt4739 I have lost count of the "cLiCk My LiNk To GeT rObUx It FrEe JuSt FiLl OuT ThIs PaGe" I really just report every one I see

[@nanda28cc]

@@jamesvogt4739 lottery winner sht? Yeah saw that

[@Magnum_Express]

2 years after this video was posted and the comment bots are worse than ever. Not just scams, spam, and stupid comments, but literally advocating illegal activities and linking to sites that show illegal content. KZbin's response seems to be little more than "meh".

[@Yet333]

The ones I DETEST the most are “ IF YOURE READING THIS,KNOW THAT YOURE LOVED AND THINGS WILL GET BETTER”. Aaaaaa!!!🤬

[@imfuckingtired2835]

It's to the point where I don't know if they're bots, someone who's just spamming comments on tons of videos, or someone trolling pretending to be a bot. The world has been plunged into chaos and its not ok

[@lucasmcdowell9360]

Some of the most noticeable signs for me is they have a really pretty girl as their pfp, doesn’t have to be anything x rated just a beautiful woman to grab your eye, they have hundreds to thousands of likes but only a small handful of reply comments, they have a famous creators pfp, they have a fake check mark, or the comment reads like they don’t speak English well. Or the classic and most annoying one to me “can we just take a moment to appreciate “

[@luvuberrymuch49]

I can't believe this didn't get fixed when techno passed.... I've never even watched him but bots at the time were leaving straight up evil comments about him and they still didn't care enough to actually fvckin fix their system.

[@BlueRGuy]

A worse techno hate bots has been going rampant now on MULTIPLE FUCKING CHANNELS, SAYING A BYPASSED N WORD WITH HARD R. How is KZbin so blind in these kind of situation? Like holy shit that's the worse one yet

[@tomcat_1484]

@@BlueRGuy Not only techno, but I've also seen bots poking fun at Markiplier's niece who died 4 years ago. The comments on the his videos about her death are even worse just filled with bots saying the most vile things about his long since passed niece and her father.

[@BlueRGuy]

@@tomcat_1484 Lmfaoo looks below you 💀

[@nman551]

@@tomcat_1484 Yeah that’s really messed up

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@Captain Child尺卂卩乇 Speaking of the Devil. You are definitely the worst one.

[@lisaa8795]

Thanks for talking about this. I'm here because an attempt to explain a previous comment was sarcasm was mysteriously deleted from the comments - it doesn't show up in my comment history either. It was an innocuous comment about sarcasm sometimes not working very well when writing comments. Very weird.

[@Buzzer_Bee]

There is a comment bot that only viewers can see and the creator of the video can’t see it so there’s nothing they can do

[@CyanDumBell_MC]

The fact someone like ThioJoe manage to make a tool that can detect and report bots with ease, I honestly have no idea why KZbin can't fix or minigate it

[@Lowmanification]

If they do, the bots will just change to evade. Not that this should stop them, but bots are always going to be a thing and the best that can be done is minimize their impact on the users enjoyment.

[@pendejadas6933]

They don't give a shit simply because the combating bots does not generate money

[@williamdrum9899]

Because they don't care

[@anironfarm6056]

Because trying to get rid of bots will cost more money than they would make in the short term. They’re not even being standout greedy here. It’s simple cost-effectiveness analysis. Fuck capitalism

[@Code7Unltd]

It's about third and second-world click farmers. This annoyance is what they call "passive income".

[@daydreamerlumi]

They really need a report username/profile picture/impersonation function. 90% of the time you can tell the bots just by their usernames being really inappropriate or an impersonation of a big content creator. The fact that the filters are limited to comments and not inappropriate usernames is kind of ridiculous, when if you made a thumbnail with one of those account’s profile pictures, it would get flagged by youtube so fast.

[@keyboardmaverick1100]

Darn it's not here yet /*NO*/ (how do I bold text on comments?)

[@Periwinkleaccount]

@@keyboardmaverick1100 type a space, then an asterisk (these things *) then the word, then another asterisk, then a space. It should look like *this*. As in * this * but without the spaces between the this and the asterisks.

[@xponen]

that can be reported by opening their channel, press About, and then Report user.

[@killertruth186]

The impersonation part is really sketchy or really hard to prove.

[@Squeaxx]

@@xponen nothing happens to their channels though.

[@orion4624]

I always find the comments where the bots are talking to each other about some "Professional Broker/Stock Market Analyst" pretty darn hilarious. I end up joining in and making dumb as heck replies like: "Oh yes, I have talked to that Analyst! They called me racial slurs and slept with my friend's Grandma. I totally wouldn't recommend them, they're huffing the devils lettuce."

[@benzobrimzs]

Yeah I ve done that lol

[@sircat7539]

Ive Seen Different Bots That Say The Same Thing Like for example "Omg (Link To 18+ Website) I've Been Looking For Motivation Can You Post A Video Of Your Workout Routine" Or smth like that it is so annoying

[@nebula0024]

It's finally here! Muta addressing spam bots! Seriously though, these bots are super annoying.

[@melchorochinang9005]

@Kavetion dangit another bot

[@666MaRius9991]

@Kavetion I'm better than Kavetion

[@RealUnknown.]

Today I kept getting a bunch of comment bot spam replies saying “is finally here” under my comments, I saw it popped up on my notifications and realized it had a link to the video is advertising.

[@fr0ck360]

Remember the old days when desperate 10 year olds trying to self advertise their channels to make their moms getting gaming chairs?

[@dsvidz3738]

@@fr0ck360 B-But... It's finally here! Th-the video no one asked for is finally in existence...

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

*Finnally it's here*

[@annajohnston9528]

Finally it’s here! *insert Rick Ashley never going to give you up music video link*

[@JSSQuelloAutentico]

ITS FINALLY HERE

[@crafteariee]

Thank you so much for bringing this up! It's been pissing me off these last couple of weeks and usually prevents proper comment discussions from happening as these are really distracting. I fear that these bots have malicious links that could pose future security breaches and as someone who had a pretty stressful experience from account security in the past, I wish this actually gets fixed up properly, much like the myriad of other big issues showing KZbin's cracks in management design.

[@Sviztelen]

I get spam boths on my channel and I barely get over 100 views per video, I have to delete them all. It sucks.

[@bluewhale7040]

4D chess bro

[@mainstream2226]

I rarely engage in the comment section anymore because of how fucking prolific the bots have become. Usually you can tell when there's a human on the other end of a comment, but then there's the times where it could be someone that just doesn't give a shit about spelling/grammar/punctuation, someone that doesn't grasp English, or a god damned bot. It's shame too because the comments section used to be a fun melting pot of discourse to either join in on or laugh at and while I see the concept comment threads/forums/reply sections or what have you as digitally screaming in to the void, except the void is an innumerable amount of microcosms that only exist to those participating in them, I at least like to scream in the void with other sapients.

[@ardius9777]

It was always a cesspool all the way back in 2009 buddy, the bots just add more shit to the septic tank. I remember how I used to engage in countless flame wars in the comments section before I just decided to turn off notifications for replies lol

[@radar_the_fox]

The most annoying bots are the reply ones where they say I HATE (nword) BECAUSE MY CONTENT IS BETTER !!

[@josephleebob3828]

well if you reply to him back and he replies too then its probably not a bot

[@zacharysmith4787]

Congratulations, you win! Click my profile!

[@Fatchick2316]

@@radar_the_fox And the most Common, too!

[@DontWorryImNotImportant]

Finally somebody with a big enough audience said what needed to be said, thank you

[@___Bruh__]

Penguinz0 definitely has the worst case of comment bots. The first 10 replies on every comment are bots

[@krus4ding_b4k0n]

5:30 I fully agree with that. Like roaches across an unclean floor, bot accounts sprawl across both social media platforms and the internet.

[@MagicalMedic]

Glad something's happening about it. Every video, I've been reporting those spam comments talking about harming kids and animals. You know the one.

[@easypete3630]

I remember this one bot. I think it was Savetion but it was spamming gender reassignment surgery videos.

[@Dethmeister]

Yeah, the problem with reporting those is that even if they get terminated, they are just spam accounts. The videos that show on the channel are actually just linked from the main channel. The main channel doesn't comment spam so it doesn't get busted.

[@mr.sirsam]

@@easypete3630 holy shit

[@easypete3630]

@@mr.sirsam revolt

[@f-22raptorlandingzone30]

Oh yeah it was killing animals. My dumbass thought it said it liked killing people like a 2005 edgelord deviantart user

[@Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something]

It’s genuinely insane how bad the comment bots have gotten; the first *two* notifications that I got on my account were comment bots linking to some random website Let me repeat that The situation is *so bad* that people are literally having their first *notifications* be robots reply to one of your comments or commenting on one of your videos

[@Gomenimam]

how funny would it be if i did that, but id probably be marked as spam unlike the actual bots that youtube allows the existence of

[@JustAnObody812]

@Captain Child尺卂卩乇 speaking of the devil's spawn, there it is

[@parakeetbudgie]

I got a comment from a bot on a random time stamp and it linked to some inappropriate website but I deleted the comment

[@Gage_The_Comrade_or_Something]

@@parakeetbudgie you really shouldn’t be clicking on links like that; there’s a lot of sites that just infect your device or PC by just clicking on links to the website. It’s so terrifying how easy it is to get malware nowadays

[@cooldudlet]

@@Gomenimam old youtubers know that, so do I.

[@Tenshii_Artii]

Bots are like a prison. The are the worst. It’s literally gotten so bad that Bots are replying to other bit comments.

[@TheCandidFool]

KZbin knows that the issue is out of control, and they've acknowledged it, but they clearly don't care enough to want to fix it. And that, is really sad to see.

[@Leongon]

What KZbin needs to do is to allow creators to shadow-ban username strings, and grab these bans from checkmarked accounts and the most repeated entries get migrated to the whole site automatically. That totally eliminates these bots. And for impersonators... I don't think it's rocket science, but if an username and pfp has a 95% or higher match to the channel they are posting a comment on, should be automatically ghosted, banned or held for review.

[@PokeUFO]

Oh no comment bot

[@PokeUFO]

@DRAWING ART-راغب don’t worry I’m not a bot click here ______

[@RD1R]

You're not just some chubby Indian guy, you're our chubby Indian guy ❤️

[@kapilr.4768]

damn bro... bigfoots are running wild in grove street.. 🤣🤣😂😂🤣

[@GrzegorzSobkowicz]

It's so annoying that those bots can post some weird links, but I often can't post a link that someone asked for, like someone's Twitch VOD

[@schrodingersgat4344]

I've heard allot about "Russian" Bots in the last few years. Only ones I have confirmed as "foreign" are German, Japanese and Chinese.

[@dan18503]

I've seen russian bots in some news channels from my country. But honestly i don't care where it come from. Bots are hella annoying

[@BeetleBuns]

the "russian bots" for the most part are just anyone that some overly opinionated, argumentative lefty disagrees with. The real bots are every nationality, because anyone can be a script kiddy

[@RampagingChipmunk]

I’ve seen the Russian ones on Pinterest of all places.

[@El-E009]

FINALLY IT'S HERE We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I (do I) A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (to say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

[@Zipppyart]

@@El-E009 B O T Sike.

[@mrgreen3002]

KZbin got rid of dislikes, but kept the bots.

[@evanorsomething909]

@ahhhcool wow how edgy! I bet you’re very proud of yourself!

[@Mr.Pixelated]

@@evanorsomething909 tf did this nigga say

[@antwanmitchell6267]

Huh

[@rogueraccoon1840]

@UCVJ7hybtSpkqjKj93KDMbew he keeps saying the N word and says he's makes better videos but I think he's using a bot to spam these stupid comments everywhere

[@thej7362]

@fours04 chill out dude

[@DarthVader30411]

Great video, it's nice to learn how basic comment moderation works on the platform. I always hated those spam bots and the telegraph ones are the common ones now and i report them but i feel like KZbin doesn't do a good job at removing them as i see them alot.

[@asleepyb0i400]

I’ve been saying this for months. Seeing every single comment being promoted with stupid shit under it gets under my skin- and it really pisses me off when it’s under MY comment

[@ghostlyhousehorrors]

You know out of all the animosity and the stupid fights in KZbin, It's beautiful how all of us can agree and united in our hatred for the bots. Also to comment in ahead of time, "Hi Savetion/louielolbruh bot, still picking and eating boogers as usual?"

[@mileidyclass]

That guy is really fucked up. Allegedly he had actual illegal stuff on his computer and Discord (or one of his Discords, I forget if he's someone that has moved servers, he seems like the type to do it). I haven't seen any of this myself (nor do I want to) so this is just me saying this based on what others have said.

[@ghostlyhousehorrors]

@@mileidyclass if he got illegal stuff, it makes since why he's always on the move, trying to cover his tracks from law enforcement, avoiding any opening for an investigation. Damn it goes beyond edgy troll spaming shitty content, dudes dabbling in illegal stuff, I hope one day he slips and it all comes back and bites him in the ass.

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

@@mileidyclass holy shit

[@dudeSRhunter]

where are the bots?

[@MuzikBike]

@@mileidyclass I'd be more surprised if that wasn't the case

[@BowserZeki]

Best part about KZbin disabling monetization without a single warning and make your life miserable instant.

[@TheProjecttian]

*_:/ happens to me for having a weird name_* *i also got falsely reported many times. As a creator it's pretty dumb* Anyone else a victim?

[@FyReO]

@@TheProjecttian u dont have monetization so what are you talking about

[@TheProjecttian]

@@FyReO *I'm not talking about monetization, I'm talking about keeping my channel safe from termination*

[@TheProjecttian]

@@FyReO *Anybody even if they're not monetized, could still lose their channel before they even begin to win money*

[@TheProjecttian]

@@FyReO *But thanks for asking!*

[@Skarry]

Muta, I'm glad you saw my tip about "focus LOCK your camera!" lots of love, cheers.

[@WrecklessEating]

Ever since they allowed links in comments the bots went wild.

[@RazorM97]

So true.

[@claytongray7656]

KZbin no longer allowing channels to hide their subscriber count is one of the only good things they've done in recent years.

[@cynthiamercer2113]

First

[@user-64896]

very much agreed

[@panqueque445]

Man I miss when KZbin comments were cancer because of the stupidity and toxicity and not fucking bots.

[@JimmyBoy9878]

Member when the most toxic comments were by pewd fans in like 2015?

[@Ilivedbih]

@@JimmyBoy9878 I'd say it was his haters back in the day lol. They used to spam how he's gay as if it was an insult, or that they're gonna r*pe Marzia and other messed up sht 🤷🏾‍♂️.

[@ghostlyhousehorrors]

@Abby lmao bot can't even spell it right.

[@Narrativerse]

@YeaMan How is this one bot still not dead? It's 2 years old and I see it everywhere.

[@Narrativerse]

@Abby It's for "page".

[@tuanoful]

The problems with the internet today: Bots Ads OUT OF CONTROL!

[@ElliotsLegoCreations]

Paid memberships too for the list!

[@eavyeavy2864]

@@ElliotsLegoCreations pauper

[@FrahdChikun]

Came back to this video after seeing bot after bot on Muta's latest video. KZbin needs to get their shit together, but we all know they won't. I can barely scroll through a top comment's reply section without having to sort through a bunch of bots shouting profanity, advertising their channel, or laughing at someone's death.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Same. I'm getting sick of seeing those bots everywhere, and they occasionally retaliate once you tried to confront them. And about laughing someone's death. Channels like Logan Roof deserves to be banned for life.

[@DexieTheSheep]

I have an idea for this: Put a pretty long delay before comments actually show up on the videos. A lot of anti-cheats have wave-bans so the cheat client developers can't just figure out what's getting them banned and immediately patch it, and instead they get banned like 4 hours later to make it more difficult to test their bypasses. The same way, if there was like a 6 hour delay before comments got posted, combined with the strong AIs over at KZbin, it would be much less of a cat and mouse game, since KZbin's AI has the time advantage on their side, and it would take spammers like a year to figure out bypasses that they currently do in a week.

[@Nahan_Boker94]

Agreed also its also fix those early commenter that not even watch the video that fishing early likes and clout saying "thank you for this quality, its a good day ____ is uploading, i hope you all well and happy today, etc" these shallow ass comments needs to die

[@DexieTheSheep]

@@Nahan_Boker94Agreed. And... would you look at that! See those words above your comment? There's a guy who didn't receive enough attention from his peers and relies on internet rage to calm his insecurities and prove he still has power!

[@admiralkaede]

honestly they should just prevent acounts that havnent been around for a week from commenting

[@Few_dinner]

@@admiralkaede yea but there a lot of comments from bot channels that are actually old, so that's pretty useless

[@admiralkaede]

@@Few_dinner it would still make it harder for more new bots as older bots get banned

[@thephilosopher7173]

Imagine how bad it'll get when the AI gets better. This is probably why they slow-release new AI. Ppl will do all kinds of crazy things as the tech gets better.

[@trucid2]

Yeah, look up GPT3 and the nonprofit company that made it. They promised to release all of their work for free but after making GPT3 theybchanged the company to for-profit (how does that even work?) And only license out the use of GPT3 and for a fee. Shenanigans abound.

[@neekonmorad9466]

@Kavetion Lmao speak of the devil

[@jazzygryphon]

@@neekonmorad9466 Aww shit. Here we go again!

[@Dhurl421]

Thanks for this video. I spend most of my time on a Critikal video reporting bots and not actually watching or listening. And yet it seems to do nothing.

[@michalbotor]

btw. this is exactly why i fell in love and got addicted to youtube in the first place. the comment section. the heated discussion that ensued after the video was posted. and not necessarily the video itself. but now it is totally ruined. i was never receiving much replies, one or two sometimes. but it was still nice to have someone to respond to my idea with their own. now i only receive scams back. 😅

[@RvBnerd618]

Imagine someone having an argument over a game of Uno in the comment section like in that MW2 video. I have to agree, I do miss when people can act childish in a debate and you'd just be sitting there eating popcorn, seeing how the dick measuring contest will unfold.

[@michalbotor]

@@RvBnerd618 exactly good old days!

[@ItsKagiVids]

The weird thing about this at least towards my perspective is that this is only a more recent development there didn't use to be this much spam on the platform not like 3ish year's ago at least not to the degree it's at not.

[@sleepshouter5017]

Fr it wasn’t even really a noticeable problem, now there’s so many that it’s become part of the norm and we’re expected to just ignore them. They’re like homeless people in NYC

[@zimplifyze]

Agreed. Definitely a recent development or otherwise has become much easier to do as of recently.

[@sleepshouter5017]

@@BaitPolice thanks for the advice officer, here’s a donut 🍩

[@MiGujack3]

First season was just pr0n bots and random YT links. Season 2 was upgraded bots stealing other peoples comments, also the rise of verified bots. Season 3 was the rise of telegram bots and nick name bots, link bots got even crazier as well. Season 4 (current) are entire THREADS of bots discussing each other promoting financial scams trying to look legit.

[@EternalNico1]

@@BaitPolice for a multi billion dollar business they should not just ignore them

[@Waffle4569]

KZbin 2023: "We've decided to remove the comment section. You know, some websites don't even have one."

[@markgomez8228]

Stop do you know these comments section is there please youtube that's enough deleting just bring back the dislikes and everything else no more deleting

[@Chuck_N0rris]

I am hoping for the downfall of youtube at this point. The only thing keeping me here is the superior amount of content. If any other platform manages to compete with that, I am out.

[@gmnrggggg]

KZbin should make a better block system that actually blocks you from seeing anything from a channel like comments and their channel entirely

[@dewb8053]

It's a strange situation. This issue can't be fixed if we don't talk about it, but by talking about it you give the bots exactly what they want, thus ultimately just giving them more incentive to keep making those comments. The only way to truly win is to ignore them, but ignoring them doesn't really solve the issue either. (I am mostly referring to the troll/bait bots here to be fair, but it does also apply to some other type of bots to a lesser extent)

[@Code7Unltd]

I got a better answer. Give region locking to every uploader (corporate entities can region-lock videos already), block 2nd and 3rd world nations from the video. Most of the "big" phone farmers operate from places like India, Bangladesh or Egypt for the reason of cheap mobile service.

[@WinterMan.]

youtube might take action if people take this to twitter, otherwise they won't care.

[@exoduswick156]

I L̳O̳V̳E̳ B̳E̳A̳T̳I̳N̳G̳ U̳P̳ bots on YT A̳N̳D̳ R̳A̳P̳I̳N̳G̳ those pesky bots BECAUSE I MADE A PROMISE TO FIGHT THEM TILL LAST DROP OF SWEAT

[@nick.p.9328]

You're giving them what they want if you reply to them. Talking about the issue as a whole is not helping their case.

[@Razer5542]

I fucking hate how these bots are literally everywhere, i get them all the time on my replies on other channels.. Can't stand that shit..

[@SundrySun90]

They claimed they’re fixing it. Really it’s getting worse. Some of these spam comments are using racial slurs now

[@donaldn5798]

It's bullshit, tired of these bots

[@SundrySun90]

@@donaldn5798 I tweeted to KZbin and they threw me the same bullshit as the last time. This time I responded harshly telling them these bots are using slurs and the way they're handling it is so lackluster and their report system is terrible

[@donaldn5798]

@@SundrySun90 it's crazy how they've let the platform deteriorate, I started reporting them aswell

[@SundrySun90]

@@donaldn5798 I've been reporting them since it first started. KZbin isn't doing anything on Twitter besides telling people where to go to report. Which is the worst way possible to respond to the situation

[@Kairibeachga]

Not me scrolling the comments for bots 💀💀💀

[@bigheadrat9493]

I miss the days where yt bots weren't as common as they are right now

[@horribleperson9531]

My content is way better than "someordinarygamers" 🔥🔥🔥

[@Burke896]

Its finally here...

[@exoduswick156]

@@Burke896 Not your father...

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

same

[@Gerd0]

As a KZbinr who doesn't really get much engagement, it warms my heart to see the comment notifications and then open it up to find a German bot advertising an adult site.

[@somesandman8328]

I think that allowing all kinds of comments is the best option of them all, since ppl with a smaller following will usually have the time to check all comments. The choice of allowing foul comments is one I would consider keeping, but for spam bots, it also makes sense reporting them and that

[@tjsynkral]

KZbin should not offer to block comments from users who aren't 1-week subscribed, BUT it would be brilliant to hold those for review or to make the long term subs less likely held for review.

[@CryptoGrit]

One of the biggest issue is that I feel that KZbin punishes these channels that have spam comments, because it gets sense that you have low watch time and many spam comments.... so it's hard when you are starting out :/

[@HeyRavenousRaven]

The bots are getting out of hand, especially when it comes to being very negative when it comes to the passing of someone. It sucks that we'd have to go to Twitter to reach out to them. What happens if Twitter does get shut down one day? KZbin, get your butt together. ...Please.

[@exoduswick156]

I L̳O̳V̳E̳ B̳E̳A̳T̳I̳N̳G̳ U̳P̳ bots on YT A̳N̳D̳ R̳A̳P̳I̳N̳G̳ those pesky bots BECAUSE I MADE A PROMISE TO FIGHT THEM TILL LAST DROP OF SWEAT

[@parakeetbudgie]

@@exoduswick156 r aping is not fighting

[@parakeetbudgie]

I mean it still causes bad things to the person

[@Starvaze]

@@exoduswick156 touchè b-b.. no wait...uh ............real impersonating bot person?...no no that's not right...

[@exoduswick156]

@@Starvaze isnt it? no... wait can it be? nah,.

[@susie173]

I've noticed alot more bots that will say random racial slurs and make references to r$pe and abuse

[@earlofill2580]

I see bots like Yeaman and other ones that show up super often that just straight up find the top comment and reply with something like, “my content is better than (channel name/creator)” and I report it every single time but I still see them constantly promoting something linked on their channel to someone else’s, like a music video or something with less than 5k views. There is also a lot that just copy paste the top comment at a certain time and have something promoting in their username or profile pic.

[@bradleyjenkins2271]

“Let’s get beyond the shaker” Swear to god these are the only ad read I never skip xD

[@Hakun325]

One of the biggest things I've always thought they could do to stop a lot of the really big and actually detestable message bots (the ones that talk about VERY bad stuff) is remove the ability to use special characters, outside of whatever exceptions may be required, in comments and names. I don't see any real reasons as to why comments or names would need characters like underlined a's or whatever, and that just helps these sorts of bots say whatever they want without being flagged automatically. I don't know if this would every actually work, as I don't spend too much time in the comment sections anymore, but this is something that I have thought for quite a while.

[@nyancatec]

Some countries have languages with special characters like ż, ź, etc. Those should be allowed so people can write in their language. All other unicodes that are worthless should be disallowed.

[@MrNoot39449]

Restricting this platform even more than it already îs sounds like a bad idea

[@AlwayzDope]

Also, If you're looking for more proof they are bots, check each channels 'About' section. They are usually all made within the same time frame. Obviously this isn't very helpful if it's just one bot

[@Sonofawildanimal4241]

90% of comments could be BOTs

[@midimusicforever]

It's amazing that a company that made an AI that tricked a moron into thinking that it was sentient, couldn't make an AI that can identify the most super generic obvious bot spam comments.

[@crazyguy_1233]

The spam bots do get irritating especially when they spam the same comment hundreds of times.

[@applegamerspace3321]

Inr

[@nukedukem420]

Lately some of the comments I've been reading from those bots have been very vulgar and degrading... Clearly I can't repeat what they're saying... but I'm sure people know exactly what I'm talking about.