Skip was outta pocket, and to say that Tom is a better athlete than Shannon is crazy. Shannon was a straight beast on the field, played the position that makes QB's shine on short yardage plays and in the red zone. Skip exposed himself on that show, when people show you who they are, you better pay attention and don't sleep on the warning.
@DontPanicrs Жыл бұрын
Tom was and still is better.
@beezyndee3034 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but all Shannon had to say was cool I played the game u just covered it from the tv and slide line boy
@craigjoseph9374 Жыл бұрын
@@DontPanicrs 😂😂😂
@craigjoseph9374 Жыл бұрын
@@beezyndee3034, true, but it's the principle that mattered to Shannon, he never disrespected Skip.
@bjvu9460 Жыл бұрын
can you define better athlete and what that looks like? shannon is no where near brady or gronk, or kelce and maybe the game has been watered down a lot but if results and statistics is what is used to determine who is better then shannon is all up in his feelings because in his position he is not the goat and doesnt have the stats to make that claim. as much as I dont rock with brady , shannon is not in the same book or level as brady!!! comparing shannon to brady is like comparing kyrie to jordan. stop it
@hbmfproductionstudios_Sav Жыл бұрын
The interviewer didn’t do it justice on how disrespectful skip was
@marleyrasta962 Жыл бұрын
Best comment I just said that without seeing yu saying it first but who the fuck is this interviewer is because he didn’t go in detail of the whole situation where joc could understand better fukkin idiot
@robliberachi Жыл бұрын
At all didn’t even say what Skip really said.
@crackerjacktv5440 Жыл бұрын
He didn't deliver the context properly at all. Skip DISSED Shannon and his career just to big up Brady... Shannon called him on it and Skip doubled down. That's the real story
@renoirrandy7241 Жыл бұрын
You all worse than females, panties always in a bunch
@tonioc7480 Жыл бұрын
Where is Vlad we need his instigating expertise for this one😂🤣
@ProdbyJeoni Жыл бұрын
Asking a dude from Atlanta if they know who Tom Brady is is hilarious to me 😂
@Kingbossdon Жыл бұрын
U cold-blooded for that lol
@layziefngroovy Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️
@chrisbalseiro1505 Жыл бұрын
28-3
@onb23 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@MrLewisjr Жыл бұрын
This comment cut deeply. Sigh
@j.warren757 Жыл бұрын
Skip made it personal because he was losing the debate of a “declining Tom Brady” making it personal was his only out it started with twitter followers that skip has that didn’t really work ….Shannon Sharpe was the best tight end of era and definitely top 3 all time
@mrovey84 Жыл бұрын
Without question… Unc forever changed the position of TE. Prior to Unc, name the tight ends that come to mind… now, since unc… name the tight ends that have come in, u might “skip” over a few (no pun intended)
@kinggodtravis Жыл бұрын
This man broke that shit down so wrong to Joc I wanted to jump thru the camera and be like man your azz ain't telling it right 🤦🏿♂️ Man this what really happened 🤣
@segaming1461 Жыл бұрын
This happens all the time on Vladtv they paraphrase and get it wrong most of the time...we have to remember most of these hip hop interviewers really don't know sports they talk from the outside looking in, and responding to headlines than actually being a fan of the sport or the sports show
@Platform246 Жыл бұрын
For real
@BTCBlizzy Жыл бұрын
I swear. But why didn’t Joc just say “let me look it up real quick.” This is what happens all the time though. Not just here, but IRL. People draw half-ass conclusions from half-ass second hand info without finding the source for themselves.
@segaming1461 Жыл бұрын
@@BTCBlizzy big facts
@growmyportfolio4545 Жыл бұрын
For real...he should of played the video so he can understand
@kidtezzy Жыл бұрын
Whoever asking the question didn’t give Joc no details.Skip was being critical of Shannons production as a HOF player called him jealous and disrespected Shannon to defend Tom. Horrible question. Should’ve asked Joc something different
@robinjohnson1141 Жыл бұрын
💯
@jeromemccowinjm Жыл бұрын
You didn't give Joc enough context I watched this interview live it was crazy
@Jumpman0385 Жыл бұрын
I guess Joc didn’t see the show because it’s more about Skip getting personal with Sharpe tryna shit on him and his NFL career personally because of Sharpe’s beliefs on Brady this season
@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 Жыл бұрын
Cap he ain't go personal...the way Shannon hates on Brady is personal
@ryanr20091 Жыл бұрын
@@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 what did Shannon say that was personal about brady in your mind?
@Teika1987 Жыл бұрын
@@tellitlikeitisfresh6541he don’t hate Brady he hate the fact that people give Brady all the praise when they win but he never has fault when they lose. Nobody wanna call out when he plays bad thats the problem.
@sethhoward9300 Жыл бұрын
How did he shit on Shannon’s career? All he did was say he’s not on Brady’s level when it comes to being talked about as the goat!
@Flyc2 Жыл бұрын
@@sethhoward9300 ok but what does that got to do with Shannon Sharpe and him criticizing Tom Brady for playing bad?
@tevinrivers8544 Жыл бұрын
Joc should of just said “ bra idk nun on that topic “ cs he clearly was talking to talk
@thetruthtv4228 Жыл бұрын
Shannon Sharpe: 😢 Skip Bayless: Put your glasses back on Gucci Mane: Well Damn
@shock_money Жыл бұрын
I don’t think joc understands what’s really going on 😂😂😂😂
@Flyc2 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂💀not at all
@growmyportfolio4545 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't 😃 😃
@Jay1miami Жыл бұрын
Prez grossly misrepresented the reason why Shannon was upset! Shay was mad because skip was willing to take a personal shot/disrespect him in order to take up for Tom Brady. Skip said Shannon is jealous of TB because he had to retire at 35 and Tom is still playing at a high level at 45!
@mikedallas4833 Жыл бұрын
That "offense and defense" take was horrible 🤣🤣
@Platform246 Жыл бұрын
It was lol no sense
@Platform246 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't watch football
@hachibiminato Жыл бұрын
Literally looking for this comment 😂😂
@johnsmith-ko8vq Жыл бұрын
Yah but point he was making was on point ppl to senesetive now days. We know skip never changes his opinion.
@mytriish1977 Жыл бұрын
Yooo😭😭😭 I had to rewind a few times I was lost
@princellasmith7562 Жыл бұрын
Of all the things Skip said in that argument, the most out of pocket thing was when he said Shannon was jealous of Tom in order to completely invalidate anything that Shannon says. That was highly insulting.
@djhollywoodlive6910 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer dropped the ball on this one.
@emmanueljp2449 Жыл бұрын
Joc is completely lost in this subject, I don’t think he really saw how it went down
@FrugalFa Жыл бұрын
Shout out to the Lavar Ball tribute in the beginning 😂
@MafiosoStyle1340 Жыл бұрын
Skip took personal shots at Shannon to stand up for Brady. A regular debate is different. Once you go to a personal level, that’s something else entirely.
@UserOfGass Жыл бұрын
Skip comments sums up the same way VLAD feels about black prominent figures 💀
@lunny0166 Жыл бұрын
Na he ain’t tell joc what all he said
@sethhoward9300 Жыл бұрын
What else needed to be said?
@commonsense3921 Жыл бұрын
@Seth Howard the personal shots Skip took.
@snypes1008 Жыл бұрын
You should have asked him if he saw the video or the clip because apparently Joc did not see it. That’s why his answer is what it is.
@soundwavsonny Жыл бұрын
Shannon and Skip are partners and most likely friends. Sometimes we wrong or offend our friends unintentionally. The important thing is to make it right asap.
@tonytone1395 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@RonJP-pm7jp Жыл бұрын
Was not expecting Joc to be talking about Skip and Shannon.
@mmbeas Жыл бұрын
This what happen when guest come on too frequently. They just searching for shit to talk about
@RonJP-pm7jp Жыл бұрын
@@mmbeas for real. That wasn’t even worth talking about especially if you don’t know what the hell you talking about.
@brooky.mesfin5791 Жыл бұрын
He didn't see the interview that's why he said its not a big deal basically
@tahjlake9940 Жыл бұрын
Is it me or Joc look like Ryan Clark?😂😂
@Deeznutz581 Жыл бұрын
It’s you
@gsportsgaming9387 Жыл бұрын
Definitely you
@BeforeChrist21 Жыл бұрын
You never seen black people before ?
@Ballin_goat91 Жыл бұрын
Joc:” I don’t know what you are talking about. Next question.”
@bbecapp8637 Жыл бұрын
Interviewer got that shit all wrong Damn bro y’all hurting that bad for topics
@DontPanicrs Жыл бұрын
This channel was better when it was only Vlad. That’s why I only watch Vlad interviews, these two just trying to keep an agenda up. If you know you know.
@zacharyminor9593 Жыл бұрын
How he got it wrong??? What are you talking about???
@gspar116 Жыл бұрын
Joc clearly didn’t see the clip
@ThinkBeforeYouAct Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Shawn gave him a good recount of what happened. He told Shannon you retired at 35 and he retired at 45 and that he was jealous of Tom Brady.
@nickelbus7596 Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh!!! Da horror!!! 😱
@ahamarwahli5856 Жыл бұрын
He obviously didn’t watch the show especially if he got offended for Akademiks talking shit about him being broke
@jaykaynum5569 Жыл бұрын
Shannon diss MJ all the time. Skip dissed Shannon😂
@delimacuswilhite5235 Жыл бұрын
That true he go out his way diss MJ. But skip just showed him he still a nigga and he is beneath
@monicabrandt6234 Жыл бұрын
Skip was outta pocket for making it personal against Shannon. Brady is 100% a goat. Goats are not Supermen or Superwomen they have just perfected the craft and been excellent at what they do for the time doing it. Brady is 45, and this year had a divorce form his wife and not to mention other things. But Shannon was right in his assessment of his play. This year. Skip, shouldn't have went low.
@kingbenjaminhousework2495 Жыл бұрын
Since that episode Have y’all saw how Skip has toned it down a tad
@dantheman8152 Жыл бұрын
Young Joc is all in with these interviews
@Will203_ Жыл бұрын
Joc is pretty level headed but it’s obvious he didn’t see the clip..
@renoirrandy7241 Жыл бұрын
It obvious you a whinny estrogen filled beta male
@devonwallace4186 Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty obvious joc doesn’t know anything about football lol. He doesn’t understand what was being argued between skip and Shannon, so it’s hard for him to give a legit opinion on this topic
@Coach_Run Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joc lol. That’s exactly what I said!!!!! People get to offended by everything
@p.jjohnson313 Жыл бұрын
The problem is Skip gets out of pocket on the show constantly against Shay. Mannerisms, heavy sighing, constant interrupting when it’s Shay’s and taking a unfair shot directly at Shannon over Brady. Something he would never do talking bout Lebron. And at the end of the day, they suppose to be a team.
@craigjoseph9374 Жыл бұрын
🎯
@26lyfe60 Жыл бұрын
If I don’t here glad voice I’m gone 😂😂
@HamboneyGamezYT Жыл бұрын
Thank you JoC!!
@coopdeville7150 Жыл бұрын
This question was hilarious 😂 ... Joc don't nothing about any sports topic. 😂😂
@unboxinghype813 Жыл бұрын
Joc ain’t really catch the situation until the very end, but he finally got it.
@imsoflorida2502 Жыл бұрын
Standing on what you believe and disrespect is two different things...one can't justify one with the other.
@devate11 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer didn’t express the part where they consider each other “brothers”, and skip is belittling his brother’s career on national television for the sake of improving his image as a Brady Stan… it is staying on script for Skip, but it was a cheap shot. To Joc’s point though, it does still turn out to be great for the show from a ratings perspective, planned or not
@demetriuswilliams1796 Жыл бұрын
HE AINT SEE IT, HE DONT KNOW HOW BAD IT WAS FA REAL LOL🤦♀️🤷🏽♀️🤔
@MoneysWorld1989 Жыл бұрын
Problem is skip doesn't like when it's the other way around.
@chrisbalseiro1505 Жыл бұрын
Part 4 sports question ..yeah there’s nothing here 😂
@cmbrock1 Жыл бұрын
If this was Vlad interviewing he would’ve had the clip of him to watch. No disrespect to Shawn.
@ijmula Жыл бұрын
U should’ve played the clip for Joc
@abiyahbaqbuqyah877 Жыл бұрын
Why would you ask Jock this question! A good question for the wrong person🤦🏾♂️
@claeg.5712 Жыл бұрын
Joc speaking facts
@hodgee4199 Жыл бұрын
Anybody watch that show know Skip is a Brady D rider and will never ever admit he's in the wrong. What's so funny is Skip trying to diminish a 3x super bowl winner and HOF player as if that's a easy feat to accomplish when Skip has never played a down of football. All QB's are gonna last longer in the league than a TE because QB's don't get touched and TE's are banging every play. So saying Brady played longer is not really a flex.
@jamesprophete1131 Жыл бұрын
Buddy ain’t dress the question properly.. 🥴
@no_chasers6339 Жыл бұрын
Thank youuuuuu. People are so sensitive. Good lawd. Shaq and Chuck always go at each other. People forget how Skip fought for Shannon to be on TV when people doubted Shannon. Now their show is one of the top sports show. I’m sure they hashed it out. Everyone wants to put their two cents in, definitely black media
@user-fv5qg4yg6w Жыл бұрын
The interviewer sounds like uncle ra from 15mof lol
@Joesbigbro78 Жыл бұрын
Wrong question to ask joc yall need to take this down. He say it’s an offensive sport that’s why they got offense and defense.
@ballgame3273 Жыл бұрын
People act like they never had a debate about sports or saw one .. 🤣 skip did Start it.. but Shannon should have expected it... Lucky the wasn't talking about Bron.. Shannon will go to the edge 🤣😂🤣
@kendrickellis8726 Жыл бұрын
TALKKK JOCCC
@jlunaism Жыл бұрын
Skip “Pistol Pete” Bayless should be inducted into the Hall of Fame of D ridin
@7Wallstreet Жыл бұрын
Shannon's mistake was losing masculine frame during the dispute. He could have simply said, different positions and different era. QB's have been 'bubble wrapped' for the last 10-15 yrs, but could Brady play 20yrs. against L.T., Bruce Smith, Reggie White, and several more during Shay's 14yr. career? 10-12, maybe.
@ojlott-w4n Жыл бұрын
Qbs today Confidence won't be high for the fact that u gotta worried about somebody knocking u out the game and won't be a flag
@duraywilcox1153 Жыл бұрын
Hell no tom would've been sacked a million times Lt by his self would've been trouble for Tom hell tom ada be glad he ain't play in that era cause he wouldn't be playing no more if those guys were around they would hit the QB so hard yeah tom would've quit back then I promise u that
@bouche8503 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Dipset415 Жыл бұрын
Shut that shit up masculine frame🥴skip would have got popped in his mouth if they where arguing like this not on tv🤷🏿♂️
Yung Joc one of the greatest of all time this guy a legend for real
@brianwhite1087 Жыл бұрын
Huh!!!!
@mrp8231 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Flyc2 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nathandarby4223 Жыл бұрын
At what ?
@kirkstate Жыл бұрын
Ok ok let this man chill for awhile
@KtotheG Жыл бұрын
You gotta show Joc the clip so he can get the full context. Your description didn't do it justice. The yelling, the body language, the emotion, the gestures, the statements made within the context of it being made, etc... all of that matters, so that he can get the complete picture.
@greedigrindin680 Жыл бұрын
Jock like wtttfff this gotta do wit me I'm still getting paid right Aight!!
@favors59 Жыл бұрын
Vlad and skip have a lot in common
@Platform246 Жыл бұрын
Seriously
@kenshelle1 Жыл бұрын
What they both mainly profit off of the activities of black people?
@houdinidagreat3 Жыл бұрын
Prez should've did a flashback to the show
@knowledgesuncere7786 Жыл бұрын
It’s called Skip staying on code with his people. We can learn from Skip and other WS about being and staying on Code, js
@royals080 Жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with race stfu 😒 always make it seem like everything is some strategy. Skip is just a dick rider that's it
@zay7554 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@knowledgesuncere7786 Жыл бұрын
@@royals080 , race has everything to do with it. Do you ever see lions, hanging with Tigers, no you don’t. Stick with your group
@royals080 Жыл бұрын
@knowledgesuncere7786 lol no everything doesn't have everything to do with it. Lol like come on dude its a sports show you quote on quote conscious community dudes be funny asf
@luggerphilippe8409 Жыл бұрын
@@knowledgesuncere7786 Actually Lion's do hang with tiger's that's how you get hybrids Ligers..And I didn't like what Skip said to Shannon but I don't think it was out of being racist it was being disrespectful..Shaq and Barkley do it.. I've even seen Michael Jordan and Barkley do it to each other on Oprah you could pull it up on KZbin..
@raiderbone8228 Жыл бұрын
Shannon wasn’t feelin that put your glasses back on comment from skip. He knew he was hiding behind being more experienced on the show.
@aew084 Жыл бұрын
You dropped the ball on this one Joc
@renoirrandy7241 Жыл бұрын
Boost your testosterone level, it's lower than what the ball was dropped on.
@cherokeegaming4499 Жыл бұрын
Boy said it’s offensive, that’s why there is a offense and a defense. Bro man stop. Lol skip was wrong. Period
@MelvinSanford Жыл бұрын
It sounds like Yung Joc didn’t even watch Shannon Sharpe Skip Bayless exchange that brought about this topic. He’s speaking generally. What he said, I’ve been saying for years about those two. But this time was different. And most who watched/ listened can tell the difference.
@jordanturner7917 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting Joc to say that! The community is so weak and I secure and crying about EVERYTHING
@jordanturner7917 Жыл бұрын
@@rolandalbert680 The community being in the dirt has nothing to do with me. Like most blks you're blinded by hatred and jealousy. It's the insecurity of knowing that blks haven't built anything in 3000 years. It's ppl like you who refuse to accept reality and you make up your own fantasies about history. There are still ppl in Africa running around stretching their lips and putting bones in their noses with paint all over their face today in the year 2022. Have you ever heard of Dirt Cookies? What about Mosquito Pie? Or Fly Cake? 600 years? Ninjas always whining and crying about we was slavery and ohhh poor me and my poor ancestors ohhhh it be so so hard and bad... Well if you claim that 400-600 years of slavery in the west caused so much generational trauma then just imagine what kind of generational trauma the 7000 years of self-imposed slavery in Africa had. And there are also over 10 MILLION slaves in Africa TODAY. Prisons meant to hold 800 are stuffed full with 3000. Prisons that are just shipping containers packed with people. Here in America blk ppl make up 5x LESS of the population that wht ppl but we still make up 5x MORE of the murders. That's like playing football 5 vs 25 and outscoring them 42 to 7. There are well over 500 blk ppl kilt by other blk ppl EVERY MONTH in America. Only about 140 wht ppl being kilt each month and a great deal of them are kilt by blk ppl. Anyways, you're dusional if you think that wht ppl hate blk ppl or they're jealous or insecure. There is nothing to be insecure about. Let go of your hatred. Merry Christmas, my brotha.
@jordanturner7917 Жыл бұрын
@@rolandalbert680 You've been deceived sir. I lived in Tulsa for 20 years, a stones throw away from Black Wall Street. What happened there is not what it seems. YOU are being lied to and used and emotionally manipulated with false history. Look at how BLM and the media lies about what's going on today. It's the same thing except they have more freedom to lie because it was 100 years ago and no one is around to speak the truth. We were burning our own stuff down and creating chaos just like we have been doing recently with all of these riots. Blacks don't own businesses because they can't come together and when they do it gets broken into and robbed. There were buildings in Tulsa that were vacant and nearly destroyed just sitting there for 30+ years and then the Mexicans come in and turn them into thriving businesses. So no racism for the Mexicans I guess. Everything I just laid out to you and you still can only focus on white people. If there is an element of racism that is holding blks back then we need to find out to what degree, if any. It's called the process of elimination. We first have to stop blowing each other's brains out over mayonnaise and French fries and stop doing all the other bs that we do and THEN step back and see how we are doing and go from there. Once we are doing all that is within our power we can then see if and how much we are effected by outside forces. Until then, complaining about wht ppl or anyone else just comes across as a bad joke.
@BatmanPops Жыл бұрын
Skip Was Dead Wrong For That 💯💯 🏈💪🏿👨🏿🏫💍💍💍🏆🏆🏆vs👨🏼💼🤡
@843Keen Жыл бұрын
Right idk what joc talking bout but he wouldn’t let nobody talk to hi, like that! He need to stop the bs🙄..if u didn’t know then say it
@BatmanPops Жыл бұрын
@@843Keen facts 👍🏽
@Rambunctious216 Жыл бұрын
It ain't so much about skip being loyal as it is Skip not wanting to be wrong.
@williamwright241 Жыл бұрын
He should’ve gave an analogy and said, imagine if your friend was a Jay Z fan a big one and you said something about Jay Z not being as great as he once was and your friend turned around said, Joc you’re jealous of Jay Z and you don’t have 10% of the talent that Jay had or has.” You damn right Joc would be insulted. Delivery is everything
@moussaipresidangue3203 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with Joc , very mature
@liltr3ay Жыл бұрын
Joc can't know the full details because that was the ultimate disrespect by Skip. This section was so nerve wrecking to watch!!!
@4ShotsofEspresso Жыл бұрын
Vlad never covered that Favre scandal
@shaqglo929 Жыл бұрын
Lol no more sports questions for joc
@xXLilSmurthXx Жыл бұрын
The interviewer broke down the Skip//Shannon segment incorrectly. Been trying to give a chance, but am not feeling his interview style.
@lennyjohnson7068 Жыл бұрын
Skip didn't just say Tom was better than Shannon, he said Tom was WAY better than Shannon was.
@thabeatchef Жыл бұрын
Joc summed it up well "It was good for tv"
@SomkeHouseENT Жыл бұрын
Joc's response tells me he didn't see the footage
@SmooveTV718 Жыл бұрын
I feel like that shit was for TV
@BTCBlizzy Жыл бұрын
Bruh TELL HIM TO WATCH IT FIRST 🙄 how you gon give somebody a half-ass rundown and then expect them to opine effectively? And Joc, that’s why u ask “let me see the statement..let me see the video..” so u don’t get set up to look dumb af
@gregoryhunterjr6148 Жыл бұрын
He probably should have played the audio or video for Joc 1st
@symfany1100 Жыл бұрын
Clearly joc ain’t see the clip so just show him the video 😂
@87easybreezy Жыл бұрын
The interviewer should’ve showed the clip for better context. Skip was super disrespectful. It wasn’t like a friendly quarrel.
@GLJ2414 Жыл бұрын
The world is so soft nowadays. This whole thing was overblown.
@trippdocta28 Жыл бұрын
You can tell Joc didn't watch the debate or even know how it went down.
@thekidyoungcatv Жыл бұрын
Joc you said you would shave your head lol
@tonioc7480 Жыл бұрын
Want more important people to talk about this
@kebrongee9614 Жыл бұрын
Joc finally got one wrong. The interviewer didn't put it into context. This isn't the first time.
@MofromIWM Жыл бұрын
Joc got the best take on this.
@jasonwages9784 Жыл бұрын
The difference between Barkley and Shaq are they are HOFs. The interviewer didn’t not give adequate insight.
@MrLong-mb3pk Жыл бұрын
Joc never said he saw the altercation he said he knew who Tom Brady was
@winfordmdrumstoo Жыл бұрын
6-7 and still division leaders 😂. Man is taking L’s but won’t take an L.
@bryantwilliams3475 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Shannon is in the HOF, Tom ain't
@h.o.o.d.recordingandmanage2841 Жыл бұрын
Good one but this will age like a pack of cheese
@sixstrz8310 Жыл бұрын
No shit he’s still an active player 💀🤡
@eddiemac-637 Жыл бұрын
are you that stupid? Shannon was not even first ballot, Tom wont have any down votes, he is also an active player jesus
@anthonyc8238 Жыл бұрын
Dumb thing to say when he's not retired yet 😆
@keithdior1657 Жыл бұрын
@@h.o.o.d.recordingandmanage2841 age like bananas lol
@TonioFSUClimbing Жыл бұрын
He talking bout that’s what men do… real men don’t ride no other man coattail especially one they don’t know to take a personal shot