Sakuna Didn't Expect Being An Indie To Be This Hectic (Yuki Sakuna) [Eng Subs]

[@ivanbluecool]

Indie difficulty: 44.5 level cap

[@Butterbeansguy-k3q]

I recently calculated it,using BMI,she's in between 15 to 20, First I thought,"either 18 to 24" So one of this might be right

[@rainzerdesu]

Guess she's still signing!

[@marcosramos9129]

Yeah, i think being a indie have some pros and cons But that's how nearly everything in life is , i hope she continues doing her best You can do it Sakuna!!

[@SystemBot]

literally suffering from success

[@Butterbeansguy-k3q]

But she has cons in social meeting but pros in cuteness level❤

[@SilverMystes1]

Well the biggest pro is she gets to keep all of her earnings!

[@vallejomach6721]

@@SilverMystes1 That's only a positive whilst you have an audience. Look at KSON...her videos now are often getting below 20k views. Not live viewers, TOTAL views. No way she's making anywhere near the money she used to. Not too mention the other disadvantages she'll now face with no state of the art recording and production facilities at her fingertips or any of the other help and benefits being in arguably the most successful corp brings in terms of opportunity and exposure. Indies simply cannot compete at all on anywhere near the same level...it's like the difference between playing for Barcelona and some berk that plays for a local amateur Sunday league pub football team....it's ridiculous to imagine they are on par. Most likely it'll be reduced revenue over time, greater expense to get anything done in terms of music/production etc, less opportunity for content (again look at KSON...the so-called content she couldn't do in holo turned out to be building Gunpla...hardly riveting stuff). Sure, if Sakuna averages 300-500k, or more views, like she used to get, then I'm sure she'll see plenty of revenue... yes that'd be great to not have a corp cut taken out of that revenue...but, if that eventually drops, as it inevitably will eventually, then maybe not so much.

[@jordanholloman5907]

@@SilverMystes1 KZbin still takes some of that, actually.

[@ranmazokuable]

Yeah, she definitely needs a manager if she doesn't have one, to help her organise things from the side

[@dead-claudia]

and this is why large indies commonly hire managers of their own to help deal with emails and social networking stuff.

[@Butterbeansguy-k3q]

To be honest,she's handling this like a pro,I wonder why...

[@oniondesu9633]

actually not that common for indies to hire managers, many big ones don't have one

[@mr.j5112]

I'm curious if that one vtuber, who reached 2M subscribers recently, has a manager since streaming is only her "hobby".

[@jeffreyzhou8898]

​@@mr.j5112who?😂 Now I'm curious

[@myasawa9065]

@@jeffreyzhou8898 Shigure Ui

[@jeremyng584]

Watching her talking while her perky ears move about are so heart warming❤

[@CannabutterMD]

her model is definitely one of the best currently

[@sackman1472]

Sakutan is so selfless! Giving the benefits of all the donations back to the fans!

[@Graestra]

Yeah, that's definitely the advantage to being in a corporation, they have management to help deal with emails, meetings, and other things. Of course the downside is that they take a portion of any earnings, and they introduce their own bureaucracy and meetings. When you're as popular as Sakuna it'd probably be helpful to have an assistant that can at least help with emails and some meetings, but then there's the difficulty of finding someone responsible you can trust, as well as paying and managing an employee.

[@RecordToDeathToBoredom]

Them taking a portion of earnings is not a "downside". It's fair. Hololivers make more money than they know what to do with. I get you're just listing the trade off, but "downside" means it's a negative when it isn't.

[@Newbtuber]

@@RecordToDeathToBoredom really just depends on what you want to do. If you want to just stream and do no collab and sponsor ship, then you dont need manager. But if you want to set up collabs, check email, get game/song permission,, get sponsorship, set up meet and greet etc etc etc....basically anything outside streaming, it is overwhelming. We still dont really know what she wants to do as an indie so hard to really say what is better

[@Tojeaux_]

@@Newbtuber but its not a "downside" to pay someone what they deserve for helping you with your enterprise. Sakuna will end up earning a lot of money, and if she doesnt want to deal with emails, inquiries and meetings she should hire someone she trusts and pay them fairly. Its not a "downside" unless shes utterly greedy about money (which im not accusing her of). The only real downside of accepting help is that in small operations like this you Have to trust them, especially if they're the business facing element of the operation, they will end up with a lot of power and that can be awful if you arent careful with who you take on.

[@Meonium]

Except Nijisanji

[@doob62]

My bets are she’ll probably join a company in a year or two if she can’t find someone to support her well enough administrative-wise. Kson did, Mikeneko did, Dokibird started her own company but was immediately taken advantage of, Dooby has an assistant who does some managerial tasks like filtering emails(probably a family member). But then again, almost all of them didn’t achieve everything they hoped for, while Sakuna left due to having been satisfied with what she’s done.

[@darrche5129]

No more manager to assist in Emails😂

[@MoonDasher07734]

*Popular figure retires but still shows in public* *Gets a million offers still* PONkutan: surprised pikachu face

[@kos2919]

Quitting corpo to enjoy more introvert time Reality: doing more extrovert stuff

[@N1CH0_N1N3]

Yeah, Dokibird showed us how complicated it is to be indie and be big...

[@Shiimaryu]

As much as I want to watch her live Japanese language makes it harder for me to understand most of the time, I can only get the context but not the exact words she's saying. Thank you for clipping and translating the stream! おつかれー

[@janematthews9087]

Have you tried checking holodex if her previous translator is doing her current streams? Or at the very least if you don't know about holodex, it'll help keep up to date with all holomems and some Indies.

[@Shiimaryu]

@@janematthews9087 Unfortunately No, I just started watching Vtubers, Hololive in particular last September. Just to practice Japanese listening skills. I got curious along the way what they're talking about and actually enjoyed the content especially when they're playing games. I'm still learning the culture/terms in the Vtubing scene but I'd say I'm having fun as well. I'll try to look them up! Thank you.

[@gonoki888]

@@janematthews9087 as far as I know, no one TL-ing her in holodex. And from what I know, her prev translator schedule now is hard for him to do live TL (having EU schedule is pain).

[@gonoki888]

@@Shiimaryu someone in sakuna fan discord is doing live translating there

[@Verxx-sc2tl]

That's what happens when you're so big

[@commentofthis]

Basically suffering from success, ganbare Sakutan!

[@XYousoro]

If that indie VT'er is just way too familiar, you know they'll be very busy

[@dangoknight1700]

Too many meetings. Sakutan is suffering from success

[@Mikazuki_Augus]

Saw this coming but i know she can do it ❤

[@zeanolafboyopos1409]

She's a gold mine so it's not that surprising

[@indrahaseo]

i’m really respect her manager has been a hard working for her all time

[@Earliersphere]

Reminds me of how busy Doki was while rebuilding her brand, hopefully Yuki can find a trustworthy manager and a small staff to support her.

[@AscensiaYT]

Ganbare Sakunyan Also thanks for hanging out in Sakuna fancord and live TL Yura!

[@ImRezaF]

Paperworks always the bane of humanity

[@vieronna]

2:54 "There's still this big task and I'm doing my best at it." ...Still signing away? 😂

[@bhtscorpio4688]

She's actually the same level as kizunai ai rn

[@jordanholloman5907]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@venerablesimp]

I mean, even making a cover song would need her to manage everything from commissioning illustration, recording, mixing, and making MV. That requires a lot of managing. Unless she's planning to do it all herself, she needs a manager. Tho it won't be easy finding one. Corpo managers are hired through HR and corpo filtering, they also gives training and stuffs. While being indie would need her to take on all the risk herself. But still, all the best for her.

[@HikkuRikku]

aww she is doing her best even though she is a shy introverted onion head T_T

[@yoimsecond]

Im sure shes this busy since its still the early days, later on itll calm down more, right now shes all the hype

[@Hemestal]

Welp, most indies hire at least one person, preferably a close one they can trust with their socials and logistics, even Ui that has a high level of technical proficiency has one.

[@gonoki888]

It's kinda hard for someone as big as her especially from ex big company as well. I imagine finding manager that she can trust will be hard. Privacy matter is a huge deal and will be at risk.

[@spongebobfan78]

The curse of being very popular at the start

[@crimson35124]

0:20 anyone else listening hard to see if she’d let out an “ateshi”?

[@odakidakida9193]

No escape for her...

[@BlAdeZ197]

I guess this will slow down and is only very busy at the beginning, ganbare Sakutan

[@SilverMystes1]

There’s no way Sakuna won’t be busy. She’s just waaay too big.

[@gambitschema]

You Can't Escape.

[@TheMan21892]

Hmmm… Could this be the revival of the fabled Rick Roll?

[@this.is.k]

2:02 What are the meetings for though? Is she already getting collabs from brands? Other Vtubers? Making merch? Oh probably songs too, she already has a cover

[@LtZetarn]

Commission Arts for songs, covers. Commission on rights to use of the songs for cover (via JASRAC) Commssion of the mixing & recording, etc. Also Big indie need to follow the rules about game permission, same as corpor VTuber so that's another one.

[@icecream6256]

Well, why not hire a manager, or a secretary, that'd definitely help a lot

[@DrMeisterBabylon]

I swear no other indie has that many meetings lol

[@N1CH0_N1N3]

Dokibird

[@ivanbluecool]

Don't worry saku-nya we'll be there to support you every step of the way

[@moonboie]

Keep up your donations so she can hire extra help

[@Tomoki_Robo]

0:22 0:34 assuming the translation is accurate did she admitting that she's Aqua already?

[@turritopsis_said80]

truly shge is regre

[@lyconxero457]

Wait…Sakutan?!? Is that REALLY what she wants us to call her?

[@MaxKnight007]

so what meeting could a new indie vtuber with 940k subscribers have?

[@XSpImmaLion]

She should spend it all for herself... or put it on savings. Her channel will take care of itself plenty.

[@Meonium]

​@@Wolf-fighterFor Hololive, merch sales cut vary greatly depending on how much talents invested in said merch. For example is voice pack they recorded themselves, they get 100% sales cut. There's another such as doll merch that they designed themselves and paid all the manufacture cost, they'll get 100% sales cut. If they let Cover handle it all, then they'll only get tiny cut. Some Hololive members talked about this long ago. That's why many of them are busy making merchs as homework

[@Cosmoman78]

Yeah, being a HUGE Indie Vtuber is not easy LOL. Just ask Dokibird.

[@lilithlianshi2094]

meeting in person ?? why not offering zoom meeting ? its more efficient

[@ryouo5950]

She didn't say meeting in person or not, but she is definitely used to online meeting

[@SystemBot]

are meetings with vtubers in actual person or online meetings?

[@blakraven66]

Can be either depending on time, location, and trust just like anybody else.

[@gonoki888]

Yeah, just like in any kind of works irl. Sometimes you do meeting in actual person and sometimes just online.

[@tanekochi]

Surely she meant being indie with most of her past fanbase following her. If Sakuna really start from scratch, she won't be having this "problem". Even getting 10 viewers per stream is already considered very lucky. Sakuna underestimated how fans would behave in this situation, and she forgot for a moment about how her early days as a streamer was like.

[@Otoshi_Gami]

pretty much. if she just waited out like 6 months or so instead of being Rush back to stream, then it would've died down and she might have Less views as a good thing cause its all about chill stream.

[@gokbay3057]

Yeah, it would have been unrealistic to expect to start from actual zero. But I am sure she expected to have a much slower start, rather than immediately being catapulted back into the big leagues.

[@jaaguar13]

@@Otoshi_Gami People started following her current KZbin channel (under a different name back then before she named it into Yuuki Sakuna) the moment they heard that she is graduating her past persona. When she renamed the channel it was clear that she is going to re-debut. And the word got out. Does not matter if it was 2 months or 6 months or a year. Her fans would come back.

[@socku5850]

The company own the youtube channel and her model. She doesn't own anything. Her old channel is still up . I check it a few days ago. All she have is her personality.

[@DaimonAnimations]

It would be nice if she can offcollab with Kson and RIca.

[@unknownguysification]

I think if Collab really happens, I think she would be easier collab with Gyuutaro than Kson and Rica. If you know , you know

[@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke]

​@@unknownguysification Are you maybe referring to Guutara? And I don't think she's close enough to do an offcollab with Guu-chan or any ex-colleague. Remember, this is Ateshi we're talking about. The only person I could think of that she can offcollab now is Mea.

[@longdo5910]

⁠@@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke bruh, her social anxiety is not that bad. We do actually hear from her ex-colleague that she still hangout with them. Sakutan is Bocchi in Episode 12 not the loner of Episode 1

[@gonoki888]

@@longdo5910 She's still having a hard time initiating stuff. She mentioned it on her last stream even. Which she was happy that her friends are still inviting her to go out.

[@crimson35124]

@@Luman96erotic succubus nurse

[@dimmoire]

I feel like Japanese people will not send alot of troll emails. I think the idea of spamming or flooding a popular persons personal email is a bad thing that is usually common in places where people are disrespectful. I hope alot of people will only send serious inquiries and not troll her email account :(

[@nunya8459]

Bro 2chan makes 4chan look like a joke, Japan's not magically pure of internet trolls or anything.

[@illuminati955]

@@nunya8459 I agree but from my experience Japanese trolling is different from Western or even Chinese trolling. Some things are cultural like ordering pizzas to addresses in America, while you have other things like calling the workplace with fake reports or making elaborate fake stories (not obvious troll ones) that are more prominent in Japan. Japan isnt a magical wonderland or anything but it is pretty insular.

[@Otoshi_Gami]

@@Wolf-fighter pretty much since shes an indie now with no Corpo Restrictions and people are trying to ask her out on a date and other weird stuff.

[@N1CH0_N1N3]

VShojo JP soon? I mean, they give complete and total help with bureaucracy while giving freedom of content.

[@holonightch.7682]

Why she talking like she ever been in an agency.. Oh wait..