Z32 Fairlady Japanese FR Sports Car Battle in Tsukuba! 1989 (Best MOTORing)

[@taroyamada2444]

当時当方幼稚園児で、近所のローソンに置いてあったベストモータリングをおねだりして買ってもらって30代に入ってからもバリバリ見てる。 当時はミッキーのビデオとベストモータリングを擦り切れるほど見たなぁ。

[@subaruen07]

ミッキーとベスモというギャップw

[@ohamogra]

最後のＺのＴバールーフ懐かしい、バブル最盛期の89年いい時代でした

[@rekazz110]

この四台…今見ても格好いい！

[@faturr]

300ZX such a beautiful car!

[@jeremysteib8378]

This is a pretty good example of what the Toyota Supra Turbo A was capable of in stock form versus the competition. The Turbo A version of the MK3 Supra came with multiple improvements over the regular MK3 Turbo of the time, although an extremely limited production run for homologation purposes, they were quite potent. Rated at 267-273HP and weighing in at under 3400lbs they were about the same as the Z32 300zx Twin Turbo T-Top. With the added changes to the stock turbo CT-26 inducer (larger), intake system (larger throttle body, intercooler and intake piping) and running MAP instead of AFM, it had a better overall powerband than the Z32, (easily identified by the extra intercooler duct where the front license plate was located in this video). Mixed with upgraded brakes and roll bars it had upgraded handling and braking to boot. Even the 2.5 Twin Turbo 1JZ that came out later for the MK3 was really not much of an improvement, if any, over the Turbo A variant, and was considered inferior by most. The Z32 Twin Turbo T-Top on the other hand had the smaller Japanese market Z32 turbos rated at 280HP, missing out on the superior USDM turbos. It had superior handling and a superior chassis design to the MK3 Supra (as it should be for a later designed model), but not enough HP and TQ to really pull it's weight sufficiently on the track, especially with the undersized early version thinner brake rotors and easily heat-soaked aluminium brake calipers, famous for terrible brake fade after only a couple heated laps. In my opinion, the Z32TT never got the model updates it deserved as the years passed, like a "Turbo A" variant was for the Supra, until the last 2 years it was produced in Japan, and even then it wasn't really a HP increase, just structural, reliability and electrical. Still a terrific GT sports car with a huge amount of potential when upgraded in the correct areas of weakness, a true example of what the engineers were capable of from Nissan in those years along with the Silvia and Skyline GT-R.

[@FenderUsa]

Great info ty

[@AnonYmous-hu7jo]

One thing I hate about my Z32... Is a money pit.😭

[@minoru-itahana]

30年以上前ですが懐かしい車が走っているのは見ていて嬉しいですね

[@さとけん-s6v]

この時代の車はなんだか魅力的だなー

[@blueneckmedia4590]

1989 and the quality is crystal clear!

[@destructoidx99]

japan is always ahead of us atleast by 10 years

[@nissanpacific9793]

Tsuchiya killing it in the Mk3 Supra!!!

[@宏湯浅]

なし

[@andrewmcintosh9832]

The Twin Turbo Z! The original, the best, copies by all the rest!

[@KingJasonOriginal]

13:56 me too. Love Z

[@Krezo200]

Hah one of the early episodes Just fantastic Always a pleasure to see gan san driving

[@Krezo200]

😍

[@魍魎-g9q]

これをみて一番思うのは…タイヤの性能が今は上がったんだなと……

[@Unknown-zt5qd]

全然違うねw

[@nio_mind]

バブル真っ盛り、ガンさんヘリ移動🚁

[@kirisimaaka3715]

...良い時代でしたね。 スポーツ出来る車の多い事！この頃は、新型車が出る度にどの車が速いのか？って事が一番の関心事でしたね。

[@czierwo]

Awesome stuff from Best Motoring. Hope someone will make available those EVO vs STI battles over the years. I know there are plenty, even in snow!

[@taroyamada2444]

俺が幼稚園の頃に親におねだりをしてコンビニに置かれてあったベストモータリングを買ってもらったんだけどそれがまさにこの回。 今でも大事にVHSを取ってあるしおそらく何千回も見ている。 でも未だに飽きないんだよなぁ。

[@まさる1966]

2by2で較べたらZ32が一番カッコイイと思う。

[@タツマキ-y3v]

土屋さんが緑じゃないのが新鮮です。

[@ARASISAN2501]

この頃の車は本当によかった。今の車はまったく買う気がおきないんだよな～。

[@WUJIKINTOKI]

ターボAの大型タービンは、公道レベルだと立ち上がるのが遅くてターボが大きく利きはじめる頃にはもう次のコーナーが来てしまう…という感じでストレス溜まりますけど サーキットなら別。作られた目的から言ってもこういう用途に「向いている」のでそりゃ直線伸びますね。利いてしまえばドッカン行くタイプは痛快でしょう。 RX-7は動画内のナレーションにもある通り、トーコントロール・ハブ（後輪をわざとトー変化させるパッシブ4WS的装置）付きリアスペンションがサーキットでは邪魔をしますね。 公道レベルやタイトコーナーの連続、峠なんかではよく回りこんで良いのですがね、サーキットではキャンセル装置が欲しいですね。

[@bsecow8243]

過去にZ32と迷ってましたが選んだ70スープラ乗っててよかったと思ってしまった(笑)けどこのあとは280psマシンの続々登場で70スープラとZ32が隠れる形になってしまったけど

[@TKONNO-nv2uk]

70スープラってz32より４年前の車なのに速いってことは素性がいいんでしょうね。

[@taka480]

GrAレース経験などからエンジンサスペンションとも、熟成がすすんでましたからね。 当時Z32のエンジニアが雑誌でスープラを「あんなものと比較してません」と鼻で笑ってましたが、その後も70は1JZ搭載など熟成を重ねて、そのノウハウを80に投入。 で、Z32を突き放すと…

[@kouichihonma7162]

R32GT-Rとほぼ同時期の開発で 走りに関しての開発リソースは R32に全力集中されていたようです。 発表当時、デザインの素晴らしさは 評価されてましたが、発売後、徐々に 評価が下がっていったのを覚えたいます。

[@TKONNO-nv2uk]

結局、VG30DETTエンジンってカタログ上では280馬力になったけど、元々が高級車向けエンジンだからスポーツカーに要求される高回転の伸びは出しきれなかったのかな。日産が意図的にアメリカンスポーツカーに仕立てたのか。Z32と同じエンジンのパワーアップしたMID-4を出してたとしてもR32GT-Rみたいにストレートの伸びは期待出来なかったろうね。

[@sutats]

Wow! This is a really early Best MOTORing video.

[@illitero]

More videos like this, please! I find it especially interesting they used the Skyline four door. it wasn't the fastest, but definitely appeared to be the most composed chassis on the track.

[@naturalthing1]

They believed the 4 door handled better because of it's slightly longer wheelbase

[@illitero]

Oh cool, so I wasn't imagining what I saw haha

[@300zxttswap6]

As a z32 owner, id say the z handles just as well, it just doesnt have the power

[@andydhillon1977]

Love it! Thanks for sharing! I could listen to owners of these cars all day long! So many interesting people with interesting stories!

[@МАлексић]

R32GTS-tは昔乗ってた車だけど、やっぱり3L級との勝負じゃキツいよな〜。 RB20DETのフィーリングは好きだったけど、如何せん非力だったなぁ。

[@semi6611]

70スープラがけっこう好成績だねー

[@mocchisho.youtube]

走行中マイクついてないのかなあ ベスモと言えば走行中の1人漫談なのにw

[@ITSMRFOXY]

English subs! Woohoo!!

[@カレーライス-h3q]

ガンさんヘリ移動はヤベェ

[@gatchegatche]

どれもかっこいいけどやっぱりZがかっこいい。プラモで我慢したなぁ、お金がなくて。

[@中山さん-j9u]

2021年にz32を買おうかなやんでる男

[@茉希-j5v]

わかる

[@ナからの4文字]

2024年終盤ですが 買えましたか？

[@Vgk36]

Love my Z ! @VGK30

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I love the music that starts at 10:28. It reminds me of Street Fighter and other arcades. I wish I knew where that music was from. The music that follows it at 11:28 is really cool, calm, and relaxing too. Mark 3 Supra is my favorite car here. Cool to see the Nissan 300ZX pulling off a win in the second heat against the Skyline GTS-T. I’ve never seen these professional drivers struggle so hard with any of the newer FD RX-7’s and Mk 4 Supra in the same way they struggled here with the FC RX-7 and Mk 3 Supra.

[@z31tom]

Tバールーフは紅葉眺めたりイルミ見たり最高のドライブカーですよ(^^)v にしても土屋氏がハーフスピンを華麗にアクセルワークでパス！ さすがですね(^^;

[@TV-SONY]

田辺さんはスピンし過ぎですｗ

[@sunrisepegasus2002]

初めて買ったベスモ…懐かしいです

[@Krezo200]

I need more bm videos with subtitles Im starving for them 😳

[@fhy33vq30det]

ターボA専用の7M-GTはやっぱり速いな。 何度か運転したことありますが、ノーマルの7Mとは別物。 直線でも、ターボR(1JZ-GT)を軽くあしらえますし。

[@アイスバード]

確か…最高速はターボAのが速かったです(約270km/h)ツインターボR(約250km/h) 因みに270km/hはNSXやR32GT-Rをも上回ってます。 ツインターボRはビルシュタインのショックが標準装備で入ってるのでコーナーではツインターボRのが速かったです。

[@loyalsniper]

@@アイスバード270knでなく270馬力ね。

[@arrivendrive6831]

They abused the rx7 turbo 2 but then came the fd. Nothing else said

[@ytakaponpon]

まだGT-Rが出てない頃か。時代の流れを感じるね。

[@jaskopdx6342]

Why is 300zx so slow compared to other cars like the next gen rx7 and supra and 3000gt. As a kid I thought 300zx on same level as those cars but I guess it's just a level below.. lap time 1:13 vs gtr r33 and 94 supra and GTO times very between 1:07 and 1:09 that's full 4 seconds a lap faster than 300zx. Even up to 7 seconds a lap slower.

[@genericexcuse4737]

I guess you have to consider that the Z32 was engineered in the 80’s, while the other contemporary jdm cars were more 90’s, while using the Z32 and R32 as an example.

[@turbo_excellent]

土屋さんの髪型でどんな時代だったかがわかります。

[@Takahiro_official]

10:50 田辺さん危ない～!😱😱😱

[@taroyamada2444]

俺1989年で幼稚園児の時にリアルタイムでこのベスモ回を見て同じように危ねぇって思ったんだけど、今見たらわざとスピンしたのかなって思うな、、さすがにプロのドライバーがラップ重ねてるのにあんな大きいスピンするのは不自然だし、あと大人になって噂話で聞いたけど中谷さんがベスモ辞めたのは八百長レース収録に嫌気がさしたみたいな事らしいし。 今回もゴリゴリのz32推し回だったからね、この動画ではカットされてるけど赤z32のテレビCMも入ってるくらいの推し具合だったから。最後にz32を勝たすプランだったのかもね。

[@25gt70]

結果はどうあれ、やっぱスカイラインの4枚はカッコいい😍

[@taka480]

DR30→HCR32と4枚を乗り継いだ者としてそう言っていただけると光栄です。って俺じゃないか（笑

[@bam_henry]

Young DK stating he wishes to be as cool as Gan-san back then. Meanwhile now, literally those in the know from all over the world want to be him. Including me! 🙇

[@ElTio.45-70]

Odd to see Drift King using blue helmet...

[@クマのプー太郎-y9p]

此の頃のトヨタの直六は評判とは裏腹に結構良かったんだよなー

[@mr-t1243]

I was almost positive the RX7 with that red hood was a turbo 2 I guess not

[@bam_henry]

There was no Turbo II in JDM FC RX-7s iirc. They had the GT, GT-X, GT-Limited, GT-R, etc.

[@Mayerler]

ドリキン走り〜と思ったらただのハーフスピン！全く危ない！ クスッときた にしても70速いんだな〜

[@heilong79]

really surprised how well the Supra did, 1989 so I assume this was the 1JZ and was it also an auto? Great driving all round.

[@dshaenthusiast]

3.0 Turbo, so it's a MA70.

[@xXxXcrosbykidXxXx]

This video makes no sense, stock for stock a Z32 TT will walk away from any trim Mk3 with any engine in a straight line. Ive owned many of both and know this to be true 10 time out of 10. Its such an inarguable fact that it makes me question this video in terms of why the Z was so slow when it has proven to be quite a bit faster than every car here several times over.

[@jeremysteib8378]

@@xXxXcrosbykidXxXx This Supra MK3 was the ultra rare Turbo A variant, modified extensively from the factory. The Turbo A version of the MK3 Supra came with multiple improvements over the regular MK3 Turbo of the time, although an extremely limited production run for homologation purposes, they were quite potent. Rated at 267-273HP and weighing in at under 3400lbs they were about the same as the Z32 300zx Twin Turbo T-Top. With the added changes to the stock turbo CT-26 inducer (larger), intake system (larger throttle body, intercooler and intake piping) and running MAP instead of AFM, it had a better overall powerband than the Z32, (easily identified by the extra intercooler duct where the front license plate was located in this video). Mixed with upgraded brakes and roll bars it had upgraded handling and braking to boot. Even the 2.5 Twin Turbo 1JZ that came out later for the MK3 was really not much of an improvement, if any, over the Turbo A variant, and was considered inferior by most. The regular Turbo MK3 Supra would not have been near this close. The JDM Z32 Twin Turbo T-Top (often a 2+2 in Japan) on the other hand had the smaller Japanese market Z32 turbos rated at 280HP, missing out on the superior USDM turbos. It had superior handling and a superior chassis design to the MK3 Supra (as it should be for a later designed model), but not enough HP and TQ to really pull it's weight sufficiently on the track, especially with the undersized early version thinner brake rotors and easily heat-soaked aluminium brake calipers, famous for terrible brake fade after only a couple heated laps. In my opinion, the Z32TT never got the model updates it deserved as the years passed, like a "Turbo A" variant was for the Supra, until the last 2 years it was produced in Japan, and even then it wasn't really a HP increase, just structural, reliability and electrical. Still a terrific GT sports car with a huge amount of potential when upgraded in the correct areas of weakness, a true example of what the engineers were capable of from Nissan in those years along with the Silvia and Skyline GT-R.

[@MElekiaZ]

9:38

[@pppupu936]

MElekiaZ Deja vu

[@ethownzbh]

Also, good lord that Turbo II is tail happy as shit.

[@MrJimbo666]

Im suprised that 7M didint blow a headgasket lol

[@nissanpacific9793]

NOOO! Tsuchiya!!! Heat 2! 😭😭😭😭

[@kuriharatake]

スープラターボAの270psがZの280psより実は速かったという・・・

[@hakosukaLAEA-G]

2本目やらなくても良かったですよね。

[@rabbon-ithegenesis7169]

Shame, where is the Mitsubishi GTO?

[@LazyMod-p4i]

70スープラのかっこよさは異常

[@inakaloverssatochan2793]

大井さんはわかるが、田辺さん意外と早いな…

[@nobu1999]

懐かしすぎる。ドリキン若っ。 ドリドリうまいなあ。 しかしＲＸ－７は残念すぎ。 もっとタイトなコースなら結果も違ったかな。

[@satorusunaga2982]

土屋さんより、大井さんが今比べると びっくりです。

[@2009hidet]

がんさんの評価が70スープラが32スカイラインやZよりいいのは意外でしたね　　そんなに70スープラよかったのかな

[@taka480]

ガンさんが自著「黒澤元治の激辛クルマ選び」で「Z32のエンジンのフィーリングがトラックのエンジンみたいだ」と酷評してました。 逆に70、20ソアラ、R32、FCのRX-7は凄く評価していましたね。

[@953le7]

ターボAの時はストレートがZより速かったのに2.5Rになってからは逆にストレートでパスされるようになりましたね。 車体とエンジンのマッチングが悪かったのでしょうか

[@紺野義徳-m1v]

湾岸ミッドナイトで「筑波アタックでFCは32Rに負けたがZ32には勝ってる」台詞があったが、コレではなかったのかな？

[@ethownzbh]

Who's the guy driving the RX7 in the first heat and the Supra in the second?

[@alessiofederici5966]

Realy? DK Keiichy tsuchiya san

[@ITSMRFOXY]

Tanabe

[@luizalmeida9399]

Nissan 300zx tt comentários 124 Nissan 300zx tt saint seiya 😎😎😎😎😎Nissan os cavaleiros do zodíaco 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😋😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@tomtokyo330]

フェアレディZは国産最強であって欲しい。

[@Pennychaser1]

Can't believe mk3 is faster than TTz 1st round

[@PATARABONA]

13:15 lol

[@たけし中村-t5d]

1989

[@skboyyearsold]

若い頃に憧れた車ばかりじゃん 勿論Ｒ32が一番だけど。

[@AnthroGearhead]

Back when the Z and Supra were in their purest form before they were ruined and littered with electronic garbage , not to mention ruined by modern petrol heads

[@こじしま]

セブンは値段と馬力を鑑みると 1位なんじゃないか?

[@Avi42785]

If the 13b has turbo, it will surely win

[@ynom1295]

That RX-7 has turbo-charged 13B But that has just 205PS…

[@dhdft999]

なんでスカイラインはＧＴＲではなかったのか？

[@大貧民-w4e]

GTRは四駆じゃん

[@monoris2008]

日産的にZブランドは大事なのでGTRより格下に見えることを恐れたんじゃね？

[@晃っち]

ただ単にデビューして無かったんです。

[@晃っち]

四駆はな〜〜んにも関係ありません。ましてやブランドなど…思い付きもしませんでした。

[@arleheinessen3373]

そうそう、GTRが市販されたのは90年からで、Z32はその前年に先行販売されてたから市販前年のビデオなんだよね。

[@luizalmeida9399]

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[@kagemscher]

ナチュラル4WS…

[@candy720]

横断歩道で停車したらダメでしょ。時代を感じる。

[@森川和人]

この時のスポーツカーはどれもカッコいい今と大違いなんで今はカッコ悪車ばっかりになったんだ。最悪😖💦💨。

[@hakosukaLAEA-G]

1本だけでよかったのでは?

[@kagemscher]

この回はドライバーの腕の差もあるからかね…

[@まるこめつるぴかさん]

80スープラや32GTR出てたらたぶんどちらか優勝だったね笑

[@kazugogo11]

この頃の日産車ってrb26以外は、馬力当てにならないんだよな〜。 スッペクで単純に考えて、7Mのスープラに、あれ程離されるわけないのに… 1JZだったら、いざ知らず…

[@半チャーハンラーメンセット]

R32タイプMじゃなくて R31GTSRの方が良かったんじゃ？笑笑

[@nio_mind]

悔しがり方が昭和ですね。

[@Гена-Цыдармян]

why fc is so weak

[@大阪太郎-p8l]

市販車のサス弱過ぎ！

[@brianheiden6623]

I could have took down that supra.

[@300zxttswap6]

Brian Heiden get real. Ive owned z32 tts since they came out. We were the slowest in a straight line stock, only able to gap early fd3s, but the z32 tt did have better cornering than all but the rx7 tt imo. When i bought my 91 300ZX TT 5 speed, i raced a 95 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 from a dig til 150mph, and he had about 2 cars on me. As far as acceleration, i still own that stock 1991 5 speed 300ZX TT, and it runs 13.8s @103 on average, as do all stock z32 tts. I also own a modded 95 300ZX TT that runs 120mph traps. We lose to the 3000GT VR4 and Supra TT in a straight line by quite a bit, but we do gap stock fd3s once we hit 3rd gear. Stock 3000GT VR4s run between 13.0s to 13.3s @ 102 to 105mph, the 94 and up VR4s murder us in a straight line and the pre 93 VR4s beat us as well. My friends 1996 3000GT VR4 ran a best of 13.15@104.2mph vs my best of 13.79@103.8mph. We dont stand a chance in a straight line stock to stock vs the VR4 and Supra TT, end of story - but we do out handle them :)

[@christopherrossberg1012]

@@300zxttswap6 Do you run the stock tire size? My Z has 235mm rear tires and doesn't have a lot of grip. How much larger would be good for stock power? (Ik they came with 245mm rears, but the last owner put these on and the tread is like new so I figured it would be a waste.

[@pabindranakarmi2246]

Both Nissan Drivers were really Bad drivers, Supra could''ve been taken down so easily in the earlier laps

[@300zxttswap6]

Pabindra Nakarmi the z32 tt doesn't have enough power stock to beat it despite having much better handling. Stock to stock the 300ZX TT lost badly to the Mitsu 3000GT VR4 and Toyota Supra TT in a straight line - the VR4 runs low 13s stock (13.0s to 13.3s) and we cant close the gap, and the mk4 Supra TT traps 105 to 110mph stock. Im on my 4th 300ZX TT, and own 2, a stock 91 and a modded 95. The Z32 was the best all around car of the 4, but definitely lagged behind in acceleration, at least in stock form.

[@hiro-rn6hd]

もし、ここに2.5ツインターボRが出ていたら、Z32ごとき、カモれる可能性は少なくない。

[@kujiradakazusa]

なんで大井はVサインしてんの？ ミスの多さを気にせーへんのか！

[@由樹安]

なんでスカイラインだけが4ドアセダンなの？これレースはミスでしょう！

[@taka480]

エンジンもシャーシもホイルベースもすべてクーペと同一なんですが…

[@nkthagi]

こういうの好きだけど、レースする必要あるのかな？ 一台ずつのタイムアタックの方が性能分からない？

[@村上篤-d9r]

Zは重すぎ シャシから作り直さとダメだと思います

[@Unknown-zt5qd]

Zはここで終わり、続くはZの名を持ったゴミ 今回スープラ負けちゃったけど普通にスープラの方が早いと思う

[@z32すき]

1日前とかすごい確かに33とかはあんまり好きじゃない