Zack Snyder "Hater" Watches Rebel Moon | Rebel Moon Review

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Alright, things have mostly been civil and I’m glad and appreciative for that. I’m not used to big numbers in comments, so I’ve been trying to sort things. That being said, I’ve seen some shit in here I’m not too happy about. You guys can debate the movie and Zack’s work all you want, but let’s not get into personal attacks, or bring up personal things Zack and his family have gone through.

[@billycjohnson08]

Okay. So I need to ask. You say you loved the characters. My question is “how?” I do not know if you realize this, ignore it, or simply don’t agree with it, but the biggest criticism that this film has been receiving thus far is its SEVERE lack of character development with its supporting cast & that it’s TOO derivative of IPs in the past. Much of the chunk of the film is just planet hopping from one planet to another to recruit people. But we don’t get extensive development for any of these characters. Tarak for instance. He is shown to be able to calm down a Hippogriff looking creature from Harry Potter (derivative), but he never uses this sort of skill set again for the rest of the movie so it begs the question “what was the point in recruiting him in the first place?” Another character they recruited, Nemesis. We’re not shown how they found Nemesis on her home planet, nor do we know how Kai even knows her in the first place. She kills the spider creature with her lightsaber looking blades (again, derivative), & then all of a sudden she’s recruited. Like why did she agree to join in the first place & why so quickly? Then we find the disgraced general Titus. He won’t join the party due to his pity & lack of will because he felt he was beyond redemption. Then Kora tells him “how about revenge?” & then what do you know, Titus is now on the team. Just like that. So quickly & without logical reasoning. Then we find the Bloodaxe siblings & after a short speech from Kora, Bloodaxe brother decides to join. Again, just like that & so quickly. & on top of that we don’t see any interactions between these recruits whatsoever. We don’t see Nemesis having a conversation with Tarak, we don’t see Titus having a conversation with Gunnar, we don’t see Bloodaxe having a conversation with anyone on the team other than Kora & Gunnar. That’s a huge a** problem. As an audience, we don’t see the camaraderie or the dynamic of the group at all. Making it incredibly difficult to care for any of them, if at all. This is the criticism that is being echoed by many other reviewers that have talked about this film, so it’s not just me saying this. So I say again, you said you loved the characters. Again, “how?” Also, many people are also echoing that it’s too derivative of films like “Seven Samurai,” “The Magnificent Seven,” “Star Wars,””A Bugs Life,” etc. to the point of being just straight up plagiarism. Again, it’s not just me saying this.

[@brentarellano46]

You can't say seven samurai and magnificent seven and bugs life or any film like that. Seven samurai is the original the rest are copycats, you can't criticize rebel mom for copying all of the rip offs when so many more people have copied seven samurai. I'm also not keen on shitting on the movie when it was Netflix that decided to release the neutered version of Snyder's story. Also I've read the novelization which Zack has stated he made sure followed his r rated original script. And yes there's more to the characters and galaxy. Especially the motherworld. Kora. Sam and Aris

[@billycjohnson08]

@@brentarellano46 Actually, yes you can criticize it for being derivative. Because it points to lack of originality. Just because one film does it from another film, does not, I repeat does NOT mean that you can do the same thing & not receive criticism for it because I say again, it borderlines to the point of plagiarism. Two wrongs don’t make it right. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard that statement before & right now you’re trying to justify not criticizing the film because “well, the other films did it.” Sorry buddy. It doesn’t work like that. It’s all fair game, so get over it. Also, it has already been shown thru multiple interviews from Zack Snyder himself that he & Netflix both AGREED to releasing a PG-13 rating & again thru multiple interviews that he was given complete creative control over his IP & has stated & quote “not being handcuffed” by Netflix. Regardless, it is NOT an excuse to release a sh**ty version of your film 1st just so you can release a “director’s cut” later on so you can recreate the same hype that happened with Zack Snyder’s Justice League. If your R-rated director’s cut film is expected to be the superior film, then release that version FIRST & let it be the only version. & regardless of what rating it is, it is the directors job to make sure that the film has a cohesive story & character development for its characters. A PG-13 rating is again NOT an excuse for its severe lack of character development & plagiaristic/derivative plot. Again, this criticism is echoed by MULTIPLE reviews of the film. So it’s not just me. With its rotten tomato score of 23% with critics & it’s audience score dropping down to 61% as more reviews come in, it’s clearly a flawed film. That’s just the fact of the matter & the hardcore Snyder fanbase that may like the movie regardless of its obvious flaws is not going to change that fact.

[@brentarellano46]

@@billycjohnson08 ok well lol you can criticize it for copying seven samurai, and apparently plagiarism cause yes so many movies these days are so original. And yes Zack Snyder agreed to release the pg13 version because he's dealt with studios always neutering his films before because as he states, it's not responsible to have this kind of budget and rely on an r rated film. Yes I will though completely agree it is quite fucking stupid for Netflix to at all to request a pg13 version or even have that as an option when the r rated cut from what I read in the novelization is so much better. It truly doesn't make sense. Its fucking retarted cause all they accomplished is having critics like you rip apart the movie and ruining the hype for their supposed "own star wars" franchise. But at the end of the day I don't care, I liked the film, and I look forward to the directors cut as well as the 2nd film. Every other franchise I grew up with has been beyond ruined. So yes I will defend rebel moon. I know it's not perfect , even the novelization wasn't a LOTR or star wars OT masterpiece . But it does fix all the criticisms of the film as it exists currently. But again it's still leagues better than every other nerdy franchise. So I believe in Snyder. So respectfully I agree to disagree

[@IronLad-wn1ih]

​​@@brentarellano46Only cultist will believe Snyder's bs. Snyder wants us to believe that a platform which is famous for r rated content didn't wanted r rated version 😂. Almost 90% most streamed Netflix content are r rated. Snyder just use gimmick of director's cut. He will listen to all the criticism of fans, critics and will try to fix it in the name of director's cut. Rebel moon from every angle looks and feels like rip off version of seven semurai, Warhammer and dune. It is one of the ugliest looking movie. A decent director doesn't need 3+hour and r rating to make a good movie. Snyder ain't competent, he knows his movies are trash. So he likes to trick some audience in name of director's cut. Just look at his jl movie, it clearly feels like a movie made by listening to all the criticsm. To be fair his cut doesn't do much favour, only limited people (mostly his cults)will check his extended cut and will call it improved version. Zsjl is improvement over 2017 version but is still a mediocre mess.

[@brentarellano46]

@IronLad-wn1ih 🤷‍♂️I'll wait and see myself when the directors cut comes out. Nothing else worth watching anyways

[@OnlyTheBrave81]

The one dude that fell in love with the characters no one knows much about lol. I don't think he was a Snyder hater at all.

[@gamervet4760]

13:28 His story telling feels like a 14 year old trying to do everything he can to support his bad writing. You love it, you love it. More power to you. It's also nice to see a review not be 100% biased towards Zacky. I really like him, and I just want him to strike that balance he had in Watchmen to make another perfect film before he dies. That's all I want.

[@giannieg]

I appreciate the honesty of defending what you like. What I don't appreciate is the dishonesty of trying to present yourself as a former hater that is slowly converted over time, almost akin to enlightenment. "I'm not a Snyder cultist, buuuuut...-" Yeah. Yeah, you are.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I guess I liked 300, Man of Steel, and Watchmen. So if that gets me in, cool I guess. Not exactly sure it’s a badge of honor, but if it gets me out of jail for calling his Justice League mediocre I suppose I’ll take it.

[@giannieg]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 Not sure why you'd consider it "getting out of jail" in any way. Maybe you feel trapped by being called a supporter of his, that you feel the need to pretend indifference or distaste for some of his projects?

[@lukevankleef4245]

The best way I've seen it described is this comment on another Rebel Moon video: "Zack Snyder is like if Michael Bay thought he was Christopher Nolan."

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

That’s brilliant. Never actually thought of it like that before, but yes, 100% that!

[@thewitcherking937]

​@@animatedstorytelling1996it isn't.

[@thewitcherking937]

That's just a lazy false view of Snyder.

[@zachanator2011]

This is by far the fairest and best review of this movie because you've shown you actually watched this movie with an actual common sense brain, even your critique and i foresee in future people will come around I see a bright future for your channel if you continue this review structure. Kudos!

[@IronLad-wn1ih]

Buddy you are trying to tell that other reviewed this movie without watching it. For the first time I agree with critics and what they have told is spot on. In simple word, Rebel moon is lifeless version of dune,seven semurai and Warhammer. Not a single element is original. How can Snyder promote this movie as original vision 🤣 Dude just mashed up old movies,video games and made a full length movie. Why do Snyder fans thinks other that watch Snyder movies don't use their brain?? You don't even have to use 1%of your brain while watching Rebel moon. It's so simple and straight forward movie.

[@zachanator2011]

@@IronLad-wn1ih I've watched enough reviews to tell that most of them either didn't watch it or watched it on bad faith because the points this guy brings up make logical sense and he's doing it within context of this movie. He isn't just going in to attacks of Zack Snyder or trying to disengenually pick apart the movie all of his criticism were well thought out and not just the copy rinse and repeat of " oh this is just like that movie or this was stolen from that movie,Zack Snyder can't write and the only people that'll like his stuff are the Snyder cult" that has been the basis of 70% of reviews of this movie.

[@zachanator2011]

And I'm not a Zack Snyder fan in way shape or form. All I'm saying is there have 10 times worse movies to come out this year than rebel fucking moon for all you pussies to be up in arms over Zack fucking Snyder. It's weird.

[@zachanator2011]

@@IronLad-wn1ih to be honest Zack Snyder haters are way more weird than his cultists and that's a fucking fact

[@bestlexluthor7596]

Tarak and the General were bizzare fast scenes and Nemesis about just as bad. There HAS to be more taken out. But oof what a bad way to try to kick off an original “ universe”.

[@gamervet4760]

1:45 I watched it twice. First time with my son. I fell asleep and he played with his train set. The second time, I was alone, and I was drinking coffee. 😬

[@gamervet4760]

I was a Snyder fan. He made Dawn of the Dead (not my favorite zombie flick but pretty good), 300 (if you weren't roused, pumped, or inspired by Leonaidas you're a f***ing liar), and my favorite Snyder flick Watchmen. Then Sucker Punch came out, Man of Steel, BvsS, and a Justice League movie that wasn't finished, not of his own fault. Still, none of these movies had anything profound to say. They felt like bad fan fic appreciation pieces than actual comic book movies. That went on for far too long with far too little to say.

[@thewitcherking937]

Saying they had too little to say is false. Fans of those constantly engage with those and find new things in them. And by your silly logic, veery single comic book movie is a bad fan fic appreciation piece.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Not a big zombie movie person, so I missed his “of the Dead” movies. But yeah, I think 300 is his best work. I saw Watchmen at a young age, thought it was good then, but I haven’t seen it in a while to fully remember it and give a thought out review opinion. Agree about the DC stuff though. I did like Man of Steel, but I really was not fond of Batman v Superman, and thought his version of Justice League was a good movie, but not anything to write home about

[@gamervet4760]

@animatedstorytelling1996 Man of Steel felt like his audition to make a Batman flick. It felt like I was watching a bad low-key Batman flick. He just doesn't get Superman or Batman, and I just can't forgive that fundamental difference in his sloppy adaptations.

[@gamervet4760]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 300 is Snyder 100%. On full blast. Watchmen is his movie masterpiece. It's the best of both worlds for me.

[@thewitcherking937]

@@gamervet4760 yeah no. This is a dumb claim. Man of steel was nothing like a batman flick. Just because he didn't do the version of the characters in your head doesn't. Mean he doesn't get the characters. Your inability to Accept that more than one version of the characters can exist is no his problem. And he doesn't need your forgiveness and it doesn't make his adaptations sloppy.

[@djalil_YT]

You liked the guy taming the griffin? Dude!

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Yeah, I don’t know… I just liked for some reason. Couldn’t really tell you why, just liked his character.

[@didodidrive9412]

Hey, man! Did you get a copyright claim for your use of clips and music? And if not, how did you avoid that?

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

As of right now, this one is good. It’s very hit or miss though. Of the 6 videos I have, 3 are Copyright claimed. Normally for music. Turning down the music helps, but I make these videos knowing there’s a good chance they’ll be copyright claimed. I’m not doing this as a career, so it really doesn’t matter too much to me. Based on the type of content, it would likely fall under Fair Use, but rights still belong to Netflix, so if they want it claimed/down, there’s not much I’d do to fight it. Is what it is

[@didodidrive9412]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 I'm having the same issue. About 3 videos on my post page are copyright claimed but I'm still not monetized. I was years ago but the rules are different now. I wonder if it has anything to do with having more than ten-to-twelve seconds at a time and/or showing credits? Imma start there and see if it makes a difference. I did a video about Big Trouble In Little China and was able to avoid the issue altogether.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Studios definitely play a large part too. Anything anime related is hit immediately. Disney is like 50/50 for me. Sony also goes pretty hard, but I’ve gotten lucky with them a few times. I think limiting clip time and lowering volume is the best way to go if you want to try and avoid it

[@didodidrive9412]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 I am just seeing this message. I agree with what you said about the clip time and volume. Anime and Marvel content I believe is what you are saying has been the most challenging. I will keep that in mind. I usually take the volume out but there have been times where i used a short clip with audio included and had no issues. There wasn't really many musical notes played during the scene and I am pretty sure that is an important detail.

[@setlik3gaming80]

You love Zack. You are a SnyderBro.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I may come to you for this again on Twitter some day, next time I have to get out of jail for telling the Snyderbros that BvS is the Last Jedi of comic book movies.

[@davidbowers4270]

Some of the chi was crisp and then a lot of shit the bed. But Zach loves his live action cgi

[@frankwite81]

This is the most misleading, jock strap riding take of this trash of a film yet. Like dude literally never mentions how some of these characters just dissapear and why do we need a "directors cut" to figure a movie out?....load of crap review...smh

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Wait, who else disappeared? I know Jimmy and Aris kinda just fuck-off after the village, but did we actually lose other people? Also, the segment about the Directors cut wasn’t meant to defend the Directors cut, but point out Netflix shooting their own foot by choosing to play SnyderCut when it wasn’t needed. That whole point was that it was a bad faith move

[@frankwite81]

​@@animatedstorytelling1996dude I would be here for days finding the obvious flaws with this film. The young Soldier who looked at first like he would be part of the resistance...where did he go?😂

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I have to assume he stayed at the village. Like I said in the video, spending a lot of time on him and the robot felt really weird since they stayed behind but might have payoff in Part 2. (It better, really, but you get the point)

[@frankwite81]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 why do you even have to assume something so needed when introducing a character that is included significantly with other important characters in a pivotal scene and never once show him again? I mean he had significant screen time. He was introduced. For what? Even if smyder has chosen to include that character in the next movie or whatever "cut" he decides to swindle his core fans with, just the decision to not even give these Characters enough depth to even be interested in the characters and their signature call to knowing the tendencies of each featured character. Why the fuck was he rebellious towards his own platoon?...how did he even get that bold? ..all we have is questions we can for sure bet it will.NOT be answered. And this is just 1 huge obvious flaw this entire project seamlessly makes like lost of Snyders "cuts"

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

There’s sort of a win and lose with the Aris thing. On one end, you’re 100% right. From the story-telling perspective, it makes absolutely zero sense to spend so much time on him and have him amount to nothing. It’s a bad decision, and could have easily been fixed with a quick scene of him offering to look after the village while Kora was gone. But you also run the risk of another important question, and that’s why he’d care. His issue was with the way his squad behaved, so there’s little reason that he as a character should feel so indebted to a village he was stationed at. The lesser end of this though goes specifically to your question about assuming. Depending on certain factors, there’s nothing wrong with leaving some things in the air. I think the idea of us as an audience coming to the conclusion he remained with the village is a natural one. It could be wrong, but it makes the most sense, given what happened. I don’t think every answer needs to be or should be spoon fed, some things should be figured by context. Now, regardless of that point above, Aris isn’t the best example, as you said, he’s being shown to be a pivotal character with a pivotal role. So leaving his whereabouts up in the air is an issue! And one that’s going to bode very poorly should he just not be present when the characters actually reunite with the villagers at the beginning of part 2.

[@MrJustwatchin9]

Kai’s dialogue about being a better man made me thing that they fucked. But since it’s pg13 we would probably get a sex scene and more dialogue between them in the Snyder cut

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Huh… I’ll admit, that never crossed my mind. Either way, he needs to do heavy lifting with Kai. Only thing saving him is Charlie is a likable actor. Not exactly something you should rely on for a main character. Especially cause Kai feels like he’s meant to be important. More than Tarak, Nemesis, or Titus were

[@featherguardian6023]

I honestly don’t care of watching this Movie and seeing the Lack of Vision of Zack Snyder.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Haha!! I can understand that.

[@Darkwintre]

Warhammer 40k Did Snyder miss this?

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I unfortunately am not well versed in most sci-fi, so I likely missed it too.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Will look into it though

[@dougitoonsdesigns]

Thanks for being fair and objective. I love many of Zack's films, but I'm not a zombie fan. I fond rewatching Rebel Moon great for seeing more in the story telling each time.👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

[@didodidrive9412]

Check out the book. Wild stuff.

[@dso4594]

This review is weird. You apparently don’t hate Snyder😂 and you love the most basic aspects, sorry, mean rip offs in the movie. Nah man. C’mon.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I guess in fairness, I think he’s a good dude. More accurate would be I hate that certain sect of his fandom we all know about and see on Twitter. But to be fair to him, he got the basic stuff right. Yeah, it’s all been done before, but that’s most fiction out there now. I also tried to watch this with the mind it was half a product.

[@AbrahamHerrera1589]

Thanks for this review man, Zack's movies age like wine. Watchmen and 300 weren't exactly loved when they came out so I'm never worried about the criticisms on release. His movies aren't a product of their time, they are paintings that last forever. DaVinci was also very hated in his time but nobody is hatin' now. The director's cut of rebel moon will be the real movie and the one I will judge. People don't realize netflix is making a statement with this, there was no need to have two versions. In the summer the director's cuts of part 1 and 2 will come out, Clearly netflix knows they are the superior versions of the movie so they will release in the summer when all the studios release their best projects.

[@lanalan4157]

No...they get worse and worse lol

[@didodidrive9412]

The only problem I have with Rebel Moon is lack of character development. I've said it over and over. Besides that the shit is incredible. And we will be getting more from those characters before too long.

[@titianarasputin]

Normalize your audio to -2.8 before uploading

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Oh, I'll do that next time! Thanks for that!!

[@bestlexluthor7596]

Private Aris I swear is a big character that’s story got nearly completely got taken out.

[@didodidrive9412]

Prince Aris. He'll be back. 😊

[@tahnadana5435]

putting everything aside, i dont hate it as much as his army of zombie movie and his DC BS, but the attitude is there, that holier than thou attitude him and his fans really just leave a bad taste in everything, simply what CRINGE is really meant, you want everyone to say this crap is suppose to replace star wars?

[@IronLad-wn1ih]

Dude is clearly a Snyder lover He is trying to be edgy. Garbage Rise of Skywalker looks masterpiece Infront of Rebel moon.. For the first time after decades Disney/Lucas film did some good thing by rejecting this movie. Disney still aren't being able to recover, if they had accepted this movie then for decades they couldn't recover

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Even if this was a phenomenal 10/10 movie, it wouldn’t have replaced Star Wars. There’s too much inspiration from Star Wars for it to replace it. Not to mention Star Wars is the Sci-Fi Space Epic people think of whenever the genre comes up. It was beyond wishful thinking for anyone to think that could actually happen

[@tahnadana5435]

@@IronLad-wn1ih none at all, whiles lefties movie makers are playing activist, zack snyder is playing politician, using your dead daugher's suicide over your own neglect as an excuse to gaslight your fan when in reality you have been fired long before all that BS, yeah, there is nothing that makes me happier than if his bite the dust, the dude is not a good person.. not only because he made crap movie, but his BS attitude overall

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

Alright, probably should go easy on the dead daughter accusations, man. Regardless of feelings on that and how he riles his fanbase, that’s still a steep line to cross. Otherwise, I never really knew Zack had that same attitude. Know all to well there’s a whole sect of the Snyderverse fandom that does, but I’ve never really seen as much direct interaction from him as I do them. Sort of sucks though if that’s the case, I always just kind of assumed he ignored his rampant fans, not led them

[@tahnadana5435]

​@@animatedstorytelling1996 but thats what i meant by him playing politician, its creepy.. saying superhero fatigue is true whiles making a movie that can be only explained as characters with super powers, his full of shit, championing himself as the right wing crowd, but looking for any ways just so that he can jump into the woke bandwagon, it sad but its true, spreading story that rebel moon was once a rejected star wars script, thats just slimy, you product should do all the talking, not your BS interviews to set things up, also there are lots of video evidence that ray fisher his acolyte really do led them toxic fans, at least donald trump is consistent

[@theroguerider]

Not for one moment do I believe you are a “hater”. I definitely don’t hate Zack, I just recognize that the man who made Dawn remake, 300 and Watchmen has not matured as a filmmaker and made an absolutely, paint-by-the-numbers movie with rebel Moon. It is bad on so many levels. Is there worse out there? Of course, but this movie doesn’t even deserve an “okay”.

[@DanDan-fu6sd]

OH no, I wanted to love this movie! Sadly It felt like a comedy or a parody. I laughed all the way thought it and felt sad for those wonderful actors who gave it their "all". They were given nothing to work with, in regards to a plot which resulted in a collection of "done before", "tired", trope-ee, themed scenes. The slow-mo scenes were especially comedic and felt as if they were breaking that 4th wall. Sadly no original ideas anywhere to be found. If you want to laugh, then I suggest watching this movie.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I feel that. I was actually under the impression the sort of campy feeling was intentional, as I thought it was meant to sort of feel like the old 80s Sci-Fi movies. But a lot of comments here have been leading me to assume I had the wrong impression.

[@doc8013]

I'm really surprised to hear you compliment the character work and especially the camera work of this movie. Snyder HAS to stop being his own DP. He had such a wonderfully realized visual style and has completely abandoned it out of sheer ambition. Or worse yet, incompetence. Like, why not bring in someone who can shoot your movie effectively, man? It started in Army of the Dead and granted, Rebel Moon is shot a bit better, but that's only cause AotD was so brutally realized through his cinematography. The shallow depth of field, the blurry takes, the awful use of ridiculous lenses, the very poor framing. I'm a Snyder fan and the one thing I expect above all else going in is that visual style he brings. And man, his work at Netflix has really robbed him of that.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

The character stuff was more that they’re at the right stage of an Intro Film. Kora and Gunnar got the most work, as they’re our too main characters, and the rest got their basic intros that made them likable enough to want to see more. (Minus Titus; nothing against him, I just kind of forgot he was there). It was exactly what I expected in terms of character at this stage, though I agree a little more would have been nice. This wasn’t Snyder’s best camera work, but I still thought he did a pretty good job, especially when it came to capturing that sort of campy 80s Sci-Fi feel, but I also figured it was intentional. I do wonder if some of the lack of better visuals comes from a Netflix budget. Not sure what type of money this or Army of the Dead got compared to when he was making films for theatrical release, but that could play a hand. Hard to say for sure though without looking at numbers.

[@thewitcherking937]

Yeah no. He doesn't have to stop. I prefer his work with other cinematographers too but that doesn't make his own work bad. Calling the framing poor is ridicukous and false. You not Liking the lens or creative choices doesn't make them bad or that Snyder rus being incompetent. Rebel moon looked good.

[@doc8013]

@@thewitcherking937 you're very right, as long as someone is paying him millions of dollars with no oversight he can pretty much film however he wants. But Rebel Moon looking good isn't a fact. I guess it's subjective whether or not those washed-out lenses look horrible but there's a reason we don't use lenses with horrific distortions for reality-based shots. And the framing is pretty objective to me. There are some really good shots in the movie, but there's also some really bad framing going on, both casual and fight scenes. It's just the worst looking Snyder movie, other than Army of course.

[@doc8013]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 nobody other than Gunnar got much of any character work imo. Kora's character was explained almost wholly through exposition dumps and to me, that is the absolute worst form of "development". That's kind of how they introduced all the characters, actually. They even dump their ambiguous character overviews at the beginning of the third act cause they know the audience needed to know why they were even being captured. Nemesis got literally no character work besides that summary given by Noble. Same with Titus. Same with all of em really. I just think there was so much to be mined here but because Snyder refuses to listen and learn from his deficiencies he's bound to keep making the same mistakes that have plagued his whole career. Except now he's doing it as how own DP, which I feel greatly devalues his finished product.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I can see exactly where you’re coming from on that. It’s sort of a weird trick they do by telling you everything while editing in correlating scenes to make you think it’s being shown when it’s really just told. It’s a good thing to keep an eye on

[@JoseJimenez-fc6pu]

I think the man is talented as a visual director. He's just a terrible storyteller and writer and lacks any real originality. He's one of those rare breed of movie director who works best WITH a tight leash around him. Give him a story, a writer, a good script, and a controlled budget, and he might make a movie that's at least pretty good. Give Zack Snyder total carte blanche on whatever he wants to do, however, and you get Rebel Moon.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I’ve felt that way about him for a long time now. Despite being in the small minority of people that actually liked Rebel Moon, my opinion on that hasn’t changed. He just doesn’t have the ability to edit himself. And when he does, I feel he cuts out the wrong stuff. Even thinking back to his Justice League, it wasn’t a masterpiece, but the few scenes that actually helped fix a good deal of bad in the original could have been there from the get go.

[@TheNefastor]

Uncanny. Much like the "movie" being discussed, I can't tell if this "review" is supposed to be serious or just trolling. Hey Zack, is that you masquerading as a KZbinr ? Is that why we don't see your face ?

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I wish I had Hollywood Director money. Funny enough, the robot is due to a career in education. I don’t think they’d care too much since it’s just movie/tv/video game content, but I keep my face hidden so none of my employers/students could trace this back to me.

[@bestlexluthor7596]

Fair review. I’m a big Snyder fan. Thanks for not referring to fans as a cult. Many Snyder fans were also disappointed like me.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

There’s a fairly big distinction between “the cult” and Snyder fans. Being online as long as I have, probably more than I should be, has helped me realize the “cult” is too small a group of people to stick on his entire fanbase. Just wish that sect was a little quieter.

[@bestlexluthor7596]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 i hear ya. I think that all started with marvel comic fans threatened by a dc comic universe that they lambasted anything they did. ( I could care less about comic books. I don’t care for 90 percent them) Such a dumb dorky rivalry . I cringed for years going out for dinner if the subject came up about movies because if I revealed I liked man of steel or whatever else it was almost unbearable. I got told to take off a ZSJL tee on 2 separate occasions and root for GOOD movies . These are ADULTs telling me this and I’m almost 50 and I bought it to primarily donate to a charity. Then after Black Adam released I followed the news and realized it’s ALL of comic fandom acting like a bunch of babies.

[@PolytronikDigital]

you're wrong , its shite. period. i could list everything wrong with it but i cant be arsed spending anymore time on this pathetic attempt at a movie.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

That’s fair…

[@didodidrive9412]

You'll be watching part 2. That's for certain.

[@PolytronikDigital]

@@didodidrive9412 nope. i really wont be. his editing is like an entry level class in how not to edit a movie.

[@didodidrive9412]

@@PolytronikDigital HA! 😆 You gon' watch it, fool.

[@jredwine12]

Zack Snyder "hater"...you mean a grown up?

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

“Grown Up Watches Rebel Moon” doesn’t exactly please the all powerful KZbin algorithm. We’re rarely on the same side, so when the stars actually align and KZbin likes me, I try not to mess with it too hard. Until next video when they hate me again and push I buy a subscription to an SEO page

[@pinedamartin5767]

The soldier boy, the Girl and that robot should have being our main party, alongside with Kora. Wasted potential there.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I really don’t get why Jimmy and Aris weren’t part of the main group from the beginning. Seems they’ll have a role to play in Part 2, but I agree, massive oversight to leave them behind

[@chrissullivan6403]

I don’t think I can think of single redeeming quality in this flick. Absolutely terrible on all fronts.

[@gorbash07]

Thank you for the fair review. Saw the film twice already and looking forward to part 2. :)

[@joeyirc]

So I've made myself watch this 3 times and I have to say with each watch I am liking it more and more. Now I'm invested in the damned outcome lol. But isn't that what movies are supposed to be about the outcome. Sure he could have given us more character development. But he didn't. Get over it. Let's see in part 2 if he fills in the blanks better.

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

I think outcome is what makes or breaks a story a lot of the times. Tons of great stories have been destroyed by poorly put together endings. But a lot of those little details in middle portion is what determines whether a movie, or any piece of fiction, is good, great, or amazing.

[@RollingCalf]

I hate when people cry lightsaber ripoff . The lightsaber is not even a visionary weapon. It's just the next obvious thing you would make in the space age. I never heard anyone say Stargate ripped off cattleprods from farmers

[@animatedstorytelling1996]

A lot of people have gone the laser sword route, that’s true. I think people use the word rip-off too freely. But at the same time, lightsabers are “the laser sword.” Any sort of laser weapon is bound to be compared to them. In the same way guys like Homelander and Omni-Man will always be derived into “Evil Superman clones”

[@RollingCalf]

@@animatedstorytelling1996 agreed.