Zack Snyder Ruins Everything

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Michael Saba

Michael Saba

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@MinaF99
@MinaF99 8 жыл бұрын
I think I'm the only person watching this video who clocked the Rihanna in the background
@UltimateLegoFan324
@UltimateLegoFan324 6 жыл бұрын
Mina F What
@dontfuckwithcologne
@dontfuckwithcologne 6 жыл бұрын
What about OutKast and Killer Mike?
@T0y8rose
@T0y8rose 6 жыл бұрын
I missed Rihanna, but Eno at the end, nice touch...👌
@djangounchained2754
@djangounchained2754 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh compelet marvel boy!!! Don't wanna see outside of his chilidish fantsy movies..
@rahuanch
@rahuanch 3 жыл бұрын
I'm did too....
@brandonchristopher9657
@brandonchristopher9657 8 ай бұрын
This video is aging like fine wine. I've always said Zack Snyder is trash as a filmmaker and especially as a writer and the way he sees character types and developing characters is trash and time is always going to reveal the truth
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena 6 жыл бұрын
Why WB and DC agreed to hire a director to direct their movie but has no passion on comics is so puzzling to me.
@omjadhav9128
@omjadhav9128 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan suggested them !!
@SuCKeRPunCH187
@SuCKeRPunCH187 2 жыл бұрын
@@omjadhav9128 i think they wanted somene who was willing to emulate the tone of nolans batman movies.
@mosesoftheblock2311
@mosesoftheblock2311 2 жыл бұрын
He has pasdion for Frank Miller comics only.
@wholethedogsout880
@wholethedogsout880 2 жыл бұрын
@@omjadhav9128 well nolan is a damn fool
@Knoispowr
@Knoispowr 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, Zack has so much passion.
@stevenriften7561
@stevenriften7561 3 жыл бұрын
Snyder tries too hard to be edgy and it is annoying. Just look at the way he depicts Batman and Superman.
@cloroxbleach6039
@cloroxbleach6039 3 жыл бұрын
Batman killing and Superman not kind I mean wtf? We still haven’t had a live action of Superman’s nice side literally
@hello-gx6oi
@hello-gx6oi 3 жыл бұрын
@@cloroxbleach6039 bruh cristopher reevs Superman existand that's the good side of his Superman returns:hated becys it's a copy of cristopher reevs Man of steel: hated because it was different
@herloss448
@herloss448 3 жыл бұрын
@@hello-gx6oi no mos was hated cuz it was a reallly bad superman movie .telling superman should maybe let ppl die or bsing a douche isnt different .its being edgy by thinking its cool . snyder have never picked up a superman comic and im sure nor snyder fanbois .do u believe if i say snyder did 2 movies with superman without no fucking character development
@hello-gx6oi
@hello-gx6oi 3 жыл бұрын
@@herloss448 you missed the whole point of the movie lol
@Dxntoo
@Dxntoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@hello-gx6oi Don't bother. This dude is an idiot and can't form a proper sentence to save his life. I've talked to him a couple times before.
@haku-jin
@haku-jin 4 жыл бұрын
"The 2010s have been a pretty crap decade so far." Oh you sweet summer child.
@RYMAN1321
@RYMAN1321 4 жыл бұрын
Let's only hope 2020 isn't a sign for things to come. Starting with 2021, hopefully things will go up from there.
@CoronaMage
@CoronaMage 4 жыл бұрын
@@RYMAN1321 lol, you're all completely and totally fucked
@losses9699
@losses9699 4 жыл бұрын
CoronaMage well given that millennials don’t run any major nations. It’s gen x and boomers fucking the world
@kupalisky3553
@kupalisky3553 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoronaMage Unless you're an alien or something and don't live on planet Earth, you're fucked too.
@strider117aldo9
@strider117aldo9 4 жыл бұрын
Laughs in every Cold War decade (okay, maybe the 2020s will be bad, but not CW-level bad).
@thebatman9648
@thebatman9648 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how one man could destroy the prospects for an entire cinematic universe through one movie
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
Eobard Thawne!
@Dantevzk
@Dantevzk 2 жыл бұрын
BINGO!!!
@mosesoftheblock2311
@mosesoftheblock2311 2 жыл бұрын
It was a combined effort of Man of Steel, BVS, and Justice League.
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 2 жыл бұрын
@@mosesoftheblock2311 it was a combined effort of all you stupid MCU and dcau stans not getting it
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Warner Brothers.
@fernandofontenla8466
@fernandofontenla8466 6 жыл бұрын
The same happened with robocop! The Padilha remake brings the opposite message from the original! It's made to fit the narrative of "good" military absolutism of USA. The might is right ideology.
@peterp2153
@peterp2153 4 жыл бұрын
I never got that idea from Robocop remake. I think that film’s mistake was existing, regardless of its merits or lack thereof. By that, I mean that the original is such a well known, well regarded, Singular classic that the remake would have an even harder time than most remakes in being compared to it. If there was never an original Robocop, then the newer film might come off better, though it would still be a fairly ordinary film. It does try to tell a different story, or at least have a different overall theme and character arc. Which is to its favor. But when it references stuff from the original, it tends to try and invert them or use them in a different way, which actually draws more attention to them. Like you’re watching and say to yourself, “Ahh, Padilla is clearly trying to reference the original film but invert those references.” I guess the problem of remaking that film is similar to what would happen if someone tried to remake Gone With the Wind or Lord of the Rings or The Matrix. The shadow cast by the originals are just to big.
@corneliahale7871
@corneliahale7871 4 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh Padilha os so controversial here in Brazil. He directed two movies called "Tropa de Elite" that are about the police brutality on the favelas on Rio and organized crime. Even though the movie and even the main actor (Wagner Moura) says that the main character is a "monster", he still thinks he is a hero, just like the people here who thinks "a good criminal is a dead criminal".
@mistermastermind528
@mistermastermind528 4 жыл бұрын
@@corneliahale7871 I never thought he's controversial in his home country. That's a revelation to me.
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterp2153 The problem is that bad reboots like Ghostbusters 2016 or Charlie's Angel 2019 is not only that failed to reach the level as the original, it can also damage the reputation of the franchise as well. This leads to the audience that the aren't going trust the studio about the reboots and remakes anymore as if they are tired of it, and demanded for originality. However, if you want to make a reboot that can be done right, then you should respect the original source material and the hatred towards reboots and remakes would be reduced.
@ksvba9670
@ksvba9670 3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliahale7871 tropa de elite is a good film if you are aware of the socioeconomical problems of south America as well as the cultural problems, if you are unaware of the message its like a fascist movie. Tropa de elite 2 fixed that. Greetings from Argentina btw
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman 6 жыл бұрын
> 1k likes > 1k dislikes Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@obamaspaghettitoiletsauce9150
@obamaspaghettitoiletsauce9150 4 жыл бұрын
@ThisIsMyRealName thats two evils tho
@losses9699
@losses9699 4 жыл бұрын
Obama spaghetti toilet sauce literally how did what he said made sense. How about centre-left dems and centre-right republicans.
@jonasfelisilda5777
@jonasfelisilda5777 4 жыл бұрын
2k likes now
@lolilollolilol7773
@lolilollolilol7773 10 ай бұрын
All the Trumpists are Snyder fans.Snyder fans are all conservative morons. They love Snyder because Snyder is a conservative moron who showcases conservative "values": muscles, guns, white aryan superiority, religious fundamentalism, ridiculous patriotism, etc. Snyder sucked right from the onset in "300", which is the most conservative and outright racist, sexist, anti-LGBT piece of propaganda Hollywood has produced in decades, where the enemy (the Persians aka Iranians) are blatantly dehumanized and just cannon fodder, where the fascist Spartans are glorified and quote the fucking Bible (yes, I'm not joking), where the enemies are either effeminized or painted as gay. That's why the conservatives and the alt-right love it so much. That's why the Bush administration loved it so much.
@AnimeWorld4-i3i
@AnimeWorld4-i3i 8 ай бұрын
​@tubbyconnorapparatus9764 😅😅 People don't agree or like a something and they are automatically Snyder fans and bots
@neophenom
@neophenom 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see videos like this I do wonder how much can we blame the director, and if the writers responsible for some of this too. I mean Dawn of the Dead remake was written by James Gunn, but we don't hear anything about him when discussing the film. Seems like an incomplete assessment, if we are aiming to really unpack this.
@neophenom
@neophenom 2 жыл бұрын
And politics will always be part of entertainment. Even a movie like Top Gun Maverick is political by avoiding to be so. To think something can be politically natural, is to accept certain politics views as the norm and that is a statement in itself.
@carlospaim3287
@carlospaim3287 Жыл бұрын
This is usually not the screenwriter fault. Most of it is directing and editing
@wagnar
@wagnar 26 күн бұрын
Snyder is a terrible director because he can’t write a script, overuse of slo mo and bad CGI and lack of character development. Its not because politics. Triumph of the Will is literally nazi propaganda and its one of the greatest films of all time due his technical aspects. Same with Birth of Nation. I dont like when politics are used to dismiss a piece of art. Some of the worst people in the world has created the best art works ever seen. That is a fact. (Not the case of Snyder anyway)
@jrmop0965
@jrmop0965 7 жыл бұрын
Thor Ragnarok sales compared to Justice League make this video prophetic. Great analysis man!
@glintongordon6811
@glintongordon6811 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂🤣😂🤣 that says more about people being shallow than the movie as much as it wasn't the original idea
@cjstryder5441
@cjstryder5441 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is WB probably thought Justice League 2017 was going to bury Thor Ragnarok and then that first Ragnarok teaser trailer dropped and WB was like "oh no" this wasn't suppose to happen.
@dabblerdeluxe775
@dabblerdeluxe775 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBaBaTV true but I do think the character development and world building has gone downhill. Avengers 1 was much better in those terms then endgame which was lazy at best(professor hulk origins for example)
@0x0michael
@0x0michael 3 жыл бұрын
If you didn't watch Thor Ragnarok, yes Professor Hulk backstory would seem lazy to you
@dabblerdeluxe775
@dabblerdeluxe775 3 жыл бұрын
@@0x0michael Thor ragnarok hulk plot works with the original professor hulk origins and not the 2nd one they filmed that became endgame origins
@Ebrahim_17
@Ebrahim_17 4 жыл бұрын
Shazam is a great example of a DC movie as its super light hearted and fun. It would have been a disaster if Snyder directed that film!
@gdaugvst
@gdaugvst 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thebellreve Maybe the contrast between Shazams lightheartedness and Black Adam's darkness and brutality make for an interesting comparison. Or maybe Black Adam will make Billy take things more seriously and to become a more grounded person, I don't know - but I really don't want that light tone gone - it worked perfectly in Shazam.
@thomaspanditfan2435
@thomaspanditfan2435 3 жыл бұрын
@@gdaugvst and that was what bvs war supposed to be.
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 2 жыл бұрын
I already saw Shazam if directed by Zack Snyder. It was called Man of Steel and it was awesome.
@the_travelingbreeze
@the_travelingbreeze Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Shazam directed by Zechy Snider just for the shitshow that is his 14-year-old, “It’s-not-a-phase,-mom,” Libertarian/Conservative brain.
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 7 ай бұрын
​@@theunknowncommenter725 you mean it was hot trash.
@juanlambda27
@juanlambda27 6 жыл бұрын
Watchmen was one of the worst movies made in the last 30 years. I was cringing practically the whole time I was watching it.
@prajwaljayaraj5887
@prajwaljayaraj5887 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it did not understand the source material at all
@berettaxd7566
@berettaxd7566 3 жыл бұрын
Watchmen was bad. He is completely tone deaf. Like it will go from this brutal rape scene to this romantic scene like wtf???! It was painful to watch. But Sucker Punch was far worse. It was God awful.
@toasega
@toasega 7 жыл бұрын
The thing about Zombies is that they generally represent the fears of the general public at that moment in time. For example, while I did not see the original Dawn of the Dead, it took place in the late 70's. Woodstock had taken place 9 years ago in 1969. The traditional values that had held up American culture were being heavily challenged and rejected. Hard work and quality tools and materials were being replaced with convenience and the "Mall Culture" of the 80's and 90's. So of course, the zombies attack in the malls, stripping you of your humanity until there's nothing left but a shambling, mindless mass of moaning meat staggering from store to store, looking for something (or someone) to "consume". Shaun of the Dead. 2004. The fear is that of complacency, and the consequences that result from said complacency. Shaun's girlfriend is leaving him because he's TOO content with his life and has no ambitions. His best friend is a lazy bastard who lives on his couch, and his roommate despises them both, though he himself is trapped in his own level of complacency, which ultimately leads to him becoming a zombie. Every zombie throughout the film is another person who lived a complacent life; the store clerk, Mary (the zombie), Shaun's own mother, the neighbors, and finally Ed (Shaun's friend). And even after the smoke has cleared, people use the zombies for the same menial tasks that they would have done when they were alive. Shaun and his girlfriend accept a life of mediocrity, and the whole message is that we're ALL zombies, it's just that some of us aren't dead yet.
@jamesduffy7549
@jamesduffy7549 6 жыл бұрын
these were my exact thoughts as soon as I saw his interpretation of rorshach, even alan moore has said he doesn't understand the popularity of the character
@gnarrcan108
@gnarrcan108 4 жыл бұрын
He totally missed the whole point of the fucking book lmao. He’s literally only read Frank Miller shit.
@FangsFirst
@FangsFirst 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnarrcan108 And he doesn't even understand Frank Miller, either... He thought _The Dark Knight Returns_ was filled with Batman murdering people.
@FangsFirst
@FangsFirst 4 жыл бұрын
These were my exact thoughts when I saw his _Dawn of the Dead_ . Then when I saw _300_ . Then when (under some duress at this point) I saw _Watchmen_ and then swore off his movies forever.
@jorgecortinhal7654
@jorgecortinhal7654 4 жыл бұрын
Dudes, of course he reads and understands comics and wtv. BUT I do like he don't make his movie characters simillar to the comics. It's his vision, it's different, it's cool and its unique, and not more of the same thing.
@jamesduffy7549
@jamesduffy7549 4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgecortinhal7654 he absolutely doesn't. Im fine with adaptation, but his film can't really be called watchmen. It's theme is the exact opposite.
@inferno0020
@inferno0020 4 жыл бұрын
Snyder was inspired by Heavy Metal comics that care about ultra violence, nudity, and power abuse. I dont think he even cares about any deep message. He might love rain, sex, Jesus allegory, or apocalpyse dream sequences, but that is just his tropes that he know how to play with. When we realize that he identified with General Zod more than Superman in Man of Steel, we know something was not right with this movie.
@MistaJ28
@MistaJ28 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure. A director talking about his personal life and the things he liked which includes sex and violence inspired him?? Wow tells so much about your personality here. You must have a lot of friends. And if he only cared about those, i wonder why he removed the part where Laurie and Dan had sex in Antarctica after everything happened and replaced it with giving a full message about how Dan and Laurie fixed their lives and tried to live happily.
@inferno0020
@inferno0020 3 жыл бұрын
@@MistaJ28 lol if you want mature works, go watch other films or pick up a novel or non-fiction. Debating about Watchman is lame. btw Z-Synzzle's best film remains 300 because this film doesn't pretend what it isn't.
@MistaJ28
@MistaJ28 3 жыл бұрын
@@inferno0020 My man im not here to debate about movies which is far from my point. Im here to talk about how laughable your logics are in every single prespective. Debating about Watchmen might be lame which is why i didnt try to debate about that which is also not the point, but nitpicking others personal taste and taking it to your advantage to sh*t on him is the lamest among all. People like you are the same reason why no one cant talk about what they like or dislike these days. Because all you does is crying and whining about them only because you dont agree with it. I thought you would've understood how much lame that is after a 1 year but nope. Still the same Dbag. Plus, i dont give a damn on what you think about ZS's movies. Just saying.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
He’s a fucking hack dude
@Oldschool1943
@Oldschool1943 2 жыл бұрын
that was fox not Disney regarding Deadpool 1 & 2 15:28
@DeadlyDanDaMan
@DeadlyDanDaMan 3 жыл бұрын
Most of Snyder's films that he DIDN'T WRITE were his best ones, which include Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen. One's that he DID help write were all complete flops. That should tell you all you need to know about Zach Snyder.
@IDreamElectricSheep
@IDreamElectricSheep 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 You're right, 300 doesn't AT ALL fall under the umbrella of his uber-fascistic totalitarian "euro-merica first and greatest" political propaganda, not at all, it doesn't falsify history by purposely claiming that iranians were racist fascists, i mean it WASN'T iranians who wrote the first declaration of human rights that includes the ban of slavery, payment for working class, women and even war captives, and everyone's right to speak their mother tongue and practice their own religion, in all of the 23 satraps under their government spanning three continents; right? 🤡
@MistaJ28
@MistaJ28 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Zack Snyder was credited as the "Co-Writer" of 300.
@LarryHazard
@LarryHazard 3 жыл бұрын
Watchmen is his best film and I can barely give it 5/10. It works just because the original story is great and it almost copies it shot for shot, the problem is it betrays its spirit and tone over and over in fact 5/10 might be too generous. The guy has never made good movies. If you think 300 is a good movie then I guess you're the type to think The Dark Knight is the best movie ever
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, he’s a hack.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@MistaJ28 It was written in a graphic novel by Frank Miller, and Snyder only wanted to take credit in writing the movie-only elements of 300. It’s a movie that’s a product of its time and has aged terribly.
@overlord6993
@overlord6993 Ай бұрын
Zack snyder turns everything to shit while james gunn turns everything to gold
@pradeep1042
@pradeep1042 16 күн бұрын
Really nigga?
@Tien1million
@Tien1million 6 ай бұрын
I think you give Zack too much credit, I think he's just making things that he thinks looks cool.
@MacysShopLifter
@MacysShopLifter 5 жыл бұрын
Angsty edgelords coming an disliking this video without even watching it
@redranger337
@redranger337 5 жыл бұрын
I watched it, I still disagree, I disliked.
@koichidignitythief7429
@koichidignitythief7429 5 жыл бұрын
I watched it but I didn't need to watch it to understand it's just another person blaming Zack Snyder for literally everything under the sun.
@conorobrien4046
@conorobrien4046 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree zack Snyder is a hack, I don’t think his works are bigoted whatsoever. That’s why it gets the dislike
@RadinV1
@RadinV1 5 жыл бұрын
@@redranger337 fuck you then
@iseeundeadpeople9
@iseeundeadpeople9 4 жыл бұрын
@@conorobrien4046 Then you're completetely blind. Or never watched a single one of his movies. Or you're lying.
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 4 ай бұрын
Just watched "Twilight of the Gods ", Zack directed the last episode and it was the worst by a mile. I was enjoying the series till the end.
@mrcraigbeckett
@mrcraigbeckett 23 күн бұрын
His movies look like crap. All the colours washed out. I think that’s why something like Ragnarok was so appealing. It was colourful and funny and had emotional stakes.
@Tomgaar
@Tomgaar 7 жыл бұрын
I was JUST finishing the video and thinking "you know, all these observations could also be applied to a certain other director a lot of people seem to like nowadays" and BOOM, there goes the stinger. Fantastic piece Mr. Saba!
@andrewmaingi255
@andrewmaingi255 4 жыл бұрын
Which director was that?
@TheTurbanator123
@TheTurbanator123 4 жыл бұрын
Who is it Micheal bay. They went to film school together i heard lol
@HarryS77
@HarryS77 3 жыл бұрын
Lol same.
@michaelmoore1697
@michaelmoore1697 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmaingi255 Christopher Nolan
@vincentprado
@vincentprado 3 жыл бұрын
Snyder is not a director, is a slowmo machine.
@user-re3nr9fd6f
@user-re3nr9fd6f 3 жыл бұрын
@General Skywalker In my opinion yes
@inigobantok1579
@inigobantok1579 3 жыл бұрын
@MistaJ2002 Jon Favreau, James Gunn and Anthony and Joe Russo: Hold our beer
@oldarthurmorgan6319
@oldarthurmorgan6319 3 жыл бұрын
@MistaJ2002 zack Snyder made JL good but it still isn't a legendary film or amazing film by any means it still doesn't rival mcu at all I like that it's trying to be darker I love that and they should be making more rated r films but saying zack Snyder is the better director than any mcu ones is stupid as hell my guy
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldarthurmorgan6319 Yet the one that destroyed Justice league is Whedon. One of the MCU director. No MCU movies can be considered as Masterpiece unlike a lots of DC film. Too much comedy and no memorable villain proves that its a badly written.
@oldarthurmorgan6319
@oldarthurmorgan6319 3 жыл бұрын
@@death2able agreed but joss only directed the first avengers (which is good) but had help of the Russo brothers which are legends in the mcu and age of ultra by himself and that movie sucked ass so no it's joss just being garbage the proble not mcu because infinity war and endgame which are directed only by the thesis brothers are really good films so in the end it's joss wherein that sucks ass AND he made one bad mcu film
@sugarenthusiast2519
@sugarenthusiast2519 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, Zack Snyder doesn't ruin everything. There are some movies he wasn't allowed to touch.
@rekhamangairkarasi9801
@rekhamangairkarasi9801 8 жыл бұрын
And what are those
@astillia6073
@astillia6073 4 жыл бұрын
@@rekhamangairkarasi9801 Citizen Kane and The Room
@diamond_dude1063
@diamond_dude1063 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thebellreve dceu sucks.
@herloss448
@herloss448 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thebellreve yeah thats why it failed and needs a reboot
@PejmanMan
@PejmanMan 8 жыл бұрын
wasn't deadpool fox?
@donaldsossamon5095
@donaldsossamon5095 7 жыл бұрын
PejmanMan I was with him until he said that.
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
It's says ** And 20th Century Fox in the top left corner.
@ChrisMaxfieldActs
@ChrisMaxfieldActs 5 жыл бұрын
@@parker469a Also, Disney promptly bought Fox, so now they profit from all of it.
@djangounchained2754
@djangounchained2754 4 жыл бұрын
He is fucking annoying . I mean he just wanna watch these marvel movies. I also like them but they are kinda childish. Some of them are pretty good
@-randomedits-4612
@-randomedits-4612 3 жыл бұрын
Not anymore
@HiddenLunarWings
@HiddenLunarWings 8 жыл бұрын
I don't like Zack Snyder either, but he isn't the only director to use politics in movies. In fact, in lots of movies, other directors use underlying political themes, and do them well. Zack Snyder is just static and bad at it.
@FANDOMlong-live-US
@FANDOMlong-live-US 8 жыл бұрын
Moozy Foozy yea but most directors manage to do that we'll he... doesn't he makes it preachy I like undertones but not like that
@abangemirzaihanabangzulkip9502
@abangemirzaihanabangzulkip9502 7 жыл бұрын
And now Kathleen Kennedy seems to put a lot of politics in the SW universe.
@blacklantern-mh2rb
@blacklantern-mh2rb 6 жыл бұрын
Moozy Foozy 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂you love Snyder like all the others. Stop fooling yourself
@Kadaspala
@Kadaspala 6 жыл бұрын
It's not just that he's static and bad at it. It's that he takes beloved stories like Dawn of the Dead and Watchmen and completely change their fantastic themes -- the heart of what made these works so great and meaningful in the first place -- to his static reactionary bullshit.
@jessep1890
@jessep1890 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know the guy but his movies suck
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, considering the movies that we have available to watch, why the *fuck* would you watch a Zack Snyder movie?
@TheExecutioner21
@TheExecutioner21 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Delarge him and nolan are my favorite directors
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 6 жыл бұрын
XOVO Gross lol
@weplayatnight3913
@weplayatnight3913 5 жыл бұрын
The Muslim scene where theyre praying on their rugs is meant to show how people in mass are praying for the world because of zombies, and what does a gas station blowing up have to do with 911?
@yastheaustralian8590
@yastheaustralian8590 6 ай бұрын
No about the dawn of the dead on middle eastern and Muslim people , you see a similar rhetoric in Batman vs Superman where Snyder made Muslims/middle eastern/ African people as evil barbarians disgusting racist he indeed is with a BIG AGENDA
@samsamsammmsam
@samsamsammmsam 6 жыл бұрын
"Snyder is telling you (the viewer) to associate zombies with muslims" This may genuinely be the worst take on a film i have ever seen. You're stretching more than mr.fantastic when all you're tying to say is 'i don't like his movies'.
@kylehill6636
@kylehill6636 5 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, what's so bad about his take on the beginning?
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I took the Muslim stuff as "look WAR, current events around the world, they're eating people... when did they start eating people?"(ohm yum yum yum yum)
@kylehill6636
@kylehill6636 5 жыл бұрын
@@parker469a to question your take, Why did it have to be JUST Muslims? Why not do it around the world like show some shots of France, Germany, Japan, China, etc....?
@kylehill6636
@kylehill6636 5 жыл бұрын
@@OutsiderAus10 Did you find the videos take incorrect? And if you did, why?
@fast.jortimer
@fast.jortimer 5 жыл бұрын
"Superman is a fascist in this movie because he hits a man who threatened his mother." Leftist takes on media are worse than the right.
@mariobadia4553
@mariobadia4553 5 ай бұрын
Holy shit this video aged like a fine wine
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
Don't let Snyder get his hands on Injustice. He'd probably try to convince us that Superman is the good guy in that situation
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 3 жыл бұрын
What makes you think that?
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli He clearly loves authoritarianism
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 3 жыл бұрын
@@---gj3qn What do you mean? MoS and BvS are blatantly anti-authoritarianism.
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli Did you watch the whole video? He doesn't handle the topic all that well.
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli The movies are based on the comics. But like any adaptation there will be changes and his changes have some very bad implications sometimes. The original source material might be anti-authoritarian, his changes not so much.
@dreamthief286
@dreamthief286 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps more than Hobbes, Ayn Rand is a big influence in the Snyder worldview, as he declared himself to be a admirer. Yes, the Atlas Shrugged, "I'm better than you so I should be in charge" Ayn Rand.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT 6 жыл бұрын
Some people on here are just crying because they like Snyder, or some of his work, so they're arguing that the author of the video is just mad that Snyder's politics don't reflect his own. (Some are more measured in their criticism but make a similar point.) I think there *is* something there; Ayn Rand is fucking garbage and I think telling a story based on her edgelord worldview is going to result in a pretty unsatisfying movie. But it's not like he's unfit to direct *any* movie; it's not like he was a bad choice for something like Watchmen. But for "Superman"? My fucking god, I can't imagine a worse director. (I can imagine some equally bad. None worse.)
@imtm
@imtm 5 жыл бұрын
i'm from brazil, so i don't know much about Ayn and her books, but could you please explain the ""I'm better than you so I should be in charge" Ayn Rand"? Out of context the quote don't seem wrong, so i'm imagin the context of you using this.
@dignerds
@dignerds 5 жыл бұрын
I know about Ayn Rand and Snyder only likes aspects of her ..His DC movies is inspired by Joseph Campbell...Snyder has a great passion for Joseph Campbell's philosophy , yet you haters don't want to harp on that ..
@imtm
@imtm 5 жыл бұрын
@@dignerds still don't getting the "I'm better than you so I should be in charge" quote, but he's just a hater, i should not expect nothing at all anyways
@CrissAssasin7
@CrissAssasin7 4 жыл бұрын
@@SchulzEricT I'd say he was a bad choice even for Watchmen. The 300 however...
@RagnarRoxShow
@RagnarRoxShow 8 жыл бұрын
Snyder Snidini Lupus Est. I lost it when Guinan popped up. This is pure gold!
@dignerds
@dignerds 4 жыл бұрын
This vid is trash
@TigerNightmare
@TigerNightmare 3 жыл бұрын
I have yet to have a positive experience with a Snyder fan. Not one person was like, "Yeah, I get how you wouldn't like anything about Batman v Superman, it's not for everyone, but I really appreciate Ben Affleck's performance, etc." Nearly all of them weaponize the tragic death of his daughter, evoke a vague air of persecution by referencing a receipt-free, "they mocked his daughter's suicide, therefore they aren't allowed an opinion," towards anyone who even mentions Superman. One person even got upset when I called out his oft referencing of their suicide prevention charity as a shield for criticism for all these toxic assholes that harass others. "That's not all of us, we saved lives!" Y'all want a better reputation, stop using the supposed good deeds of a few to defend the douchebaggery of the many. Call them out, end the dismissal of different opinions to the point of harassment, stop trying to invent a rivalry where you have to say insane things like, "Man of Steel destroyed Iron Man!", stop chiming into every discussion just to be contrary, stop yourself before you say something and ask, "Will this make other Snyder fans look good?" Please try to not be a dick.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
I always love snyder movies. Hoping for justice part 2. He's a great director.
@KelX91
@KelX91 3 жыл бұрын
@@death2able You should watch world finest batman...it makes ZS batman a lazy billionaire..batman can do so much better
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 3 жыл бұрын
I dislike most of his work but enjoyed the Dawn of the Dead remake because if you swap out "western civilization" with "the human race, or at least all but the richest humans, and also like all biodiversity on Earth" you have a much more factual statement than the crap he believes. The disaster happens. The world goes to hell, and humanity uses it as an excuse to unleash their inner demons. And the people who survive are the ones suited for such a world, those who are happier in it. It's an expression of a desire to get it over with and just enjoy what you can while it lasts, because it's hopeless to actually plan your life around success here and expect to enjoy a single moment and not die filled with despair over your regrets. For a lot of people, their lives feel like a prison. When their normal life is destroyed and there's no hope for it anymore, paradoxically that is hope. By letting go of the hope you have for saving yourself or the world, you have access to the hope of enjoying the world you live in. Yeah, definitely nihilistic and cynical. But, if we already were thinking about socioeconomic and climate science politics as a person when we watched it first instead of focusing on the creator's awful subtle racism, there's a massively relatable story in there of a desire I think a lot of us feel pretty often these days. Sometimes it seems like it would just be better if we stopped this will-we-or-won't-we with the dystopian hell, because we're so tired of fighting this culture war that's sometimes just a straight up war. If it didn't matter anymore, the constant weight we feel on us would be lifted. For all the awfulness that requires, nobody is wrong for feeling the power of that idea. You go bad when you stop keeping the awfulness in mind. Otherwise, it can be a comforting fantasy for people to imagine a life where, regardless of how they have to struggle to survive, the current struggle is _finally_ over. The next one might suck even more, but at least it's something else. I'm fine with such matters being in a zombie movie (just... drop the racism!) but it doesn't belong in Superman.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@PosthumanHeresy Still one of the best director out there. I'm glad lots of directors and actors think that as well. He deserved all the success in life. Also the Dawn of the dead remake is one of the best zombie movie ever. So god like skills.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@KelX91 Yea i now, lots of cool batman stories that a far better than his cut from different timeline in comics, tv show and movies. But its okay because it is not the focus of this film or series. Still one of the best superhero movie.
@jonesgranny1312
@jonesgranny1312 8 жыл бұрын
First Snyder didn't direct 300 Rise of an Empire. He directed 300. Also 300 and Watchmen are neither "remakes, sequels or reboots of existing works". So you discredit yourself and video within the first 50 seconds of it.
@thefutureispeace
@thefutureispeace 7 жыл бұрын
no, but it shows the person is careless in thought and therefore you can't really trust he put much thought into his entire argument.
@dragohstelath1725
@dragohstelath1725 7 жыл бұрын
watchmen and 300 are comic books bro
@JordoGarcia
@JordoGarcia 7 жыл бұрын
dragoh stelath They've never been adapted for film before.
@gorun815
@gorun815 7 жыл бұрын
@michael stephens well said...
@bluesorcerer83
@bluesorcerer83 6 жыл бұрын
Snyder didn't direct Rise of an Empire, but he wrote its script. 'Nuff said.
@emc7405
@emc7405 4 жыл бұрын
Snyder - NOT a fan! Don’t like his movies
@CrissAssasin7
@CrissAssasin7 4 жыл бұрын
Snyder is fine. His problem aren't politics, it's that he's internally a teenager, who gets to direct movies. His visual style is great, but he seems to struggle to implement it with the story in any meaningful way. He's pretty much all style, no substance, or at least very little substance.
@matteoclarkus2932
@matteoclarkus2932 4 жыл бұрын
His style really disgusts me tbh, like if thats what hes going for its done the job but the hyper-contrasted super sweaty dank grim grunge-ness really repulses me.
@jackmartin5393
@jackmartin5393 8 жыл бұрын
I'ts kinda obvious that Snyder puts political undertones into his films. "On this Earth, every act is a political act" is a direct quote from BvS.
@jonathangonzalez9673
@jonathangonzalez9673 8 жыл бұрын
Jack Martin yeah but he is bad at writting it, is as cheesy as independence day when the president goes all "ill fly a jet and fight the aliens.my self.woooo"
@politereminder6284
@politereminder6284 5 жыл бұрын
I think he puts more anti-religion undertones in his movies. In the DCEU, all his stories are about god-killing
@bus7343
@bus7343 3 жыл бұрын
JGC 9-0 in today’s day and age is that wrong? If Superman were real doing things, would it not stir up anything politically?
@chrisanderson2204
@chrisanderson2204 3 жыл бұрын
DC literally has the best animated series and animated movies writers.Paul Dini,Greg Weisman, Dwayne McDuffie (RIP),Bruce Timm,Alan Burnett.Why don't they make them write the DCEU movies???
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 3 жыл бұрын
Because Chris Terrio is a better writer.
@asmrbully6980
@asmrbully6980 3 жыл бұрын
you know what happened if they did, like geoff johns
@herloss448
@herloss448 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli 🤮
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 3 жыл бұрын
@@herloss448 I don't know about that. Argo, BvS and the Snyder Cut are pretty awesome.
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli Not better, but so far just about as good with DC stuff. All excellent
@herriothilaire1
@herriothilaire1 5 жыл бұрын
#ReleaseTheSnydercut !
@carlisle6831
@carlisle6831 4 жыл бұрын
We won 😂 losers like him are seething lmao
@gnarrcan108
@gnarrcan108 4 жыл бұрын
@@carlisle6831 seething at what lmao. His movies suck and people have been saying it for years. Snyder cut is gonna be on HBO max and it’s gonna suck most likely bc Snyder doesn’t understand the source material you enjoy watching it but real DC fans are gonna be like “wow this 3 hour JL movie where Superman has no soul and Batman is a serial killer is fucking ass” Snyder is ass at storytelling.
@HelloThere-yy6lu
@HelloThere-yy6lu 4 жыл бұрын
@Gnarrcan You haters never learn. First it was: "it doesn't exist" Than it was: "it exists, but it'll never come out" And finally: "tHe MoViE iS gOnNa SuCk" You haters just can't except the fact that the fans are getting what they want, get over it.
@carlisle6831
@carlisle6831 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnarrcan108 the film will be 4 hours long 🤦🏻‍♂️ atleast know what you’re speaking about before you come off as a fucking idiot
@omjadhav9128
@omjadhav9128 3 жыл бұрын
@@gnarrcan108 go and watch marvel film !! Don't interfere in dc
@ZanderEzekial77
@ZanderEzekial77 8 жыл бұрын
Nah It's funny that you come to the same conclusions about politics in media that Errant Signal (who you referenced in the video) so eloquently rejects in his videos. Even though I generally don't agree with Snyders more obtuse points, I respect his vision and I like the way he portrays the stories he tells. I feel like you have to be an educated viewer of content and acknowledge politics while not also mindlessly accepting them. Just saying outright "don't go to see these films" is harmful, especially when you realistically know that any movie with Batman or Superman is going to do well at the box office regardless of protest.
@carb_8781
@carb_8781 3 жыл бұрын
i strongly agree. his movies are so annoying. he sucks the joy out of everything.
@rilist_7603
@rilist_7603 3 жыл бұрын
That’s his style, if u don’t like his style that’s fine, me personally I love his gritty and bleak style. It’s different and unique and made for me
@pyrefly7575
@pyrefly7575 3 жыл бұрын
@@rilist_7603 hahaha damn man some people really don't like cinema
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree Bout him sucking the joy out of everything. I've watched Man of Steel plenty of times. I always get some joy out of it seeing as it is a Clark Kent movie (the real identity). Plus the scenes of him interacting with his mom and just how he interacts with people in general is nice
@ezj8262
@ezj8262 6 жыл бұрын
I'd rather Hollywood not put in their social commentary. I hate watching propaganda films.
@voiceofreason467
@voiceofreason467 3 жыл бұрын
"It's Nihilistic at best and authoritarian at worst. Gorgo: Freedom isn't free at all. That it comes with the highest of costs, the cost of blood. Team America Song parodying conservative rhetoric: Freedom isn't free, it costs folks like you and me. " Um... am I too late to call this stupid and point out that this is a universally accepted notion of the cost of fighting for freedom? This was a statement used by French Revolutionaries, Unionists, Progressives and Civil Rights leaders of both past and present. Seriously, if you wanna convince anyone that Snyder's movies are authoritarian propaganda, go right ahead, but this phrase and sentiment is not one of them.
@toshdeluxedr.680
@toshdeluxedr.680 5 жыл бұрын
That is why James was directed aquaman
@ADrunkSuperman3
@ADrunkSuperman3 6 жыл бұрын
Zack Snyder is like Micheal Bay. If Micheal Bay was pretentious.
@vanblitz7009
@vanblitz7009 3 жыл бұрын
nahh
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Bay Lite
@somandlanigel416
@somandlanigel416 2 жыл бұрын
Micheal bay IS pretentious
@marcossandrosilva6979
@marcossandrosilva6979 Жыл бұрын
@@somandlanigel416 Elaborate
@WorthlessWinner
@WorthlessWinner 6 жыл бұрын
How dare an artist put his own ideas into his works! He should be putting Michael Saba's ideas into his works instead, right?
@sandwichninja
@sandwichninja 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This dude does the _exact_ same shit he's accusing Snyder off.
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 Жыл бұрын
Zack Snyder doesn't "ruin" anything. He's a great director and a great storyteller. Problem is that his haters are some of the dumbest people in the world.
@kavykesharwani
@kavykesharwani Жыл бұрын
Warner Bros is also dumb if they support Snyder and follow his vision then DCEU gonna be fire 🔥💯
@MrExuvia
@MrExuvia Жыл бұрын
"Dumbest people in the world" Says the dumbass who couldn't even counter-point anything from the video or giving any actual argument on why he's a great director or storyteller. Blinding following this shooter just because he makes "cool" doesn't make him good
@KarmaJoe
@KarmaJoe 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with dark and gritty in a comic book movie. The Dark Knight is proof of that. I welcome movies that are dark and gritty, but Batman v Superman was not that. When a movie lacks depth, then the dark and gritty tone that the director is going for is effectively undermined. Whatever tone you're going for it all comes down to storytelling and character development. Snyder simply did not do a good job of that in B v S and Justice League. Had nothing to do with politics and tone imo.
@DeadlyDanDaMan
@DeadlyDanDaMan 3 жыл бұрын
Because Snyder is complete shit at being a storyteller, hence why all his best movies were ones that were written by other people.
@PabloHernandez-yo9qd
@PabloHernandez-yo9qd Жыл бұрын
​@@DeadlyDanDaMan what a joke 😂
@youthnando
@youthnando 4 жыл бұрын
And yet people still talk about his movies In full detail So my guess you either like or hate him Someone can easily explain why he sucks But at the same time someone can explain why he is good So he just a controversial director
@gaylordcomic
@gaylordcomic 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem is that those who hate him don't respect those who do.
@zakichan851
@zakichan851 4 жыл бұрын
@@gaylordcomic that's my problem too
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 7 ай бұрын
Nobody can explain why he's good without dishonesty. Because he's not good he's utterly awful in every way.
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 7 ай бұрын
​@@gaylordcomic But that doesn't happen in pure vacuum does it? There are plenty of utter trash things that will mean people will lose respect for you if you say you like. For example if I say I enjoy s******* in my own shoes people are going to lose respect for me. There are certain things you should be embarrassed of.
@jip3788
@jip3788 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this comment section looks like a bunch of people bitching about how good Snyder is. ZSJL is AMAZING. DEAL WITH IT.
@mingchenwei1978
@mingchenwei1978 3 жыл бұрын
Black female
@jip3788
@jip3788 3 жыл бұрын
@@mingchenwei1978 lol what?
@yomamaballsinmyw
@yomamaballsinmyw 3 жыл бұрын
no one is talking about ZSJL. zsjl wasn't that good. it was just coherent, and way better than josstice league. superman sucks, batman is god awful, and flash is fucking garbage. because zac synder is obsessed w being edgy and can't write complex characters
@jip3788
@jip3788 3 жыл бұрын
@@yomamaballsinmyw For a movie that had to introduce and develope 5 characters, they are very well written so I have no idea what you're talking about. And please explain to me at what exact part are any of the characters edgy? If you're "edgy" means "a serious story" then you shouldn't criticize movies.
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@jip3788 Just to answer the edgy part: I'd say Superman Heat Visioning off Steppenwolf's horn can be seen as edgy. Darkseid crushing Steppy's head too
@TheReverantChoir
@TheReverantChoir 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you ever wonder how zombies became so played out? Or why blockbusters have to be 'dark and gritty' these days? Or why you can't shake that overwhelming feeling of exhaustion and nihilism when you watch a Zack Snyder movie?" No, not really
@aztroboy1450
@aztroboy1450 5 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, we shouldn't blame Zack Snyder for ruining DC, it's Warner Bros we should blame.
@RagnarokMic
@RagnarokMic 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know, all the entirely non-Snyder DC movies in recent times have been good, and rather well received.
@johnotto-wl2yh
@johnotto-wl2yh 10 ай бұрын
No Snyder is also part of the problem you just don’t wanna admit it
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker 4 жыл бұрын
You keep showing 300: Rise of an Empire but he didn't direct that; Noam Murro did. Also, almost all of the criticism you have on Watchmen is present in the director's cut of the movie. Anyway, I'd watch a dark, depressive and adult superhero movie over that kiddie Marvel crap any time of the day. Then again, to each his own.
@WHATPISSESMEOFF
@WHATPISSESMEOFF 6 жыл бұрын
zack snyder didnt make rise of an empire. he adapts exisitng stories cause he cant tell his own and fails at that imo
@deepakjam2521
@deepakjam2521 4 жыл бұрын
So every director tells their own story Isn't that written by others
@gaylordcomic
@gaylordcomic 4 жыл бұрын
I mean he's not a writer hes a director
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he only wrote Sucker Punch on his own, and it’s absolutely terrible.
@jasonb6860
@jasonb6860 7 жыл бұрын
This video essay needed more citations from snyder's works beyond dawn of the dead and 2 seconds of Watchmen. It also should have noted how much Snyder has been influenced by Ayn Rand, rather than focusing solely on Hobbes; Snyder's repeatedly tried to make a film of Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead to no avail. How did anyone think it would be a good idea to give Snyder, the ultimate cynic, the job of portraying Superman, the ultimate embodiment of Locke's humanist ideals?
@MichaelSaba
@MichaelSaba 7 жыл бұрын
You raise a really good point. I had thought about including something on Ayn Rand when I was writing the script for this, but I balked at making the video any longer because at the time I was still pretty new to editing. The objectivist / 'rational self-interest' lens does go a long way in explaining why Snyder's films are so philosophically muddled (or just plain confused, as with Watchmen). I think this is worth bringing up in the video essay on Joss Whedon I'm planning to release in the run-up to the Justice League -- thank you for the thoughtful comment.
@jasonb6860
@jasonb6860 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Tbh imo Rand is largely the 1940s iteration of Hobbes (like Hobbes sans religion), so focusing on the Hobbes wasn't a mistake or anything like that. I'm not sure if my initial comment conveyed how much I agree with and enjoy your video; it's really well made and convincing. Mostly I just would have liked a few more citations that show Snyder's cynicism, but maybe that's an indulgent ask of a video that's already 16m long.
@runningcommentary2125
@runningcommentary2125 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonb6860 Pretty sure Hobbes would have hated Rand and seen her ideal society as just another form of the State of Nature.
@LPempty
@LPempty 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so embarrassing maybe it’s a good thing this was left out 😭
@oldy7827
@oldy7827 7 жыл бұрын
Reaching pretty far with a lot of these theories. Comparing the truck to 9/11? Come on, dude.
@thefreerepublicofadmiralpr2935
@thefreerepublicofadmiralpr2935 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, but you’re entitled to your opinion, as we Snyder fans are entitled to ours. It’s freedom of speech. For me, Zack Snyder is my inspiration and why I want to be a director. I agree with some of the criticisms in this video. I do think he takes the politics a little hard sometimes. But with that said, I think you and a lot of people in this comment section could benefit on seeing positive analyses on Batman v Superman and Zack Snyder’s Justice League. I’d link some, but KZbin is anti-linking. They’ll just delete it. I’m not looking to start a fight. I just want to share my perspective on the whole matter. I think he is a master visual storyteller, but the Snyder Cut is proof that he is awesome at world building and character development when he’s not being held back by studios. I think the big studios are the real villains here, cutting the wrong stuff out of his work, so it looks like that he is a bad director when he really isn’t. I think, if some of his other less well-received films were to receive the director’s cut treatment, you all would see that his films are much deeper than you think. Again, you all are free to have your own opinions. I just disagree because I know that his films aren’t terrible. There are plenty of videos as to why. I probably won’t continue the discussion in reply threads, so thank you all for listening.
@nandu1770
@nandu1770 3 жыл бұрын
There was no character development in zsjl.
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@nandu1770 That's not truth or justice, that's a lie
@TheVagabond627
@TheVagabond627 3 жыл бұрын
Reading these comments, I’m only further convinced that this is a cult
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@Swordagrim Cringed.
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
Black Lanterns I tell ya
@sprouteruprooted
@sprouteruprooted 6 жыл бұрын
It's sad that you don't understand the sheer Symbolism Snyder shows in his movies, you're one of those people who wanna watch a popcorn flick and enjoy marvel movies
@Zethonring23
@Zethonring23 7 жыл бұрын
Snyder is an okay director at best, he's good with visuals and CGI. He's good with atmosphere and world building but he can't see it through. Especially compared to others like Whedon, Nolan or Del Toro, Snyder's "Action" movies especially are incredibly unsatisfying. They're so poorly paced blandly choreographed. He needs to stick to trivial popcorn flicks like 300 and leave monumental films like Superman and Justice League to more capable directors.
@sarubet8725
@sarubet8725 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that truck scene is a reference to 9/11
@TimeForDunston
@TimeForDunston 3 жыл бұрын
Zack took my all time favorite zombie movie and completely perverted it. He took it's messages of the dangers of mindless consumerism, humanity's willingness to fight amongst each other during tough times, and made it about god punishing sinners or whatever. He completely ruined one of my all time favorite movies and either intentionally or unintentionally missed the point of the zombies in the first place.
@shadowstrike234
@shadowstrike234 3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey damn look at you getting triggered
@tctyt
@tctyt 3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey snydertard spotted
@DeadlyDanDaMan
@DeadlyDanDaMan 3 жыл бұрын
The zombie outbreak in the remake was NEVER explained. I've watched that movie SEVERAL times and NEVER got the feeling that he was trying to make some stupid religious message. That's YOU that is projecting that, moron.
@Mazgid
@Mazgid 3 жыл бұрын
Well This video has aged bad
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
The Snyder Cut wasn’t that good, chill
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@curly_wyn This feels like spam
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 7 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? It's as relevant then as it is today.
@ahappyklingon3631
@ahappyklingon3631 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody who disliked this video were close minded Snyder Stans. Can't say anything negitive or in this case the truth about someone's Messiah without them getting butthurt.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
Disliking this video is not that bad when it's actually a same idea of this video.
@ahappyklingon3631
@ahappyklingon3631 3 жыл бұрын
@@death2able Social media is fueled by "likes" & "dislikes" . Majority of the time people will hit "dislike" cause they don't like the title of the video or the headline of an articles & never actually watch nor read them. The stupidity I constantly see in the comment sections on social media always proves that they didn't watch/read it. Why are people close minded & scared of information these days is beyond me.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahappyklingon3631 my friend, why do you dislikes the people who dislike this video that's meant to dislike someone. and you ignore the facts that i said, how ironic that you kept saying that fans dont or cant accept new info or stuffs while ignoring my point. It's a simple point my friend. Since when disliking is bad? And you also doing it.
@ahappyklingon3631
@ahappyklingon3631 3 жыл бұрын
@Steven Panitan lol the video does indeed have a point & by saying that you agree with it so how it is bullshit? How is the truth considered bullshit? Is the truth too hard to swallow?
@ahappyklingon3631
@ahappyklingon3631 3 жыл бұрын
@@death2able If you dislike the video it means you don't agree with what he said. Plain and simple. I like the video. WB, AT&T & HBO have all tried to explain that ZSJL underperformed...so badly Infact that they have zero interest in sequels nor the Snyderverse & the Snyderfans are refusing to believe it just like they refuse to believe MoS & BVS were not well received.
@TheEbbemonster
@TheEbbemonster 6 жыл бұрын
I agree that his movies are bleak and with no personality, but I did, however, enjoy Dawn of the Dead quite a bit.
@ChrisMaxfieldActs
@ChrisMaxfieldActs 5 жыл бұрын
James Gunn's script helps.
@nazreplicas7930
@nazreplicas7930 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaxfieldActs and zack's Cinematography helps alot too.
@valenluca3253
@valenluca3253 4 жыл бұрын
Ehh, no
@nazreplicas7930
@nazreplicas7930 4 жыл бұрын
@@valenluca3253 ehh, yes , haters been crying since the snydercut is coming out
@nicolasbazzano2028
@nicolasbazzano2028 6 жыл бұрын
I am beyond ecstatic that Snyder is gone from DC. Wonder Woman’s greatest accomplishment was proving his darkly monochromatic murder porn version of the DCEU isn’t the only way to go, and now Aquaman and Captain Marvel (using the power of Shazam the wizard) will continue the march away from Zach’s pessimistic hatred fueled view of Superheroes.
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 6 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Bazzano It's ironic that you dog on Snyder's murder porn while praising Wonder Woman because Wonder Woman actually intentionally murdered far more people than Superman, and she actually killed the wrong people to top it off.
@dr.deadpool5959
@dr.deadpool5959 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing that I really like about Zach Snyder is his cinematography he can bring a comic book panel fo life, but apart from that his storytelling is weak. His Justice League cut was beyond what I expected but when you think about it, if it was released theatrically they would have to cut so much to condense it to 3 or 2.5 hours and would probably not be as good.
@doctorstrange-love2166
@doctorstrange-love2166 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone every watched a Snyder film and thought "Wow, this is a metaphro for ______ *anything*"?
@nathans5347
@nathans5347 6 жыл бұрын
Oh please. You make this whole video and then you wrap it up saying that we as consumers need to ask for funnier more light hearted movies. Just because Snyder’s movies are TERRIBLE doesn’t mean darker movies just can’t be critically good. Besides, aren’t we getting plenty of light hearted super hero flicks anyway?
@ItsSVO
@ItsSVO 2 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely spot on, The Batman is dark as fuck and also an incredibly well written and directed film.
@nathans5347
@nathans5347 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsSVO I'm looking forward to seeing it in a few days!
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
The point is that Snyder just doesn’t do dark well. The OP still thinks that dark movies can be good.
@masterxII7
@masterxII7 6 жыл бұрын
Man I am so sick of the bandwagon Snyder bashing. I love his films.
@jacobkirk1846
@jacobkirk1846 4 жыл бұрын
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with choosing a darker tone for your films. The man is just trying to add his own voice to familiar material, and tries to interpret that material in new, unique ways, that hopefully contain a little more substance than the average blockbuster. I don’t love all of his films, but I definitely admire his dedication and work. Zack is an inspiration to many.
@peterricketts8645
@peterricketts8645 8 жыл бұрын
All art is political. All philosophy is political. The problem is simply that you dislike the sort of politics that the movie promotes.
@CyberLance26
@CyberLance26 7 жыл бұрын
Yea people never complains about stuff like that when they like it and agrees with it.
@BuFFoTheArtClown
@BuFFoTheArtClown 6 жыл бұрын
Art is not political. Art is a recreation of reality and is meant to inspire. Whatever you call art that is political, is just propaganda.
@youtubeuser3357
@youtubeuser3357 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Buffo the Clown
@MutantsInDisguise
@MutantsInDisguise 6 жыл бұрын
Art and philosophy are not in favor of politics, jerk.
@ridanann
@ridanann 6 жыл бұрын
@Mr Temporal war war war war o yes lokk how moral politics is lol can u not tell when ur being lied to or somthing. poltics is control thats it. now if ur ok with being controled ok each to there own but if u wish to try an live as free as possible dont vote dont play the game. dont worry about hobbs hes was an idiot in a time of religious morons an irish genocide. all the political thinking needed is just try not to be a cunt if we had vote on that it'd be the end of politics. rip the people hobbs book killed in the name of lies
@Strong_Opinions
@Strong_Opinions 2 жыл бұрын
dude I can’t tell if you’re complimenting Zack or criticizing. You say Zacks themes are “plain as day” but the opening scene to his Dawn of the Dead is much more subtle than the original, because in the original it establishes its themes through obvious dialogue and scenes that couldn’t be more obvious. I mean what’s more obvious than having one your characters say “reason, reason, reason” or “we must not get emotional”. I think Zack is never too on the nose with his themes. And I don’t think he simply Glorifies his themes either, since the characters trying to keep up order and peace are often portrayed with a comical/satirical note directed at them. It’s like he’s saying yeah, I agree with their motives but these guys can be assholes sometimes. Just my thoughts.
@LPempty
@LPempty 2 жыл бұрын
It hilarious how you missed what he spelled out in the video. Must be Snyder fan 😭
@Strong_Opinions
@Strong_Opinions 2 жыл бұрын
@@LPempty I did and it didn’t convince me of anything which is why I replied. Must be a Snyder Hater: see how easy it is?
@LPempty
@LPempty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Strong_Opinions must be? Clearly I am from my comment 💀 I was calling you dumb bc all of you are the fact that you didn’t catch on to it is just proving my point. He clearly states it is not subtle like did you not watch the vid
@Strong_Opinions
@Strong_Opinions 2 жыл бұрын
@@LPempty I understand clearly what the video “spelled out.” I don’t agree with him and have my own opinion. I think all you Zack haters will one day stop watching his movies through MCU goggles and realize he’s a pretty great director with his own vision and voice.
@LPempty
@LPempty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Strong_Opinions that’s not what you said in your comment 💀
@captaindeadpool313
@captaindeadpool313 4 жыл бұрын
I see the flaws in his work but regardless I like it. Interesting visuals/visual storytelling and dark yet engaging moments. He is a very rare director. For better or worse. He's still better than Micheal bay, Joel Shoemaker and Josh Wheaden at least imo. Art is subjective.
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
Why mention Joel Schumacher?
@tarkovskijnoir
@tarkovskijnoir 8 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion - but I think Snyder removes thoughtless celebratory tone of action and replaces it with genuinely interesting and two sided arguments on the nature of propaganda, politics and herodom. He's like Peckinpah, but with a budget. He critiques authoritarianism as much as as portrays it. I think many just ignore the framing and context of many of Snyder's films. Such as the frame of 300, which essentially points at itself saying "THIS IS A GUY IN FRONT OF A FIRE, TELLING PEOPLE WHO GO TO WAR HOW AWESOME WAR IS!" - and think about when the film got released (at a time where people thought FREEDOM FRIES was legit a good idea). Similar with Sucker Punch. It's a film about feminism that constantly removes any ability of self-emancipation by providing various frames (this includes the movies as a medium) to showcase how any sense of liberation is already pre-mediated as a form of narrative that's being provided by somebody else. The individual is only able to free themselves by abandoning certain liberties for a greater freedom. Yet instead of using that as a happy ending, it showcases the complications surrounding it - something that MGS2 also does. BvS is essentially one of the most formalist action films ever made. It takes TDK - which was a film about the ending of a period of neo-conservativism - and applies it to now - a period in which neo-liberalism is slowly but gradually ending (see the way the left abandons Hillary). And Watchmen is a tricky one. You point out how things are merely "stuck" at the Doc, but... it's more complicated. By removing the Squid (
@CabezasDePescado
@CabezasDePescado 8 жыл бұрын
the people who critizice it is the ones who dont understand it
@Bayo106
@Bayo106 8 жыл бұрын
same i think he is a great and unconventional film maker
@cwoherem
@cwoherem 8 жыл бұрын
+yutube jode well then thats a lot of people who dont understand it then, considering the bad reviews come from the majority, and the majority should represent a good amount of people.
@MothmanReturns
@MothmanReturns 7 жыл бұрын
That is just plain ignorant.
@Carlos_Tacos
@Carlos_Tacos 7 жыл бұрын
tarkovskijnoir What youre saying may be purely true (what youre saying makes sense) BUT i must say that even if a movie has a strong mesage. It doesnt make it good if its one of the rarest good points about it. All his movies have terrible character developpement, writting, actors, etc. Even if he does sometimes surprises me well (i genuinely like 300 and Watchmen)
@mike_sauce
@mike_sauce Жыл бұрын
Snyder didn't direct rise of an empire fam. He only produced it. He did direct the first one though.
@lecturesalternatives8421
@lecturesalternatives8421 6 жыл бұрын
10:59 Your comment on the opening of Dawn of the Dead is a flat-out misinterpretation. "Idyllic life in residential suburbia, manicured lawns, children playing in the street, one last glimpse of bourgeois middle-classe existence before a nightmare of blood fire and teeth tears it away leaving a vision of paradise's lost." If you think the sky-shot of an empty, lifeless neighbourhood is supposed to be praising a lifestyle that has been criticized and prooved to be unbearable for the last fifty years, well... you're just plain wrong. The kids is on its own, isolated. This intro is the perfect opposite of what you see in it, it's a criticism. What is presented to us is what triggers the attack, there will always be zombi attacks as long as that kind of neighbourhood will exist. Snyder blames consumer society and capitalism, just like Romero.
@nazreplicas7930
@nazreplicas7930 4 жыл бұрын
So back in 2016 BvS released and yall got the chance to talk shit about him and shit on his work, wow what a surprise.
@guyr3618
@guyr3618 7 жыл бұрын
A bit hyperbolic, but I still agreed with all your major points. Good video.
@Cameron_TPTNS
@Cameron_TPTNS 8 жыл бұрын
Disney didn't make any money on Deadpool considering its a fox product.
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
It's says ** And 20th Century Fox in the top left corner.
@dignerds
@dignerds 6 жыл бұрын
"A surface level appeal" Couldn't be more wrong...The storytelling is in the visuals, atmosphere, tone...he is a visual storyteller..he shows you more than tells you..almost in the mold of Kubrick..He is one of the best visionaries of our time.
@Razielbergamini
@Razielbergamini 3 жыл бұрын
I hate conservative media as much as the next guy, but I have to say.. I do not agree with the conclusion here. "Keep your politics out of my entertainment." I would argue that entertainment mediums are great and effective way to convey political ideas. That is important, because politics literally govern all aspects of our life, so if someone feels that a certain message is important than I do not see what is wrong with them putting that message into a media format that they are associated with. People have strong emotions with things that are political, and you should not gatekeep your entertainment because you don't agree with the fact that it involves a political message instead of a philosophical one or whatever you think would be better.
@TheNerdMan2
@TheNerdMan2 6 жыл бұрын
So your thesis, all comic movies should be light hearted thoughtless pop corn movies. This has to be one of the dumbest conclusions to an otherwise interesting video. I like variety in superhero movies. I don´t want all of them the same. Some of the best to date have been serious or had dark themes, Oldboy, Sin City, Kick Ass, Batman Begins, Chronicle, Unbreakable, Superman 2 and Wonder Woman. Anyway good vid, but cos of that concliusion I can´t thumbs up or subscribe.
@tompor561
@tompor561 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot Logan and the Xmen film series in general. Freaking love them dx
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t pay attention to anything he said, did you?
@mitchell7309
@mitchell7309 Ай бұрын
Totally accurate. The only thing I’ll disagree with is man of steel. It was solid. It still was Christopher Nolan having him on a leash, mandating he make a Batman begins style film for Superman. The issues with it are really because Superman returns was so shitty in the opposite direction thus thedestruction, porn and relentless action scenes that become monotonous. But the character while not totally accurate, it was closer than what followed when Zack Snyder was off the leash and made murder man versus mope man.
@PSYCHOBEVO
@PSYCHOBEVO 6 жыл бұрын
Funny how you show off James Cameron as a contrast to Zack Snyder, when James Cameron himself is a fan of Zack Snyder.
@kapilsethia9284
@kapilsethia9284 4 жыл бұрын
PSYCHOBEVO oh that's why he killed Jack in Titanic.
@catsthemovie4692
@catsthemovie4692 4 жыл бұрын
Again having stylish movies isn't equal to good characters and story. I think they like his style
@catsthemovie4692
@catsthemovie4692 3 жыл бұрын
@sunbro of astora he isn't but his work does have fascist undertones you can't deny that reading isn't there. The director himself seems like a nice dude.
@catsthemovie4692
@catsthemovie4692 3 жыл бұрын
@sunbro of astora interesting that you read the opposite
@SpiderJerk2000
@SpiderJerk2000 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this vid didn't age well.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
The Snyder Cut wasn’t that good at all, chill out
@jtaylorbr
@jtaylorbr 2 ай бұрын
It didn't age well, it aged DAMN well. He still keeps doing this trash.
@c.i.a.932
@c.i.a.932 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, this aged so poorly lmao
@RandomlyDoing1230
@RandomlyDoing1230 3 жыл бұрын
1 decent movie and it was farrr too long. Way more excited to see what Matt Reeves does.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
ZACK SNYDER’S JUSTICE LEAGUE WASN’T THAT GOOD AT ALL.
@MrBruh-yb9qi
@MrBruh-yb9qi 2 жыл бұрын
@@curly_wyn oscarsn't?
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomlyDoing1230 What 1 decent movie? I'd say that's the Theatrical Cut of Dawn of Justice for me. Thoughts and opinions on Matt Reeves The Batman? Personally, I believe the movie is awesome and I love the character arc for The Batman. What about you?
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@Aroko 76 Why ZSJL?
@Etienne.6329
@Etienne.6329 4 жыл бұрын
When Snyder fanboys start making noise, I use this video as a balm for my mind. It’s still as relevant and as good as 4 years ago.
@alphareturns5988
@alphareturns5988 4 жыл бұрын
Zack will prove all you haters with the snyder cut.
@porassrivastava8242
@porassrivastava8242 4 жыл бұрын
@@alphareturns5988 he doesn't need anything to prove. If movies like FFH and Captain marvel can make 1 billion and be rated higher than most movies on RT. Who cares anymore, just enjoy what you enjoym
@AngryPeopleStudios
@AngryPeopleStudios 6 жыл бұрын
Dude you point out the depressing philosophy and politics of the original Dawn of the Dead and end the video insinuating that films need to be fun like Deadpool/Disney's Marvel and to 'Keep politics out of my entertainment'. I'm all in for Snyder not making more shitty movies, but that final message don't suit the end of the video (to me at least). Disney is the most evil and money grabbing business on earth regardless of how "relatable and fun" they try to be
@TheExecutioner21
@TheExecutioner21 6 жыл бұрын
August ´Poul´ Niclasen I like snyder but yea, disneys killing the film industry
@nimazsheik5152
@nimazsheik5152 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad to see the dislikes on such a thoughtful and well put video. Comic book fanboys are like babies. You don't have to agree with all the points on this video, just appreciate the effort and unique perspective that the content creator is trying to show....
@stonedcrusader
@stonedcrusader 7 жыл бұрын
The amount of pretentiousness in this video is astounding. "Keep your politics out of my entertainment"? That's your conclusion? I guess you just hate challenging films in favor of movies that are serving your exact political views, which is not only an incredibly arrogant way of looking at films but it's also a very limited and ignorant way of thinking about art as a whole. Not only that, but you have the audacity to tell people with different taste to stop watching movies you don't like? Wow. You're the definition of what's wrong with critics nowadays.
@drkidd25
@drkidd25 7 жыл бұрын
Matches Malone agreed. This guy is an idiot.
@MakiPcr
@MakiPcr 7 жыл бұрын
You forget that Rand's lover was married and much younger than her (and more attractive than her husband); and she got him (and his wife I believe) to accept the deal because "objectivism" and when he did the same she got mad. It's typical right-wing rhetoric, like "Protect Freedom of Speech! But not for people I don't like"
@asch7906
@asch7906 6 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man Homecoming has garbage politics behind it and no one complains because "Hey, it's so fun!"
@samwoodson9603
@samwoodson9603 6 жыл бұрын
What garbage politics are in Spider-Man Homecoming?
@stranger59
@stranger59 6 жыл бұрын
Whenever people say Snyder's films are "challenging" I remember Rorschach jumping out of the window, hitting the ground... and immediately getting up to kung fu fight a bunch of police officers. Rarely has the meaning, tone and intent of a scene been so purposefully, tragically and hilariously betrayed for no good reason at all. The unmasking, the moment when the cryptic Rorschach is revealed to be just a man, is now proceeded by a choreographed super brawl.
@marcelo2169
@marcelo2169 Жыл бұрын
People who have nothing to say usually try to bash the other who has.
@Silver-yw3gs
@Silver-yw3gs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the synercut was just a set up for a film that needed 3 or more films to tell a story. It's not even leading to a good story. He wants to have DC go edge lord and its annoying as hell
@gorillathemancomics3282
@gorillathemancomics3282 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no edgy Batman, he’s never edgy😐 And Man of Steel was grounded showing a more realistic Superman origin, and then in Justice League Superman is boyscout
@Dr.LongMonkey
@Dr.LongMonkey 3 жыл бұрын
@@gorillathemancomics3282 Superman and realism AHAHAHAHAHAHA dude how don't you realize what ur saying
@gorillathemancomics3282
@gorillathemancomics3282 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.LongMonkey grounded* giving the characters more story and more heart in a more realistic world
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
2 more movies actually. Justice League II and Justice League II. With spin-offs taking place before and after films
@AllHailTheKang
@AllHailTheKang 3 жыл бұрын
With all of zacks new found fanboys, I don’t think his box office sales are going down any time soon. Don’t worry, Warner Brothers are “anti Znyder,” now.
@pushkalvasudev790
@pushkalvasudev790 3 жыл бұрын
Which led to josstice league and how did that turn out to be?
@AllHailTheKang
@AllHailTheKang 3 жыл бұрын
@@pushkalvasudev790 josstice league lead to the Snyder cut, and how did that end up being?
@pushkalvasudev790
@pushkalvasudev790 3 жыл бұрын
@@AllHailTheKang pretty awesome actually
@AllHailTheKang
@AllHailTheKang 3 жыл бұрын
@@pushkalvasudev790 to you yeah, to me I thought it was bad
@AllHailTheKang
@AllHailTheKang 3 жыл бұрын
@@pushkalvasudev790 also if you’re a zack Snyder Stan, what are you doing here
@leorodgz2050
@leorodgz2050 4 жыл бұрын
This guy in 2016 : everyone hates Zack Time to make a video!! Zack fandom in 2020: knock knock !!
@gravyfish4684
@gravyfish4684 8 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect example of someone forcing an agenda to fit their own personal narrative
@negavenom
@negavenom 8 жыл бұрын
Like paul feige and his reboot that shall not be named.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 6 жыл бұрын
And that is not wrong? everyone does that, at least the video maker and Zac are more honest about it.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
Like Zack Snyder!
@sammitman3031
@sammitman3031 5 жыл бұрын
U know who ruins everything? Joss Whedon. Zack Snyder puts a mature and grounded take on stuff for the most part and makes it relatable. Made the perfect superman movie - man of steel.
@netrox0072
@netrox0072 5 жыл бұрын
I liked his MoS, but not his BvS and JL.
@eriklords9432
@eriklords9432 5 жыл бұрын
@@netrox0072 Man of Steel got good reviews from general audiences, so the only group of people that agree with you are critics. There are multiple videos out there about how the people such as Geoff Johns who submitted their own ideas to reboot Superman, after the Singer/Routh Superman Returns flopped, told the critics to write that they question Nolan's vision for the chaeacter. With in house sabotage that's why pampering of the critics stopped until recently. That affected critics scores. MofS made more money than all of the Marvel phase one movies except Avengers, and more than Thor 2. Superman Returns, a direct sequel to Donner Reeves, was a hit with critics but lost money and was panned by audiences, WB Execs were impatient, greedy, and stupid. MofS made 300 million more than Batman Begins, but their egos demanded that they bury Marvel right out of the gate. They wanted a billion from MofS, so when they only made more than every Marvel phase 1 movie other than Avengers, and also more than Thor 2, they ordered Snyder to form a DCEU and hijacked his Superman series, told him Batman had to be in the second movie, told him Batman had to fight Superman (ask yourself what kind of story it would have been if you knew Batman would not kill, which IS something the character has done prolifically when originally created, and even in Keaton/Burton's version, and the movie was called Batman vs. Superman), made him stick the rest of the Justice League in there, and even Armin on this KZbin channel has covered how they chopped out and mutilated how Batman came to rescue Superman's mom. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqHchGOfmNuYmrM As if that weren't enough they cut down his movie and butchered it. The Ultimate Edition is widely regarded as vastly superior to the theatrical release. So MofS had some interference, but was mostly Chris Nolan/Snyder, BvS was heavily interfered with starting with the insertion of Batman fighting Superman. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3mWpqauZceDgMk
@eriklords9432
@eriklords9432 5 жыл бұрын
Man of Steel got good reviews from general audiences, so the only group of people that agree with you are critics. There are multiple videos out there about how the people such as Geoff Johns who submitted their own ideas to reboot Superman, after the Singer/Routh Superman Returns flopped, told the critics to write that they question Nolan's vision for the chaeacter. With in house sabotage that's why pampering of the critics stopped until recently. That affected critics scores. MofS made more money than all of the Marvel phase one movies except Avengers, and more than Thor 2. Superman Returns, a direct sequel to Donner Reeves, was a hit with critics but lost money and was panned by audiences, WB Execs were impatient, greedy, and stupid. MofS made 300 million more than Batman Begins, but their egos demanded that they bury Marvel right out of the gate. They wanted a billion from MofS, so when they only made more than every Marvel phase 1 movie other than Avengers, and also more than Thor 2, they ordered Snyder to form a DCEU and hijacked his Superman series, told him Batman had to be in the second movie, told him Batman had to fight Superman (ask yourself what kind of story it would have been if you knew Batman would not kill, which IS something the character has done prolifically when originally created, and even in Keaton/Burton's version, and the movie was called Batman vs. Superman), made him stick the rest of the Justice League in there, and even Armin on this KZbin channel has covered how they chopped out and mutilated how Batman came to rescue Superman's mom. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqHchGOfmNuYmrM As if that weren't enough they cut down his movie and butchered it. The Ultimate Edition is widely regarded as vastly superior to the theatrical release. So MofS had some interference, but was mostly Chris Nolan/Snyder, BvS was heavily interfered with starting with the insertion of Batman fighting Superman. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3mWpqauZceDgMk
@eriklords9432
@eriklords9432 5 жыл бұрын
@Helo1138 You're delusional. The audience score on Rotten Tomatoes and all of the other sites us positive.
@VitaliyMilonov
@VitaliyMilonov 5 жыл бұрын
Erik Lords >delusional >rotten tomatoes l.o.l.
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