Zackray Is Making Pit Look BROKEN

In today's video we look at part of Zackray's INSANE loser's run at Kagaribi 9 using Pit a character thought by many to be a mid tier in competitive Smash Ultimate
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[@rang4889]

That's the thing about characters that are considered "honest". They really only need a good rep to pull off the potential they truly have

[@nathanlevesque7812]

"honest" doesn't mean anything

[@rang4889]

@@nathanlevesque7812 it usuammy means: nothing outstandingly good or bad

[@Ryan-uq7kj]

I've always thought that the Pits were way underrated. I'm glad it's finally being recognized.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

ppl just forgot what Zackray does

[@andrewwebb624]

Agreed, decent punish game, broken recovery, multiple jumps, good buttons, combos on hits and grabs (a lot of swordies don't have this one)

[@silvesta5027]

FUN LARRY FACT: On the 16th October 2022, Larry won DreamHack Rotterdam beating Supahsemmie 3-1 in grand finals

[@imsammy1343]

It feels so nice to see a Top Player play a relatively unused character at top level

[@thesmoovest]

Naw that Pit was ridiculous. Never seen Pit look like that before🔥🔥

[@WhoIsRah]

great aerials, dash attack kills, arrow gimp, recovery for days, down tilt combos, shield in the air(hello?), smash attacks are very good, cant challenge him off stage, side b cheese.. i mean..

[@dripfoe_3307]

LET'EM KNOW!!! TALK YO SH!T!

[@WhoIsRah]

@@dripfoe_3307you feel me?

[@dripfoe_3307]

@@WhoIsRah On God

[@deewillon]

I'm just diving into playing Pit and I'm now realizing that he is extremely underrated. Especially after watching Zackray utilize him to the fullest.

[@WhoIsRah]

@@deewillon didnt even mention his forward throw that kills

[@StanleySophana]

Larry in 2020: Hates that Pit/Dark Pit not having gimmicks Larry today: The Pits are now solo viable

[@mattshnoop]

Character development

[@Delightfully_Witchy]

Just because he's decent doesn't necessarily mean that he's got a real gimmick: Mario doesn't really have a gimmick either, and he's still good. (Unless being an all-rounder is considered a gimmick... Which it shouldn't by definition.)

[@William38827]

Pit is broken

[@christianokoye9491]

@@Delightfully_Witchy I think platform extensions that can lead to 0-deaths is a gimmick.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Nah, Zackray just carries

[@ShintaSmash]

Watching Zackray is like watching Fundies in action

[@nathanlevesque7812]

._.

[@deshawnjohnson3348]

Pit not a bad character at all people don’t use him because he don’t rely on gimmicks but if you take your time to experiment with the character he can cook for sure so I’m not surprise to see him do good in the hands of a top player

[@janswhatsupdoc]

Izaw said in his Steve video that no character can win with gimmicks alone Even characters like Steve or Kazuya need to have a good player piloting them

[@deshawnjohnson3348]

@@janswhatsupdoc yeah at top level play no you need more than just gimmicks but mid to high level play for sure you just need have decent neutral and fundamentals trust you’ll get a lot further than using a character that’s “honest” that’s my opinion tho

[@janswhatsupdoc]

@@deshawnjohnson3348 Nah bro what you said is pretty much facts, it’s why players like riddles and Acola do so much better then most kaz or Steve’s that don’t even get too 33rd at most tournaments Some characters are more privileged than others (no shit) but skill is the only thing that will carry you, a fact which will always elude most peeps

[@deshawnjohnson3348]

@@janswhatsupdoc yessir what I appreciate about top players is there creativity in what they do they don’t copy ppl styles or use characters as how must ppl consider the most optimal way to use them creativity takes you far hate when someone comes in tell me I using a character wrong when I’m trying to experiment and implement my own style and creativity

[@William38827]

@@janswhatsupdoc nah 😂 Steve and Kazuya carry so hard, literally broken and carried characters of curse all the player who play them are carried no matter what

[@sejinaldo]

No that I've seen Zackray's Pit, I can confidently say: It wasn't Pit that was mid, but us, the Pit players. Hope to see more Pit reps.

[@slade_pikachu]

Sucks that it had to take a top player who doesn't even play him to show how great Pit is, but you take what you can get

[@wailmoregd140]

I think this result definitely pushes Pit into high tier, even if on the lower end. I usually put characters with large amounts of unrecognized potential in upper mid, since they don’t have the results to support that potential, unless it’s Pikachu, since everyone knows why that character is stupidly powerful. Now that Pit actually has the result needed to show what he can do at the top level, I don’t think there’s anything really holding him back from crossing that high tier threshold. And they crazy thing is that Zackray’s Pit isn’t even optimized, imagine what could be if it was

[@davy-query2212]

He's making pit looking like a rush down with those down tilt 🤣

[@eyyy2271]

Pit should be a rush down

[@r3turn3dx6]

I think a lot this was matchup check. Zackray is damn good, and there aren't any pits that I can think of at this level. I saw a lot of people die to dash attack because they di'd it bad.

[@dripfoe_3307]

No, not match up checks. Nata the Pit player of JP. Zackary is just a better player.

[@slade_pikachu]

Solid high tier character with a syndrome of not having good enough mains to make people see his full potential. Which sucks, because of how good Pit is and it unfortunately had to take a top player who doesn't play him to make big enough waves for people to finally see

[@Spyder-Marth]

Yeah. Same thing happened with Corrin and even now people still think She's low mid or lower 😕

[@slade_pikachu]

@@Spyder-Marth what's even worse is that it happened with the same shit for byleth. maybe Leo did something for them for people to now think the character's broken, even though imo they're like high mid tier. maybe it's the privilege of being dlc, idk

[@shilohschwartz8671]

Pit may not know how to read, but Zackray sure can 😎

[@ParkAir33]

Dude if someone is good enough with the arrows like Zackray is, that move is BROKEN for edgeguarding

[@TaariqBethea]

It’s like jokers gun mixed with nikita

[@Phentem2]

Pit was always somewhere in Upper Mid Tier It’s just that other characters can do things better than him(Combos, Disjoints, Recovery, etc) I’m looking forward to this characters future however

[@xanander4693]

I honestly don’t think we’ll see much more of em. I love pit and I wish he was top 10.

[@wonder8899]

It's so great seeing a top player pick up your main. Hope he sticks with it!

[@lokks2130]

Low high tier. People don't even know what his actual issues are, they just throw around "honest" like it means something 😴

[@lokks2130]

dumb vague terms like "fundies" and "honest" have put the comm in a choke hold

[@hwanniggles187]

I do. As a Dark Pit main, his main issue is his disjoints suck. Upperdash/Electroshock Arm is near useless unless you go for a read. Guardian Orbitars can work against you because of the fact they shrink. Pit/Dark Pit arent bad characters but they lack a lot compared to the broken cast we have

[@lokks2130]

Hwan Niggles A disjoint is a disjoint. Pit's is weak at times, losing to some moves it shouldn't but it still gets the job done. It doesn't "suck". He doesn't need electroshock, it doesn't matter if it's bad. Just don't use it. It's the same thing as Byleth down b. His down b is just good. If it shrinks you're using it too much or for too long, lmao. That's your fault. Your comment was a *perfect* example of the SHIT I BE TALKIN BOUT. Keep em coming!

[@destroyahdestroyah9584]

Still midtier, he's the Mario of swordies but even Mario has better kill setups

[@_MNF__]

@@destroyahdestroyah9584 he just countered all your points, what you said doesn't have any nuance if you can't back it up with knowledge.

[@atticusv668]

Pit has almost everything in his kit that most of the best high tiers and even top tiers have: solid frame data, disjoints, dragdown setups, a great projectile, a great grab game with a combo throw that works for ages and kill throw, multiple jumps and a recovery that goes far and can be heavily mixed up. Its just that they all kinda suck in comparison lol

[@Joshaktheviking]

Nice to see my main in the hands of this guy. Great use of dairs it not easy.

[@eligibson3572]

8:51 smash Bros: edgeguarding Sora is soo hard!!! Zackray: YoU uNdErEsTiMaTe My PoWeR

[@SociaII]

7:30 steves gold f smash is frame 7 lol

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

I can see Joker using rebels guard and landing for free against Pit. The juggles and oppressive offstage arrows would be deadly against most characters, but don’t have much strength against high and top tiers with great disadvantage. Which is why it is baffling how Asimo won against this Pit with Ryu. On paper, this MU is buns.

[@bboyoldseoul]

Oh yeah Pits are honest......until you're off stage!!!!!lol

[@dripfoe_3307]

And when you try to keep them in disadvantage, guardian Orbiters out of everything lol.

[@gatolf2]

Zackray playing the super sayan pit

[@deshawnjohnson3348]

I hate when ppl use pit so defensively like his offense and combo game is nice got a homie who main pit and I swear he be moving with that character

[@eligibson3572]

Also why did i just realize that the Japanese VA for Pit sounds so much different than his American VA

[@clay2889]

Watching Zackrya's run with me got me to try him out and now he's my new main. So fun

[@bluyu]

Air shield funny

[@johanmeintjes9510]

Nice to see a top player give pit a shot

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

That’s not fair lol If Dair doesn’t spike, it sets up for bair , fair or even smash attacks.

[@bryankopkin6869]

Dude Zackray made Rizeasu look like a bot

[@dripfoe_3307]

LMFAOOOO

[@EsahmMalik]

idk how I haven't seen any one else say it, Pit is Swordie Shiek

[@HylianKirbo]

I'd say Mythra is.

[@wavesmanson4605]

FINALLY! The explanation as to why so many pits have been popping into my elite arena this past week cause holy fuck I played I kid you guys fucking not 8 different pit players in 1 2 hour sesh

[@Kart]

how could u be mad if ur under played character got picked up by a pro who ended up dominating, you'd be eating good with all the VODs to review lolol

[@slade_pikachu]

it's moreso because he's playing my character and not being a main of him instead of someone who actually plays the character and does good. the way he plays him is very basic and reactionary, along with defensive options to cover and weak spots he could have. Great that he's playing him, but kinda shits on the mental for not being a "true pit main"

[@eligibson3572]

As a Pit main, im so glad theres a top rep now

[@kyx5631]

4:40 A godlike Pit run? Or more like an... angel-like Pit run?

[@TheFeljoy]

Can anybody explain to me how he can move the arrow so much?

[@iTzJakedood]

Long time pit player since brawl, I never lab combos but I’ve always felt b reverse shield has some untapped potential for edge guarding. Maybe slingshot for momentum or something? Please reply if you’re actually good at this game and want to shit on my speculations :)

[@slade_pikachu]

Honestly, it probably could be good. The only reason why I say probably is because his hurtbox sticks out from the bottom when in the air, causing him to be more vulnerable to attacks. it's definitely great for blocking recoveries, but only if you know how to use it

[@janswhatsupdoc]

What a nice sight to see especially since Zackray had been playing cold lately

[@marlinmurrell620]

Gonna need that video on Asimo soon lol

[@brendanhogan2002]

Pit has the 2nd fastest Up Smash in the game, He's tied for the fastest F-Smash, 2nd fastest Down Smash. Pit's *Slowest* non-special move is Frame 12

[@wowoman3362]

I asked google lanma the best smash ultimate character and it said pit I told my brother that put his s tier and he didn’t believe me so then I proceed to 3-0 him and he says I’m spamming people just now found out that pit is the best if people could study neutral speed smash attacks and an unblockable side b then they would understand

[@Beannie7777]

Pit is amazing, but it really needs a good pilot. And a 1000 iq

[@6eyedbird]

some people in the comments talking like pit is top tier, even though zackray did good that doesn't mean everything, is byleth top tier because Leo did good with them? sure pit maybe was underrated but one good placement is not representative of overall strength

[@onimaru2933]

Smash community sleep on characters that they can't understand reason y teir list don't make sense for this game

[@fc7885]

my measure for a character being good is "I can get them to elite smash", and pit clears it. however, I don't want to play pit anymore, as it'll make me look like a zackray fan (I am a bit of a zackray fan tho)

[@christianrosario9639]

Who cares if they think you're a fan of a zackray or not,play whoever you find fun!

[@sham_noway]

earth is competing again btw mr lurr

[@ToucanBinks]

Got you with the like and comment bro

[@sethandrews401]

Pit is mid hes the most honest character Mans just has amazing fundies

[@darkyu3229]

I really see pit very basic, just pure neutral from zackray that's why he was a wolf main

[@eligibson3572]

5:24 Larry: Zackray continuing this oppression, bro… Feminists: 😡😡😡😡 Me:😂😂😂

[@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC]

Everything is a drag down.. this is gonna suck lol

[@rustypinetree]

great video

[@sqpenn]

Pit is lit?!

[@KareemZebib]

Mfw LarryLurr uploads

[@datunknownheatfan1412]

Nawh pits grab is mid, his dash and turn around grab are solid though

[@postboy2242]

Pits grab range is ASS

[@Mixa_Lv]

Being that consistent with the arrows is so hard because the hitbox is literally pea-sized.

[@nwz6084]

where can I see the original vod? I just wanna see Zackray's pit and skip the "content" of this video.

[@CarlJT]

Why did people think he sucked to begin with?

[@myoblivion420]

Legit nobody with a brain said that

[@CarlJT]

@@myoblivion420 must be brainless to ask a question. Good lord man

[@myoblivion420]

@@CarlJT My message wasn't even directed towards you. Taking anything that is said as an insult towards you.

[@slade_pikachu]

- "muh hitbox no work" - "can't kill when everyone else has something cheesy they can use" - "gimmick-less character who doesn't have anything to cheat with like everyone else" - "no good relevant match ups" - "his damage output isn't even that great" - "his recovery sucks" and other things that people have been coping with since 2018 and won't change

[@hambughrr8186]

Fun fact: Pit actually used to suck! Until the 8.0.0. update saved him, he had almost NOTHING going for him except for a solid NAir and arrows, since his damage output and kill power before v8.0.0. onwards was absolute trash. The devs tend to buff characters by making their damage and kill power better, and Pit was a rare example of a character that actually needed those type of buffs. He got exactly that, and now he's a decent character but nothing SUPER crazy. Probably true mid tier ATM.

[@fullmckuck1546]

Pit needs nerfed

[@dee6561]

Pit is another Palutena but with 4 jumps. How could he NOT be good? This reminds me of that Aaron tweet about Pit...

[@Lvl7susceptible]

Yooooo what

[@rpepero4774]

pits grab range actually sucks, i think zackray inputted a dash grab

[@palatonian9618]

Honestly who the hell is Zackray 😂😂😂

[@Anonymous-nq6xs]

worst commentary

[@hopeoxo]

hes mid bc most the cast outshine him in every aspect basically still good enough to play tho jus like any mid character

[@wonder8899]

It's so great seeing a top player pick up your main. Hope he sticks with it!