CrossFit Games Clean Event | Review

[@zacktelander]

Hey guys! So my slave-I mean editor, Alex accidentally placed Noah Ohlsen over either Gudmunson or Fraser (I don’t remember which one I was talking about even though I mentioned Fraser). Both gudmunson and Fraser have the best technique in my opinion. Also I am well aware of Fraser’s past as a weightlifter ;)

[@PScola716]

Yeah at 4:22 you called Noah Olsen, Mat Fraser

[@bgl4329]

Man the commentary on this years max snatch was just so incorrect

[@pmorse3653]

@@bgl4329 by the CF guys calling it live? Theyre nice people but listening to them is dreadful

[@bgl4329]

@@pmorse3653 exactly I couldn’t have said better myself it’s like the have no idea what they are talking about

[@peacebuf]

Hey zack, would you mind doing the weightlifting analysis of the female event? :D love your content

[@crossfitfan9739]

What’s next boys?

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

Ur mom

[@BankAlexander]

Lmao I thought you would miss this video.

[@tjcogger1974]

College Football players Clean reviews

[@jingsndthings]

@@tjcogger1974 that'd be cool

[@lutze5086]

Turn that tv brightness down brah

[@Sweet_Lew2]

This years comp will have a max snatch. Maybe worth looking at that too!

[@XXLRebel]

I won't if they all have form like this. Looks horrendous. I'd rather watch children weightlifters train.

[@totallyfake2852]

elbows go snap

[@aleclg]

Also the teens event 😊

[@kirby7475]

I have a feeling some of the clips will end up on some obscure gore website.

[@Precisa72]

@@totallyfake2852 yep, Brook wells

[@bretrogersweightlifting4008]

CrossFit fan probably gonna miss this video

[@simonsilva250]

haha

[@grapplerart6331]

Apparently not. Check pinned

[@aknzortuk4027]

Nope.

[@MH6M]

I'm a huge crossfit fan and I love Zacks videos. Helped me improve my technique a lot.

[@danbelltrainer]

He was largely positive about CrossFit

[@FranciscoLopez0]

Video 1 of asking Zack to react to Kyriakos Grizzly

[@getstrongby4038]

Oh no PLEASE NO!!!!

[@amneenja5720]

the video after that will be Zack snatching 300 kg cus he's so powered up by the sheer testosterone from just watching grizzly

[@pokekraze339]

I appreciate that you didn't just use this video to rip apart crossfitters or crossfit as a whole. You recognize that their training doesn't optimize the clean and you looked at the event for what it is. You also had some good things to say about them rather than purely criticisms.

[@tomgreen2058]

I was thinking exactly the same

[@usmanfarooq96]

he was an ex-crossfitter so hes aware of how crossfit works

[@Wimpymind]

his comment about cfit "getting their act together" halfway through was a bit of an odd comment though. Maybe he hasnt seen the handstand-walk-pushup segment.

[@ABCefgy]

@@Wimpymind hahahah when you pretend to be a sport

[@reillyploplis7457]

@@ABCefgy I don’t know how there is any pretending.. seems pretty legit.. not a lot of people can perform and recover like those athletes even though the weightlifting could use some work.

[@thchris]

i dont even do olympic lifts but i like this channel more and more..

[@sir0nion]

Same. I threw Oly lifts in the garbage, but I still find it interesting.

[@andonbrown385]

Same, I don't do them because honestly I'm scared

[@kirby7475]

@@sir0nion Word. The learning curve is such a bitch lmao. But that makes me appreciate watching professionals so much more.

[@pilot.wav_theory]

@@andonbrown385 im scared of shit like maxing out or going to failure on snatch or jerk, but i often do submaximal sets with simplified oly lifts like power clean power snatch push press etc

[@sir0nion]

@@pilot.wav_theory If I were to add anything back thats Oly-esque, it would be hang power clean. The reason I don't like Oly is because you can't rep out the lifts. You gotta drop the weight and set up again and I don't like that. At least with hang power clean you can pretty much get a rhythm and bang out reps. Also to the person who is scared of the lifts, you shouldn't be, its easy to bail out of both lifts.

[@XXLRebel]

"Mom, can we watch Tokyo 2020 weightlifting?" No, we have weightlifting at home. *weightlifting at home*

[@bonesh0ckerz]

Slay 'em !

[@Edthewebsurfer]

Mat was a legit weightlifter before crossfit, he was olympics bound before a pretty serious back injury.

[@Klepsterify]

As one who does CrossFit but loves the Oly lifts. I want so much more of this content! Thanks Zack. Top Tier Content

[@ambismagee3207]

The CF games are going to have a 1rm snatch event today. See ya tomorrow ;)

[@jnxmck]

today's a rest day for the individuals

[@georgeskhater487]

See u tomorrow

[@getstrongby4038]

Ahhh ill look forward to the train wrecks

[@bmichaelgroff]

As a CrossFitter who loves weightlifting, this was a really cool video to watch. Thanks! You should also do a reaction to the 2021 CrossFit Games mens max snatch event. Guilherme Malheiros crushed it.

[@charlesblackmore5425]

I’m a weightlifter first and a CrossFitter 2nd so this was fun to watch. Thank you for at minute 7 actually acknowledging that these guys are fried, this is event number 8 in the space of three days and I have seen at least a dozen weightlifter you tubers critiqueing the form of these cleans to the nth degree and they never mention the fact these guys are fucked before they even touch the bar. Rant-over, this was refreshing please do more, there’s plenty of content there, watch out for the ladies snatch event from this year though, poor Brooke Wells it’s too hard to watch.

[@anaussie213]

That's why crossfitt is stupid, why do highly technical lifts post fatigued like that?

[@oteroa2]

​@An Aussie it tests work capacity. That's the whole damn point. Why run a fast 400m if you're just going to do pull-ups after? Derp derp

[@moodypanda3199]

the women's division of this same event is super fun to watch too

[@daniellindegren-olympicwei7077]

No, it's not.

[@lutze5086]

Max Snatch when?

[@BernhardKohli]

@@daniellindegren-olympicwei7077 Why not? Amanda vs Tia showdown was epic!

[@Edthewebsurfer]

@@daniellindegren-olympicwei7077 Tia, who won the clean event (and the games) also has a gold from the commonwealth games in weighlifting, just FYI.

[@DespicableBunny]

*Me:* "That looked pretty good" *Zach:* _points out several miscues and flaws_ *Me:* "PATHETIC!"

[@NorthsideChamps16]

I’m a crossfitter but I love this channel because I wanna be a better lifter and I love the sport of weightlifting.

[@georgemelissinos9128]

Good for you for paying respect and working to improve, you don’t see that often

[@Rosaslav]

I am so glad you are making Crossfit related videos, Crossfit got me into the weightlifting and it always feels special to me, when I get the chance to grab the bar and play with it during Crossfit hour, so I am drawn to quality weightlifting content, I feel so much respect to you weightlifting guys and I am grateful for heaps of quality learning resources like your channel.

[@MatheusHoscheidt]

Thanks for such great content. I really appreciate you acknowledging that, since their training encompasses a wider range of skills, crossfit athletes are not expected to be compared with high-level weightlifting athletes. They do vary in skill though and it makes no sense to just paint all of them with the same "less than great" brush. Keep it up, Zack. Cheers from Brazil.

[@sym1546]

Multiply by 2.2 to convert from kg to pounds. So 140 kg times 2 is 280, and then you take that number and move the decimal once over to the left (280 becomes 28) and add it to the first number: 280 + 28 equals 308 pounds. You can do that in your head in seconds.

[@XXLRebel]

Or just not encourage an outdated inaccurate way of measuring by not using it.

[@sym1546]

@@XXLRebel Until the US decides to become sensible, some people will have to contend with this.

[@XXLRebel]

@@sym1546 Understandable

[@kylergrell3351]

i never thought about it like that…

[@vtpguitarist]

@@XXLRebel kgs are no more “accurate” than pounds. Lmao.

[@nickcustodi592]

I must actually be mentally dysfunctional. I just took a moment to appreciate the logo you have that you play at the beginning of every video. I think it’s clever and awesome lol

[@ColinJosefMusic]

Mat Fraser is an ex weightlifter. He came into CrossFit with over a 300lb snatch and a 330ish overhead squat. He was years ahead of the athletes in 2014 when he started

[@fredastaire6156]

"feet on bar, hands on bar..." Shout out to WuLift! ^_^

[@SCESG400]

Video 1 of Zack reacting to kyriakos Grizzly

[@calebross3790]

Are you channeling your inner wulift ? “Hands on bar, feet under bar” 😂

[@dab1750]

the absolute madlad actually did it

[@WtbgoldBlogspot]

Jesus. Fraser always astounds me at how consistently powerful he is. He doesn't always win a specific event but he's never not top 3. Thanks for the vid!

[@felipecoelho33]

There will be an 1 RM snatch this year. Looking forward for that analysis.

[@timgerber5563]

Loved it! Interesting to see what criticism you have while acknowledging that even though their technique may not be perfect, the entire event is fun to watch. For once a person that understands or respects that crossfits shortcomings are inherent in the sport by chosing not to specialise. However, I do see it a bit differently: a crossfitter needs solid weightlifting technique more than anything to win the games. Tia and Matt proved it.

[@Wirthless]

Now watch the women's clean event from 2019. Some very interesting lifts in there as well.

[@dondigo8240]

These consistent uploads are awesome, keep it up Zack!

[@apointtomake1517]

Best quad to knee insertion I have ever seen was Liao Hui in the 2010 Worlds at 69K, he cleaned 198 Kilos like it was just the bar.

[@ken71607]

With this video I just realized that I'm too far forward on the clean. Thanks Zack!

[@andykang5448]

Hi Zack, thanks for the review and hope to watch your reaction video for the Tokyo weightlifting soon.

[@ranpan2861]

I think Matt comes from a weightlifting background so that’s why his technique is so good

[@clap5]

Scott Panchik has no ACL's. He had both his knee destroyed in college football. It's amazing how someone with such a disability is able to contend at a elite level for 10 years at the games.

[@fightingtalk6253]

There are no elite level anything at these games

[@tomkillins4878]

@@fightingtalk6253 good comment, fruitcake

[@clap5]

@@fightingtalk6253 At what sport do you compete at a elite level?

[@chrisvanderwielen1530]

@@clap5 How about at any level? Probably just another keyboard warrior, peacocking from mom's basement.

[@AJ-jo2ub]

The concept of crossfit is great when correctly applied. The problem comes with the wrong "optimization" crossfitters do to some exercises. The CLEAREST example imo is the classic crossfitter's "pull-up", that's just doing the exercise for the sake of the movement, not for its benefits to the body.

[@0BuLLeT01]

Crossfitter's pull-ups as you describe them are not intended for the same purpose as your traditional strict pull-up. Crossfitters still practice strict pull-ups to build strength and endurance, but they're rarely programmed in competition as they are difficult to judge fairly. It is important that you remember that CrossFit is a sport as well as a methodology. Trust me when I tell you that kipping, and even butterfly pull-ups require strength, timing and endurance, and all three forms have different purposes.

[@musume7723]

The dude wearing the leader jersey at about the 4 min mark is Noah Olsen, not Mat Fraser

[@tomgreen2058]

So shoulders directly over the bar to start a clean but slightly further over for a snatch?

[@stevendamian2747]

Hey I don't mean this question in any sort of negative way, I'm an anadrol fiend myself, but I was wondering on the prevalence of PEDs in Crossfit as opposed to power lifting or bodybuilding. Are these guys on gear too or is this a more natty sport?

[@teiwaztim1482]

i powerlift in a CF gym. there are some strong men & women there. the aggression you mention with pulling is definitely under-emphasized. theres much to learn from them though; they are supremely athletic and do not quit. plus they do lots of power movements. my favorite thing? always doggos there.

[@Hirooshii1]

Imagine... its the olympics, and the best public event that zack can review about OLYMPIC LIFTING is a crossfit even that has a part of it being the lifts... Not ya know... the olympics. So sad

[@XXLRebel]

It's ridiculous. "Let's popuralize the sport by burrying it behind a massive paywall!" They are literally ruining every chance of new people getting into the sport. I have why this is happening.

[@darksky7507]

It's not free in your country to watch Olympics wtf?

[@iceklontje]

@@darksky7507 Here in the Netherlands they only show us the games/sports where a Dutch Olympian is competing for free. There's only 1 Dutch weightlifter, so we won't be seeing any weightlifting until Enzo Kuworge (109kg+) is competing, which is on the final day.

[@danielhenderson762]

@@darksky7507 it's not free in any country bro. You pay for the channels that broadcast them. And a lot of channels seems to choose to move everything over to their streaming app. Here, Eurosport only use two of their main channels, leaving the other 12 plus channels empty. All events are only available on their app. Which you pay for of course. And they bought the license in my country. No one else can broadcast the events on TV but them.

[@darksky7507]

@@danielhenderson762 In germany it is "free" because it's through public TV, which everyone has access to, this is funded by something like a tax, payed by all inhabitants of Germany. So for me, who doesn't have an income(because student) it is indeed free. Our public TV shows everything and streams everything, also you can re-watch everything for a few weeks online. I'm just surprised to learn that some countries don't cover it at all. Like I'm not even a big fan of Olympics, I just wanted to watch skateboarding and that's it, but its really new for me that there's tjsi much of a payall around the world.

[@mikesteffensen6017]

Come on Zack! You can for sure edit a small stick figure as you drew the torso, thigh and lower leg. Much respect, love the content!

[@jmac6973]

not a weightlifter or crossfitter, but love watching this stuff. once I hit certain powerlifting/strength goals, I will start weightlifting i think

[@jeffreyvanhouten1239]

Noah has some videos where he’s working on his lifts with California Strength.

[@el_museo.mp4]

omg Im loving this channel, im learning a lot! Im suuuch a newbie in weights, but I really want to learn as much as i can to prevent fucking mysel up. I am really thin and trying to get some muscle.

[@cheapR1]

5:52, I considered that the "catch-up" stance since they have have their bodies catch-up to the right position. Creates too large of a moment arm and wastes so much energy trying to catch-up to the right position for the 2nd pull.

[@samhenry5740]

Any videos (old or new) on increasing mobility in the shoulders? E.g stretches, exercises? Appreciate it!

[@Altigue]

Damn I’d love to get a critique from Tellie on my lifts. Mostly cause I’m curious as to how effective teaching myself has been.

[@Brummithedrunken]

Appreciate your video, you should do a vedeo on the max snatch event from the CF Games 2021. (not brook wells, ouch, get well soon!) but Gui Malheiros... Im far from an expert but his lifts look amazing. I would loooove to see a comparison between him and the rest of the field. Looks like from a different planet.

[@spencerervin6312]

Zack is becoming my favorite KZbinr and now these frequent uploads? Godamn

[@michaelcabello9664]

Any dislikes are fans of PuLifts

[@zacktelander]

handsonbarfeetonbar

[@JaYcRaKdAbEaSt]

Frazier was a weightlifter before he hurt himself then he switched to CrossFit, as stated in his interview with Rogan

[@SynapseCW]

I would love for you to do some iwf session reviews like sika strength did a few months back, a long form video with 10-15 lifters really let's the details come to life.

[@emmanuelrebolledo7092]

A heavy clean in normal sneakers is pretty cool

[@lachlanlayton8915]

Crossfit is like the jack of all trades. It's like the deadlifts / squats are almost 100kg shy of if they specifically focused

[@wilbrawn8864]

This is the video content the world needed after wulift. Thanks king 🙏🏼

[@wigpen]

Just finished watching Sika Strength talk about doping, thought this was an alleged non-doping type clean event, lol, not clean as in lifting ... I am an idiot.

[@stevenshock631]

Serious lack of "hands on the bar, feet under the bar".

[@Lickshotz1]

I think Fraser comes from Weightliftig, right!?

[@ukaserex]

I'm lucky to do a squat properly. I can't fathom doing a clean with solid technique. Would love to take one in-person lesson, though.

[@ExternusArmy]

I love the sport of weightlifting. But I don’t love how elitism is common in the sport

[@soulcheese7149]

Elitism is everywhere, unfortunately.

[@SimonSez83]

Exercise in futility did this 8 years ago

[@christopherclark279]

“Bad form is the norm” 😂😂😂😂

[@bigbossgreek]

People crap on crossfit a lot, but it will increase overall strength, aerobic and anaerobic capacities, flexibility, athleticism, etc. Its not a bad way to go. Pair it with something else, such as martial arts, or throw in a couple bodybuilding or powerlifting days or weightlifting sessions, and it's good

[@franciscodiaz3028]

It would be fun to see a live stream session of the olympics.

[@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk]

Not sure about the heel , I guess that apply to mortals, freaking zhiyong get to his heels right before extension, but I got the point for the rest of us are rules we need to follow

[@theminion8665]

Can you do one video for the snatch event this year as well?

[@sebulbathx]

I get that Crossfit competitors has to train a variety of things but at the same time I still expect great technique in those lifts since they are a part of the competition. And they are professionals also and I've seen lifts in my gym that looked better than theirs. That they won't be near a weightlifter in weight is understandable but the technique and form could be great anyway, imo.

[@richardsanchez9190]

I think Matt Fraser was in the Junior Olympics so he has a background in weightlifting I believe Right after I said this you said it

[@ChumblesMumbles]

Fraser's around 195 (according to him) pounds which is 88.5 kilos, so put him in the 89kg weight class at the 2019 world championships and he's in the same group as Toshiki Yamamoto. A 380 pound clean is 172.4 kilos, with no jerk. Toshiki put up 208kg to win the gold in the C&J in 2019, and you know he can clean more.

[@tjcogger1974]

Well he's not an Olympic lifter so....

[@kanisaeed3349]

Can you do the same for the ladies clean even? :)

[@mountmi]

Fraser is the GOAT. He was an Olympic weight lifter which explains his form.

[@INDAMOMENTFilms]

Jim hopper's weightlifting fit cousin is back

[@Haruka_Power]

FINALLY!!! Been waiting for this 🙏

[@xalian17]

It heresy to say -- but damn its crazy how much explosiveness comes from genetics. These guys would excel, or at least be well above average, at any explosive sport.

[@ozzythegreat88]

do a video where you try crossfit with top tier crossfit champions, many olympic weight lifters are doing it

[@nekahuf]

Great vídeo!!! Now you should react to the 2021 SNATCH EVENT at Nobull CrossFit games

[@ItsRealVlogs]

Review the 2021 Snatch event from last weekend 😉

[@LlamasAreBest]

Fraser was a weightlifter. There's a lot of hate for CF, and rightfully so in a lot of the cases, but the sport has grown tremendously over the past few years, and with that, the top athletes have become considerably better at everything, including weightlifting.

[@agsfsafasfsa6699]

Can we also get an analysis of the women's clean event? :)

[@thejosef225]

GREAT video Zack! Glad I stumbled on this on reddit today. Ha.

[@JaredTG.]

I would say that crossfit fan should re-evaluate his hobbies, but fuck it man I admire his persistence.

[@plantybara]

ZT breaking down crossfit athletes > Wu Lifts breaking down crossfit athletes

[@luisandresamarolinan1225]

Really good instructive video, respectful and enjoyable.

[@jamescassady7979]

That was wonderful to watch and I liked the analysis. Thank you

[@bpisan]

Wonder if you’re aware of Fraser’s history in Olympic weightlifting. He was training to compete in the olympics until a back injury prior to CrossFit.

[@dojjidi]

"Mat Fraser's already been there, done that," sounds like he might be. Thats how I took it, anyway.

[@a1ace1991]

Can you look at the ladies from the same year

[@dready1221]

Doesn’t panchik use the same start as klokov?

[@Perezep101]

Can you make a video regarding cleaning from the hip and cleaning from high thigh

[@ronnieplumper6047]

Thanks tellie, knowledge bombs getting dropped all over the shop

[@taunokekkonen5733]

Let's remember, the top athletes are good at cleans DESPITE doing another sport (crossfit), not BECAUSE of it.

[@TIKOMIX]

They clean off of the hips because they have long torsos and short arms relatively.

[@tombrockhoff3081]

Zack, You could become a CrossFitter and make videos about that

[@Asmodea01]

He actually did some CF on the side - at his own pace, that is

[@hamletshero]

I thought he started out as a crossfitter?

[@iclimbtrees8981]

If someone were to be interested in Olympic lifting but only had metal plates would that be possible?

[@hamletshero]

Sure just that you probably don’t want to drop that bar 😂

[@scottpearson9186]

Chad Telander

[@jpg7616]

10:19 your editor didn’t watch the full snatch video 😄

[@adamb5142]

Well this had to be an instant like, cause i know what's coming

[@rutatutut]

Digging the regular videos.

[@catboy7952]

CatBoy here--- what is up with 4:20 @Zack Telander? Idnt that Noah Ohlsen (weightlifter here)

[@davidhickey8613]

2021 games just released online why we looking at 2019?

[@slothbin]

"Crossfitters don't usually look like weightlifters when they lift" is so accurate. Alternatively, there is something distinctly unique in the way a weightlifter lifts. I think it's that a miss with a weightlifter is almost always technique related, rather than strength related (as in a technical mistake, not lack of technique). Whereas for a crossfitter, it's both lack of technique and strength. It's always a grind - even their makes.

[@JFat5158]

Yeah weight related is if theyre going for a crazy PR to contend for a medal, like Sarah Davies or CJ cummings did in their sessions haha

[@slothbin]

@@JFat5158 yes but almost always they have made that clean in training before