Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun Review | Should You Play It Today?

[@triplehelix3207]

of all the games, Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 are most deserving and in need of a remaster

[@Zade_95]

I would be on that in a heartbeat!

[@mwperk02]

stop trying to get me all hard bro. but seriously some HD remasterings of ra2 and Tib sun would be great for the community. EA will probably charge us 60 dollers for it and then lock all the units and structures behind lootboxes but it might just still be worth it.

[@dontblameme9468]

If the original C&C and Red alert remasters sell enough we might see remasters of later games.

[@Gruntvc]

Would love that, but current EA is literally evil.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

@@dontblameme9468 any idea when the Tiberian dawn remaster will be?

[@AlexFoo89]

Should u play in 2019? Short answer : yes Long answer : YYYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

[@seansy1987]

Do you play?

[@dontblameme9468]

Rise up *Warriors of Nod!* The time has come to destroy *EA!* -GDI- *ONE VISION ONE PURPOSE!*

[@kasPWI]

Don't Blame Me Peace through Power

[@jackp3806]

Kane lives in death!

[@johnivanoplimo5172]

Peace through Power! Peace through Power! Peace through POWER!!!

[@mercenarygundam1487]

TECHNOLOGY OF PEACE!!!

[@frankmcdonald6841]

We got the rockets!!

[@finegamingconnoisseur]

What I loved about Tiberian Sun was the variety of Tiberium-based wildlife that infested Earth at that time period. There was like a whole new ecosystem that took over the original Earth flora and fauna, and combined with the rather atmospheric lighting and weather effects it was quite a unique C&C game in the series. I’m kind of wanting to load it up and play it again after watching this video. Thanks man, keep up the good work. 👍

[@KertaDrake]

The lack of the new ecosystem was the main bad point for Tiberium Wars to me... It felt like they abandoned an amazing setting. Of course, they did some beautiful stuff with the crystalline wasteland motif, but still... Tiberium Fiends were good doggos.

[@finegamingconnoisseur]

@@KertaDrake Yeah I agree, it's a pity they didn't bring the ecosystem back in Tiberium Wars. It would've looked awesome in the 3D engine. One thing they did pretty well was the Tiberium growing in detail, seeing the crystal veins extend outwards and pods begin to form and get larger. 🙂

[@KertaDrake]

@@finegamingconnoisseur And they did at least leave little touches here and there to show they cared, like the dead blossom trees and ruined structures from prior wars left in some of the maps.

[@Nukestarmaster]

I'll be honest, when I played it, I completely missed that it was taking place on Earth, I thought it was on some alien planet.

[@finegamingconnoisseur]

@@Nukestarmaster EA probably thought it was way too over the top, and decided to dial it down to just the good old green and blue crystals in C&C3. But yeah, TS did it best in making the Earth look far more alien than all the other games in the series.

[@Montegoraon]

20 years later, and Kane's reveal in the Nod campaign still gives me chills every single time.

[@Zade_95]

Actually 10/10

[@Tismdylan]

I know this isn the correct comment but I need help Tiberian sun won't work I got a patch just so I can get into the menu but it always crashes about 3 missions in or becomes a pixelated mess how do I fix it

[@nicholasreed631]

​@@TismdylanGoogle tiberian sun fan remaster! Download that its free and has online!

[@greenscreamstudios5581]

​@@Tismdylan I know this is over a year later, but if you google "tiberian sun installer" you'll come across an installer that has most of the fixes you need and moves all the movies files into the installation as well

[@ancientgamer3645]

Unfortunately, these great games were not part of my youth. I was already past 40 and had been gaming since the early 70s. But they still were worth playing then AND now. Great work Zade!

[@bigmclargehuge8219]

Man, this game was a massive part of my childhood and as much as I love it, it kicks my ass today. The campaigns I can handle, but the skirmishes are too hard for me. I'm bad. Can't wait to watch the video!

[@Zade_95]

That's awesome dude! Hope you enjoy it :)

[@semimealways8289]

This game has hard campaign as far of hard difficulty. Just played Nod campaign on hard and i played every mission. Now i am in GDI mission 8. Skirmishes indeed are hard, you should slow the gamespeed. You learn better that way because you can think little bit longer. Worth mentioning also is that AI cheats in skirmishes. AI knows the whole map without radar and AI knows where your troops are. AI also has massive amount of funds compared to player. No matter if i destroy their harvesters, AI has funds to buy 10 new refinerys and same time AI build buildings and train more troops. There is unofficial patch to fix this AI cheating. AI doesn't have like 25,000 in start (CnCnet forums somebody told that TS/FS AI have 25,000 in start when you have 10,000). You should patch that if you have trouble to beat AI in hard difficulty. Enjoy your gaming sessions and remember, ENJOY! :)

[@blackorder7561]

Same mate its great game i know populose the beginning is also one of my 1st rts games iknow aoe1 is my 1st and aoe2 my 2nd and pop 3d with cnc TS and RA2 those where my 1st childhood games still play them 2 im now 21 on 22feb i will be 22 but ya i got 9 fam members and im nummer 6 so ya its great that ya brothers are gamers they show ya those games as ya are young so ya its great game

[@TiberianSunAdventures]

Don't be scared to come play online at cncnet.

[@eburit]

dont listen to him beople. If nobody knows you will be banned from every room

[@tankolad]

@@eburit Yep. The community there is terrible.

[@vatz1151]

With some of your own friends... It's not too fun to play against the randoms there

[@Terradyn86]

uh, I tried. I was banned and there is no space for noobs(like people here were not noobs at the beginning)... people fight from the start with soldiers, rocket soldiers etc... not fun at all and all those new maps which only skilled players know... as I said not fun at all

[@Myself_is_Me]

Yea, sadly I’m in agreement also and I’ve played there a bunch. It’s really bad for noobs.

[@ells101]

You forgot to mention one amazing technical feat in this game, there's no unit cap! its quite hard to push the game to drop in fps On a sidenote; cncnet online! is really the way to play, I jumped into an online game in about 30 seconds!

[@Zade_95]

True that! Didn't even realize haha. Yeah It's awesome right! Was legitimately surprised with how easy it was

[@ShadowHunter120]

Yet it barely handled air units, couldn't deal with harpy rotors and most of the orca transports that weren't the carryall.

[@NiksAanDeWashand]

Try The Cyborgs are Coming in Firestorm and don't destroy the crematorium. Keep that up for a while and see the framerate drop.... Then, when you do destroy the crematorium, be ready to be swamped by hundreds to thousands of cyborgs. Damn, so much fun!

[@feartheghus]

Look at this madman just sending entire infantry battalions through Tiberium fields.

[@admontblanc]

First C&C memorable Kain introduction: *gunshot in the head "I'm Kain" Can't have good shit like this nowadays.

[@nolanwilson5652]

Power shifts faster than most people think

[@guyfromdubai]

@@nolanwilson5652 "Yeees..."

[@user-yo8ab1ys9e]

Kane*

[@xenosmoke8915]

I’ll never forget that cutscene!

[@voidfuldepth1027]

I put a massive amount of hours into Tiberian sun/firestorm back in the day smiling the whole time I wouldn't trade that time for anything

[@Suvisak]

I played it like a sims game. My base wall/ turret ratio needed to be perfect and needed to have concrete everywhere.

[@adamixa5801]

same, I'm just spending a lots of time playing yuri when I was a kid.

[@engitect]

@@Suvisak I always built my structures on a pavement. So I didn't have to care about those Ion Cannon pits

[@KReeMMeeNAL]

@@Suvisak right, like actually building a impenetrable fortress 🙌🏻

[@derharlekin5205]

What still stands out for me is, despite the overall B-Movie like presentation, is the excellent atmosphere. The excellent soundtrack, the really interestign worldbuilding, the leveldesign, which wase especially in the early campaign missions and the addon done with love to details, and even the aged graphics transport a really gloomy feel, which I love!

[@Zade_95]

Yeah I agree - atmosphere is really well done.

[@elitedonger546]

I remember sneaking out of my room when I was 9 to play this on my brothers pc. God those were the days

[@Zade_95]

Man, that's a great memory to have. It's ones like those that you really remember :D

[@Zensiji]

"Over two dickheads ago!" Great video, man! Tiberian Sun was an absolute masterpiece, especially for it's time!

[@da_BemBem]

I',m glad I'm not the only one who kept hearing that.

[@Zensiji]

@@da_BemBem I thought I was here too late for anyone else to notice and confide xD. I subscribed after this video, good on ya' mate, you cheeky bastard you.

[@Zade_95]

Cheers! And yes, welcome to New Zealand - I'll be your guide!

[@Zensiji]

@@Zade_95 I'd come any day for kicks like that xD!

[@paulogaviola5522]

laughed too much to this

[@feelx92ger]

Kucan and Klepacki were a dream team. Also an interesting note: EA wanted the soundtrack of TS to sound distinctively more melody-focused and less complex in terms of rhythm, so they asked (or dictated?) Westwood to work with Jarrid Mendelson (for example Pharotek, Lone Trooper, Scouting, The Defense) and you can hear that very easily. Heck, Klepacki even re-wrote some of the original pieces for the Twisted Insurrection mod, while the community (re-)made the majority of tracks.

[@TwistedInsurrectionOfficial]

An excellent review of an RTS classic, also thanks for the shoutout.

[@dontblameme9468]

A video about Tib sun in 2019 without mentioning you guys? BLASPHEMY! All of you are awesome, doing -Kane's- God's work for the whole community. Weswood -Kane- lives in mods!

[@Zade_95]

Cheers! And no worries, great work on the mod!

[@Zade_95]

Yeah I'd be hearing about it if I didn't mention them!

[@TheFranssiBrother]

10:55 *HOW DARE YOU GIVE ANY SORT OF SPOTLIGHT TO C&C 4*

[@Zade_95]

🤐

[@dontblameme9468]

BURN THE HERETIC. IN THE NAME OF WESTWOOD! Just joking acceptence is the first step of healing...

[@mercenarygundam1487]

Could be worse, could have been Command and Conquer Rivals.

[@Adrian-po8sx]

@@Zade_95hmm tho i like more "realistic" rts games like general well its because of the way it handles it, too much "sci-fi" tech for the factions some factions are overpowered and not balanced etc... But still like your opinion

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

@@Adrian-po8sx I actually kind of thought cnc 3 had a good mix of sci-fi and more grounded elements to the units.

[@eier3252]

Regarding the soundtrack, you're absolutely right. I haven't played this game for almost 10 years and exactly know whar I'm listening to, and wanting to play it again.

[@dasneuge9704]

I remember getting this game in an RTS bundle for a Christmas present back in the day. This game and Celtoc Kings were the only two games out of the bundle I played the most. Such great times.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

in regards to Westwood, they are in a new studio called Petroglyph, which 8-bit armies, Grey Goo, Mytheon and other good stuff.

[@Nyerguds]

"they are" is a bit of an exaggeration. There are only like 3 or 4 people from the old team still working there.

[@Zade_95]

My fav Petroglyph game was their first - Star Wars Empire at War. Never tried the others, keen to see how they handle the C&C remakes though!

[@ugiustuskeiserus8066]

And now Petroglyph is working on the C&C remastered for Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert

[@dontblameme9468]

@@ugiustuskeiserus8066 I hope they don't rush them because of some greedy manager upstairs though, We don't need another C&C 4. They seem passionate enough on the Reddit, opening polls, asking community's advice etc.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

Has there been info on what type of graphical style they will use for the remakes? Will it be 3d models, or a similar approach like starcraft remastered where it's essentially the 2d style upgraded? I'm excited either way though lol.

[@chadaustin8914]

I still have the command and Conquer Tiberian Sun game and every so often I go back and play it it's great game I wish they had games like that today

[@inquisitordragon6827]

Play C&C tiberian Sun in 2019? I never stopped playing. Also Peace through Power!!!!

[@KabutoRyu]

This game...i love so much that day, so tiny and detailed, and so much fun, thankyou westwood for bringing this memorable game. And we’re always love you westwood, and my first RTS game comes from your creations.

[@dontblameme9468]

Westwood lives in death!

[@0pticalstatic832]

Tiberian Sun was one of my favorite C&C games! I would love to go back and play this game.

[@Zade_95]

You should! It's easy!!

[@0pticalstatic832]

@@Zade_95I have a bunch of them on Steam, but they are all the "newer" ones. I want to go back and play the OG C&C, Tiberian Sun, C&C Red Alert. Those are the ones I grew up playing. I found your link for the game, I am going to give that a try! Thanks buddy!

[@Zade_95]

Let me know what you think sometime :)

[@tiberiumresurrection6214]

Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun has one of the best communities, I have ever seen. This alongside with many mods creates perfect game if you do not care about graphics. Sadly, EA f***** up franchise. Hopefully upcoming remaster will be at least decent.

[@foxwatcher8568]

Who cares about graphics when you have STYLE, right? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@tiberiumresurrection6214]

@@foxwatcher8568 Correct!

[@arandomperson4709]

I agree with you that EA destroyed C&C....But only with ......That game and Rivals....other than that I think C&C 3 and Kane's Wrath were very good....at least that is my opinion....

[@tiberiumresurrection6214]

@@arandomperson4709 I agree. I enjoyed c&c 3 + KW, but next games such as Red Alert 3 already sucked...

[@arandomperson4709]

@@tiberiumresurrection6214 So true...

[@JamesPimlott]

I went back and played the Twisted Insurrection mod a year or so ago, it's great.

[@alexcat6480]

Playing through twisted insurrection's GDI gampain was painful. It was the same tired progression of old: "fortify to stop harassment"; "snipe and fortify your way to the other end of the map"; "spend tons of resources sniping artillery and key pieces in the enemy's perfect defence grid"; "slowly push back the shroud so you can see what you are doing". Couldn't even bring myself to touch the Nod campaign.

[@dontblameme9468]

They even got Frank himself to do some of the OST.

[@yodaco]

It's good. But indeed campaign is a little painful. None the less. Much appreciated effort. And for that they deserve a cookie

[@OgaKunieda]

- We get the rocket! - Yes sir? Yes sir! - Affirmative - Unit lost - Attack - Unit lost - Building - New costruction option - Unit lost - Our base under attack - Unit lost - Awaiting order - Scan machine - No problem - Unit lost

[@deathskeybladez2515]

Target Acquired.

[@TheSpatzmann]

Flaws? FLAWS?! This was an revolution for the RTS genre with high quality graphics, lightning and groundbreaking cutscenes! I like 2D graphics, they are timeless. Tiberian Sun is beautiful. The improved cnc-net edition is pure gold!

[@Zade_95]

Even the best games have flaws! But usually, we look over them because of the quality of everything else!

[@kaleeshguy]

I only recently completed Tiberium sun and its expansion for the first time. Love its world and campy atmosphere. It only made more of a C&C fan than I already was.

[@SidMajors]

What I loved about Tib Sun was the gloomy sci-fi ish theme. But still relatable somewhat. While I love Tib Wars, it's a bit too sci-fi for me. Fingers crossed for me that they will remaster this one as well. Oh and I definitely agree with you on the music. The song 'Mutants' I actually still listen to sometimes.

[@Zade_95]

Atmosphere and setting of TS was just *chef's kiss*

[@weezerblink194]

This was the first rts I ever played. It has particle effects and as far as graphics go, it was amazing back when it released. I remembwr how my computer would lag later on when the matches got heated. I loved this game.

[@laurenced2916]

Loved the review. The soundtrack to this game was amazing too. It set the atmosphere perfectly and kept each misson tense. I even downloaded it from itunes.

[@Zade_95]

Cheers! Nice! It slaps for sure

[@rubberjoe01]

Oh how I love the ost of this game. Interestingly the recent my friend is pedro has some similar tunes

[@M6nst6r6]

Tiberian Sun is the best in C&C series by far! Red Alert 2 is close second.

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

Preach.

[@hvr1874]

The best C&C game is the first one that got you hooked.

[@shaoweing6327]

couldnt agree more.

[@semimealways8289]

@@hvr1874 Not in my case. TD/RA1 was first ones for me. Don't remember which i played first because i got both at the same time. They are both great games, masterpieces i would say and i still love to play them but my absolute number ones is Tiberian Sun + Firestorm and Red Alert 2 + Yuri's Revenge. I started playing both if them maybe 2 weeks ago after about 13 years brake and _BOTH OF THEM IS A FUCKING MASTERPIECE_ Tiberian Sun is aged very well in my opinion like Red Alert 2! I know there is remake coming for Tiberian Dawn and original Red Alert but Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 deserves remake too!

[@IBeGinger213]

I recently started playing Mental Omega, a Yuri's Revenge mod that completely revamps the game, and WOW is it hard. The easiest difficulty is at least harder than the highest difficulty in the vanilla game. Despite that, it's awesome!

[@mwperk02]

I do believe for me atleast a good chunk of it is just not knowing what shit does anymore. I still don't even know what a tenth of Foehns shit does.

[@MIH1230]

i downloaded the Twisted Insurrection some days ago, and i CANT stop playing at least one skirmish a day, brings back all those memories back from tiberian dawn and sun... thanks for the video Zade !!! keep going!!

[@dontblameme9468]

Nice. Westwood lives in mods!

[@Zade_95]

Nice man! Enjoy - and thanks for watching!

[@Perl88]

"In the name of Kane! Kane lives in death! In the name of Kane! Kane lives in death! In the name of Kane! Kane lives in death! KANE LIVES!" *Goosebumps* One of my favourite scenes in the whole C&C franchise.

[@dontblameme9468]

Agreed. Peace through Power!

[@jacob8633]

"Rule of thumb Hassan. You can't kill the Messiah."

[@NadaMimic]

Happy 25th, Tiberian Sun. Thanks for the vid, Zade.

[@Zade_95]

Thanks for watching brother

[@coatofarms4439]

Why the hate on Generals it’s a great game (especially zero hour)

[@Zade_95]

No hate, just didn't find it super appealing today as someone who'd never played it before. Watch my video on it for a more detailed explanation!

[@BuleTheKing14]

@@Zade_95 Maybe try Renegade X. It is basically a remaster made by a small modding community.

[@dontblameme9468]

Agreed, Generals is a great game. -Can I have some shoes?-

[@silversolver7809]

@@BuleTheKing14 Thanks for that, looks great. It's a mod of Renegade FPS though, not the RTSs.

[@BuleTheKing14]

@@silversolver7809 My bad, I thought I saw renegade being mentioned lol.

[@ebolalegion]

Thanks for the thorough video review. I installed the game recently and it was interesting to learn more about CNC's storied history.

[@Zade_95]

My pleasure - thank you for watching!

[@FelineSublime]

Tiberian Sun was the first PC game I got at release with my own money in August 1999, a couple weeks after my birthday. My brother and I put years into playing it and even worked with the modding community on it and RA2/YR through high school. Twisted Insurrection is absolutely worth the download, but expect a steep learning curve and much less forgiving AI compared to vanilla TS/Firestorm. The Twisted Dawn game mode is an incredible love letter to the original C&C for longtime fans. Also check out Shattered Paradise on PPM if you have OpenRA. They took the existing TS assets that have been stuck in development hell for years on OpenRA and made a playable mod out of it.

[@Zade_95]

That's awesome man. I will, thanks!

[@Knihti1]

For all C&C games (not Generals), TS's story is unique that you watch cutscenes where GDI/Nod Commander is doing stuff, where in others C&C games you are "the commander" and characters are talking to you. One scene (in Nod Intro) is 'nod' (pun not intented) to that where Oxanna say "Dead and back commander, dead and back" to Slavik.

[@elk3909]

the visceroid levels make the game so much fun as thay attack anyone and there are 5000 of them so it really is an apocalypse. you have to make your base surrounded by walls fast before they get to you and hope they destroy the enemy first. the hardest challange it to destroy them before they destroy the enemy.

[@joeschmoe3665]

I loved the atmosphere and dystopic future setting and all the new tech units and weapons that provided!!

[@cyde79]

Would love to see you cover Command & Conquer: Renegade !

[@Zade_95]

I'll definitely be covering it at some point :)

[@joemunk]

That was one of the all time best ever fps games. 10/10 for sure!!

[@yourallygod8261]

Great game i wish it had more to it :y

[@johnjohnnston3498]

@@Zade_95 When you do cover Renegade, this is an absolute must, the focus has to be on the Multiplayer!! That is what made Renegade the best game in the history of PC gaming, as 1NMOT1ION pretty much mentioned. The game mode was absolutely perfectly put together for a 1st/3rd person shooter.

[@Terradyn86]

@@Zade_95 dont forget on Renegade X

[@ezza2x899]

I can still remember to this day how hyped myself, my brother & dad were for the release of Tiberius sun. We had the old pc magazines with previews etc, then living in a small town at the time we managed to pre order from a pc store and on release day heading over at opening time to pick it up. Good memories!

[@Phantomfile]

Guys CnC tiberuim wars, kanes wrath and red alert 3 are now backwards compatible on xbox one!! Having a blast playing all 3!!

[@yourallygod8261]

Come to pc on steam tiberium wars and kanes wrath on steam :y with cnc.net being available as online features

[@Zade_95]

Enjoy!

[@Huntware023]

@@yourallygod8261 it's better to get the entire collection from Origin! Sometimes it's less than 10 USD for all CnC games, instead of the same price por just one of them on Steam.

[@0rnery0verwatch]

For me, I think one of the things that keeps me coming back to this title (as well as Red Alert 2) is the fact that it seems like a pure RTS experience for me. When I play a game like SC2, even in the campaign, there is such a dizzying number of options/abilities for each unit that each match ends up feeling like a heart attack. With Westwood games I can kick back and have a relaxing, yet still very enjoyable and engaging, RTS experience and I haven't played any other RTS's that come close to duplicating that.

[@stormweaver2535]

It was not just the impression of a 3D landscape. I remember parking artilary to wither standard enemy waves...and several hours in they had literally made the land lower in the middle. Units had to now walk down a steep valley and up another and the disk throwers were going nuts. Like a pyrimid hole.

[@Zade_95]

That's awesome!

[@thedarkflameknight7942]

Loved your video. These are the games that got me into game develooment. My first CandC was N64 Command and Conquer. Loved this series so much.

[@Zade_95]

Thanks! That's awesome, hope it's all going well for you!

[@christianspindler6132]

Short Answer: Yes Long Answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[@ashkuigp]

is that even a question?

[@hjf3022]

Tiberium sun was the only C&C game I didn't play the hell out of while it was still fresh. I remember a really great atmosphere and interesting units, let down by some frustrating mechanics such as dynamic terrain allowing craters to permanently mess up your base, and hunter seekers that would incessantly cause craters in your base.

[@Ash-iu7bu]

The sacrifice of the many is but pleasure of the few -cabal the best ai Tiberian sun will never die in my heart

[@dontblameme9468]

Slavik : ''Define favorable outcome CABAL.'' CABAL : ''They all die.'' Slavik : ''That'll do.'' ...and Slavik the best -husbando- commander.

[@Ash-iu7bu]

@@dontblameme9468 yes definitely the favorable outcome

[@Ash-iu7bu]

seems the best outcome

[@danihussain2996]

Thanks for making this amazing video I grew up playing this game when I was a teenager, really loved it still it is a great game to play. Really appreciate your work and keep up the great work.

[@Zade_95]

Hey my pleasure - thank you for watching!

[@stephanevenepoel7746]

I installed my old cd of "C&C the first decade" about 2 months ago, sweet, spend hours on it🤩

[@Zade_95]

Nice going!

[@sigmasuniverse]

Tib Sun,AoE and Warcraft 3 were my very first RTS Games

[@Zade_95]

Woah - I'm nearly exactly the same! Add Stronghold :D

[@Michael12111983]

Those old games usuallly came with very exzensive and detailed manuals... I still remember reading those... It felt like an initiation and I really enjoyed studying them

[@Zade_95]

Yeah me too! I read my manuals for SW: Galactic Battlegrounds and Impossible Creatures for than a few times. I wonder if you can find them digitally....

[@soldiersvejk2053]

Oh the good old memories！20 years later I still remember the sound tracks.

[@CM-bk8lo]

The introduction of unit veterancy made you care about those first few grunts who survived early game battle

[@Zade_95]

Yeah I agree, I just wish it was more pronounced to make it easier to see who had it, and what it did. In Generals and CNC3 they did it well!

[@chemicalman53]

I really appreciate your reflection on this game friend. The one thing you did not mention in why it is so popular is because it was *very* easy to mod. There was even a third party mod editor which really was unique and acted as the entry to many people to learn how to mod. The skills I learned just from messing around as a child have helped me learn programming as a whole and served as a very great entry tool to learn the art.

[@Zade_95]

And I wish I did! That's super cool. Thanks for watching :)

[@sergiovargas8620]

This game and Little big Adventure, made my childhood Amazing

[@J.J.Jameson_of_Daily_Bugle]

Yeah, you don't have tooltips telling you what each unit or building does, however this is because you were expected to play campaign, where they gradually introduce all the new tech with each mission, and there's introduction for each, kinda like they did in later games (Red Alert 1-2 for example). However I do understand how it would be confusing and overwhelming for people who just try it for the first time now, but back then we were kinda use to this, it was fairly common in every RTS of the time, because campaign basically serves as glorified tutorial to teach you how to play the game. I heard there's total conversion mod for C&C3 where they rebuilt Tib Sun missions and storyline?

[@s1lentscope801]

I thought this as I watched hehe

[@kyur3813]

When you talked about the game's graphics, I was expecting you would mention the big disappointment that reviewers and gamers had at that time here, as the pre-release screenshots of the game were manipulated, making the game look better than it actually was. Westwood took a big backlash for that back then, which is more than understandable. I bought the game on release day and it indeed resulted in a soured first impression. I remember how a game magazine did a screenshot analysis back then, pointing out every single detail which was just manipulated eye candy that did not really exist in the game. Whenever gamers have a discussion about broken promises by developers, Tiberian Sun is very likely to be mentioned. I'm not saying this to bash fans of the game or your video, which is indeed great and in-depth, but because it's so detailed, I was surprised to not see this big controversy being mentioned. :)

[@Jace-xw3ly]

"Whenever gamers have a discussion about broken promises by developers, Tiberian Sun is very likely to be mentioned." Funny, Tib Sun was my first C&C game, got it a few months after release...and in all that time until now, never heard of this nothingburger of a "controversy".

[@kyur3813]

@@Jace-xw3ly Probably because it was your first C&C. The first 2 C&C games were smash hits and the 3rd game was talked about and hyped with screenshots in magazines for a long time while being delayed again and again, which created even more anticipation. On which the game could not deliver. It's great that you had fun with the game, but a lot of people who played and enjoyed the first two were disappointed. I bought it on release day and regretted. There's a reason why C&C Remastered focussed on the first 2 games and was welcomed by players with open arms, as these are the games most people think of when they hear "C&C". Having said that, it's great that you had fun with the 3rd and nobody wants to or can take that fun and fond memories of yours with that game way.

[@snoopiiii]

This review pretty much explains why I keep replaying it atleast once a year. Nice review!

[@Zade_95]

Cheers! Have fun!

[@Gui.Vieira_]

I remember playing it back in the day in an old Pentium. Good times... The soundtrack for this game is amazing.

[@Zade_95]

Pentium... look how they massacred my boy

[@y2kboris186]

Damn Zade, good talk, good talk. You took me back man. Absolutely love C&C II - Tibsun, great game. Of all the Command & Conquer games Tibsun holds a special place in my heart for two big reasons: 1) Fun fact, my birthday IS Sept 2, soo way back in the ole' year of 1998 guess what game my best bud Chuck bought me for my B-day lol? The war LITERALLY began on my birthday lol; talk about immersion 2) Of all the C&Cs Tibsun had probably one of the most interesting environmental models in terms of graphics and realistic physics. Its true the newer games 'supposedly' have 'better graphics' whatever the hell that even means nowadays. I liked Tibsun because what other game in the C&C universe could ice freeze over and change tactical movement in arctic areas? Dangerous Tiberian-based lifeforms that can kill everything? We got those. Dynamic weather patterns complete with Ion storms that could down BOTH friendly and enemy aircraft at any time? Just the fact that you had the whole dynamic of... , I set off explosives and blow giant holes in the ground I thought was one of the coolest aspects of Tibsun. I can recall numerous MP games where that actually was a tactic. We would frustrate our friends and my cousins cause my friend Chuck would play GDI and I would play Nod and, I would 'build' these epic trenches with Nod artillery where it took vehicles and like infantry an entire minute to climb the incredibly steep walls, and basically Chuck would sit at the top of the hill and use Disc Grenadiers to rain down hell on everyone from really high up. If you force-fire the terrain with GDI grenadiers because in Tibsun they 'glide' he could kill all sorts of stuff that would normally outclass us from extreme distance cause they'd bounce ALL the way down the giant chasm of a trench. It was hilarious. Good times.

[@darkranger116]

Yes. Yes you should. I've had this game installed since 1999. I've had tiberium wars installed on my rig since 2007. It just works.

[@dontblameme9468]

Kudos to you, You are a legend.

[@dowmage2903]

ah peace through power, a good execution :D I still think of that line as one of the most memorable when I played it back when I was a teen :) Good video

[@dontblameme9468]

"Rule of thumb Hassan, You can't kill the messiah."

[@Zade_95]

Thanks! Yeah me too, never left my mind

[@DezorianGuy]

Pretty nice review! I really felt the personal feelings you had, still leaving room for objectivity. It had been a nice series overall. The very few first ones at least.

[@Zade_95]

Thank you! I appreciate it, and glad you enjoyed it!

[@OldManBryan]

This game was so mind blowing for me when I played it. To see old bases from way back in CC1 I saw when I was a kid along side the modern. Old and new mammoth tanks were just such an awe inspiring moment for me. Will always have a place in my heart this game.

[@looc3Z]

You should try mods: 1. Twisted Insurrection 2. The Dawn of the Tiberium Age 3. The second tiberium war

[@Linkirvana]

Hey dude! Saw you picked up on the cheesy vibe of the cutscenes and wondered if this was done intentionally, I can tell you that it was intentional! The guy who directed the FMVs in Sun, Red Alert, the original C&C and Red Alert 2 is actually the actor who plays Kane, Joe Kucan! Everything I've seen of the guy is great, and I absolutely adore the vibe of the FMVs in the games that he directed (Which is everything up to C&C3)! Great video, I love this game!

[@Zade_95]

Thanks! Yeah I agree - he does a great job! Really lives the character

[@lavrenzo84]

Stronghold in 2D looks beautiful and awesome !.

[@Zade_95]

Hahha yeah I know! But in the mind of the average gamer.....

[@sirnukealot84]

I loved the emotion you got from the fmv cutscenes, the music and tactics and unique units and structures and it felt more free than star craft when it came to macro strategy.

[@KReeMMeeNAL]

The key was to still hold that image in your head of the Mamoth MK II from the cutscenes into the gameplay and be the king of the map... I am pretty sure u were able to transport it also to parts of the map, or I might be glitching

[@Lunak-89]

Terraforming with artillery, breaking ice, subterrain units - a lot of stuff is in this game that we never saw again in RTS Funfact, they also had to cut a lot of stuff, a bit more time and who knows what would the game & series would have been even more.

[@Zade_95]

Yeah the list of cut stuff was pretty long, would've been nice to see them appear in a sequel if they ever had the chance!

[@MachiBhasad]

Finally completed the game this year. Played it first when I was a little kid and it was just too hard then. This game was the first RTS I played, and still remains my go-to.

[@Litterbugtaylor]

I completed the nod campaign for the first time ever yesterday so yes, still need to do GDI and firestorm but it's good. I'd say red alert 2 is still better because polish and nostalgia.

[@Zade_95]

People never stop talking about how much they LOVE RA2, I really should play it....

[@redalertsteve_]

Zade I swear if I don’t see a video about RA2 and expansion soon, I’m good be slightly disappointed. (And it’s mods)

[@gian3458]

@@Zade_95 if you want to you, can try out RA2, but I don't think you can really buy into the nostalgia of other people. I also love RA2 & its expansion, as lackluster as that was, but I only became attached to the game because it was my first RTS. Red Alert existed before RA2, but I didn't give a shit because it wasn't my first. You probably have better TS memories and, hey, more power to you! I have to say though that in my experience playing both (not played TS as much as RA2) that RA2 appears more polished. Graphics and unit movement animations look smoother. Updated game mechanics that I don't think TS has like garrisoning civilian buildings and capturing neutral buildings w/ an engineer like oil derricks. Gameplay too is better. I can be A LOT faster in RA2 than I can be in TS cuz TS doesn't have keyboard shortcuts and mouse operations. The only thing RA2 doesn't have are cool units. It has quite a bit of new technology, but not as much as TS appears to have.

[@flaminghailstorm9149]

@@gian3458 Absolutely no medics in the original RA2 though. (Love the repair IFV and all the OP elite units)

[@romandobrov8460]

Red Alert 2 was one of my favorite games in my childhood. Tiberian Sun was the last C&C game I played (I do not include so-called C&C 4 in the list) and I have never realized what I've been missing. I finished the GDI campaign only yesterday and oh boy, I enjoyed it so much. Story cutscenes with Micheal Biehn, unique Firestorm mechanics, futuristic walkers, completely different factions compared to Tiberian Dawn, and awesome music sending you right back to the early 2000s. I guess it is my favorite C&C game now. My only complaint about this game is a lack of categories for units and buildings like in RA2. But in every other direction, I got so much more than I was expecting.

[@Procrastinater]

"Mammoth looks so tiny" Try again in 480p 4:3 aspect ratio.

[@rich12015]

This is by far the best one. I still play this game even to this day. The graphics hold up because of its style. Story was good and range of units. Love this game

[@KrisHandsome]

To be fair, the Mammoth MKII is freaking massive in cutscenes. It looks like it’d be fairly big even compared to an AT-AT.

[@Zade_95]

Fair call! Thought it was a funny thing to note in game :P

[@KrisHandsome]

It’s even funnier when you see how big the Cabal Core Defender unit model is in Firestorm.

[@leohelen1858]

​@@Zade_95 very very late reply but the main reason for this is mainly due to an engine limitation where it would take up too much on screen if it was actual sized as well as not being able to move around the map very well with decent enough pathfinding ( which would be realistic given its size but also frustrating for players)

[@chrismilton3240]

Short answer that doesnt take a 20 minute video, the answer is a resounding yes!!! Play this game all the way through at least once, it is worth it, and with the community fixing and maintaining the online experience, it makes it even better.

[@Zade_95]

I agree; but it's less fun without it :D

[@chrismilton3240]

@@Zade_95 damnit your right!!

[@brandonbailey3705]

this was a good example of a game that used atmosphere well (the colors but mostly the soundtrack) I love cnc3 but always felt that they missed a great opportunity to make it truly apocalyptic with some frank klepaki tunes

[@Zade_95]

I agree! CNC3 is great (probably my fav), but TS's soundtrack is too good

[@BigReddthehebrew]

One Thing your forgot. The games then didnt have lengthy tutorials because they came with a manual. The manual had the tech tree in it and it shows you what the Tech center gives you when you build it ..Other than that Amazing Video !

[@aznflipguy647]

I just dug up this game a couple weeks ago and replayed the Nod campaign. The stealth-based missions didn’t really age well for an RTS, but other than that, solid game.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

uhhhhhggghh, stealth in rts's have always been bad in my opinion, and no I don't mean in the sense of setting up an ambush or hitting the enemy with an unexpected attack, but in terms of having a stealth unit remain undetected, it's mostly staying away from detectors.

[@Zade_95]

Yeah I agree, World in Conflict did it ok, but mostly its pretty meh

[@samueltan9588]

shout out to the Dark Reign mention, the first RTS i ever played. you are the 3rd person i heard say that name. 1st being my bro, 2nd me. (seriously, none of my friends played that game)

[@silversolver7809]

Here's a 4th for you :) Dark Reign was seriously undervalued at the time. While not as good as C&C/RA or Total Annihilation for me, I preferred it to Warcraft or Starcraft.

[@Zade_95]

Tell me about it - I've hardly heard any mention of it anywhere else!

[@spongerobert]

Yes you should play it. Also get your null-modem cable ready for some 1v1 action! This was the first C&C game I ever played and I love the art style and awesome music plus cyborgs you literally shoot in half and they still keep on going. I first had a pirated copy of the game (I didn't know what piracy was back then) so no movies between missions but eventually played the original version I borrowed off a friend and this game just sucked me in. Kane was a genuine badass to me and it was pretty gruesome when he slit that dude's throat on stage... The 90's man, what can I say This game ticks so many sci-fi nerd boxes that if they made a TV series about it my life would be complete. Hell I even played the crap out of that shitty unplayable FPS game they made (it's actually based on regular C&C) just to immerse myself more into the world

[@MrMTGPsycho]

Short Answer... yes.... yes you should. The gameplay is amazing, the challenge is amazing, and it truly immerses you.

[@youtubecrack]

Guys, cncnet guys. Fixxs for game and online play, a must have to play in 2019

[@marioskoutras6583]

I bought this game today on a flean market complete with the manual in a big cardboard box in a very good condition along with 4 books for about 3 euros. It's crazy, this is a fantastic game!

[@Zade_95]

That's awesome! Collectors item right there

[@TheDude50447]

Short answer: yes. Long answer: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

[@danschilcher1123]

It’s worth mentioning that Tiberium Sun was developed at a time when games were bought as a physical CD that came with a manual. This game was no exception. It came with a manual that gave a lot of depth to the world as well as a poster that clearly laid out the tech tree. More modern games don’t have this and so they need to provide this information in the UI.

[@gdigrenadier8252]

My god i was looking to get this again, my childhood is now coming back 😁😁

[@apocalypse930]

I realised only recently that the time limit for Nod final mission is 3 hours instead of 1 hour. That explained that the unreasonable difficulty gap I've always hated didn't even exist. Still, to think that I've actually managed to beat that mission before the first countdown ends.

[@Zade_95]

Countdowns in RTS missions really irritate me lol.... I just wanna turtleeeeee

[@Happy.Chillmore]

I like every C&C but Tiberian Sun was my favorite. :D

[@samuelschwager]

Just finished the GDI campaign. Still one of my all time favourites!

[@AlexeiVoronin]

A serious gamer would not be turned off by old graphics, IMHO ;)

[@RainingMetal]

Tiberian Sun felt like the black sheep of the franchise (not counting Tiberian Twilight). It was ambitious to a fault, given how many of its mechanics were a bit arbitrary and it was really difficult, even for Westwood game standards. My main C&C squeeze of the era will always be Red Alert 2, but I'm always intrigued to revisit Tiberian Sun when I can, until I reach a fork in the mission structure and I pick the wrong one. I hope for a remaster that allows mission selection akin to the 2020 remaster of C&C and Red Alert 1, along with some quality of life features.

[@marilynlucero9363]

I still play it and I love it.

[@Zade_95]

Awesome!

[@grevesman]

paused at 30-ish second to go watch one of your other vids, came back a subscriber

[@Zade_95]

Appreciate it! Hope you liked the future cop video :D