Discussion is one of the best methods to minimize misconceptions in controversial aspects. Blessed are those who arranged this discussion session! We have also lots of controversial issues which needs such an organized discussion programs.
@me_212 Жыл бұрын
Mr yonas wahat you all said is logical plus with reasoning and commentary... The problems is most ppls follow thier religion blindly while faith is a belief in the absence of evidence.
Agree with you Yonas 100%! It is unfair that you have to debate two people who have the same position! Ethiopian Protestants can be narrow minded. Even If you ask American Conservative Christians, they would agree with you. Music is Music. There are beautiful music that are secular and there are garbage songs written in the name of Christianity. Only Ethiopian Protestants divide music between ዘፈን and መዝሙር! Without knowledge!
The comment sections reflect how most people misunderstood Yonas. His intention is not to lead people to sin. He has a based argument. His is saying "Orgies/ Komos the word translated in to ' Zefagnenet' in our Amharic Bible translation is not equivalent to secular music." Pr. Solomon in turn argued that the word zefen in our context as broad as it is can represent secular music. We cannot deny that in the Old testament Israel as a nation had cultures involving singing songs not related to worshiping God and these were mentioned in the Bible without getting neither condemnation nor approval. I'd want to add this: what's morally acceptable even for us evangelical Christians is not necessarily derived from the Bible alone. Culture, language and social issues cannot be neglected.These factors profoundly affect how we interpret the Bible. I'm not saying let's see some secular songs as morally acceptable; I'm just saying let's try to understand what Yonas is saying before calling him names.
@halakedegela189411 ай бұрын
yon god bless you and all their.
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
wow tebarek wendm solmon
@jolememeru4718 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with brother Yonas Gorfea.
@yegetalejeneng45018 жыл бұрын
Geta yishalihalena wede irsu temeles
@yegetalejeneng45018 жыл бұрын
Your agreement is really biblical. You have submitted your self to the devil. You and Yonas Gorfe are followers of Lucifer who is going to Hell accompanied by multitudes in which you are a member. Repent today, come to Jesus Christ before you are lost forever.
@jolememeru4718 жыл бұрын
+Yegeta leje Neng ግብዝ
@gizawAdugna12438 жыл бұрын
I do not think so. how come you said that zefen is good for the kingdome of God? if you want to sing for devil there is specific place like night club chichinia, but not in the house of God Almighty? we were fadeup of this life and accepted Jesus and you guys wanted to go where we were, you will get it, egna gin amlitenal.
@MN-xf8xu7 жыл бұрын
Jole I'm orthodox. Zefen ateyat new 4 netib
@selamer86574 жыл бұрын
Ato yonas great job
@Jaspergroup1517 күн бұрын
Lik new ...yihen book nebregn ...be yonas gorefe hassab esmamalew ...andade Weta bilachu yalwin secular world lay yaltun negeroch abizagnaw astemari ayawkewim .my view
@aynidawit66228 жыл бұрын
abye betam melkam sera serthal zemnh yebarek berta
@etsegenetkebede93598 жыл бұрын
Thanks God! bizu ewnetegna ye egziyabehare lejoch selalun geta yebarek. Zefagn Mengist Semay Aygebam. Yonas, I advise you to pray a lot if you can, to get a good answer from holy spirit otherwise ask others to pray for you. In my opinion you are under presure of Setan so you really need deliverance. I hope you will be a good testimony about this issue in the near future. Egziyabehare ahunem be sera lay new!
hi Abiy, I need your copyright permission to use this video. keep up the good job.very encouraging. Mr Camp.
@ecclesiamedia3168 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Camp You didnt tell us why you need the copyright. If you use for youtube you can use it us it is hear. But we recorded people to watchd it freely so Not allowed to sell it or other money makning tings. Thanks For watching our videos
@rutzewdu17418 жыл бұрын
betame desiyilal tebarku
@yedidyaful8 жыл бұрын
In a way the discussion was eye opening and educational, however, there were holes in their supporting evidences and a huge logical fallacy.
@lastdayscomingsoonmaranata5574 жыл бұрын
wendime solomon ewnet new yalkew shir ylutal zefeninm mezmurinm israelia
Ante moyaye new eyalk yegzabher kale letsherw new ahun gbage ante focuse yarkew yegzabher kal sayhone sela ante endat argahe gabi tasgble new Egzabher mihrtune yarglhe
@firomsatesema172 жыл бұрын
Conclusion? 😭🤔
@bayisadebela13314 жыл бұрын
Sorry I dont care about any person talk and says ,what we must care is what God said about this issue. Just tell us what God said,all praise and Glory must be to God. But secular song is about praise other than God . Please don't deceive people. But what we must care was how we bring those who lost.
@tigistmatta57174 жыл бұрын
Be eyesus sime zafagn mefesi idezih iyaderki amagnochi idizefinu new mitilawu? geta yikirebelike
yene tikyake zefen wist mindnew tadya you are those things eko yeset amlko
@tube45458 жыл бұрын
ere tew bakih zefen enzfen bilo medrek lay mekeraker zefaNnet hatiyat new tew tew
@dilbiyoseph74168 жыл бұрын
Secular music has a very dangerous way of manipulating our minds. Yes there are some secular songs that talk about sexual sinus and immorality in general, that is obviously a sin. But the ones some people put out as "the good ones" are actually a lot more dangerous. They have a way of making us believe in 'fate' rather than "faith" they make us believe that all you need is to be good and there is no need of believing in God. So we can believe in luck rather than grace. So my point is, secular music is a sin period.
@dilbiyoseph74168 жыл бұрын
And not to mention it is the worship of the devil, so please stop fooling yourselves
@yedidyaful8 жыл бұрын
Is that what the book of Songs of Solomon and Ecclesiastic do to you? I am not trying to instigate an endless argument but please go back read those books and tell me what they are speaking of?
@dilbiyoseph74168 жыл бұрын
Yedidya Seifu sorry I don't get what u meant by that. Can u explain clearly?
AHUN BEALEM YEMIZEFNU ANSEWBIH NEW ZEFAGNOCHIN WEDE BETE EMNETACHIN LEMASGEBAT YEMITITREW YONAS GORFE
@MN-xf8xu7 жыл бұрын
I'm orthodox. Zefen sin new. chikoch enji amilak aymesegenem lol.
@lensakuma55474 жыл бұрын
Marta Yadeta ትክክል
@elshadaigeta44647 жыл бұрын
TELEY YEGETA LIJ TELEY EGNA AMILAKACHIN LIYU NEWINA LIYUWOCH ENIHUN!!!!!
@fes59211 ай бұрын
ርእስ ሆኖ መቅረቡ እራሱ ምን ያህል ድክመት እንደሆነ ያሳያል።
@አምሳልየጌታልጅ7 жыл бұрын
ወጣቱ እዲሔድ እንጂ እዲመለሱ አላረጋቹም እግዚአብሔር ይቅርይበላቹ
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
lek ebab lehiwan endesetat meker new enji ye egzabhirn hadab yemigelts aydelem yeante agebgabi guday ye ante selehone leante enji lenga aydelem enga angebagabi guday sew wedebkerstos endit endimeta new be westeh yalew alem gena selalweta new
Pastor Nigusse and Pastor Solomon thank you for the response that is presented according to the principle of speaking the truth in love. Zefen does not have any contribution for our growth to Christ likeness. We will continue to argue until this poison is ---------How long will it take?-----
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
menm aynet saitiset betetekes ye egzabhirn hasab atagengm yonas eski ke egzabhir menfes gar gezi wesedeh awera temaker men yelhal ye egzabhir menfes lealem kotet endih kekenah leamlakhes men endtle
@jeshurun27464 жыл бұрын
Abet ke gud awtan Min meweyayet asfelege zefen hatiat new alike. Kamarachiu enantew zifenu!!
@salamawafi14546 жыл бұрын
አሁን ቆይ የናተን እንስማ ወይስ የእግዚአብሔርን
@abrhamlinika40613 жыл бұрын
ቅዠት ነው መጀመሪያም ዘፋኝ ነበሩ ወዴት ሄደ
@abenezertadele71498 жыл бұрын
አነንዘፈፍነንመም
@sabafidel82926 жыл бұрын
Galatians 5:21 is GOD Allmighty's word, end of discussion !!!
@KANA-TEWAHIDO9799 Жыл бұрын
ዲያቆን ከዘፈነ ፍየል ከቀዘነ
@jesuslovelove7038 жыл бұрын
be ewent geta zemenhen hulu yebark wendem selemon
@thionlema77248 ай бұрын
ሙዚቃ ወሲብ ቀስቃሽ ነው : : ነጥብ
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
lek hiwan aplun wesda le adam abren enbla bela endesetechew antem manen gedel yezeh letgeba new
@CourageDearHeart3168 жыл бұрын
apple alneberem fire (fruit) neber yemilew bible lay..esun gils lemareg ewedslehu. blessings
@alemyadetal26924 жыл бұрын
👫👪😍😍📖☝️
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
gera lemagabat geta gebtoh yemetah yemeselal yonas ayzoh tewew ena gitahn akberew lemanm betzefen mnem wetit yelewm hulum kentu new gita gen lezelalem new ke kalu lay mekenes mashshalm aychalm mechmerem aychalm bealem yalew hulu kentu new chmist ena phisices aydelem ye egzabhir kal be saintiset ewket formula yetetsafe sayhon abatoch bemnfes kedus temertew yetsafuln new enji keniyawi aydelum so bake on yonas
@lov38888 жыл бұрын
Era begzabher sem mindnew melaw yalew chrashe
@tigistmatta57174 жыл бұрын
Wogelin be limide sitatena kou minim ayimesilim be mefesi siune gine uluem iyetadesik timetale buzu tebebegna litiune tichilale neger gine wogel be mefesi new mitawokaw geta eyesus le betikiristan mireti na yikirta yabizalat ye tebebegnoch tibab atefalawu yalawu geta ersu tibebegn unu yitebikati
are geta libonh yestki yonis gibz naki latkmki tkrkrlki yasfrli
@bethkebede30738 жыл бұрын
Hulu yemote endehon abren enmut bay nk yonas? Set le set ena wond le wond bahun gize bezu ye wechi betechrstian tefkdalch, enesu miyargutn menkebel kehon gay ena lesbian hatiyat nw belen lalemabarer yihenens benkebl teru nw satel atkerm. Ye kenya Christina eko geta hoy maren yemiyasbel Christina nw be hatiyat west eywagnech yalchen betechrstian enemsel malet betam yasaferal. Sw tednakfo bewdekebt dengay hulum wedkwalena lemen egna enkeraln abren enkoshesh malet asafari nw. Endet be tsdek ena be kedsena menor endalbn mikerenen enji be mesaf kedus west gelts hono tsfo yaln ewnet anseto tadagin mawenabed ena ke egziabher marak telek adega nw. Hulum sw yatefal seheteten amno sayrefed yiker belugn malet awakinet newna please ato yonas ye mimels leb yinurk. Fitken hulu achelmotal eko beleloch lay yeminbebew selam yelm antegar.