Zaunkoenig M2K Mouse Review! LIGHTER=BETTER? (24g, 8khz)

[@boardzy]

is lighter better? i dont think theres a right answer tbh. also check the description 4 a bit more info

[@Steve-eh2rp]

I think of weight (within reason, I ain't talking about some 200g brick) as a subjective aspect like shape and size. I don't know how you could conclusively prove if weight makes any real world difference so who cares, whatever floats your goat

[@redlionqc7276]

To a point yes but it can be too light

[@MargootMC]

If you wana know what a 0 gram mouse feels like, put your hand into your mouse grip without the mouse and move it around like you are playing. It kinda sucks. Having some weight gives you a better feel and more control. I'd say something around like 30 or 40 grams at the lightest

[@ghhlx9863]

@@redlionqc7276 well that depends, in a perfect world you want 0 grams and 0 friction between the mouse and the surface because in a perfect world you would have perfect control

[@mem_ry]

@@MargootMC meh.. 0 gram would be insane actually. Absolute precision without having to move weight. Technically 0 gram wouldn't work cause of the weight of the PCB alone.. unless you're saying like 0.# grams. Then we'd be entering the milligram weighted "mice".

[@eXSPLY]

I wake up drenched in sweat every night and remember that cable.

[@abm6772]

boardzy: we have seen the mouse market being dominated by non plastic mice there are like 2 mice that are not plastic ffs

[@boardzy]

Complete domination of the market (more orochis have sold this minute)

[@Merkhanic]

"NOONE IS DOING SHAPE COMPARISONS ON A LEVEL SIMILAR TO MINE" - the actual mouse God, Boardzy

[@Sammy-hw4lo]

Imagine a mouse lighter than my wallet and more expensive than my pc.....oh shit

[@Scoutingg]

i built my mom a $400 work pc.. how is ur gaming pc $300 lol

[@jerry8826]

@@Scoutingg optiplex with a gtx 1650 used the day before 3000 series

[@jow_angelow]

@@Scoutingg not all people could afford a "gaming" pc yknow

[@Sammy-hw4lo]

@@Scoutingg i bought a second hand for like $250

[@fireflameft2964]

I got an RX 590 with a R5 2600 and 8GB 3200mhz ram for 500 bucks lmao, second hand obviously

[@assai74]

For the mousecable this works best for me: the cable makes a slight righturn (like a questionmakrk) followed by a full lefthandcircle with 10-15cm diameter and goes under the cable coming from the mouse. The end is fixed on the table just by a weight for easy ajust. The cable coming of the mouse has less friction lying on the slope. The slope allowes the cable to bend over a longer length in all directions and dampens the overshoot on quick movements. Way better than hanging the cable.

[@adenputnam1660]

I put a shoebox on my desk and put my bungee on it sideways and now I can't feel the cable. It looks incredibly dumb though.

[@boardzy]

Extreme innovation. Couldnt get the lunar dial or micro bungee to work well so i gave up

[@sealsterrence]

that cable literally made me die irl

[@escapenguin]

Feels like wireless makes anything with a cable feel awful. These look super well-made but I'd hate to drop that much and not like the shape.

[@notpurnhub7521]

Piranha custom is making the wireless m1k

[@nyororomeowelas1225]

@@notpurnhub7521 yeah that thing is cool but the scroll wheel is like a Bic lighter after you take that metal band off

[@notpurnhub7521]

@@nyororomeowelas1225 true, does catch eyes tho if you're into that

[@Sway___SD]

bought this a few days ago because I'm a deranged fuck, stoked to try it thanks for the review!!

[@boardzy]

iirc you play apex, bet you will like it for that

[@Sway___SD]

@@boardzy cable got me nervous tho, already getting annoyed at the hsk cable lmao

[@nbshftr]

when the m3k has side buttons its over

[@boardzy]

i wonder what the m3k will be

[@Dhaydon75]

@@boardzy wireless but without any buttons to make it even lighter.

[@KRULE666]

@@boardzy side button wireless, making Zaunkoenig the only mouse company in the world to produce mice by weight backwards.

[@wakey.9711]

@@boardzy 650 dollars on sale lmao (with side buttonss))))

[@seymourbrown4540]

@@boardzy hmmm, i would be happy if they even just release like a m2kr which is just like a paracordable version of the m2k or something

[@MargootMC]

Honestly if it was 30 grams and wireless it would be better

[@boardzy]

Completely agree

[@TheWhale030]

" 4k/8khz polling rate did NOT work in fortnite, apex legends, or any aim trainer." 4k -Hz Works perfect on APEX LEGENDS And 8k hz working on kovaaks for sure. I can prof both in a clip and live on stream :)

[@boardzy]

I believe it does for you! I was talking ab my own experience with high polling rate

[@TheWhale030]

@@boardzy ok. If it's not working for u maybe it's coz of your system and the fps and CPU management in total.

[@boardzy]

Yeah probably my ryzen cpu. Legit get sub 15 fps in games with 8khz

[@TheWhale030]

@@boardzy I get dropped to 120 from 190 cap in apex :) 5950x 3090

[@0grr345]

1:30 was bars

[@mikekonkola1231]

I'm surprised no company copied this shape and made a wireless budget option that's not 300 dollars

[@jumpman120]

@mikekonkola1231 G Wolves do it with the HSX Pro ACE or Pro 4K mouse

[@chrisn8226]

"The feeling of instantaneousness..." well, now I know what I was missing in all those 1000hz mice. T-shirt incoming!

[@boardzy]

LOL

[@aytech105]

i love ur honest review keep up my man

[@hamallle4kahamallle4ka95]

😮FINALLY . THANK YOU. I'm waiting for my copy of this

[@ascendfn1035]

8khz only works in usb 2.0 btw

[@beegee6559]

btw to download warzone its not 200gb. when downloading make sure you untick the modern warfare campaign/multiplayer

[@boardzy]

Ah good comms

[@mrghostfedora2465]

@@boardzy Yeah there's this download option on battle.net where you can do this

[@IcejjfishTbone]

Bro if we get a wireless version it would be amazing.

[@Ellipsis115]

3:05 What is he refering to? Does he mean linux or are there modifications to windows you can do that make things like this magically work? 7:26 This is also something I find, for whatever reason I think light mice make more difference to tracking. I believe its because in tracking you are constantly making corrections, that's what tracking is and so the *CONSTANT* accelaration and decelaration will hugely preferable to mice with lower enertia i.e. lighter mice will be better at tracking but if you are moving a mouse from dot to dot to dot, as long as you don't miss and have to make a correction, it should make less of a difference but should still obviously make a difference as you do have to get the mouse moving in the first place. I think it all goes to show that although there's a lot of objectivity there's also a lot of personal preference. One thing I also notice is that makes the most difference is that the surface (or I guess both surfaces) don't effect flick scenarios but again seem to massively effect tracking, to the point that I prefer a table over cloth because I believe dynamic friction makes that much difference. Although the difference from table to glass, isn't as noticable amazingly, so maybe even if you want to save money, don't mind the noise and don't mind the likely consistency benefits of a glass pad, using a lower sensitivity say 40+cm per 360 over a massive table could be the way to go.

[@r_se]

i think he's talking about custom windows ISOs tweaked for performance increases.

[@MeowTow]

So rubber cable, no side buttons, and overpriced? I'm good.

[@trump1termer560]

Yeah I was going to cop one of these pending the review here but the wired, no side buttons kills it for me. Starlights going for 320 on stockx which really isnt too bad anymore but im just gonna stick with the superlight rather than support such a shit company as finalmouse.

[@mariobaracus2619]

@@trump1termer560 me too i could preorder that shitty starlight but i dont live in the usa so i can rma it 20 times just like every american does. I need something fiable with great qc

[@ItsHari]

"A bit out of the budget," you don't say

[@miguelskii]

boardzy glorious diss track leaked on the instagram live. verse leaked on this video!!!

[@Tekinette]

I feel like people that love ultra light mouse + fast mousepad do more aim trainer (or osu!) than actual ranked fps games.

[@boardzy]

Defo not true, especially when u realize top aim trainer players just use the g203. Look at what fortnite/apex players use

[@tateobligation8319]

Whoever makes these thumbnails needs a raise

[@bagman9981]

M3k with Zowie glides and one side button when

[@notTerabyte]

Piranha has a couple of similar mice that I've seen renders of, like the M1K-W and the CYBER. Afaik they both have scroll wheels and are wireless, might as well try them out, if he's willing to send you some samples

[@boardzy]

i dont want to try those tbh. also the scroll wheel doesnt click like wtf lol also massively heavier

[@notTerabyte]

@@boardzy lbf, there are going to be sacrifices made when they are being made. besides, there's damn near nothing else new to review anymore unless you're willing to buy Zowie C-line or CM MM731 when it comes out.

[@Retrobloo]

i think I'm gonna buy it for my newborn

[@yedrellow]

Make a m3k at 26 grams with 2 sidebuttons and we're in business.

[@fl6yy]

let's wait and see what g-wolves has to offer with carbon fiber

[@boardzy]

oh stop lol. they said their metal hati s is at least a year out

[@mudofx9368]

I don't get why the mk guys just build an fk inspired shape and call it a day

[@zekethep1umber]

Ah I was wondering what mouse you were using for your recent vertical longstrafes scores on the loader board.

[@cyroz1]

i love the sound of carbon fiber

[@TheAcePiolt]

GMMK Pro Review when?

[@boardzy]

uhh tbh i have no idea, i have silk reds and the stock plate its sooo average. might be BETA and upgrade it

[@jo-ve6uo]

manifesting that zowie sends u the new ec3-b

[@boardzy]

I’ll prob just buy it retail tbh

[@owconundrum9928]

Dumb question but have you tried that umbrella pad with this mouse? Fell like that weight might be a good combo with mud pads

[@boardzy]

I have, it’s nice. One of the kovaaksruns in this vid was using it

[@o0oSM00THo0o]

Zauuuuun Keeeeööönig lmao that was the most english pronounciation of a german word I've ever heard xD

[@robertyin4668]

Quick question about your xm1r: When you move your scroll wheel side to side, is there a clicking sound? Because that happens on my copy. Not a big enough deal to rma but yeah

[@randomdoggo8294]

Not on my Xm1r

[@poopooballs650]

Mine does that too but i dont think its anything to worry about tho

[@Finndramere]

might be used to scroll left to right. G502 has that.

[@hurricane-1836]

What is the name of the white mousepad from the video?

[@Daniel-ye1ss]

it just hit me. when will there be the first gaming pens?

[@boardzy]

ur a genius

[@Overdrive-19]

there is this guy star rain on youtube who plays fps with a drawing tablet and pen, if you are curious

[@nsn333]

when will boardzy make a mouse

[@TheHawk425]

now you just have to review the medium s12

[@boardzy]

Now they have to send me a medium s12 😭

[@mem_ry]

You could probably paracord/sleeve the cable in a DIY fashion.. as in using the cable provided.

[@alerosale5090]

boardzy what nootropics you taking

[@adityaaurora9869]

*finalboy has left the chat*

[@RoboticusMusic]

I hope Razer releases a wireless viper mini made of carbon fiber.

[@RoboticusMusic]

@Angel Angle Perfect timing lol thanks

[@RoboticusMusic]

@Angel Angle You hallucinated bruh lmao

[@calledtigermttv7184]

Do you prefer the superlight or the zaunkönig

[@merpt7140]

Boardzy g pro x arc is over o7

[@testtube173]

I really wish rocketjumpninja would try this mouse.

[@matilope1876]

How tf did you even scroll with the m1k?

[@boardzy]

You have to drag the slider down, barbaric

[@alejandrosanchez3746]

Don’t know if you all ready did this to your gmmk pro, but if don’t like a stiff typing experience you could swap the plate for another like for example a polycarbonate plate and second what switches are you using rn?

[@boardzy]

Gmmk pro will be stiff n garbo no matter what I do

[@drewmorg.]

$350 mouse with a 10 cent cable good lord

[@ktg_2castle960]

It’s actually an insanely over engineered mouse including the cable. Google is free my friend

[@drewmorg.]

@@ktg_2castle960 its a rubber cable that slaps around the desk like any other. I don't need Google to know how marketing works.

[@thisisluxion]

@@drewmorg. actually it's one of the best cables out there, it just feels heavy compared to the mouse

[@drewmorg.]

@@thisisluxion A cable is a cable brother. They snag and catch on anything. Once you go wireless you don't go back

[@ktg_2castle960]

@@drewmorg. they used ultra fine wire, Kevlar and polyurethane. The goal was to make one that was not to limp but not too stiff. Wether they achieved that or not seems to be personal preference but every single piece of this mouse was engineered with purpose. You’re out of your mind if you think they just used some 10cent cable.

[@Jacob-mi3il]

Can you do a renewed review for the mm710?

[@steezegod2768]

Nerdy Numen & I have been awaiting this review for awhile now! Thanks for the review Boardzy, he made a joke in discord for your animal review to drop xD

[@tsillie9555]

****** Steeeeeeeze

[@steezegod2768]

@@tsillie9555 Ninja steezeeeee

[@auggy]

2:55 you need to plug it into a USB 3.0 port

[@auggy]

I think

[@boardzy]

I plug it into its own dedicated 3.0 port, not user error

[@auggy]

@@boardzy oh alright

[@renardao3410]

Yo boardzy, loving your content. I discovered you with the mz1 review (which i main rn btw, plz don't hate me) and i pretty much watched every one of your video since then. I just have a request; could you showcase a 1-3-1 grip in your futur reviews? it's hard for us 1-3-1 fingertip users to get a proper estimation of how a mouse shape could feel based on reviews!

[@boardzy]

will try to

[@renardao3410]

[@nbimc]

280 people understood that meme

[@thebadCODplayer]

Day 1 of asking boardzy for a legion m500 review

[@albioncia]

free gmmk pro? or you cancelled your refund?

[@gravebeatz8145]

for the cable a friend told me to put it in hot water and my life changed ever since

[@daemonkisure2952]

hot water? for the mouse cable? why? xd

[@saechun]

8kgram 24hz

[@noviall618]

You should do a review of the new mouse bungee from endgame gear I want your opinion on it

[@32andrew]

But does it Have usb-c😂💪🔥👊♥️

[@rsllimiteddeck9050]

Hi Andrew

[@poopooballs650]

Shalome andrew

[@Gustavo-sw7qv]

You should call your subs cats because we are all "mouse consumers"

[@dylank20]

Does someone know a mouse with the same shape of the razer lancehead? I really enjoy my razer lancehead, although I feel that it is too heavy for nowadays and it's cable sucks, if anybody know a mouse with the same shape, but maybe lighter I would really appreciate

[@nilsnils185]

what if they made that with magnesium

[@brandonkey181]

ever heard of diminishing return?

[@zazabean23]

what if the sensor wasn't trash

[@nilsnils185]

@@brandonkey181 no i haven’t

[@SpecialOpsPepe]

Guess the macdonalds happy meal mouse really did get canceled 😢

[@xeta7021]

also would you recommend to use the starlight on the zero or the hien boardzy?

[@boardzy]

Feels great on both, zero might be a bit safer

[@haka2622]

not seal of approval?

[@MrBiosh0ck]

5:36 You're Welcome

[@terrencetheodoric9783]

Would u prefer the m3k having a fuller shape or actual side buttons

[@lore9605]

Both aren’t happening

[@terrencetheodoric9783]

@@lore9605 just a hypothetical question lol

[@I2obiNtube]

8k is a nice to have, the cable is a show stopper tbh

[@boardzy]

8khz is so nice when I get 10fps on fortnite

[@Xenon_001]

@@boardzy bro can afford all of these mice but not a half decent cpu 💀

[@SanOcelotl]

Why am i watching this when it coast 300+usd?

[@boardzy]

shh dont think just watch

[@sangriell]

warzone is actually around 100gbs now but nice review mr boardzy

[@The14james]

every mouse i ever used i was forced to use fingertip grip because i have large hands (22 cm x 13 cm) so i never really care for mouse shape because i know i can adapt, if Zaunkönig ever makes a M3K id like to see 2 extra thumb buttons and also a better mouse to cable weight ratio even if that means the mouse is a bit heavier or they should try to make a more flexible cable edit: i dont own a M1k or a M2k, these are just my thoughts based on the vid

[@r_se]

look into hsk pro or hsk plus

[@THECCCUT]

what nootropic do you have in the background

[@boardzy]

caffeine pills

[@cannibistalks]

Thank you, good review. You helped me make my decision.

[@liamobrien9451]

Why the fuck are they using that cable material, that seems like an intentional decision?

[@ssanyeux]

photonwire on those would be crazy

[@poopemogee501]

Whatever happened to photonwire anyways

[@ssanyeux]

@@poopemogee501 apparently, accepting orders :P but ye i suppose the pandemic had them down a bit.

[@halcyonramirez6469]

disable steam overlay. it should help out with 4khz and 8khz

[@boardzy]

I noticed that overlays caused problems, but this didn’t solve it. My fortnite and kovaaks legit go below 30 fps with 8k lmao. Just super stuttery with 4K

[@halcyonramirez6469]

​@@boardzy sounds like a CPU bottleneck then. 4khz works fine on my machine and I have a 3950x

[@raytep7119]

Imagine that with honeycomb

[@februalist4686]

dat cable 💀

[@finno7281]

Do a mousepad cleaning tutorial

[@Huddled]

nice caffeine pills

[@boardzy]

AHA

[@undeadduck9064]

Yo a borgy upload less gooo

[@carty722]

You should do more kovaaks in ur mouse reviews

[@boardzy]

maybe, kinda feels like im wasting time while playing it

[@carty722]

​@@boardzy have you tried the rA benchmarks and routines? Only reason I have motivation to play is because I set a goal to get emerald on their benchmarks. started at bronze 1.5 months ago now im platinum and I feel so much more confident in-game so far.

[@harrisondarkly]

as someone who had made plenty of cables "you cant paracord this" makes me want to buy just to paracord it.

[@ronniemillsap]

please post a vid and name it something that us boardzy followers would find searching for mice etc : ) id love to see what you do, as I was wondering how id para cord it if i bought it : )

[@harrisondarkly]

@@ronniemillsap I don't have one and probably wont buy one since I have a starlight. But I looked a while back and i'm positive you can do it. But you are going to need to be someone who is comfortable with a soldering iron and can desolder stuff without destroying the pads.

[@harrisondarkly]

@@ronniemillsap scratch that. the cable uses a 4 pin connector that is connected to the motherboard. if you can get it apart without breaking it you can hook another cable up to it. picture of the motherboard is on zaunkoenig's website

[@ronniemillsap]

@@harrisondarkly ty securing a soldering 9iron person first!

[@harrisondarkly]

@@ronniemillsap dont you wont need one. it just connects via a clip

[@assassinge5079]

1 mouse is good the other is bad , I'll let you choose your side

[@johncener6917]

Cener nation out

[@boardzy]

oh no we lost cener nation

[@ebu632]

It is so cringe that you say kunig instead of König

[@boardzy]

Its cringe that you think such a bizarre symbol deserves proper pronunciation

[@nickritona297]

Orochi v2 op af

[@lessvegetables2532]

deadass bro

[@MaLe899]

For pure Ftip grip would u still recommend the starlight over the m2k? disregarding price.

[@flux3033]

No

[@DimaYT455]

Wait this dude paid 300€ for that 24g shit? holy..

[@chasepack732]

god that cable looks so aids. i usually dont care much about cables, i didnt even mind the cable on my m42, but that one just looks atrocious

[@stu_gahtz1740]

Literally waiting for fedex right now with my starlight then seen this mouse mentioned. Thanks for the vid. Wire , fingertip grip , and no side buttons are a hard no for me finger tip grip being the only thing id re consider. Lol. 👍

[@tirthkachhia6650]

8k hz works on Intel better and is shit for ryzen cpus

[@sabo4055]

I just broke my scroll wheel

[@boardzy]

On the m2k?

[@daemonkisure2952]

do u think is worth to make holes in this mouse and make it lighter?

[@Golden2Talon]

no