Jane and Yanagi are so strong, it does not matter which side you play them on. They can destroy both sides. Weaknesses really don't matter at this point if you have either of them.
@KahlevN20 күн бұрын
Yeah, it’s not like other element based games, you can absolutely play against element with a strong enough dps, and those two definitely are strong enough to do so. Also, Janes chain attack is super strong and refreshes her passion and jump, so she absolutely benefits from a stunner in the current buff cycle.
@kritzum21 күн бұрын
Queen Zhu Yuan will not be disrespected like this.
@Kuddochan21 күн бұрын
Lucy should probably be in T0 by now, at least now that we count up to M6. Similarly Piper ought to be T0.5, those two together with Burnice are so strong and fluid. Since Burnice came out there hasn't been a single Shiyu cycle where they haven't wiped the floor with my Ellen team in terms of clear time, makes no sense she's higher.
@Matt_RareMonkey21 күн бұрын
Ben DPS is being slept on, he is T1
@notapllicable717821 күн бұрын
I think piper actually makes sense she is basically a "disorder support" for the two strong anomally units, as solo dps anton is better than her here but as a way to proc disorder she gets her rank.
@Eclin21 күн бұрын
Meta in this game is still too young, i don’t think there’s a huge gap between tier 0 to tier 2 currently. Most character can achive around 1 minute clear with fairly reasonable investment, and that includes the defense and support characters as the dps.
@Dellima12 күн бұрын
Lighter made me come back to the game, now I’m saving for Miyabi, and thank god we will get a free DPS, cause if I loose the 50/50, I’ll still be build 3 teams. This tier list made me realize which 4 stars I should invest for my teams, also I’ll try to pick Lycaon once I reach 300 standards. Thank you ❤
@estebanjorqueragutierrez700221 күн бұрын
I saw that there is a way to play as Ben as a dps with Lighter if you dont have S11. Although i don't know how effective it is with low farming investment.
@Yawnz221 күн бұрын
Ellen will always be my #1. Going for her M2R1 for her rerun 🙏🏿 After Burnice it's 100% saving
@tomeetipee21 күн бұрын
Ellen is amazing. Mine M0R0 is 3200 atk, Cr 74, Cd 165, she just shreds everything. It's annoying that a lot of enemies seem to have Ice resistance lately though.
@paraisooo21 күн бұрын
Same I regret for starting at Jane Doe patch skipping Miyabi for Ellen
@cringemorecringe454921 күн бұрын
Same definitely getting some copies when she reruns
@cartoonvideos520 күн бұрын
@@tomeetipeeYes, it should change once Miyabi drops.
@Roe77720 күн бұрын
Yeah Ellen is the only 50/50 I've won so I'm not dropping her anytime soon, got her sig too. As long as it's not resistant to ice she clears S rank ez
@mazamonx21 күн бұрын
Do Hoyoverse ever go back to characters to buff / nerf later down the line? Limited and non-limited.
@tourist222221 күн бұрын
Apparently they did it for Zhongli
@Chaos109120 күн бұрын
@@tourist2222Keep in mind there was a huge amount of negative feedback and pressure on Hoyo for that to happen.
@nightarrow733618 күн бұрын
I bet it's going to be like hsr with adding new disk or w engine. We already got 2 set that didn't do much for existing agents, so it will probably be a while for a new disk.
@maxwu414521 күн бұрын
I wouldnt put ellen or zhuyuan above jane in any case even in this "rotation." Anomaly just has the better damage output atm
@ddd882821 күн бұрын
Zhu Yuan calcs around the same damage as Jane, she just felt worse because of Shiyu anomaly buff and no Ether weak (and all stun DPS being terrible at Withering 11/11).
@REP_GAME21 күн бұрын
@@ddd8828Zhu Yuan’s DMG catapults when she’s in a team but Jane and Yanagi’s solo DPS is unmatched. Yanagi works really well with disorder and Jane is a brute force unit with big numbers so it compensates for her awkward team synergy.
@ddd882820 күн бұрын
@@REP_GAME yeah. i usually play with 3 units. i suppose it would be different if you wanted to play with one for some reason. and zhu yuan is more reliant on s rank support than jane at least.
@justmatrix340221 күн бұрын
I think Nekomata should be tier 1.5 and Rina and Soukaku should be tier 0.5😊
@ХединДобрый18 күн бұрын
You are wrong about Jane. Did first half faster with her then second with Ellen. Teams: Jane, Seth, Caesar / Ellen, Lycaon, Soukaku, full bild, with good discs, Ellen without sig
@chilaitalmonor200319 күн бұрын
There is a video of a Mad Billy clearing Floor 100 Solo on YT. The concept of “Tiers” is interesting to discuss but truly doesn’t matter in this game.
@ILUVBHS21 күн бұрын
Was able to clear all of shiyu S rank with burnice lucy piper and Yanagi Seth Rina, so dont be discouraged from trying your anomaly teams for current shiyu if you don’t have traditional dps stunner support teams built
@valtir21 күн бұрын
ellen/lycaon/caesar team is broken with any stun-related buff, you can parry-switch between lycaon and caesar to stun anything in seconds, while also buffing ellen through the roof. I think that caesar is the most broken character in this game because she can abuse both stun and shield buffs
@thatguy-uf9nh21 күн бұрын
Remember everyone is buildable and viable
@Roe77720 күн бұрын
I'm not pulling anymore limited damage dealers until I can't S rank Shiyu. Got Ellen, ZY and Jane so I can work around resistances. I just want more limited supports or tanks (already got the goat Ceasar)
@SalMag721 күн бұрын
regardless of debuffs/buffs, who stuns faster, Lycoan or Koleda? I need a stunner for my zhu yuan. I only have Lighter.
@aidanlyons2518 күн бұрын
Brother, just use Anby.
@OliPewPewPew21 күн бұрын
Love Zhu Yuan and Ellen as they are still excellent in Shiyu Defense even though they are T0.5, rocking S rank for all the season stages till now
@Yoru-desu1321 күн бұрын
S11 definitely needs to go up at least one tier. Even w/o Lighter, Caesar exists. Lucy is also a very strong f2p support that works well with S11. She may not be the strongest DPS solo, but her best teams have S tier stun and supports.
@nagichwaan21 күн бұрын
Exactly but they're talking about meta so we can't do nothing about it. Meta in zzz is useless imo bc even supports can be your dps and clear contents without any problem. Well that'll be their problem I'm just pulling for waifus. Astra will be next and will skip Miyabi. She's very cool tho Lucy is just amazing even though she's A rank tbh. I use S11, Ben and Lucy and Lucy have the highest score most of the time
@MisterMinotaur21 күн бұрын
Idk, Anton is just bad, even against enemies weak to electric. On paper, his kit sounds phenomenal, but the results speak for themselves when you can clear electric stages quicker with neutral elemental DPS/Anomaly units at M0 :/ T2 sounds fair. S11 should definitely be higher though, especially if Burnice is T0.
@joshuajackson520321 күн бұрын
Anton needs Rina in order to be decent, other than that.....yeah you right
@KahlevN20 күн бұрын
Anyone problem is that he gets stronger when a powerful shock anomaly is applied, but massively pollutes any shock anomaly that is applied…
@FinnHuman637821 күн бұрын
I've been saying this before but just because Anomaly is broken as it is, doesn't devalue what Attack units can offer. The units should be ranked based on Maximum investment not Minimum.
@fulloflovelust947719 күн бұрын
the games really wanted me to play S11 cuz they gave me her M1 along with her weapon and Lighter with his weapon early and im SHREDDING through the content. my queen deserve to be respected and not measly 1.5
@BuddyChy21 күн бұрын
Oh it wasn’t updated for the current Shiyu? Okay that’s fair then. Right now Ellen, Zhy Yuan, and S11 go way up at the very least.
@joshuajackson520321 күн бұрын
lol was able to clear all 7 with an S (one minute a piece) using jane doe, seth, caeser on one team Yanagi, burnice, lucy on the other. It required no skill, idk what you mean or what this is but Yanagi and Jane are always T0, they're too cracked.
@fazenihar217321 күн бұрын
Which is lowest and which is highest. It’s one of my first times playing this game
@RerunBladeIPayForE6S521 күн бұрын
Lighter is the closest i'll get to Blade for now :c But the e6s5 dream is still alive for now I'll have fun with my m0s1 lighter :c
@kiwee457721 күн бұрын
NONSENSE. Even with the latest Shiyu, Zhu Yuan can clear stage 7 in both stages EASILY. In what world does she deserve a T0.5?
@jonlim76921 күн бұрын
Hi i like your analysis though your tier list is based on what other characters you have. Perhaps you should do a tier list based on teams instead of one character
@tenkokan54221 күн бұрын
I do agree that soukaku's buff are same tier as Nicole and Lucy, but i still think she 1 tier lower than both. Why? Because her animation is soo long that is deserve lower rank
@RosaryFGC21 күн бұрын
After Miyabi, Ellen re-run, and Zhu Yuan re-run. I’m taking a break from pulling characters.
@m0neyp0lice21 күн бұрын
Same
@RosaryFGC21 күн бұрын
@@MrFrexys there is no such thing as a “must pull” and I have Yanagi at M1. So my Miyabi will be strong enough to nuke everything.
@cringemorecringe454921 күн бұрын
@@MrFrexysI already know the first limited support going to be so busted
@GothamThotSlayer21 күн бұрын
I feel like Rina should go up her C1 is very good 👍🏾
@beserklee29021 күн бұрын
I'm clear all S without any stunner.....anomaly rules!!!.I thinks tier list now not just base from Shiyu Defense only need include Tower Defense too
@TheJasperMage21 күн бұрын
cleared easy with Zhu Yuan and Soldier 11
@Gabzzzss16 күн бұрын
I GOT LGHTER ON MY FIRST 10 PULL AND IM A STARTER WTF LMAO
@ShawnSonofGod21 күн бұрын
Sleeping on bear 🥹
@HigherEdGaming21 күн бұрын
Lets be honest - if you have a limited dps they are lvl 60 and have their moves leveled - They can all go on both sides ad be fine. IMO, Grace, S11, and Anton (if the infinite drill is still in the game) could be moved up (I wrote this before u mentioned it xD). And my boy Ben needs a Buff! MAKE HIM BIGGER!
@pedrolft901021 күн бұрын
S11 should be T1 at least
@draken472321 күн бұрын
Hari-hari ngikutin tierlist..
@kiippykiip21 күн бұрын
Not the happy tree friends 😨😨
@S0UPIE21 күн бұрын
W headphone taste
@rivelkelch32723 күн бұрын
Rina T1 🤨? Seth T1? 😂
@mismagia21 күн бұрын
T1.5 S11 is the dumbest shit i ever seen
@guotyr250221 күн бұрын
No , they're not tricking me into getting lighter ! Miaby save no life, no end. But I'm glad grace finally fell, she's so ridiculously weak, even when shiyu was buffing anomaly she still was absolutely trash and I have her c1 with engine. Anton does deserve his place, still clunky af
@slylysylar21 күн бұрын
Second 😂
@renatamainere610421 күн бұрын
First!
@CrownofRa21 күн бұрын
Lighter is so mid and gameplay wise boring AF.
@cringemorecringe454921 күн бұрын
Personally he’s pretty fun to play, and he adds 100% damage to ice and fire so he’s going to be amazing for future attackers