Zenvo TSR-S: Accelerations & Twin Supercharged V8 Sound

[@maarten194]

The driver controls the spoiler with his eyebrows

[@m.b.82]

Haha. Quality comment.

[@rsproductions5]

Anytime this car shows up the internet engineers all come out of hiding. CLASSIC

[@alexhndr]

That Trippy wing bruh..

[@hellobooom]

"Tilting the wing will change the downforce it produces on each side and impart a roll moment reacted from the center of pressure of that side of the wing to the mount against the moment on the other side," said Jeff Braun, a championship-winning race engineer whose experience spans IndyCar, NASCAR, and IMSA. "This would try to roll the car and warp the car by causing a diagonal dynamic corner weight change." Translated to English, Braun said: "Understeer."

[@c0c0asauce]

I read that article and he was guessing. No one said they tested it or that they knew how it worked. The same could be said for any device used to increase rear down force. It will always lift the front. Anyone with a track Miata knows you shouldn't use a rear wing or front splitter independently. I don't know if it works but neither did Jeff Braun as of that statement.

[@jackassrower]

@@c0c0asauce Jeff has a point. A wing that is on an angle will not only impart a vertical force, but also a horizontal one depending on the direction the wing is tilted. That horizontal force is only being applied on one end of the car (the rear since no such wing is installed on the front) in turn forcing the rear of the car towards the inside of the turn around the cars Z-axis. This twisting motion around the Z axis will be in the oppsite direction of the twisting force being generated by the front wheels attempting to pull the nose of the car into the corner. In short Jeff is 100% right. The higher the speed, the higher the downforce and also LATERALforce applied to the rear of the car pulling the rear of the car into the turn thus causing more understeer the higher the aerodynamic forces.

[@c0c0asauce]

@@jackassrower M Z If you don't have actual testing from a wind tunnel then you are still guessing. You are also assuming the rest of the car has no counter or effect of it's own. This car has different front splitter than their other cars. "The new design improves front to rear downforce distribution by generating front downforce and directing air to the underbody. The updated front bumper and front wheel outlets stabilize the air around the wheels." www.topspeed.com/cars/zenvo/2019-zenvo-tsr-s-ar179967.html Jeff, in the same article you are quoting, said that he doesn't know how the wing works and that they could have done testing to find the optimal angles. You are saying he's right but you have no numbers to back it up and Jeff who has professional experience said he was just guessing. I welcome actual tests but I don't need to have the horizontal forces explained again when we don't even know how effective the wing is.

[@jackassrower]

@@c0c0asauce I'm not guessing nor just assuming. I'm an engineer and I understand static vs dynamic loading around an axis. Doesn't matter if the front bumper is different, unless it has active planes that twist the car around the Z axis to counter the forces generated by the rear wing the problem will persist because well.... physics.

[@c0c0asauce]

@@jackassrower There's no way you can look at a car in a video and know how all the aero works and how well it works. If you have numbers then I'll submit. If you didn't measure it then you are guessing. To clarify what I mean when I say how. If the car typically oversteers and the wing counter acts that. Would you call that causing understeer or just reducing oversteer?

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

wow this comment section i feel like im the only one who like the moving spoiler

[@hellobooom]

Yes.

[@unrealgoat_6878]

Everyone either thinks it’s broken or just plain stupid 🤣 it literally applies downforce evenly to all four wheels when it tilts, why would you complain about that!?!?!?!

[@dragonsquad100]

I think the aerodynamic theory its implementing is pretty cool

[@PvtHaynes]

Not the prettiest spoiler

[@Renopus]

Functionality on the other hand is pretty.

[@lifeinsurance4495]

Functionality over form.

[@parminderjaura5642]

The spoiler is a genius idea. As an engineering student, it blows my mind why racecars dont use it often.

[@landsurfer66]

Noice! I suspect though that the extra down-force generated by the spoiler angle is minimal. Would love to see the numbers.

[@Curry3659]

It's a giant wing, you're never gonna get more than the design allows, but if you can direct that same downforce, to a when that needs it, you feel more grip and a flatter corner.

[@hellobooom]

@@Curry3659 except that you're now affecting the front opposite tire, causing understeer. The exact purpose of this wing is undone by diagonal forces, which is why ALL other active win designs work in a balanced manner. This seems like it's oneans desperate idea.

[@Snafu2346]

This is my favorite music channel.

[@lubabarahim2864]

That wing looks so annoying when it moves

[@458alok]

It is so smooth, it looks like it's broken. Nice one Bozzy!

[@Sigrafix]

Is that giant moving wing really necessary? I feel like you could achieve the same effect by having ailerons and flaps on the wing itself instead of moving the entire wing which I think looks ridiculous Lol.. I dunno, maybe that'd be too complicated with too many moving parts but I just think that wing looks silly.

[@jaylazer2442]

Nice Wang

[@og_ice_freezer]

It's an extremely good looking car, but this moving wing is kinda gimmicky

[@joe125ful]

Yes!

[@K-Effect]

I wonder if any company or individual will build a car where all of the bodywork on the car moves just like that wing. That way the car can always have the perfect blend between aerodynamics, down force and breaking. I would love to build it but I don't think anyone would give me $30 million to design and produce a working example.

[@jendrus423]

Amazing zenvo:)

[@daveshaw9344]

That wonky wing is just silly It's a heavy and overly complex way of accomplishing something that other manufacturers did by directing air into the spoiler and stalling it... Making it wiggle around on hydrolics is a gimmick

[@faloxzz0778]

i don't think it's necessary to called it gimmicky since its work pretty well and i never heard of issues about the wobly wing so...

[@Spudchucker92]

That wing is......unusual.

[@SerPurple51]

Interesting concept. I'd like to see comparisons between this car and one with a fixed spoiler on the same track with the same driver and have onboard telemetry as well.

[@idontknowwhythischannelexi7200]

Love that sound

[@T13Y24]

the wing looks innovative no doubt...but don't know how reliable in cold weather is.

[@jraybay]

I remember the first time I saw it I thought the spoiler was broken :/ lol

[@AndreiTupolev]

What's the idea behind that wing then? Does it move according to which direction corners go? It just looks as if it hasn't been fixed on properly

[@danielgreen5641]

It's not broken

[@R4YD5ON]

I got a question ... Does this WANG really work ? But like aerodynamic , down force ... ? Or it's just a fancy , useless element ? It's cool but does this thing work ?

[@Jyllenberg]

That wing looks like it's gonna get ripped off in any moment.

[@CascadeFreak]

The almighty tilting table-wing

[@Offender666]

Why don't they tighten the rear wing??

[@danielgreen5641]

It is supposed to move for more grip on corners

[@Curry3659]

Is there a way to keep the wing straight for normal driving?

[@benedictroberts678]

How can such a mad looking and crazy car sound so...boring?

[@guillaumeporchet5575]

superbe belle voiture 🙀🙀

[@JasonWaterfalls13]

If I had a dollar for every time this car's Goodwood footage has been reused on this channel I could actually afford it.

[@19Bozzy92]

The reality is that you would have 2 dollars, since on MY channel I only used Zenvo's footage for two videos: this one and the "best of supercars in Goodwood" video. Go complaining on other's youtube channels please..

[@coldheart9829]

19Bozzy92 good on you bozzy!

[@LatestHour]

I'm pretty sure my towel rack has the same mechanism and only works when I walk away.

[@ЖеняРимаренкоКРІСМАС]

ДУША РАДУЕТСЯ .

[@myk6694]

Good sounding car, but that moving wing... Meehh

[@onetwo3706]

It's disgusting, right

[@joe125ful]

That wing is soo funny:)Moving,wiggle...

[@Woebel1]

Flame at 00:40

[@lenwoodcruze3594]

I have no clue why watching that spoiler move around like that makes me giggle.

[@Neawoulf]

Whether that wing works or not ... i don't know. But it definitely looks weird and to me not in a good way. Other cars with moving wings look a lot better, Pagani Huayra for example.

[@Nico7g]

Weird, but surely effective

[@777anarchist]

That wing looks it's been broken.

[@RCmaniac667]

@European Colonist no one denied it

[@ahrred3127]

Imagine Applying That Wing Into A Bodykit Or Splitter, Just Like That Car In Granturismo. Anyway Nice Video Mate!

[@onetwo3706]

Imagine Typing A Comment Where Every Word Is Capitalised, Like A Bastardisation Of English!

[@Renopus]

@@onetwo3706 That's how some type, nothing wrong with it.

[@Davidovar34]

@@Renopus oKaY BOoMeR

[@thenobodyjosh9121]

Im telling you the wing is not broken

[@poppinxxbobaq873]

Every time I see that zenvo it has a broken wing 😅

[@RedDogeYT]

The Vlogger yep always has a broken wing

[@poppinxxbobaq873]

MD Do stuff yeah lol, wanna swap subs

[@MAKSKOMERS]

Хорош:))))

[@gasubakuhatsup]

ウイングが取れたのかと思ったら

[@eye8512]

ら？w

[@Vedenjakaja666]

Love that wing dancing

[@dragob7780]

i checked just to see why it broke its wing...

[@spamcan9208]

This thing is so damn goofy. It doesn't even work, it actually screws up airflow. Wish I could find the video where an aero engineer explained why this wing is so stupid.

[@onetwo3706]

Worst. Wing. Ever.

[@FronkG]

the wing is just a gimmick trash

[@sforza209]

They’re just making up bullshit because they couldn’t fix the wing on time for the event! Edit: also, @2:09 I would love to go to Goodwood FOS! Just look at the array of amazing cars there! It’s insanity!

[@unrealgoat_6878]

Giancarlo Eiras why do you have a women’s cameltoe in your “Good Ideas” playlist. Kinda weird bro....

[@pclouw]

So who gives a crap about looks for now.. from the hybrid hyper car monstersnone have had he idea to create this sort of spoiler.. sure alot of active aero bits but this.. besides the look for now.. is a step ahead

[@t-hoxautopublic9314]

Spoiler 😟😳

[@clubsport9334]

Spoiler looks so fuckin janky.

[@THE_Michael_Westen]

This whobbly thing does not look trustworthy. I am not sure I would have the confidence to drive in that.

[@suhy9861]

Dumbest design for a wing, completely counterintuitive in the fact that the downforce applied from the tilt literally causes that corner to pull an UNO reverse card on the opposite corner of the car because of the size of the wing

[@huzaifakhan735]

First