Here's Why All Smash Bros Games Are Broken

[@Heeew]

Woah, I made those

[@sean5902]

Woah, I watched those

[@jackhecter3737]

Woah, just rewatched them

[@somerandomidiot1864]

Hey Heeew, love your content

[@HollowPurple-if2co]

Woah, I like your content.

[@Richmykal1212]

64 is still the most balanced smash game

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Just remember this. Any character that beats you is broken, the player is cheating, and your controller was unplugged.

[@horusset9439]

Ha there he is. Dude u must to adjust your timing, we was worried about you XD

[@GokuSolosYourFavoriteVerse69]

Yes

[@GokuSolosYourFavoriteVerse69]

Little mac is broken

[@redx6923]

Wow

[@edwardrobinson5470]

Yes I agree. All smash games is broken.

[@esqimo6647]

“You had to individually practise the chain grab on every character” No you just had to do it on Meta Knight

[@poopheadtwenty-seven540]

ZeRo forgot Meta Knight was the only character

[@tenacity25]

Well, and Icies

[@Bahamut-ti8uv]

tenacity25 and maybe snake

[@ensanesane]

To be fair there was also a grab release chaingrab too

[@Misterfrater]

Zero forgot metaknight was literally the only character he used on the all is brawl ladder and all the other professional players really frowned upon it even M2K his best friend

[@Smug-Sonic]

Zero: I hate ladder combos Also Zero: plays Mario

[@_SodaZ]

He has become the very thing he swore to destroy

[@ToikaThatOneFrenchGuy]

ZSS (Sm4sh) : *O H H E L L O H E R E*

[@art2norrman872]

Also Zero: Played Smash 4 professionally*

[@medakags9855]

If u can't beat em Join em

[@hfrmartin]

lmao i used to hate mario but ladder combos are definitely the easiest to perform in ultimate

[@goldengoon4073]

"I paid for them. They better be broken" - alpharad (2019)

[@eggstremegoat]

Lmao good ol alpharad

[@seniorshrek6197]

Get outa here

[@tornadoandy123]

Funny Aerial

[@snailmannn]

Rouge Falinks I paid for the game it better be broken

[@gluessb]

@@snailmannn that is in fact what OP said

[@PoisonDuckAnimations]

On a related note, has anyone noticed how Brawl's sound effects seem incredibly... Echo-ey?

[@Wave-uu6mz]

In ultimate it sounds like yoshi's sfx were recorded in an echo chamber or at least processed ultra heavily

[@Matt_4457]

usually when music sre turned off you notice them easier lol

[@wired-up5677]

I've noticed melee sfx have a really weird reverb effect on them like they were recorded in a small closet bathroom in the sky with the window open

[@theStridingRebel]

Brawl had the best sound effects in the series, the sound when you charge a smash attack? Best sound in existence

[@jeh8944]

I swear bro

[@piedpiped3267]

“A lot of you guys have been asking” no zero, we have been wondering

[@kkflick]

Missed opportunity for him to use it since his name is zerowondering on Twitter

[@jasonmelanconjm]

Kurtazin “so a lot of people have been wondering” has basically been his slogan for years

[@dragginballz4747]

*wandering

[@oak9789]

Many Magic the Gathering Players ask....wait wrong channel

[@SomeRandomInternetNinja]

Reminder to all players: You didn’t lose because they were better than you, your chair was just non-tournament viable

[@Endershock1678]

"The most meaningless difference has gotta be between Pit and Dark Pit". Laughs Peach and Daisy's few pixels of height and width difference. Laughs in Aura vs Flame Holy Water Laughs in Minor Samus and Dark Samus roll and height differences. Also, fun fact, Peach and Daisy used to have different turnip properties. Peach had less knockback but more knockback growth, making it excellent for combo and edge guarding, while Daisy had more knockback but less knockback growth, making it far more consistent for kill confirms... then they patched it.

[@leozimmer6140]

It was “an oversight” because daisy was using smash 4 turnip properties they should have kept it

[@64b4bx]

Honestly, they should've made Daisy like Sm4sh/Melee Peach in terms of grabs and some moves. Daisy using the headbutt and OG down throw 👀👀👀

[@Jfray252]

Fishey Cakes Actually no, it was named DAISYTURNIP in the data, Peach’s turnip was named SBB4TURNIP. They now both have the ssb4 propery.

[@thenoseguy]

Just make her a skin already.

[@derekq8790]

Since you reacted to heeew, I'd recommend Asumsaus next; he does melee content as well.

[@relaxn3918]

Get this comment to the top

[@danirfan5452]

ZeRo doesn’t really do exclusive melee content though

[@laserbeamlightning]

I watch him for his presentation and I don't even play Melee

[@sir5434]

No

[@dad4436]

@@laserbeamlightning try it, it's really fun

[@seansquiers6506]

Sakurai: Now Ice Climbers. You're grab infinites were a big problem for Melee and Brawl. So we took you out of Smash 4 to rework you to where that won't be an issue in Ultimate. Ice Climbers: Yes Sakurai we promise we'll be good *evil smile*

[@Braxton_desu]

Buff ics

[@Endershock1678]

Ultimate IC's are so cool. They are jank in the right hands, but the combos are so difficult and complex that they don't feel cheap and their win feels earned. And it's hype to watch.

[@nyon7209]

I'd rather die at 0 from 200 bps than 200 bpm. I also think that Sakurai intentionally left the ability to do something in the game, just not something easy.

[@Logan17258]

I thought they weren’t in smash 4 because of hardware limitations on the 3ds

[@michaualtington]

@@Logan17258 you are correct

[@Frightz27]

"A delayed game is eventually good but a rushed game is forever bad" - Shigeru Miyamoto

[@saricubra2867]

Also Miyamoto: Allows Super Mario Sunshine to be released as a rushed game and Breath of The Wild with framerate issues specially on the Wii U and locking important things behind DLC... 🤷🏼‍♂️ EDIT: BOTW is a good game, but people complained about the lack of character development, framerate issues with combat, korok forest and dungeons. Nintendo then improved the framerate and added another dungeon with the DLC, there is no problem to be offended, this is how we can get constructive criticism of games and make them better. Skyrim also had a GOTY and was rushed at release too, so i don't see why with Zelda the behaviour is different, both Skyrim and Breath of The Wild have glitches that people use for fun or exploits, just like Melee, so there is reason to be angry.

[@xtensioncordtv1969]

@@saricubra2867 BOTW got GOTY without dlcs and the framerate was only bad when you were fast traveling. Dont disrespect a game at the tier of BOTW without knowing what your talking about.

[@ivansalinas8821]

IM SICK OF SEEING THIS DAMN QUOTE!!!!!!!!

[@justinthibodeaux8601]

Brawl was delayed like 3 months and its still buggy as hell

[@Zangelin]

@@saricubra2867 Miyamoto didn't really work on either of those but ok.

[@JXEIO]

Fuck I miss ZeRo so much... I hope you are doing well man, I really do...

[@vleessjuu]

13:00 However, Kirby's up throw could actually give you a guaranteed Kirbycide if you grabbed the opponent after rolling towards the ledge. If you had the edge directly behind you, up throw would plummet right past and they couldn't mash out of up throw either (unlike forward and back throws).

[@curtainsandsuch]

not as broken as my heart along with the community. rip zero

[@yeameow]

where is he?

[@dusky6280]

@@yeameow He's a sex offender now. Along with a good portion of other prominent smashers from all games. Go have a read on the wiki homie. Glad they're gone, but man is it ever disappointing.

[@Wmei64]

@@dusky6280 he’s being cancelled for being tricked into sending something dumb that he apologised for and said he felt ashamed. But hey c*nts at cancel culture don’t have feeling nor a sense of justice so they just want something to do cuz they don’t have friends so instead they take them away from others.

[@dusky6280]

@@Wmei64 The law is the law

[@dusky6280]

@@Wmei64 The law is the law

[@gabrielegardinali]

The real broken thing in Ultimate is input lag, it's too much compared to other fighting games and older smash titles. This, combined with bad netcode, creates the worst wi fi experience of all the competitive games

[@ThaTrickstaProd]

I completely agree, especially with using complicated characters like meta knight. they also need to rework the input latency with their controllers

[@kris0375]

They should lower the input lag from 7 frames to 4 frames, that would be very helpful to not only offline but online too And I heard it's actually pretty easy for them to change that

[@Jfray252]

The problem is also the buffer system, that make the game unresponsive and the mis-input frequent. Brawl has almost the same input lag, but the buffering system was not implemented.

[@josephassiryani9174]

23:00 I think incin would acc be top tier if he wasn’t so damn slow. *All* his moves are good, but he’s just slow and can’t recover

[@I_Am_Ion]

Agreed. Having mained the character since release, Incineroar has such a good kit all around, but his speed and recovery is what holds him back in a lot of situations.

[@laurancehaddad710]

And his actual grab is so shitty.

[@Francisco_Castro_Loves_Music]

But back throw kills the earliest out of any character

[@JunKokoro]

@@Francisco_Castro_Loves_Music Hero: Am I a joke to you?

[@laurancehaddad710]

@@Francisco_Castro_Loves_Music the back throw is great but actually grabbing the other player sucks

[@AverageHandle_]

I never expected you to react to this and I would say this is great

[@xavierarchie4272]

Yo I've seen you before

[@lyrradprime5177]

I’ve only seen him in my dreams

[@samoansilverback411]

Penis

[@chrono_black_vii2997]

ZeRo. I heard you are not going to make videos anymore. It pains me to hear this but I understand. But please don’t ever resort to suicide it’s never the right choice and if would pain me even more to hear that. You are my favorite KZbinr and you pretty much always have been ever since I started playing smash. So even though you are not making videos anymore please move forward and continue with your life. This comment is most likely to get buried but if there was a chance I could get this message to you then it was worth making it.

[@Creatic58]

Chrono_Black_ VII Email him

[@phantom5757]

@@coldtea7 that didn't age well

[@phantom5757]

I know it was pointless just saying that nario wasn't what he was made out to be from zac

[@wolfdragox5563]

Maybe comments like yours were helpful for him in a time where he was “the bad guy” and everybody hated him

[@StillJustAJ]

I’ll miss you forever man, no matter what, I hope you will come back one day

[@luismonroycenteno4724]

13:40 I never played smash 4 But this is actually the dumbest thing I've ever seen

[@vkaa3k190]

samus in the right hands is just as bad as bayonetta. You are fucked. Her reach is incredible, she has priority over your moves and spamming projectiles at you when you are flying around the stage due to high %.

[@link4753]

@@vkaa3k190 bro she has one good thing come on

[@thatrandomfailure9208]

@@vkaa3k190 so in the right hands samus can fair 1 you at 0 10 times and you die? Or can she kill you off the top at any percent? Or a move that literally says no (witch time). That samus clip is literally just rage and has nothing to do with samus.

[@Chrysosi]

Agreed that was legit one of the only moments that weren't funny lol

[@jonathanfreeman5398]

Dont try to play it. Do not turn to the dark side

[@icarlygod]

23:48 I think tripping was bad even though no one really lost to it. It still made dashing risky and it meant that characters had to either walk everywhere (ICs) , approach in the air and spam aerials (MK), or spam their projectiles until they get an opening (Olimar, Diddy, Falco, Snake). Generally, it contributes to game's slow pace.

[@nuredingeziqi679]

9:50 If I remember correctly, Roy litterally has the same frame data as Marth, but has slower animations making it so literally his hitboxes disappear too fast

[@irritationnation6122]

Sm4sh: “when everyone is broken, no one will be”

[@michaualtington]

But then they made like 20% of the characters broken

[@jurekantoine]

mobile legends in a nutshell

[@Code_EJ]

Petition for ZeRo to watch AsumSaus

[@Tippssy]

Rage as a mechanic was a fantastic idea but they really should have made it only apply to smash attacks. That way it's still an exciting comeback mechanic, but is more risk/reward, and no jank.

[@minecraftveteranyoda4476]

ZeRo: *mentions Heew* Me: Hey I know that guy!

[@cadenlikespigs]

Meeeeee toooooo

[@longthornhenderson331]

Me as well

[@e-scorts7485]

I as well!

[@Snowballsage]

Same

[@Tohlemiach]

Who cares

[@dominictrujillo568]

Goodbye zero, it was fun while it lasted

[@laffy7204]

"We hadn't have a character like Bayonetta or Cloud from Smash 4 or Meta Knight that breaks the game apart" The character you're looking for is: Online sonic

[@KoaYuki]

In my time zone you upload at 9 and my online class starts at 9 so I watch this instead of paying attention to my class. Grind never quit

[@ladin3863]

Makes sense

[@dogefan12349]

When you're so early that Guy Without a Mustache doesn't even know the video's out.

[@brysonsmith2216]

lol

[@isiss3659]

Last time someone said that he replied to this comment

[@davity2002]

@@isiss3659 lol

[@BobJones-bh9qz]

When you’re so early you see the token Dogefan Lego Filmz comment about Guy Without a Mustache

[@dogefan12349]

@@BobJones-bh9qz Sh*t you right

[@steve-ovii6538]

With melee Roy, what they did is they slowed down the animations of Marth, but ported the hitboxes of Marth directly you Roy with out increasing the amount of active frames on the moves

[@kaindosil8854]

Zero back in my recommended dang

[@DOPAMINESEEKER77]

damn

[@lazypaladin]

I never knew about Brawl PkmTrainers fatigue mechanic. Informative as always. I always say Brawl is my fave: One, it was my first SSB game and like Zero said theirs a charm to it. Sure you have chain grab, meta knight and tripping. But Subspace was amazing, the movement felt smooth in a way and I honestly love the realistic models.

[@henryreturns1397]

"If it ain't broken , don't fix it" Smash Bros Games in a nutshell

[@TheMasterBlaze]

But sadly as the years go on; fewer and fewer people know the difference between good and game breaking.

[@Gadgetmcflyv2]

"If it is broken, endure it or you're a John" Actually Smash bros in a nutshell

[@aldali724]

Robin Rad literally this entire community. They wanna suck sakurais ass so bad

[@Endershock1678]

It it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is broke, fix it later!

[@tatenomura7576]

@@Endershock1678 If it is broke, don't fix it

[@notalive5479]

9:35 Alright, so if I remember correctly, the issue with some of Roy's attacks does result from mostly being ported from Marth, but for an interesting reason. Roy was designed to be a sort of bruiser counterpart to Marth, with slower attacks and a focus on getting close and personal. What they did was make his animations longer, but they didn't actually change when the hurtboxes come out. Melee handles attacks by initiating the move, and then having hurtbox "timers" that tell the game what frame to initiate the hurtboxes and what frame to remove them. The hurtbox starter starts the hurtbox, the ender ends it. There were some hiccups with it, such as Link's nair, which didn't have an ender. As a result, it kept its hurtbox for the entirety of the move. This is besides the point though. The problem with Roy is that they made his animation longer, but didn't change the framedata of the hurtbox. This means that the hurtbox for Roy's dash attack comes out while his sword is still beside his body, and ends before he actually swings his sword. The move has a hurtbox on Roy's arm though, so technically you could still hit someone with the move if you used it as a shoulder bash instead of a slash(which might be interesting to add to a swordie in the future actually) For his up-air, it meant that the hurtbox disappeared before he finished his swipe. tl;dr The developers made the animations longer without changing the framedata.

[@CriIp]

You made such good content, Rip zero for now

[@nicolasfogleman2388]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the editor loves Persona 5

[@Markysharky35]

Zero I’ve been playing a lot of smash recently and I’ve been getting considerably better thanks to your vids and I was wondering what your controls are cause you always say how you just flip the c stick for smash attacks but I know the majority of pro players have it set to tilts which is what I have mine set too so if you could show us in a vid that’d be awesome, also love the vids man keep em up

[@josephassiryani9174]

Ya and I think he might have tap jump too, but I’m not sure

[@Leoslion02]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/on_WdH2Ma7yqrLs

[@Kenzoah]

It’s kinda character dependent for your c stick, also not that you asked me, but I use my L2 as a jump instead of a second shield bc it’s easier to turn and Bair with characters like palu joker Roy etc. not to mention I only shield with R2 so I didn’t need to buttons anyway

[@lukepent9990]

I'm pretty sure he uses the default controls

[@jessevaldes5954]

he has a whole video about this

[@justanotherguy7107]

With Roy and Marth, the problem with it was that Roys attacks are slower, and the hitboxes end on the same frame of animations, so Roys attacks just stop having hitboxes halfway through. Game and watch in melee also had the same run speed, weight, and jump height as mario.

[@doublecrate2490]

no, weight was different, you're mistaking it with falling speed

[@ThaTrickstaProd]

they also completely downgraded meta knights ladder recently. most meta knight ladders are no longer combos after the nerf and it is virtually impossible to kill someone

[@tylerbrown9631]

This was really educational, and helped me realize why I like Brawl so much.

[@charleschimchar3609]

ZeRo's becoming a reaction channel

[@julianboverhof5382]

Cuz corona

[@allenelijah7063]

@bruh moment #69,420 Definitely not before ultimate came out

[@christroyer69]

Allen Elijah Because he was busy playing competitive Smash 4 before he realized he could make moneh faster and easier by just streaming/making KZbin vids 🙄

[@MattTOB618]

16:01 "Most meaningless difference between a fighter and their echo is between Pit and Dark Pit" That is objectively not true. Peach and Daisy are so similar that, when a difference WAS found (namely, the difference in the knockback growth of their turnips), it got PATCHED OUT.

[@mattcorso4664]

I freakin love Heeew. I wish he uploaded more often tho he’s so funny

[@longthornhenderson331]

Same

[@josephassiryani9174]

Ditto

[@masierity2917]

He’s amazing, but it’s hard to pump out funny and informational content like he does (albeit not often!)

[@iyaguex]

Immediate comment

[@chromso]

@@masierity2917 we are still lurkin in the dark for some lil piece of content

[@JamesTaylor6]

Zero react videos are the best. Unlike other channels he doesn't use the video he's reacting to as the main component of the video rather as a starting point for him to talk about certain topics he can give a good insight into.

[@AffyMoon]

What's broken is the smash community rn. And my heart

[@AffyMoon]

@John Stonik y'know, some people don't read every single comment before typing a comment

[@sadied0g]

18:55 as a melee player, I was enjoying smash 4 for the first 3 or so months of the game. One of the tournies I went to, went up against a lucario, up 1-0, boutta close out the 2-0. He back airs (?) and kills me ~30% while he’s at 150+. Same scenario game 3, I’m boutta win and die to a back air sub 50. I went back to melee

[@CreepyConnor]

Zero: the most similar echos are pit and dark pit The belmonts: *am i a joke to you?*

[@thatrandomfailure9208]

Hey, they have different down bs

[@Snowballsage]

10:36 the way spikes work in melee is that moves that send you straight down can have their hitstun cancelled by using jump or up b(aka meteor cancelling). However, marth and falco’s down airs don’t send you straight down, meaning they can’t be meteor cancelled.

[@avityou234]

Last time I was this early zero was going to tournaments, Oh wait..

[@_SodaZ]

You are too early lol

[@Chirichiriden]

So last month

[@christianz4230]

This has to be one of my favorite videos of this channel, I learned a lot from other smash games and mechanics that I didn't know about and it made me see some other smash games in a different perspective, nice video Zero :D

[@ununun9995]

"A delayed game is eventually good but a rushed game is bad forever" Melee: haha dashdance go swoosh

[@alex_likes_games2796]

It's f e a t u r e

[@Synthiox1]

I love how you upload videos that are longer than 10-15 minutes... more content per day. keep it up

[@aangpro01]

Zero : Posts Everyone: Rushes straight to the comments

[@MegaSnek97]

Dejà vu anyone? To me it is.

[@catharcact2]

The main issue between Melee Roy and Marth is that Roy was given Marth's animations for attacks but slightly slower for each attack on Roy, but the developers forgot to move the active frames of each attack accordingly. Hence, for example, Roy's dash attack has its hitbox on the tackle before the swing as opposed to during the actual swing itself, as it's using Marth's frame data as the reference for when the hitbox should be active. Nice video as always though! Was a treat to watch.

[@Driff97]

24:23 Cold Hard FACTS

[@Endershock1678]

Let's be honest here, trip was mildly annoying, but rage was straight up the jankiest, most broken mechanic in the game. It singlehandedly shot several characters into top tier and gave them insane early kills off the top and side that was absolutely not fair. It's still in Ultimate, but normalized to where I don't die at 20 to an up air (God, imagine Ultimate Ganondorf with Smash 4 Rage).

[@thatrandomfailure9208]

@@Endershock1678 lets not give people nightmares ok? Like, how about no?

[@sirhawkjames]

As much as I miss the daily zero content, he was talking about not being able to take a break and I'm glad he's able to do that

[@carrotdollars7363]

Ice climbers evolve their combo throughout the smash games they appear in

[@HeckHammer]

As an icies main I agree ;)

[@Snowballsage]

Argentum same

[@masterofyolo6102]

Jr. Pudding icies are the smoothest character (change my mind)

[@PengyDraws]

@@masterofyolo6102 Pac man

[@masterofyolo6102]

Slightly Artsy does pac man have a 0 to death that looks like your breaking the matrix but I can imagine pac man with the hydrant and throwing stuff

[@davidisgaming1011]

These are some of my favorite smash videos. Really cool to see ZeRo react to them. 👍👍

[@StickMaster500]

I think regardless of what characters should get buffed or nerfed, we can definitely all agree that at least we have balance patches to make the games less broken since Smash 4. *I’m looking at you Meta Knight.*

[@wesguyer4182]

Yuh

[@TrueAsh4337]

Watch how his expression changes to unhappy as soon as he started watching Smash 4

[@csMRHERO]

Nobody: Me when ZeRo speaks spanish: *nuts* Also me remembering that ZeRo is actually Chilean: *se va cortao*

[@cruellsfelipedonoso6109]

His spanish sound soo... fake xd I mean I get it, he has live in the eeuu for a long time, but as a Chilean myself, i found it hilarious xdddd

[@notoriousthief]

Roy's attacks are meant to be slower, but they did not fix the attacks to be adjusted to the new speed. As a result, the attack hitbox frame is shorter. AsumSaus has more info in all these.

[@SOSAqua]

Peach and daisy DID have a difference at the beginning of the game. Peach's turnips had lower base knockback and more knockback growth, and daisy had more base knockback and less knockback growth. The reason why nobody knew this is because it was patched out days after it was discovered.

[@nyon7209]

They still have a difference... barely. Their animations are slightly different, so Peach tends to have a slightly taller and thinner hitbox. How often does this matter? Probably never. The turnips, while true, was also a mistake; Daisy's turnips used the data from Smash 4, and they forgot to update them alongside Peach's.

[@darmani_ssb]

Anyone else is a trashcan at smash but loves to watch Zero? tbh I am a casual, and I just love his videos cuz' the topics he speaks about aren't about how good you are, it's just fun stuff about life or smash stuff that isn't THAT associated to competitve smash. Nice content dude, keep it up.

[@milos1967]

Really enjoy this take on reaction content. I think it's interesting to see someone who's really good at the game comment on this stuff. It's like that accent coach who comments on performed accents in different movies.

[@Dachi40]

I’ll give props to him, managed to drag out all the other content long enough to get to this. That’s really good planning!

[@simon-ricardokuhn1713]

I don't care what everyone says, SSB4 will still have a place in my heart. That was the Smash game I played and enjoyed the most. (what's with KZbin having broken lines?) But the thing that really pissed me off and could be called broken is the AI in Brawl. Seriously, these guys always go after the player, even in a FFA. Whoever made the AI in this game need to be fired.

[@edwardrobinson5470]

That's awesome. I enjoyed Brawl and 4 3ds the most. Ya the ai will gang up on the player in brawl a lot.

[@AnonYmouSchris19]

After the Terry patch the a.i. goes after the player even more than brawl on lvl 8-9.

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

Seeing zero laughing at all of the funny broken stuff is funnier than what is going on on screen

[@Billbobs678]

Yeah

[@Thundeenuggies]

4:20 ZeRo: I hate that ladder combo so much Me: Maybe its because thats the ladder combo nairo used that made u loose ur smash 4 winning streak

[@simeondee8179]

420 lmao

[@Ewan-xw3er]

@@simeondee8179 you aren't funny

[@Brian-oe8dm]

420 nice

[@mamacherry4297]

@@Ewan-xw3er 420 lmao

[@Thundeenuggies]

@@Ewan-xw3er 420 lmao

[@germanazurin1501]

14:22 I like how Game and Watch went from the worst shield in Melee to one of the best with his ridiculous up B out of shield

[@swellsauceFourNumbers]

"If they gave it more development, maybe the game would not be as glitchy as it is." OH GOD. It's Sonic 06 all over again.

[@user-gr9kh2jv2f]

To the extent of my knowledge the reasoning for roys hitbox issues that that they slowed down his animations without slowing down the hit boxes resulting in hit boxes coming out too early and disappearing to early

[@mastermoes3651]

So if everything is broken, doesn't that technically mean everything is the way it's meant to be?

[@Beautifulconnyxime]

You are onto some big brain shit

[@victorpena8356]

zero bounces so much when he talk that makes me anxious, just chill man

[@Eribow]

Zero sees little Mac in bottom tier: Also Zero: You sure about that

[@theStridingRebel]

The only reason Mac is "bottom tier" is because nobody know the trick to Mac, he's a boxer, Doc Louis even says this in his reveal trailer from smash 4 "you're no air fighter Mac!" He's meant to stay on the ground and play safe, wait for an opening and then strike, just like in his games, not to do crazy arial combos. As long as you remain grounded, you are pretty much guaranteed a win

[@isaacflask]

This was very entertaining, good job to both ZeRo and the editing team!

[@ricksta_k]

*ZeRo sees Diddy throwing 2 Bananas* "HAHAHAHAHA! memories..."

[@ensanesane]

Was hoping for "if you hated olimar in ultimate..." Cries in 6 Pikmin

[@Snowballsage]

*ZeRo sees himself get laddered by bayo* “NOOOOOOOOO”

[@h4yden480]

You should do a video were you play all the smash inspired games and explain why some failed and some lived

[@shadoweddragonfilms4424]

"I hate Lucario in Smash 4 with such a passion!" Tsu weeps.

[@antiamourshiper8477]

I hate Rem with a passion.

[@umbre8727]

16:00 "Pit and Dark Pit are the least different echoes" Press X for Doubt I mean, Daisy and Peach literally are the same cahracter and Samus and Dark Samus dont have much differences either

[@doublecrate2490]

samus is taller than dark samus, its hurtbox is different, dark samus's attacks are electrical, while samus's are fire and dark samus has better acceleration

[@umbre8727]

@@doublecrate2490 That's less difference than two moves being completely different

[@doublecrate2490]

@@umbre8727 one is kind of similar? i think they both equalize

[@Endershock1678]

If you're doing Smash Analysts, can you look at Mockrock. I love his content and I feel his videos cover things many don't talk about like Niche Maps or Character Archetypes. I would also love to hear your response to his most well designed characters video and his yearly character introspective.

[@math_no7317]

I can assure you, chrom's up B still is that good. Chrom's spike still spike the opponent first. It just happens at later percents and weight

[@esqimo6647]

“Nana now does a taunt when you throw” Yeah. Except we have cheer cancelling now, to stop this. Fun. And we have a jab infinite on small characters, as well as infinites in yoshi, gnw, puff and paisy.

[@maxorritt9403]

yoooo loved this zero, almost felt like i was playing the old smash games myself, big love

[@Kookie_K1d]

Imagine smash 4 rage in ultimate with some characters killing so early (Gannon, joker, etc)

[@pastelpixelp]

joker would be unstoppable with rage

[@radiolarity]

Marth into Roy in melee comes down to the fact that generally speaking Roy's animations are slower but he has the same hitbox flags as Marth. So when Roy's attack will be like a few frames slower, the hitbox will disappear at the same timing's as Marth move. Hence that dash attack whiffs on Fox in the example. The hitbox is gone halfway through the move, which on Marth would be the end of his move, from whom was the framedata directly ported.

[@Bung-ms9jc]

Big brain time?

[@zombotany3443]

So this is how it ends... no more videos because of what he has done in the past. I never thought I would ever see a youtuber end like this. I was subbed for a good bit and learned a bit to, but it is sad to see this channel go. It sucks that he wont be making more videos, but I guess that is for the best since it would probably do more harm then good, especially if he made one of those over done apology videos. Soon even this comment section will be gone, which is for the best, I guess. It is good that he had gotten caught, I just wish he didn't have to stop making videos because of it. At least he seems sorry for what he did, but that doesn't mean that it justifies what he did in the past. Instead of kicking him while he is down (even though he most likely doesn't look at the comments anymore for obvious reasons) and saying good riddance, I will say adios, it was good seeing your videos. You were one of my favorites.

[@zentazym1]

I like his content, but come on man. You’re making it sound like he had harmless fun in the past and now he’s in trouble for something he shouldn’t be in trouble for. If he would’ve come clean immediately, he’d probably still have his channel, and sure, he’d have probably put out a cringy apology video, but that’s just the way it goes now. Instead, he denied everything until he couldn’t anymore, and probably kept the information regarding circle of smash pedos that got exposed under the radar to save his own skin.

[@zombotany3443]

@@zentazym1 I know he did something bad, but that doesn't mean he deserves as much hate as he has gotten.

[@zentazym1]

Zombotany Did he even get that much hate though? Every video I’ve seen is sympathetic for him because he’s getting therapy.

[@zombotany3443]

@@zentazym1 ... you should look at the comments for the first video he uploaded then and sort comments by newest. The hate has cooled down and I posted this comment when he was getting a lot of hate. I get why people are angry, it is perfectly reasonable, but they don't have to make it know to someone who already knows what they did was wrong. Like I said though, what he did was awful, I do agree.

[@zentazym1]

Zombotany I mean sure, his most recent videos got a lot of negative comment, but they don’t even have that bad of a like to dislike ratio. It’s not like a ProJared situation, where he was publicly exposed for (supposed, but not true in retrospect) his sexual exploits and had the entire internet after him for months, the top youtubers in the community making videos mocking him, he lost like hundreds of thousands of subscribers, and yatta yatta. Zero got off easy tbh. Besides negative comments on a few of his newer videos, the worst thing that happened was getting banned from Twitch. What he did probably should’ve gotten some jail time even. All that being said, I’d say give it a year (or less) and he’ll be back on KZbin. Things blow over fast on the internet. People might care and attack him for his first video or two, but it’ll be like nothing happened at the end of the day. It’s not like he even lost subs, so whatever he does will likely be successful.

[@MegaSnek97]

ZeRo ACTUALLY reacted to Heeew's Super Smash Bros. is broken videos. Wow! I'm genuinely surprised that Pokémon Trainer's wish came true on Day 1.

[@ZCatt]

It's because Roy's attacks are slower, but the frames the sword hitboxes are active are the same.

[@Snowballsage]

6:09 to those of you who don’t know why this chain grab exists, in brawl, you always get ground released if you are pummeled as you are released and because marth has a really fast pummel, you always get ground released if they just mash pummel and Lucas and ness had unreasonably high lag from their ground release.

[@tommil_ssb3165]

If Nintendo just fixed online ultimate would be perfect, it would also be cool if they rereleased melee and brawl with minor changes to fix all the infinite’s and too janky things

[@saricubra2867]

Also lower the input lag in Ultimate and fix the buffer system, that also adds to the Online's laggy nature.

[@saricubra2867]

Brawl was already patched by Project M.

[@tommil_ssb3165]

Star masterc Yea the buffer system is one of the other few problems with ultimate, and Project M was made by someone else not Nintendo, it was basically just melee brawl

[@greylepoard]

improve the buffer system, reduce input lag, make movement smoother, improve the whiff punish game/reduce number of safe options, add a few more input options AND fix online and it's the perfect smash game (they'll never do this though because that's an insane amount of work and costs a lot of money)

[@curiosityman3704]

10:44 A little bit of a correction so as to not confuse people. Marth's Tipper Dair was changed to a Meteor. Meteors are the term used for moves that could be "Meteor Cancelled" so it was actually changed from a Spike in NTSC to a Meteor in PAL. These two terms in Melee as a result are not interchangeable since it has BOTH Meteors AND Spikes. In 64, Smash 4, & Ultimate, there is NO Meteor Cancelling whatsoever so everything would be considered a Spike. In Brawl, they are ALL Meteor Cancellable, making them all Meteors. Although whereas in Melee you could Meteor Cancel as soon as Frame 8, for the most part in Brawl, the soonest you can Meteor Cancel is usually Frame 25. Heavily nerfed compared to Melee. Although certain characters with Tethers could Meteor Cancel earlier (around Frame 15), certain characters with Multiple couldn't Meteor Cancel till even lter (Frame 30 or 32), and then there's Wolf who for some reason can't Meteor Cancel till Frame 60.

[@theprotector995]

Small Brain: Brawl and Smash 4 are broken Big Brain: Melee is broken Ascended Brain: All smash games are broken. Einstein Brain: It's relative to how you define 'Broken'. Panpsychic Brain: I lost because my controller was broken.

[@jjjmac479]

When zero says words with emphasis on the incorrect sylable like category and reminisce... Me: Time to start saying those words like ZeRo does... its god-like

[@Boopenpop]

This is amazing! These videos are great!

[@Boopenpop]

I meant the videos Heeew made. All of them are amazing and hilarious.

[@brutal_lui]

I love ladder combos, being a Meta Knight main in ultimate with a Palu secondary. In brawl I mained Lucario and with my secondary MK and lastly I mained Diddy and Cloud being my secondary. I still love your content for your insight and wisdom, I "bet" you change a lot, from your childhood till back then 11 months ago and most definitely now. Have a good one

[@uniquedetour7534]

we miss u zero

[@MaxAndChees3]

If I had a nickel for every time I lost a brawl game competitively because of tripping, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice