[TESLORE] The Elder Scrolls #2: Origin of Elder Scrolls Universe: The Creation Myth; The Dawn Era.

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Zaric Zhakaron

Zaric Zhakaron

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@clarksmith7462
@clarksmith7462 9 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best description of elder scrolls lore. It breaks the difficult concepts down into easily understandable examples, as well as the use of diagrams to help explain what happened. Also the fact that you're not 17 years old or younger, sound like a stoner, or keep tripping over your own words helps understand things a TON.
@nintindofandarklink
@nintindofandarklink 8 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with sounding 17? I'm 17 bitch, what's the issue?
@MrEpeeFencer
@MrEpeeFencer 7 жыл бұрын
You just answered your own question.
@ConeTheBoss559
@ConeTheBoss559 7 жыл бұрын
yep
@i-papiseacucumberi-3278
@i-papiseacucumberi-3278 7 жыл бұрын
ironic
@mihawkdracule8551
@mihawkdracule8551 7 жыл бұрын
can only agree to that, though I don't quite get where the other spirits (like Magnus) emerge from...
@HQ_Default
@HQ_Default 8 жыл бұрын
The beginning feels like a high school science course. Only, for a fictional universe. "Well you see kids, it all started with THE BIG MERGE!"
@arx3516
@arx3516 4 жыл бұрын
It feels more like Parmenides philosophy.
@darianahmed1401
@darianahmed1401 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it is pretty off topic but do anybody know a good site to watch new movies online ?
@braxtonmoses2137
@braxtonmoses2137 3 жыл бұрын
@Darian Ahmed Flixportal :D
@darianahmed1401
@darianahmed1401 3 жыл бұрын
@Braxton Moses Thanks, I went there and it seems like a nice service :D Appreciate it !
@braxtonmoses2137
@braxtonmoses2137 3 жыл бұрын
@Darian Ahmed you are welcome :)
@mikaeladeleon7128
@mikaeladeleon7128 8 жыл бұрын
I love the shoddycast version but I feel like yours is so much more in deapth. thanks so much for posting this series!
@antonderitu1877
@antonderitu1877 7 жыл бұрын
Yea
@rosamariabarillari1549
@rosamariabarillari1549 7 жыл бұрын
well, shoddy cast is shit at lore
@DragonessYT
@DragonessYT 6 жыл бұрын
Well... Shoddycast is just a baby's first steps into lore
@SamucaGamer100
@SamucaGamer100 4 жыл бұрын
The people that comment on ShoddyCast videos are very uninformed about the lore too. And just uninformed about the games too lol, most of them just played skyrim or oblivion
@readthiscomment6748
@readthiscomment6748 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. This is more complicated than a vsauce video.
@johnrussell701
@johnrussell701 8 жыл бұрын
wow that video was like doing mushrooms
@starclast7729
@starclast7729 3 жыл бұрын
Way better than anyone else tryin to explain this. great work
@kinangarciarodriguez3428
@kinangarciarodriguez3428 8 жыл бұрын
Beginning was a bit confusing with such similar names and beings but I'm determined to comprehend tes lore
@avekrso285
@avekrso285 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like iv watched many different youtubers explain their versions of the ES Lore, but I feel like Zarics would be the most accurate and the most intellectualy interpreted version out there. I suggest everyone watches and then compares to what other people have said, its very interesting at the very least
@kingvince7328
@kingvince7328 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't this make lorkhan and sithis the good guys?
@imotekh6110
@imotekh6110 5 жыл бұрын
As any true man of culture would see
@the_rose_garden01
@the_rose_garden01 4 жыл бұрын
Praise Sithis is all I'm hearing
@madgreensonunbound5801
@madgreensonunbound5801 4 жыл бұрын
Vaguely? I guess it depends on how you feel about the existence of the world?
@mathanfetamina1288
@mathanfetamina1288 4 жыл бұрын
We have some really cool games with an interesting lore, all thanks to them.
@raaaaaaaaaam496
@raaaaaaaaaam496 3 жыл бұрын
@@ming45612 kinda they are a lot like the faceless men from ASOIAF. They arent necessarily evil just carrying out the will of the God of death. Just like the brotherhood are with the night men. The difference being the brotherhood revel in their position and do it for materialist reasons.
@Deehvad
@Deehvad 9 жыл бұрын
I just love this nerdy stuff, I am eating this up right now. I love how well constructed ES lore is in its inconsistency... it makes it feel so much more realistic and immersive. Good job so far, keep it up.
@grle7407
@grle7407 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question, when you look at the night sky in skyrim and oblivion you can see the galactic plane, which suggests that Nirn is on the edge of a spiral galaxy, is there an explenation for that?
@XuntosIzor
@XuntosIzor 5 жыл бұрын
It's like how some Americans think that Satan put fossils in the ground to trick people into thinking the Earth is billions of years old instead of a few thousand. Maybe the patterns in space just look like a galaxy but is actually just an incidental design left over from the spirits following Magnus out of Mundus. I like to think that there are two ways to interpret Elder Scrolls lore, one is to take it as it is literally, or assume they are actually a planet orbiting a star in a galaxy somewhere and these are just their myths the same way there are many creation myths on Earth
@willothewisp4939
@willothewisp4939 2 жыл бұрын
The developers used a generic skybox resource
@dagothur3592
@dagothur3592 2 жыл бұрын
@@XuntosIzor I like the idea that the "gods" are myths, but I don't think that holds up once you take into account how you can interact with them in all of the games.
@___.51
@___.51 2 жыл бұрын
@@willothewisp4939 this is the correct answer, unfortunately 🤦🏽‍♂️ 💀
@willothewisp4939
@willothewisp4939 2 жыл бұрын
@@___.51 Honestly, as far as inconsistencies go I'm fine with this one. But jesus does Elder Scrolls love canning badass lore. :(((
@reffa2858
@reffa2858 4 жыл бұрын
This lore is insanely deep. I dont know why it isnt exesersized it the modern games.
@marektengler6033
@marektengler6033 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I watched fair share of ESO lore videos, but this is first where I finally understood creation myth... no srsly, the fact that you have visual aid while explaining those concepts is reaaaly helpful.
@Flight_of_Icarus
@Flight_of_Icarus 7 жыл бұрын
Shoddycast's lore series told me everything I already knew. This is getting into some next level stuff I only had cursory knowledge of.
@MHWdJ
@MHWdJ 8 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen this interpretation of auri-el, akatosh and alduïn before, but I like it a lot. time is often described to have begun with auri-el or akatosh, witch could be an easy mistranslation, while on the other en alduïn is described as "world eater". they are all the same in origin, but are separate now.
@ryuxay
@ryuxay 8 жыл бұрын
MHWdJ what? explain? Im still new to lore
@MHWdJ
@MHWdJ 8 жыл бұрын
Shaq And A Rat what part needs explaining? Elderscrolls lore is exrremely complex. not only is there a lotbof it, it also tends to contradict itself. incase you don't know: akatosh is the time god and primery god of the imperial pantheon. Auri-el is also a time god and the primary god of the elven pantheon. AND, most notably, their ancestor. alduin is considered a time ending god, and appears in ancient nordic pantheon (although I think some other pantheon mentions him or something like him too) the three are often mistakingly considered one and the same by mortals in this universe.
@ryuxay
@ryuxay 8 жыл бұрын
MHWdJ so theyre seprate,.I know alduin is for sure. But in video he didnt talk about akatosh, which confused me a bit. Isnt akatosh a planet too?
@MHWdJ
@MHWdJ 8 жыл бұрын
Shaq And A Rat all of the original 8 devines are said to be planets. So that would include akatosh yes. I'm not sure if the ninth (talos) has a planet though. he technically already has the moons. those moons are the remnents of lohrkan, who's place he took in the pantheon. (sorry, this last bit had little to do with your question) akatosh, alduin and auri-el are sepperate, but could be 3 aspects of the same being. They atleast have some relation: they have a purpose to do with time. but I'm getting speculative at this point.
@ryuxay
@ryuxay 8 жыл бұрын
MHWdJ oh, i think I got it
@Parsley-pr9sv
@Parsley-pr9sv 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my God I have to admit you are my all-time favorite lore Channel on KZbin you really covered everything in full detail and I love your presentations seriously man I love your channel keep up the work and just so you know you’re inspiring me to have my own ideas lolol
@kingvince7328
@kingvince7328 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Shenkosky Honestly after watching several lore videos and finally coming to my conclusion on this one, I have to ask: doesn't this mean that lorkhan and sithis are the good guys and auri-el and the aedra are false gods? I've watched several videos on the beginning and they all point to this.
@Flow86767
@Flow86767 5 жыл бұрын
Imperials scholars suggested that the only forms of lives existed in Tamriel. Uriel Septim V : *My conquest of Akavir didn’t even made ya’ll learn...*
@SuperJ96744
@SuperJ96744 9 жыл бұрын
wow too much for my little brain! *head explodes
@JudisFeggutGhost
@JudisFeggutGhost 8 жыл бұрын
Being a year late to the party is fashionable right? Anyways, I'm wondering what the agency of Daedra are in reference to Lorkhan himself. Are all daedra created from Sithis or is this an ambiguous thing that we don't have solid proof to determine? Do they like him, know him to be an indirect creator of them? Are Daedra nothing more than a namesake? And finally does this make kyne less aedric and more daedric?
@JudisFeggutGhost
@JudisFeggutGhost 8 жыл бұрын
Alright, so its more a mortal categorical namesake invented by elves to simplify religion, got it. I'm still interested on the moral agency of Kyne then, since shes married to sithis's third essence cousin thing. This makes her more like the night mother than any other god.
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 7 жыл бұрын
JudisFeggutGhost daedra comes from the Altmer language meaning "not ancestor" because aedra meant ancestor. Daedra are the beings that didnt take part in the creation of Mundus. Why there is ao little i do not know. But i think that all the weaker daedra (atronachs, scamps, dremora etc.) were the supposedly "countless" spirits that didnt help woth the creation of Mundus and the Daedric Princes were the spirits to first gain that "awareness" that this guy talks about. I dont know which Daedra and Aedra spefically came from Lorkhan or Auriel, but i think the ones in Oblivion who command their planes govern space and so they probably came from Lorkhan. And they most likely did since it was Lorkhans plan to trick the other spirits into making Nirn and his followers didnt help much.
@malek0093
@malek0093 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch this video, I think of a friend who once told me Dark Souls lore is much deeper than ES lore. That's still the most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard
@pizzapicante27
@pizzapicante27 9 жыл бұрын
This is the Mer interpretation isnt it?, Interesting to note how the Lore masters at Bethesda took the time to make each culture's interpretation of these events different but basically similar, makes the lore all the more interesting not knowing if anyone is really completely right.
@paulreeves8594
@paulreeves8594 9 жыл бұрын
+pizzapicante27 HhehHEHEehEHEH Go TO trutHcoNteSTcoM, ERaD the pRESent
@QubeZ-one
@QubeZ-one 11 ай бұрын
But if Alduin is just a shard of Aka like Auri-El and Akatosh, why does he so proudly mention to be the firstborn of Akatosh? How does that make sense?
@jmdb7895
@jmdb7895 6 жыл бұрын
About the beginning of all things, I have always understood it like this: In the beginning, there was a cosmic mind (The Skaal's All-maker, or the void, according to other mythologies, or the godhead, according to OOG). This cosmic mind has always known everything, and has the potential to use that information to freely choose to do something with it. At some point, this mind decided to take this information that has permanently existed in it (this information in some myths is called ANU) and by exercising its free will (what some call PADOMAY in some myths), decided to use it to create something (the Aurbis ). That is, the whole "anu" and "padomay" issue is a figure of speech that tries to describe a mental dynamic within the godhead. The result of the above is the creation of Aurbis, where the most fundamental pieces are time (called Anui-el) and space (called Sithis). The first thinking beings created by this cosmic mind were Aka (the deity who has dominion over time) and Lorkhan (the deity who has dominion over space), and through them, the other original spirits were emerging.
@edufilho9245
@edufilho9245 8 жыл бұрын
So, when you use bloodcursed elven arrow to shoot at the sun, you're actually shooting at Aetherius?
@ThePompousAltmer
@ThePompousAltmer 7 жыл бұрын
Plus the metaphysical aspects of TES lore makes the universe of TES more fleshed out and believable.
@Apollo-of8eb
@Apollo-of8eb 9 жыл бұрын
hi zaric i enjoy how you got all of this information of how its history of how the elderscrolls universe i believe you can be just like shoddy cast i fully support you
@marckpin2091
@marckpin2091 4 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely Beautiful, The best explanation ever. Oh God I wish I could translate these words into my language to bring this knowledge to all of my native speakers collegues
@David_Alvarez77
@David_Alvarez77 7 жыл бұрын
Empirically then, Old Aldmeris and the roots for the Altmer claim that they are descended from the original spirits are missing without a trace. I definitely sounds like the Imperial scholars are onto something legitimate when they cast doubt on the exalted origin myths of the allegedly high elves. Really great series!
@MALWylie
@MALWylie 5 жыл бұрын
So, would Aka being shattered mean that Lorkhan/Talos is the most supreme of the gods, or is there someone greater?
@evansmith6197
@evansmith6197 9 жыл бұрын
I commented on your last lore video. Lightly put, I had some problems with it. I genuinely liked this one. The nuances you've brought in and explained are really nice to see in a KZbin lore vid that doesn't ramble. That said... d00d. Quit with the MK hate. Hahahaha. 90% of the stuff you draw from, with no problem, is his writing. The Towers are REALLY important. Like, that's THE way for the Elves to ascend, which you mentioned. Things I hope to see with future videos: 1. Furthered conversation about Aldmeris as a shared place in metaphysical memory that links all elves. Something like a place among infinity that they Walked to Tamriel from as they descended to mortality. 2. A lickle bit about Y'ffre and his/her existence in the Valenwood (am curious to see what you think of it)
@Sothas
@Sothas 9 жыл бұрын
+Evan Smith I didn't realize you commented already and one of your things you said was one of my things i said. Further evidence of the Enantiomorph. Zaric, as Evan said, the Towers are important in what you were talking about. Ada-Mantia as the point of Convention, Red-Heart as the Tower of Lorkhan's Heart, and the ascension of Auriel in front of the Aldmer. With that said, I can understand how you would leave it out of a creation story and then reference this video later when you bring it up.
@evansmith6197
@evansmith6197 9 жыл бұрын
+Zaric Zhakaron .... You talk down at me. I really don't appreciate it.
@ysmirwulfharth4012
@ysmirwulfharth4012 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Smith he actually did not...🤔
@HueghMungus
@HueghMungus 6 жыл бұрын
So High Elfs are *Really* the masterrace. No wonder they're so pompous! They stayed true to their divinity and as such kept their essense. This explains why they can live so long. Not saying wondering Ehlnofey were wrong in adventuring, but maybe if they did with utmost awareness, they could've kept their essense as well...? Anyways this is so mindblowing for a mere mortal to comprehend :D
@handy207
@handy207 8 жыл бұрын
Old aldmeris = alantis?
@nofeel4112
@nofeel4112 8 жыл бұрын
kind of
@handy207
@handy207 8 жыл бұрын
karim chikoure For sure a referance to it
@GorillaWhey
@GorillaWhey 8 жыл бұрын
Lost Civilizations is a common trope.
@OverlordZephyros
@OverlordZephyros 7 жыл бұрын
wouldnt it be Yokuda? .. since that continent sunk like Atlantis?
@Erox006
@Erox006 7 жыл бұрын
wtf is "alantis" ?
@ulkem
@ulkem 8 жыл бұрын
Wow this was really hard to take all in at once even though I did heard the story's pieces here and there.
@avatarkai4947
@avatarkai4947 8 жыл бұрын
Hi! Congratulations on this series of videos. Very informative. I was wandering when does the division of the "planets" happened. It is said in some sources, even with images of it, that the 8 divines where unable to return to aetherius... and so they sattle as Planets and Moons around Nirn. Is it true or is it another thing entirely?
@Aramithius
@Aramithius 8 жыл бұрын
AvatarKai I read it that the plane(t)s of the Eight Gift-Limbs are mortal interpretations/comprehensions of the various spirits' remnants, in the same way that the night sky on Mundus is the way the mortal mind processes Oblivion. But I could be wrong there.
@billtnp3875
@billtnp3875 8 жыл бұрын
Aka's place in the mythic as the soul on Anu was replace by Anui-El, but his place as the time god was replaced by Auri-El then by Akatosh.
@muzumaki619
@muzumaki619 9 жыл бұрын
Episode 2:2Chim2Handle
@Landon783
@Landon783 6 жыл бұрын
Simply fascinating! Great job on the research and presentation :D
@bowiesensei5574
@bowiesensei5574 5 жыл бұрын
A reminder that I love your work.
@badaiyo
@badaiyo 9 жыл бұрын
Great video can't wait for more.
@BurgerFred1
@BurgerFred1 9 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Just have one question: Did the concept that all humans and animals and plants come from the Ehlnofey help create the shamanist/animistic religion of the ancient Nords, as is seen in the Skaal, as well as the Dragon Cult (which spawned from their animistic beliefs)?
@BurgerFred1
@BurgerFred1 9 жыл бұрын
What about the Skaal, though? To me (my headcanon) the Skaal on Solstheim are the purest preservation of old Nordic religion, since they were not at all affected by the polytheistic beliefs of the elves because of their isolation on Solstheim. These animistic concepts were present in Bloodmoon, showing that it wasn't entirely to create a puzzle system in ES V (although it could have possibly been Flanderized to meet their desires). EDIT: He kinda answered my question about the Skaal before I could respond. But I would still kinda like to know more about the relation between these beliefs and the creation of the Dragon Cult.
@kingvince7328
@kingvince7328 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid man. Also doesn't this make the aedra false gods? Kinda cool honestly. Nice vid bro.
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 7 жыл бұрын
7:31 in Skyrim didn't they say that the sun is Akatoshs, or AurIELs, connection from Aetherius to Mundus?
@Reinhardt1881
@Reinhardt1881 9 жыл бұрын
ur doing an awesome job m8. Keep up the good work!
@shawnn188
@shawnn188 9 жыл бұрын
awesome vid looking forward to more vids like this
@andrewruscito2257
@andrewruscito2257 6 жыл бұрын
HOLY FUCKIN SHIT never thought elder scrolls would so well explain that feeling you get on acid. The metaphysical reffrences are astonishing
@wiwnwrestlingnews
@wiwnwrestlingnews 8 жыл бұрын
The God's Tale:​ ​ The God-Serpent: I will start this post by explaining the origin of existence in TES cosmology and the single being responsible for it, this being doesn't act directly within the TES series but is nonetheless extremely important due to being the foundation of the world. the gods and every single bit of metaphysics in the series (like mantling).​ This creator is the supreme being of the Elder Scrolls series and goes by many names some of which are: The One, the egg, The All-Maker, The Dreamer, Void, Satakal or Satakel the World-Serpent (this one is my personnal favorite), but it's mostly referred to as the Godhead.​ ​ Still it would be wrong to think of this being as a deliberate creator like the Christian God, Satakel bears more similarities to Azathoth or the Lord of Nightmares than it does to Yahweh in that it's creation of the world was not all that deliberate.​ ​ Here's a passage from Satakal the World-skin, the Yokudan creation myth of the in-game book the monomyth (seen in Skyrim, , Morrowind and TESO):​ "Satak was First Serpent, the Snake who came Before, and all the worlds to come rested in the glimmer of its scales. But it was so big there was nothing but, and thus it was coiled around and around itself, and the worlds to come slid across each other but none had room to breathe or even be" Anu and Padomay are one of the survivors of the original 12 worlds of creation?
@xavierc7352
@xavierc7352 7 жыл бұрын
Wrong, Yahweh is not even a name.
@yabahal-fakher7992
@yabahal-fakher7992 7 жыл бұрын
Ruby Rose Yahweh is from the avatar movie. Bruh. This is a dumb comment to show where teen jump to conclusion s. aka me
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 6 жыл бұрын
Y’all are both morons. Yahweh is the Jewish God.
@unsubme2157
@unsubme2157 6 жыл бұрын
Youre all idiots, yahweh is the final enemy in bleach
@Super50ldier
@Super50ldier 2 жыл бұрын
@@xavierc7352 Yehweh is one of God's names.
@123nicanor
@123nicanor 7 жыл бұрын
ES became more interesting to play and re-play the more i get to know the lore, making it also more enjoyable making your own lore on the character you will play every playthrough ^^ Time to play as a Godzilla dragonborn this time xD xD
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 7 жыл бұрын
I was kinda hoping that he would also mention the God Pantheons such as the Tribunal or Divines, and the Daedra,
@scourgicus9543
@scourgicus9543 9 жыл бұрын
There are...quite a lot...of things I'd push back on here. Still, I appreciate what you're trying to do.
@scourgicus9543
@scourgicus9543 9 жыл бұрын
+Zaric Zhakaron It is indeed from The Fountain. I hear you. That's a challenge I'd accept. :-)
@raquzzic2
@raquzzic2 3 жыл бұрын
It's like a mixture of Zoroastrianism and scientology
@Geraduss
@Geraduss 8 жыл бұрын
Second time I watched this, so its a technicality question.. what about the Daedra? Where do they fit in to all of this? Are they part of Mundus or just the Oblivion, are they tied to the cyclical nature of the worlds reset button or do they remember each and every world that was? How come they can even enter the Mundus if they had no part in creating it and why can they influence it? And if the escaping Aedra tore holes through Oblivion to enter Aetherius, didn't that aversely affect Oblivion to? Why did the lesser daedra form like the Enhlofey did with the difference of mortality? And if there are whole worlds and dimensions in Oblivion with their own rules and laws then why didn't the original aedra do the same? Must have been easier to just have your own world just as big and populated as Mundus without sacrificing your self in the process of creating it?
@RustedBuddy5192
@RustedBuddy5192 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah he doesnt seem to talk about the Daedra too much, which I think is important even if they werent very active. From what I understand the Daedra didnt DO anything to create Mundus, which is why he skipped over it Im assuming, and are not bound by the laws of Mundus because of it. Like Umaril, when Daedra die in Mundus their spiritual essence goes back to their plane of oblivion. The only way to kill a Daedra is to kill them in their plane... Thats just what I understand though. Sorry I couldnt answer all of your questions.
@Geraduss
@Geraduss 8 жыл бұрын
Well as far as I know you CAN'T kill a Daedra period, even in the realms of oblivion they'll just reform again over time. The drawback of that is that they absolutely can't reproduce there is a finite "Energy" in oblivion that can't be added or retracted from.
@DepthsOfOcanthus
@DepthsOfOcanthus 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these!
@NepherionDraconian
@NepherionDraconian 7 жыл бұрын
ehlnofey has a nephilim ring to it , atrnoach being another word for golem aldmeris has an Atlantis ring to it
@freestyle1227
@freestyle1227 7 жыл бұрын
Literally best video on youtube from beggining of everything to the universe as we know it now. You just forgot to mention Godhead, and that whole TES universe is in a dream, I think that would be better to start everything with, but I think you did it intentionally.
@princesstinklepanties2720
@princesstinklepanties2720 4 жыл бұрын
Isnt the godhead c0da tier stuff tho?
@Max-xl5kx
@Max-xl5kx 7 жыл бұрын
Alduin is so badass in lore but in reality he is nothing. Man just look at mehrunes dagon nearly destroyed tamriel.
@nakenmil
@nakenmil 9 жыл бұрын
Even ignoring the Nu-Mantia Intercept, I think you're being inconsistent here. The Empire certainly held that Aldmeris never existed, however, I have never come across any such beliefs or propaganda regarding Yokuda, Atmora or Akavir. I'm curious regarding your source on these latter elements, as I've never seen that viewpoint be pushed before. I mean, Yokuda and Akavir *demonstrably* exist at least, if by no other fact than by that there was military contact with them withi the scope of written history. The Third Empire even went on to counter-invade Akavir, if I recall correctly (to disastrous result, but still). As for the Towers being more sci-fi than fantasy, I must admit I've never thought of that before, but that's a matter of taste I suppose. Personally, I think they explain rather a lot, so I like to include that into my own interpretation of the canon.
@thedarkmaster4747
@thedarkmaster4747 8 жыл бұрын
+Zaric Zhakaron "the most asinine way possible" LMAO! anyways for alyids and downwards... (uncoruptably so) this is pritty much bigotry justified.
@kylewilson5437
@kylewilson5437 8 жыл бұрын
+Zaric Zhakaron How would you explain the concept of the Towers, that would be an interesting fit into the lore? (I'm interested in your opinion, respectively)
@abuyinibndjadiralsharidi1806
@abuyinibndjadiralsharidi1806 9 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for it ^_^
@arx3516
@arx3516 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like they based this universe on greek philosophy, Anu reminds me of Parmenides Being, and Mundus looks like Aristotle's interpretation of the universe, with the stars being holes in the most externals sphere that ked the light of empireus to pass through.
@DANtheMANofSIPA
@DANtheMANofSIPA 8 жыл бұрын
I dont understand. Why does Aka not exist in our timeline? Does that mean that universes were made in separate universes? If he doesn't exist in our timeline, what timeline if any does he? Can someone explain this to me please?
@DANtheMANofSIPA
@DANtheMANofSIPA 8 жыл бұрын
Zaric Zhakaron Ah, I see. Thanks man
@jamesdavidson9327
@jamesdavidson9327 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Zaric what happened to your offensive skyrim series. did you delete it on dailymotion?
@jamesdavidson9327
@jamesdavidson9327 9 жыл бұрын
Alright man thanks for replying. Also thank you for making these vids. When I first played skyrim it was on the 360 so now I'm getting a PC. So now I can get started on what mods I could get. And now I know a bit more of the history of Tamriel.
@vtorres9263
@vtorres9263 8 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the song playing at the last couple of seconds of the video?
@antonyquigley5219
@antonyquigley5219 9 жыл бұрын
Oh... you did what i asked already lol. I have one question or observation that noone ever seems to talk about. In Skyrim for example. All the NPC's talk about "The bustling beautiful City of Whiterun". One thing i find funny about that title, is "CITY". When you think of City you think of a place like London, with 8 million people in it. Or smaller ones like where I';m from, with 50 thousand people in it. In the "City" of Whiterun, there's 19 buildings total lol. That in normal terms would be considered roughly the size of a roadside rest stop!
@swr3603
@swr3603 8 жыл бұрын
Things like that I take as unreliable memory. Like how some people explain fast travel as how when you go to work or school over and over sometimes you drive and get there and don't even remember the trip. Towns being portrayed as smaller in game could be taken as the in game character just not noticing everything and only latching onto some specific people, places, and things.
@SparksFly-vr4jm
@SparksFly-vr4jm 8 жыл бұрын
okay, a few questions. one: i've heard some talk about this"godhead" or "dreamer" theory. stating that there is a One True God in TES lore that made Anu and Padomey within his own dream and pulls the "real" strings of fate for all beings, is there any credit to this theory? or is this just another person's CODA or headcanon? two: another theory(often used alongside the godhead theory) says that Anu and Padomey have awareness and will, just like the lesser souls of Auri-El and Lorkahn. does this theory have any credibility? and three: the last of the three theories that are used together is the Amaranth theory of breaking out of the godhead or dreamer's dream and going to the "real world". often called the second state after CHIM that only Anu achieved, leaving behind his soul fragment in the Aurbus. what are your thoughts on these theories?
@SparksFly-vr4jm
@SparksFly-vr4jm 8 жыл бұрын
Zaric Zhakaron got it, it's more or less just like a lot of the other lore theories, it's not at all proven or canon, but has some credibility due to it's author. no real one objective truth. at least it makes making backstories for my characters fun. anyways i'll not ramble, thank you for replying.
@NepherionDraconian
@NepherionDraconian 7 жыл бұрын
sumerset isle could be a reference to an ancient sunken island north of britian called high brasil , with the mention of only one land mass this would be the elder scrolls version of pangea
@mmirlas2820
@mmirlas2820 7 жыл бұрын
So, if magicka comes from the sun, should mages be stronger in sunlight?
@narc440
@narc440 7 жыл бұрын
"Friendly neighborhood lore master"
@kofteburger
@kofteburger 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of DC's Final Crisis with Overmonitor and race of Monitors etc.
@zguy1717
@zguy1717 6 жыл бұрын
Do you put the specific books you get the information from?
@ME_YA4P
@ME_YA4P 8 жыл бұрын
How much of this is know in-game, by the npcs? Like, do the Mage's Guild, Telvanni or different Colleges have books or scholars on this? Is this Moth Priest "prophecy" from scrolls? I'm assuming the Altmer have records of some form, how much of this would be there?
@pedros5985
@pedros5985 8 жыл бұрын
from what i know. most of this originates in life books lectures etc. mostly from games earlier than Skyrim that focused more on the metaphysical history.
@pedros5985
@pedros5985 8 жыл бұрын
*lore books not life books
@zulianaaugustus8241
@zulianaaugustus8241 7 жыл бұрын
why did Lorkhan make Nirn you forgot to include that.
@Cognitohazzard
@Cognitohazzard 7 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting that the race of men is older than the race of mer in this universe. I like this twist. But if that's so, how could the mer be more advanced in early Tamriel's history?
@mmirlas2820
@mmirlas2820 7 жыл бұрын
El Bastardo They're elves, they're just that good.
@tobaccoroad2291
@tobaccoroad2291 6 жыл бұрын
Because they lived longer and were descended from greater spirits. Better nature, Better nurture essentially.
@eljavidecuba
@eljavidecuba 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really get the Divive Interplay. Why would things first be arranged by order? Anu being the stasis and permanency makes sence because it is the first what ever and all it knows what to do is just that exist, then comes chaos, Padomay. Why directly after this would come order? In my view, order is the product of an scient being confronting chaos and needing to make sence out of it, so he arranges chaotic things according to a order. So in my view after existence, Anu, and chaos, Padomay you need concience and only then you would have order... Also, just for the sake of undertanding. It is only in Nirn where the concepts of time and space take effect together (are they the "super powers" of Auri-El and Lorkhan?) and that is why the spirits began to die?
@liampovey6942
@liampovey6942 3 жыл бұрын
I know, a year late but I just read your comment. Anu is order and stasis. It's the same thing. And yes linear time and limited space only exist in Nirn but they are the super powers of Aka and Lorkhan, not Auriel
@existentialmoron6334
@existentialmoron6334 5 жыл бұрын
Can you repeat that?... yeah the whole thing
@Flight_of_Icarus
@Flight_of_Icarus 7 жыл бұрын
This is really complicated and I had to watch some portions of it several times.
@martywittenberg6601
@martywittenberg6601 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty fascinating no? Auri-El ascended to godhood. Later Talos performed the same feat. A lower being in Aldmer eyes. Auri-El represents light. Lorkhan represents darkness. Yet watchng this it is so hard to tell wich is Good or Evil. While all they really are is 2 different sides holding different views constantly challenging eachothers guts. Just like real life. Peace or Chaos. Both become dull eventually as what all really want is change....and then change it again.
@xiaohanliu3739
@xiaohanliu3739 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused, this is the forth time watching this video, yet I still don't understand why Aka doesn't exist in our timeline. Is it an effect of a Dragonbreak? What exactly caused Auri-el to take the place of Aka?
@willthevill5500
@willthevill5500 5 жыл бұрын
What caused aka’s break was the fact that the concept of time was meant to be limitless yet lorkhan’s creation of Mundus allowed for time to be limited therefore creating a reality breaking contradiction that shattered Aka altogether
@klauztigr
@klauztigr 7 жыл бұрын
How do 12 worlds of creation from anuad fit into this?
@rodolfoalvim
@rodolfoalvim 8 жыл бұрын
maybe you should talk about how Daedra and Aedra managed to be what they are during this developing line, something that probably have an proper explanation that I actually missed about...
@rodolfoalvim
@rodolfoalvim 8 жыл бұрын
I know shoddy cast, but i barely remember any detail of their content.
@chwig7354
@chwig7354 5 жыл бұрын
4:05 'Murica's history right there
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 6 жыл бұрын
So where do Kalpas fit into all of this? I would really appreciate it if someone explaines it to me.
@OdaManjiro
@OdaManjiro 4 жыл бұрын
The idea is that this whole series of events: Creation then destruction of the world via Alduin has been repeated innumerable times.
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 4 жыл бұрын
@@OdaManjiro when does it start? With the first 2 beings or somewhere else down the line? thats what I really doint get. Because there is a theory that it all happens on the continents of Tamriel. It happened to the contintent where the redguard came from and tamriel is next. That doesnt make sense because their arent infinte continents and time obviously still flows on Akavir.
@OdaManjiro
@OdaManjiro 4 жыл бұрын
@@grantwalter2243 I'd say it ends with a serpent/dragon god ending all creation and then everything begins again with Anu & Padomei. I don't personally believe in the idea that the continents of Yokuda and Akavir are different time periods. Yokuda still exists as a chain of small islands in the western ocean, and Uriel V traveled to Akavir.
@marsuini
@marsuini 8 жыл бұрын
Your commentary does not address the alternate narrative that Lorkhan actually made his own sacrifice for Nirn by removing his heart from his chest at the Convention. You also don't mention that the heart of Lorkhan imbued Nirn itself with a measure of divinity.
@SleepinGriffin
@SleepinGriffin 8 жыл бұрын
I just thought of Ani and Padmay lol.
@johnsven878
@johnsven878 4 жыл бұрын
is this gonna be on the test?
@wilfredynunez5263
@wilfredynunez5263 6 жыл бұрын
Where do the Aedra and Daedra fit into this?
@umwha
@umwha 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video. my headcannon is that their world was made the same ours was and life evolved in the same way it did on earth, and all this lore is just what the human and human like races made up to make sense of the world.
@mrmiffmiff
@mrmiffmiff 8 жыл бұрын
+umwha Except that this lore demonstrably is fact...
@umwha
@umwha 8 жыл бұрын
Yeahh, I hate how there is no room for skepticism in that world
@mrmiffmiff
@mrmiffmiff 8 жыл бұрын
***** You hate that the Gods actually exist and interfere in that world? Maybe fantasy isn't for you?
@umwha
@umwha 8 жыл бұрын
You dont have to like every aspect of fantasy, and literal gods arent in all fantasy worlds. The A Song of Ice and Fire-verse, for instance, manages to be high fantasy and highly realistic at the same time. It is even ambivalent on the existence of gods.
@mrmiffmiff
@mrmiffmiff 8 жыл бұрын
***** If you think A Song of Ice and Fire is high fantasy, you have another thing coming. It's mid-fantasy, at most; the double-edged magic and dragons provide exceptions to that fact, but it is very much not high fantasy. Regardless, The Elder Scrolls is not merely fantasy, it's post-modern science fantasy that takes place in the figurative dream of a comatose Godhead; I can understand your criticism but I don't really understand why you hate it. I think it does everything really well, especially when it comes to religion. Case in point: the religious conflicts in Morrowind (during the time of the game of the same name). The various gods (Aedra, Daedra, former mortals, etc.) make for something very interesting and it's even more interesting, in my opinion, that they actually exist.
@undeadwolf5844
@undeadwolf5844 6 жыл бұрын
So in the begging it was an EXTREME YIN AND YANG THING THAT CREATED A THRID THING AND HIJINKS HAPPENED
@grimlock.primal3800
@grimlock.primal3800 9 жыл бұрын
Not really relevant but, I wonder if in the future we will visit the other continents on nirn, cause I think it would be pretty cool
@NonstopRam
@NonstopRam 9 жыл бұрын
I really got to finish Diablo
@ScottPilgrimSpy
@ScottPilgrimSpy 8 жыл бұрын
so when you say this is your interpretation, does that mean there isn't that much proof, or evidence? Where does most of this info come from anyway?
@ifyourequiet
@ifyourequiet 6 жыл бұрын
The denial of foreign lands doesn’t really make sense to me. Isn’t it accepted fact that for like 500 years prior to the Interregnum a Tsaesci was emperor after the last Reman emperor was assassinated?
@JackChappers
@JackChappers 9 жыл бұрын
Freaking amazing man
@TheSchnitzeleer
@TheSchnitzeleer 7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how the tale of the nine divines ties into this one please somebody explain
@willthevill5500
@willthevill5500 5 жыл бұрын
The eight divines were one of the cosmic beings that came to Mundus due to Lorkhan’s trickery and had their divinity sapped and becoming lesser divine beings. But it’s the sapping of their divinity that allowed Mundus and mortals to be, therefore they’re revered as gods despite it not being known whether they purposefully gave their divinity or they were tricked into having their divinity stolen from them. The eight divines ascended leaving nirn and creating their own planets which they inhabit(still within Mundus, they are trapped here) The ninth divine, talos, came later when he captured all of Tamriel and Akatosh rewarded him with divinity and talos then ascended as well becoming a divine being
@Super50ldier
@Super50ldier 2 жыл бұрын
@@willthevill5500 Lorkhan is the Ninth divine and his planet is Nirn which is his body and that's why Shezarrines appear.
@brockmcintosh8003
@brockmcintosh8003 7 жыл бұрын
Do you think toshraka is a shard
@resdyne9590
@resdyne9590 6 жыл бұрын
But why does no one worship aka?
@Chill-Guy97
@Chill-Guy97 8 жыл бұрын
this hurts my brain
@antonderitu1877
@antonderitu1877 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Zach... its been awhile man... you havent made lore videos for the longest of time. I know coz i follow your channel. You have been making some rant videos... some preview videos... but not lore videos. You said you'd make more lore videos.
@Litro740
@Litro740 6 жыл бұрын
I know this video is 3 years old, but if all of these creators of Nirn became a form of Ehlnofey, then who are the Aedra? Were the Aedra creators of Nirn that just didnt give their entire selves to Nirn?
@Litro740
@Litro740 6 жыл бұрын
what?
@trapstargth33
@trapstargth33 8 жыл бұрын
Great Video
@mannydib
@mannydib 8 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever done any work comparing ES lore to real world sources? A lot of this reminds me of Taoist and Hindu cosmology and Lorkhan rebelling of Zorastrian and Abrahamic ones
@mannydib
@mannydib 8 жыл бұрын
Zaric, do you get into real world history? I imagine most lore enthusiasts do.
@age3801
@age3801 6 жыл бұрын
It's sound like Ainulindalë :))
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