Zhiyun Crane-M2 Gimbal... Terrific or Trouble?

[@SabrinaVideo]

4:38 I know it. You have it bad balanced. It is not a problem. The clamp where phone is placed....you should move it vertically, there are two rails behind the clamp that can slide vertically. It is very easy, please, prove it. It is not a problem

[@iphoneographers]

Sure, we moved it all around. Slid it to every configuration we could figure out. Might need a counterweight for these larger phones as it’s top heavy, which would be disappointing. Still testing.

[@metallpt147]

iPhoneographers did you find a solution to the phone? I have an iPhone XR with also the 18mm lens and trying to balance it as well. Also I think my red latch was placed wrong. When I tighten it, it is almost vertical which seems like it would get in the way as the phone is moving with the motions. You’re seems to be at the 3-4 o’clock and mine is at the 12..weird

[@smithcollegeyoutube]

We have this Gimbal and in our initial use I am unable to balance a Smartphone with a Moment lens and Moment case (and Moment Counterweight), especially compared to an Osmo Mobile gimbal. The extra load capacity would be great if it can be balanced...

[@iphoneographers]

Had a similar issue. :) But it did work in the end (albeit not balanced before the motors are on). Worked easily (and great) with the compact camera. We’re doing more testing...

[@4KDisneyTV]

I was having the same problem. I found that if you unscrew the bolt that holds the mount for the phone and slide either back or forward that will balance it also. For me, now everything is perfectly balanced.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah been playing with that too, the larger phone with the lenses those still isn’t great, but it’s better. Thanks for sharing!

[@j.r.1638]

@@iphoneographers it can be done i have note 20 utltra balanced no issues

[@laurbar8877]

Your phone is to long and to heavy to work in phone position ( small slot). The center of gravity must be changed . Move the screw in the large slot, in compact camera position. Important is : Your phone holder must be in the middle of the phone. In video I see the holder in one corner of the phone (1" from the edge) and so you will never balanced the phone. I hope it helps you and good luck.

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks for the tips! We got it balanced eventually. Top heavy setups are a bit tricky we found.

[@linforddsouza16]

The perfect solution for this issue. I was just wondering why that was not tried. Great Vid though, good learning as I going to pick one up for myself today! :D

[@orchid_parthiv]

@@linforddsouza16 Hi, can I ask you an imp. thing: Is it possible to balance and leave some gap between the right side of phone & the tilt motor so that mic / headphone could be connected for better audio? I asked Zhiyun but they did not answer in a definitive manner. Thx in advance

[@orchid_parthiv]

Hi, can I ask you an imp. thing: Is it possible to balance and leave some gap between the right side of phone & the tilt motor so that mic / headphone could be connected for better audio? I asked Zhiyun but they did not answer in a definitive manner. Thx in advance

[@NaihanchinKempo]

useing the large slot i put my sam s10 plus on it just fine

[@limestone_xyz]

well, balancing it in the first place would help... There is not a single problem with this gimbal. I'm using it flawlessly with an A6000 and a Pixel 2XL.

[@pepsico815]

Are you able to pan smoothly and with variable speeds with this Crane M2 gimbal? I realize your comment is 2 years old but I'm just wondering...

[@TonyBabarino]

Always happy to see the podcast updated too! One of the nicest channels and podcast out there!!!!

[@nyomandana139]

I use this crane m2 for both my oppo reno2 and sony 6k series.. you just need to learn how to make it balance when using the phone. The more extra stuff you add, the more often you need to adjust to balance it.

[@orchid_parthiv]

Can I ask you an imp. thing: Is it possible to balance and leave some gap between the right side of phone & the tilt motor so that mic / headphone could be connected for better audio? I asked Zhiyun but they did not answer in a definitive manner. Thx in advance

[@yrusboaisocorpebsnd5968]

@@orchid_parthiv yes you can

[@gosiawalton2542]

I've had the same problem. Try using the lower hole in the phone holder attachment part :)

[@uklondonbasket3070]

I had same problem until i use lower hole, It work now

[@Whachadoon]

Does that fix the his issue completely. I am thinking about buying this.

[@uklondonbasket3070]

@@Whachadoon use the lower hole then its fine bro

[@ACwebseries]

I am having trouble balancing the Gopro 8 on the tilt axis. It won’t stay upright, it always wants to fall back looking upwards. I can get it to balance it that way, but sometimes the axis lock alert goes off. Watched lots of vids and yours is the first that I have found with the same balance problem.

[@mojoguy7700]

try mounting screw thread in other slot your centre balance point should rectify itself

[@drcobb84]

What I did to get around this is mount it upside down, that is the lens closer to the middle, i can get it to balance somewhat like this. I got it for my smart phone specifically as an iphone 12 pro max with an aftermarket lens does make a lot of the smartphone gimbals on the market struggle due to the payload

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah that’s a good solution. Have done that on some other larger gimbals too!

[@NPossibilidades]

I have a Zhiyun Crane M2 and I can balance with an iPhone Xs and Ulanzi lenses with no hassle and no counterweights. It's not the easiest to balance, but it works very well. Already with Osmo Mobile 2 (my other gimbal) this was impossible.

[@iphoneographers]

Cool. Yeah the lighter lenses like that aren’t really a problem. Our biggest issue is it’s really only easy to balance for compact cameras. Which is fine, but taller cameras and smart phones can be tricky. Otherwise solid gimbal.

[@jinha911]

It has similar issue with note10+ with case and note 20 with case. It will only balance without case or accessory.

[@prasadbelvai6990]

Should I use 5d mark 3 with 50mm or 85mm..,

[@samt5578]

There are 2 thread holes on the phone mount. I had the same problem as you until I figured out which thread hole to use. Switch between them and see if that works for you because it worked flawlessly for me :) Had nothing on the phone either: no lens, case, or counterweights.

[@iphoneographers]

Been playing with a variety of different configurations. Which phone are you using?

[@samt5578]

iPhoneographers Same phone as you, XS Max.

[@iphoneographers]

Good deal!

[@piratapro_4kFPV]

I have a IPhoneXr with the Moment case and anamorphic lens setup. I also add a ND filter sometimes but needs to be re balanced again. It takes me a while, once balanced the red reset screw makes it remember its balanced position for next time use which is a time saver.. Maybe this gimbal may have difficulties balancing phones over 6.1in screens is what I’m thinking. I have the motor strength on medium and seems to power thru the movements with ease. I believe with the payload capacity the M2 has it should be handling any phn with lens with no added counter weights.. I really enjoy my M2 over my Zhiyun Smooth 4 any day..the modes, durability, storage position, and so compact just does it for my use. Thank you for the great video 💯 ..hopefully filmic pro integrates with the M2 ..I have t been able to connect to it some reason ✌🏽

[@iphoneographers]

Totally agree that it should balance a light phone easily and with no counterweights. But it does work fine once the motors are on as they are pretty strong. And the gimbal performed quite well. The footage in this video was literally the first time it was ever used, and it’s quite smooth. So yeah, this is a good gimbal and works great with compact cameras especially, and hopefully we’ll figure out the smartphone side soon, too. :) Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@carlosjuarez4043]

Please review crane M3 soon!!

[@garymyers472]

The weight of the phone and lens is 300g. Are there smartphone gimbals that can handle the weight the OM4 and like won’t cut it

[@bandofbros8112]

Yes if you have an Iphone 12 Pro max with the moment lenses, you will have a setup of 360 grams, add the variable nd on top of that and your setup is 430 grams. None of the phone gimbals come close 😅 For the Samsung Galaxy S20 Note Ultra it's 310 grams and 380 grams respectively.

[@JC-sm7so]

@@bandofbros8112 I'm planning to buy this Crane M2 since most of the smartphone gimbals has restrictions to payload capacity. So you think this Crane M2 is the right solution for that? The ideal setup for mobile filming is the phone, lens, vnd filter.

[@bandofbros8112]

@@JC-sm7so I eventually went for the freefly movi cinema robot. The reason is that the M2 is a pain in the ass to balance. Also my movi is super smooth, Probably the most smooth of all the gimbals I have owned. I also got if for cheap 2nd hand, €140 with counterweights.

[@anthonygosling8128]

Good review, cheers👍 one thing....I noticed that potato jets review, he had the phone mounted the other way round with the added lens so maybe that balances better? Off to buy one now👍

[@jeffreybaker2442]

A lot oh smartphone filmmakers are going to want to use this gimbal with a case/lens/filter setups from Moment and so on. I have been trying to use such a setup on the Crane M2 for the past few weeks and balance has been a constant problem. I’m moving counterweights to different parts of the gimbal but they often end up getting in the way of the motors. I really wish this worked but I think most people are going to find it too complicated compared to smartphone only gimbals.

[@iphoneographers]

Agree with your assessment. Unless you have other types of cameras I would pass on this one for smartphone only use. It definitely works, but not nearly as easy as say the Movi or Osmo Mobile. But it’s great with compact cameras or small mirrorless.

[@jeffreybaker2442]

Zhiyun sent me a picture of the Moment setup with camera side of the phone placed against the motor with the lens on bottom near the plate. Going to try it.

[@korie08]

Jeffrey Baker do you try it yet? Please sharing it 🙏🏻

[@amandalovestoaudit]

Thanks for the review! I am in the process of sending the Freefly Movi back because I couldn’t get the iPhone XR + moment lens to balance 😬 (even with the counterweight)

[@iphoneographers]

That’s too bad, That’s probably our favorite smartphone gimbal. It can take work to balance things but it does work in the end. We have balanced Moment lenses with ND filters etc. Our favorite way to use smartphone gimbals though is really with no accessories! :)

[@amandalovestoaudit]

iPhoneographers I really did love the gimbal! But for some of the work I shoot, I needed to be able to go wider (eg small conference rooms). I got to the point where I had a mechanical engineer look at it and we could only get it to work with a makeshift counterweight twice the size of the largest one included 😢

[@contorta960]

Can this gimbal go in inverted mode? Will be using a GoPro H9. Little worried it can’t as there’s no information online and a few having issues with it

[@TonyBabarino]

Always happen to see the podcast updated too! One of the nicest channels and podcast out there!!!!

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks!

[@NaihanchinKempo]

use the large slot the center of gravity is very thin. line the phone center with the center of the motors i have a sam s10 plus

[@PATCHBOYDARB]

Can you link the music/beat used at 1:40?

[@HenloduToit]

I'm also using the IPhone xs max and could balance it with the phone in both directions but it is working beter (especially in vortex mode) if the camera lens are on the inside, so turn your phone around. But like you have said, it's a nightmare to balance the phone each time, so I'm only going to use my Sony rx100 iii. The extra functions doesn't work on the iii but the gimbal itself is working perfectly! Only issue is, to change the Sony's battery, you must take the mounting plate of and reballance each time, so I've ordered a angled micro USB cable to get power to the camera from the gimbal, hope it works.

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks for sharing, good info. 👍🏻

[@estrong88]

This post was right on time. Just bought anamorphic lens for my s10plus and my smooth q is struggling with the weight without counterweights. Then it was too heavy and slowed the motor when I added the counterweights. Looking into the m2 with their higher payload max. The counterweights should help with the issues you were having. Thanks for the review.

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, this could be a good option for that. Haven’t tried counterweights but that is on the to do list. It shouldn’t need them just for a smartphone though, that’s one reason didn’t try them and they don’t come with the kit. But the payload capacity is very good for this size gimbal.

[@i-DH]

Will the counterweight from Ulanzi or UUrig that has a clamp made for Smooth 4 will fit on M2?

[@اعلاءالانصاري]

What is the best program for colour collection for phone

[@iphoneographers]

On iOS would probably say LumaFusion or Video LUT app are good choices.

[@MiroAcronymity]

I'm looking into buying a Sony Alpha 6400. In the video, you used it with the 18-135mm kit lense and a cage. That should be slightly above the payload the gimble is rated for. Did you run into any problems? If so, do you have a recommendation for a small, affordable gimble for it? Really looking forward to your in-depth review.

[@iphoneographers]

Did not use it with the cage that was just a b-roll shot. Trying various a6400 setups though and will report back.

[@dablet]

how to change battery? is it easily replaceable?

[@ukrainethefuture1101]

I have crane m2 and I bought it from 10 months ago and it’s stopped working suddenly, without any scratching or dropping it , after I contacted zhiyun and because I’m living in Egypt, they said me that their Egyptian agent can fixing it on my cost, or I can send it to their repair center in German and shipping fees on my cost too even the gimbal in warranty period, I’m very disappointed ☹️ and I waiting now the report from their Egyptian agent

[@olena-pe4js]

You saved me, thanks dear

[@PaulPadua]

Can you control the record button on the gimbal if you use Filmic pro?

[@iphoneographers]

No you can’t.

[@garymyers472]

Are there better options for an iPhone 12 Pro Max and Moment lenses?

[@iphoneographers]

This is pretty good. The FeiyuTech G6 Max is good too in this price range.

[@Michael-ez2kj]

Been watching your tutorials for a long time you’ve helped me quite a lot thanks for the good work. Have you tried using a counterweight

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks! Did not try a counterweight yet as it’s supposed to work without, but might be too top heavy and need one. Still testing it. :)

[@edgarcorrea]

@@iphoneographers this was a great video however, learning this gimbal takes a little time so maybe shot a little early... When you do learn proper balancing technique, it will work just fine with large phones. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra with a Saramonic Blink 500 UC receiver to record audio and it balance perfectly (once I learned how to properly balance). My only hang-up is accessing all of the (Filmic Pro) focus and other settings on the screen of the phone. Im hoping the folks at Zhiyun and FilmicPro come out with an update to FilmicPro to add mapping of Filmic buttons to the Crane M2.

[@ronaldcrump202]

surely just a counter weight on the Moment lens would level it up?

[@DJMEDIC671]

What about using a counter weight with the smartphone? I had just returned the smooth q2 as it was max out with the xs max. so I went with this gimbal crane m2 vs the g6 plus. Hoping this will work out. I’m just starting out and will be using my smartphone for now. Then eventually get the moment lens’s.

[@iphoneographers]

Counterweights are definitely an option. We got the phone to balance better later, but there is a learning curve especially with top heavy setups. Overall very good gimbal though and great if you have other heavier cameras too.

[@leeaxon01]

Just bought this. And an iPhone 12 Pro Max. Will it hell connect up - the app doesn't show the M2 ☹️

[@alaa_sami18]

I'm thinking to order one zhyuin m2 for my smartphone because i use rhinoshield soild case and the wide lens too do you recommend it ,, i checked the dji osmo 3 they can't handle the weight i think

[@iphoneographers]

Yes it’s a good option for heavier set ups. This one or the FeiyuTech G6 Max would be a good choice.

[@faithfail]

The thing about the iPhone XS Max + Moment (or any added lenses), it’s basically too heavy for ALL current smartphone gimbals. This one actually is the best choice. There’s counterweights you can use but I’ve added them onto Osmo, Smooth 4 etc and it starts to weigh down the motor. I’m gonna year this one out soon.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah this one is great as far as payload capacity goes. We still have trouble balancing with top-heavy devices though. But it’s a very solid gimbal for sure.

[@faithfail]

Thanks it’s a bummer it doesn’t work with filmic pro

[@fuzz541]

Skimmed the comments but maybe try moving the phone mount to the outboard position on the plate, and turn the phone the opposite direction, so the lens is closer to the gimbal center axis. I realize that night cause the phone holder to pinch buttons, and add-on lenses might be too low and close to the hardware. But it will theoretically keep more of the weight toward the center.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah trying different options. So far this gimbal doesn’t really like balancing the larger phones (however, it still works without having it perfectly balanced beforehand).

[@paulleon6057]

I currently have the DJI Osmo 2 gimbal but it can’t handle the weight of the iPhone 11 Pro Max and a moment lenses. After doing a load of research this seemed like an affordable upgrade for my mobile filmmaking options but your video suggests it still won’t do. What’s the best all round gimbal to cover my needs of filmmaking please? Any updates to your findings? Thanks

[@iphoneographers]

It will actually work but it does require some finagling using phones since they’re top heavy - and especially adding lenses. It is a solid option though, but one other one that has worked better for us with phones is the FeiyuTech G6 Max... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXuvd5-VramDgLM.

[@paulleon6057]

iPhoneographers thanks for getting back to me promptly. I saw you mentioned that model in a different comment so I’ve been checking it out. So in your opinion, you’re confident that it can easily handle the iPhone 11 Pro Max with any of the Moment lenses and perhaps a filter for outdoor shooting? I have bought a couple of your courses so I plan to crack on with them as soon as possible while we are in this lockdown. I feel a bit annoyed I bought the DJI Osmo mobile 2 a few months ago (before I bought the iPhone 11) to later find out it’s no good for my needs.

[@iphoneographers]

The G6 Max will hold a mirrorless camera no problem like a Sony a6400. It holds 2.65 lbs. As a comparison the newer Osmo Mobile 3 will hold .5 lbs., so 5x more payload. It’ll hold pretty much anything you want to put on it smartphone related as it has strong motors. It’s really the best hybrid gimbal right now meaning it’ll work well with phones or smaller traditional cameras - and it’s pretty easy to use. New gimbals are released often, but right now this is our fave in its price range. Hope that helps and hope you enjoy the courses, thanks!

[@krystal4799]

Will you make a video on how you balance it on crane m2?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, we’re working on one it’s just taking us a little while. We’re finding it’s a great gimbal for compact cameras, a little bit challenging for smartphones. But it definitely works.

[@bleww__]

I just got mine and tried this same setup and I had the same issue but eventually got it to work. What motor setting did you have yours set to?

[@iphoneographers]

Tried them all, but low worked fine for the lighter setups. This gimbal has a balancing learning curve for sure.

[@AlGollas]

Any advice on getting my iPhone 11 to connect with the Crane M2? I have the ZY Play app but for the last 4 hours it says it can't connect my iPhone 11 to the Crane M2 through the ZY Play App.

[@iphoneographers]

We don’t use the ZY app much, so can’t really offer much help other than to say make sure the app software is up to date and that the gimbal firmware is also up to date. And of course always try to do a hard restart of both the phone and the gimbal. Hope you get the issue resolved soon.

[@TradeMarketOnlineEC]

Do you can use with Filmicpro?

[@iphoneographers]

Not integrated within the app, but just shooting with it.

[@marksinger5954]

It would be great if you could show how you got it to balance successfully with the Moment the next day. Did you sense that the motor was stressed even though you shot with it unbalanced? I've been using the Osmo Mobile 3 and my concern is that with lenses, filters and counterweights, it's far exceeding the weak motors and while it works, it will likely burn out soon enough. I've heard so little about this gimbal with phones and it seems this would be great because there are simply no high payload phone gimbals available other than this one!

[@iphoneographers]

It took a while. :) Eventually just figured out it’s top-heavy and had to make sure to use the correct screw mount. The motors had no problem. Since this video we’ve gotten used to it, however have had better luck using the FeiyuTech G6 Max. It has a payload capacity of over 2 pounds. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXuvd5-VramDgLM

[@marksinger5954]

@@iphoneographers Thanks for the reply! I just bought this and it seems SO many gimbals have issues with the top heavy nature of iPhones with lenses. I did note that you don't have any counterweights which definitely help releave some of the motor stress. Just bought a Moment counterweight to see if that helps (after improvising for testing with some old weights and a bag). It seemed to work quite well. The fact that this gimbal has a screen indicating mode and access to other functions, allowing it to be operated totally "app free" is a huge plus for me. I like that I can use filmic pro without having to go to another app just to see gimbal status. That said, I'm going to take a look at your FeiyuTech video to see if that helps. As you pointed out, the weight load capacity of the M2 can EASILY handle this combo. It all comes down to center of balance! I really think you should consider doing a video comparing gimbals with wide angle ADD-ON lenses (versus anamorphic or built in ultra wide because they are far lighter). This really is one of the biggest issues using gimbals. I used the OM3 and while it worked, it stressed the hell out of the motors. Sure it just about worked. But for how long? My Sandmarc 18mm plus hybrid filters, plus iPhone 11 Pro weigh in at just under 500g. So FAR in excess of the OM3's safe payload. This is a real problem that a lot of filmmakers are going to face.

[@ldthagreatent]

Would this gimbal be good for stabilizing a Sony a6300 for music videos

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, we put our a6400 on it, just with a smaller lens like a kit lens or maybe a pancake would be ideal.

[@viking66-sa]

Interesting. I notice you have a Moment Case on the Xs Max. Did you try using any lenses, like the heavy 18mm lens? And if you did, what was your experience?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, have used them on the Movi with the counterweights. Works pretty well, although feels a bit heavy and does bounce some.

[@SuperFirstandonly]

Thank you for this video. I have the same problem to balance my iPhone7splus on this gimbal. I don’t think that is made for phones. I don’t know.

[@iphoneographers]

Definitely a learning curve especially for top heavy setups like phones and lenses.

[@mitsos88spyr]

Did you try with the phone up side down ? I mean the camera to the right side. I saw it on other reviews.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah playing with different options. Will post results in the next video. Thanks

[@DreamWevr]

What phone case you have in this video look like a good case

[@LMOF01]

Moment case

[@iphoneographers]

That’s it. Moment.

[@alaa_sami18]

i like the footage specially when you did use moment lens

[@ZedsTechTips]

It's starting to appear like I'm stalking you Alaa 😁

[@alaa_sami18]

@@ZedsTechTips 🤣🤣🤣

[@xalouris]

You can perfectly balance iPhone pro max with moment lenses and Nd filters (i stuck 2 Nd filters) on the top if you simply turn the phone 180 degrees and have the lenses on the lower part...:) Remove also the 2 rubbers of the phone’s mounting clip for extra space when having thick case (at least with iPhone 12 pro max). Works sweet and it is perfectly balanced! ! And it is from the few ones that can handle all the load with iPhone 12 pro max.

[@iphoneographers]

Have heard others talk about this too. Thanks for sharing!

[@laurafordesvideos]

Thanks for your review!

[@wanderbucket]

Have you compared this to the feiyu 6g plus?

[@iphoneographers]

No have not.

[@sampost83]

How would this work with lenses and Beastcage or Helium Core?

[@iphoneographers]

It won’t work with those cages. At least in our testing, the holder/cradle is not big enough to support that size. Weight no problem though.

[@sampost83]

Thanks for the reply

[@TheWaywardHome]

I absolutely can't figure out how to use this gimbal with a mic, which is pretty necessary if vlogging! Any ideas?

[@iphoneographers]

Get a small arm (like a “magic arm” from Manfrotto) and connect it to the 1/4-20 base and then add a cold shoe. Or Ulanzi and others make small arm attachments that will connect and have cold shoes too.

[@TheWaywardHome]

@@iphoneographers thank you!

[@fanli279]

you makes me return the crane M2. I thought it was a better choise than the movi, Cause I dont really like the counterweight and problem with cable for microphone.

[@Rchitaaay]

I just got this gimbal today and I'm having the same issue with balancing and I'm planning to get counterweights for it but I don't know which ones to get. can someone help me???

[@MarcoProvaTutto]

Hi, thank you for sharing your experience, I've bought it today and I'm going to test M2 by next week. I have a sony a5100 with 16mm pancake lens, so it should be no trouble for the weight, but I also want to use it for my xiaomi mi 9T, which has an incredible camera... and sometimes the quality of the mobile camera is enough... BTW I really like the detail of the footage taken with your iPhone XS Max, while I doubt the moment 18mm lens isn't improving it at all... is that a good idea, to add more glass over a camera lens?

[@iphoneographers]

You’ll be fine with that and a pancake lens. That’s actually a good combination. As far as adding lenses… Yeah, the better ones especially work out pretty well. Moment, Sandmarc,, Sirui. All good options. They don’t “improve it“, but they also don’t degrade it. There’s no light loss either. And something like an anamorphic can add some interesting style or a fisheye.

[@Ditispeter]

I don't have this issue with my older Crane M. (the previous version of the M2). But that one is just a little version of the Crane Plus I think. ;-)

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah, have used the full Crane before, but this one was tricky with the phone.

[@scottstevenson7176]

Ill keep searching for that perfect iPhone-moment gimbal that can handle the weight without this fuss. It’s getting frustrating

[@iphoneographers]

Supposedly the Osmo Mobile 3 works with Moment lenses with no counterweights, but have heard conflicting reports. This one definitely can hold the weight easily, but balancing is tricky. At least at first. Hope it gets easier. Still testing.

[@cuyoguzman1869]

I wouldnt recommend it for phones plus moment lenses. I bought it for my note 20 ultra and was able to balance it but it was just too much of a hassle. With the moment lense I was able to balance it but only with the camera closest to the gimbal motor.

[@iphoneographers]

Agreed.

[@shamimfilms9607]

Anyone know whice background music

[@Loyd1025]

try sliding the phone mounting plate up or down to move the phone center of gravity

[@iphoneographers]

Definitely. :) Tried all kinds of configurations. Might need to use a counterweight which is disappointing for such a light setup. But, still testing.

[@4jcv]

Can you set up your phone vertically? If so, how so?

[@iphoneographers]

Good question. Haven’t tried but had a lot of trouble with the height of the phone horizontally so doing it vertically might be even more challenging.

[@fasil.364]

Do you think Is it good for smooth zooming on Sony rx100m 7?

[@iphoneographers]

Haven’t used it for that but you can connect a lot of different cameras and it works well.

[@johnbriscoejr9738]

Thanks so much!! Always love your review. I was going to purchase this until I saw your review, now I’m buying the Osmo 3 for sure.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah if you’re looking for smartphone only this wouldn’t be top of the list. But, if you have other smaller cameras in addition then this is a good option. Thanks for watching!

[@jhetajantv3621]

would you recommend zhiyun smooth 4 over crane m2 for smartphone?

[@iphoneographers]

If you’re only using a smartphone, then probably yes. The only caveat being the Smooth 4 has a very low payload capacity. It’s like 220g. So you really can’t use any lenses or accessories, especially if you have a plus size phone. With smaller phones you can but it will push the limits of the motors. With this one, once you get it balanced you can add all kinds of stuff.

[@jhetajantv3621]

@@iphoneographers even with counterweights on?

[@iphoneographers]

The problem is the payload capacity and a counterweight obviously adds more weight. Again, mainly talking about larger phones. Smaller phones you can make it work with a lighter lens especially.

[@jhetajantv3621]

@@iphoneographers Alright! Thanks man..I'm using a pocophone f1 which is not that huge and a 16mm wide angle lens (Still waiting for it from delivery) Hope it'll balance well with counterweights on without stressing the motors.. Anyways thank you for your honest review..

[@moncho33]

Definetely keeping and eye for the full review. I’m interested on getting this gimbal for my iPhone X and Moment lenses as well as my Lumix G7 with the 25mm f/1.7. I think that the G7 might be ok regarding weight, but it’s the size that worries me a little.

[@BrendanWhelan]

Ugh I have a iPhone XS Max + Moment lenses and I have tried almost every smartphone gimbal and none of them work without issues. Movi Cinema Robot is so annoying to use the counterweights to balance and they get in the way of your hand, Smooth 4 will suddenly crap out from too much weight on the motors, even with counterweights. Osmo can't handle it either. I was really hoping this would be the one because it can handle a higher payload. How is it possible that there's no good smartphone gimbal for a Max + Moment lenses?! It's beyond frustrating

[@iphoneographers]

Definitely hear you! But this one works pretty well once you get past the learning curve and get it balanced. It is tricky at first with top-heavy payloads.

[@AtaSeddighMohammadi]

I had many talks with Moment. they said that the following combinations doesn't work on Osmo Mobile 3 - iPhone 11 Pro Max - Moment Wide or Tele Lens - 62mm Filter Mount + Variable ND Filter - Osmo Mobile 3 They said that it's too heavy for the gimbal to handle this. But how about this Gimbal? Would Zhiyun Crane-M2 be able to handle this load?

[@iphoneographers]

It can definitely hold the weight. No problem there at all. The issue might be balancing because anything top-heavy is tricky with this gimbal in our experience. Lower profile, compact cameras and some mirrorless cameras with shorter lenses it’s great. We’ve had trouble balancing smartphones with lenses just because of the height, but they have worked with some effort.

[@moncho33]

I just got the M2 a couple of days ago, so I haven't been able to test it properly. I have the iPhone X, it will hold it with the Moment anamorphic no problem, the wide might be a little bit troublesome but can be made to work. Have not tried the Tele yet. My variable ND is 77mm because is the one I use with my cameras as well. So when I add the Moment 62mm filter mount, a step down ring 77mm to 62mm and the 77mm filter, it will not balance at all. Since the camera on the iPhone is not in the center it will be too heavy on one side. But it will work wonderful with my Lumix G7 with the Panasonic 25mm and the Olympus 17mm with the 77mm filter and its step down ring.

[@traceyelmore877]

I can not get the app to connect to any device

[@RICHIEXFPV]

I’ve been looking for a comment where someone would’ve told you you need to slide the plate where the phone is outwards t the left. Yours is slammed all the way to the motor where you have no gap

[@KipJackson]

I NEVER GOT IT TO BALANCE WITH MY IPHONE 11 but PERFECT WITH THE SONY A6100

[@TonyBabarino]

First!!!!!! #1 fan of this channel!! 👍👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@ultraman8899]

What happens if you flip the phone so the lens is next to the motor and balance it that way?

[@iphoneographers]

Have played with that, but initially couldn’t get it to work. Still testing.

[@frankfeng2701]

Regardless you can't even put a compact 1", let alone A6400, on Osmo Mobile 3. So M2 wins in versatility.

[@iphoneographers]

Oh yeah, if you have other cameras (besides a smartphone) it’s a solid option.

[@seoulj524]

Damn! I thought I was doing wrong balancing with my Samsung Note 10. This bloody gimbal! got to return

[@iphoneographers]

It’s definitely challenging at first. But it does work with fine tuning.

[@dylan-nguyen]

iPhoneographers I used the Moment counter balance weights. It’s bc the right side (motor side) doesn’t push out to balance. Most phones are longer and if you look at SmoothQ the right side juts out to balance

[@immaUnquiet]

Waiting for your next review of DJI osmo mobile 3 with iPhone XS Max and moment lenses 👍🙌✌️🙏🙂

[@iphoneographers]

Looking to get one. :)

[@smithcollegeyoutube]

I use the Osmo Mobile Gen 1 and it does not work well with iPhone XS and Moment setup. It's just too heavy. But, if you don't need to move the gimbal much, it can help with simple gimbal moves. Just don't try to tilt up or down (too front-heavy).

[@immaUnquiet]

Smith College that’s why I still didn’t get if a new osmo would work with heavy setup or not. Looking to find the best solution for heavy iPhone setup in terms of quality/price

[@viking66-sa]

Don't think it will work. It will be a lot more weight than what DJI indicates on their spec sheet.

[@HosniElmolla]

Hello, to balance the phone use the other hole on the phone holder so you can balance it forward ;)

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks, yeah we played with multiple positions and with the larger phones and lenses it’s a bit tricky. Finding for us its best used with small compact cameras.

[@SKYBELLE]

How much is this

[@iphoneographers]

$269 USD

[@LosMundo]

Muy buen review!!

[@195studio5]

install counterwight ?

[@iphoneographers]

No, did not. Shouldn’t have to for a phone especially, but doesn’t come with one either. Might need something though it being top heavy. Still testing.

[@hussam68145]

this company makes a good gamble ....but stability and program not easy like dji

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, do like the DJI app.

[@rommeldollente1512]

Crane M2 or G6 plus?

[@iphoneographers]

G6 Max (not Plus) would be best choice IMO.

[@rommeldollente1512]

But I can't afforf the additional $80 for Max, btw thank you for ypur answer. :)

[@dark666105]

Where is the followup video?

[@iphoneographers]

😳 Have followed up about it some in other videos but have not done a standalone.....

[@trekkingthrumush]

I just bought this gimbal and it never stays on it keeps saying update then shuts off can anyone help me with this please???!!!!

[@udkc]

Never did the follow up tho?

[@iphoneographers]

Not a standalone video, but did show it in other gimbal vids.

[@liceafilms]

Specifically bought this gimbal for the weight capacity and my iPhone 11 Pro Max with Moment lens/filters. It didn’t work, I’m disappointed.

[@sefasozen7987]

i also planning to buy this gimbal, i have nd filter and 11 pro, what was the issue

[@hellohogo]

Counterweights and clamps are $15 and worth it

[@iphoneographers]

Yes indeed.

[@aakeister]

Use the longer slider plate to balance the crappy iPhone, not the shorter slot

[@Xergiez]

Damn, more disappointment! It was too expensive of a choice for mobile videography anyway. I also see that it sits so close to the motor that you couldn’t plug in anything like a mic or external battery.

[@hussam68145]

great 😂😂😂😂 days to plans it

[@fhamefhame2064]

Remove phone case works

[@briceyaleu3834]

New subscriber

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks!

[@CGphotoOp]

Needs counterweights

[@sg1rules]

Do not buy this product if you want to use a new upto 2 year old Android phone, the app does not work with the phone and have made no attempt to update it, so most of the features wont work.

[@iphoneographers]

Good to know, thanks for sharing.

[@kardigunawan3838]

I would like to buy my first gimbal. Can anybody tell me which one should I buy for my rx100 vii? Thanks

[@iphoneographers]

This one is good, but the FeiyuTech G6 Max is probably better. Did a video on it too... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXuvd5-VramDgLM

[@kardigunawan3838]

Thank you