Zildjian K Constantinople 20" & 22" Rides: All 11 Models

[@samuelstroup304]

All these cymbals sound like an acoustic bass

[@redelbluredelmai2750]

lol 😂

[@christielhaver]

Ik

[@josephmcdermott6426]

🤣🤣🤣

[@delijica]

Bahahaaaaaa 😂😂😂

[@metothemoon1227]

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[@derekbarg7542]

So valuable to hear these in context, playing with other instruments. Totally changes my opinion on which I prefer. Thank you

[@fecatellus1337]

The Renaissance 20 is sheer butter

[@bostondrum]

Table of contents: 1. 0:00 - 20" Renaissance Ride 2. 0:28 - 20" Bounce Ride 3. 0:52 - 20" Medium Thin Ride High 4. 1:19 - 20" Medium Thin Ride Low 5. 1:44 - 20" Medium Ride 6. 2:12 - 22" Thin Ride Overhammered 7. 2:40 - 22" Renaissance Ride 8. 2:59 - 22" Bounce Ride 9. 3:30 - 22" Medium Thin Ride High 10. 3:58 - 22" Medium Thin Ride Low 11. 4:28 - 22" Medium Ride

[@mrrattlesable]

Appreciated

[@edpias7881]

Thank you for this, I live in an area with the closest music store a 90 minute drive away, so being able to hear these before ordering really, really is a great service, thank you.

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching!

[@wonder-womyn]

You should still try and play them because they all sound different even though they’re they same kind of cymbal. Also depends on what type of music you’re playing, what type of sticks you use, etc.

[@ryebread7224]

All of these are amazing. Probably have to go with the 22” Renaissance as my favorite.

[@EvanWiederandersMusic]

Agreed.

[@Chris-vr8cd]

the best series of rides ever made

[@leeschmitz993]

I love that thin overhammered. It sounds like all of those old jazz records from the 40s, and the 50s.

[@andrewkeiswetter8629]

Had one but eventually sold it. It was too washy

[@shanestever1514]

This is the exact video I needed - something where the cymbals were low enough to hear what it sounds like among other instruments. 22" Medium Thin High it is!

[@blueshark928]

I know right? I just scored a used one. It is awesome.

[@futonfave]

yes I agree it rides nicely and with control and still with just the right stick definition and wash

[@Deagledrumzz]

Loved all of them, but the Renaissance ride for me is the stand out. Very nice playing. Thank you.

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching!

[@ValerianKapeller]

Agree!

[@RickWilkerson]

Was gonna say the same myself. 22” Renaissance Ride is it

[@tipofelice]

The piano and bass volumes should be brought down a little in order to hear the cymbals better. Not a criticism, just a suggestion. Thank you!

[@somedood6621]

This video was ok but could you turn up the bass next time, I cant hear it.

[@jackjames7806]

lmao

[@robertdore9592]

There is absolutely no call for such sarcasm Sidney :-)....

[@christielhaver]

What bass lol

[@raccoon1551]

the video isnt about the bass, and it was loud enough.

[@MrBassab]

The bass is a little loud. It overpowers the undertones

[@larrystratton7227]

Great video. Thanks for the comparison. Just purchased the Constantinople 20" Renaissance - waiting for the FedEx truck to deliver today! Nice touch on the kit too!

[@danablett]

Everyone complaining about the mix need to listen through better speakers... Sounds fantastic to me. Jazz cymbals are best heard in context anyway! I've played the 20 and 22 med thin lows for about 10 years... but the med thin highs are speaking to me now!

[@christianwagenseil9621]

danablett when you compare the sound to other demonstrations / videos, it is actually a bit deceiving. the sound here appears smoother than it actually is, and I'm listening to this with 500 dollar Grado headphones 😁 . The mix is not ideal. On the other hand, when playing a cymbal with a band, the sonic environment of bass, piano etc. covers some of the harsher frequencies of a cymbal, so you're right about the context

[@RocknJazzer]

no. music too loud

[@sfsandman4489]

Yeah! All you idiots need to buy $1000 worth of audio equipment to better hear what $600 ride you want to buy or don’t comment. Every ride sounds like a bass guitar 😊. Public service announcement.

[@thebarak]

I agree the mix is wrong for this demonstration. I cannot hear any of these cymbals.

[@samanthaurich3416]

Thanks, great to hear these. I think 22 med thin high is on my shopping list! :)

[@80sruler]

All sound great, but man, I love those bounce rides

[@ibleebinU]

Great comparison video! Really surprised at how much more the 22" Renaissance weighed vs. the 20". Nevertheless, there's not a lump of coal to be found here. I'd be thrilled with any one of them!

[@tomhalbouty3653]

They are all good. My preference is the 20" medium thin low. I would use it for small jazz ensemble work. For big bang jazz, I personally have found that the K or A sweet rides can be heard in the audience and blend well with the band. Lower pitched washy cymbals don't seem to project through a big band in an acoustic setting.

[@burnradio9681]

0:04 20" Renaissance 0:30 20" Bounce 0:54 20" Medium Thin High 1:21 20" Medium Thin Low 1:47 20" Medium 2:13 22" Thin Overhammered 2:43 22" Renaissance 3:02 22" Bounce 3:32 22" Medium Thin High 4:01 22" Medium Thin Low 4:30 22" Medium

[@ronniek7748]

They all sound great for jazz!

[@GF--]

Thank you for this video. Its exactly what I was looking for.

[@bjornbodin2985]

Definitely Medium Ride 22" .. Thank you for uploading a distinct and easy to grasp video!

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching!

[@laurentjean-antoine6624]

Which one To choose ? All sounds great !

[@Exploredinary]

Great video! Really helps me compare side by side, thank you!

[@Incountry]

The Bounce has the nicest, cleanest almost a sparkle sound that’s very alive with this nice shimmer when a heavier stroke is used even when it’s not allowed to just ride out but continued with lighter strokes.. A great performer within its Jazz genre of fusion, contemporary, swing and club sounds, but no doubt would make a great cymbal for R&B (original R&B) and the Delta Blues...

[@123oner2]

Bounce got that SIZZLEEEEEE

[@mihaidrums5]

I really like comparison videos, thank you!

[@blueavadis22]

20,22 med thin low my fav

[@jimbarcelona1078]

I agree with the base drowning out the cymbals capabilities, i love the music

[@PL-oc7vn]

Also just freakin gorgeous

[@cszetela1]

Great comparison video

[@pobehlicaCaptava]

👍nice jazz blues ride cymbals👋

[@AndyPutt1]

Thanks for the video. None of these cymbals have any stick definition... it might be down to the mix though. Maybe it's not loud enough in the mix?

[@christianwagenseil9621]

AndyPutt1 these are all great cymbals, so it must be the mix

[@TheMASDrummer]

Awesome video

[@erick_fernandez_78910]

So interesting that the low ones are heavier than the high ones. Awesome video.

[@TheMASDrummer]

Do you mean in terms of pitch?

[@erick_fernandez_78910]

TheMASDrummer wow, I don’t remember now but, if I had to guess...it’s interesting that the “Constantinople low” are heavier than “Cs high”

[@erick_fernandez_78910]

Yeah at 4:07 it’s a “medium thin ride low” which is heavier than the previous one at like 3:50 and a “mid thin high”. Weight and pitch aren’t necessarily dependent on each other but, it is interesting nonetheless.

[@TheMASDrummer]

From a manufacturing, standpoint. The 'low' models have less curvature and a lower profiled bell. This intern allows the cymbal to pass it's vibrations with less difficulty, which makes the sound darker and with more pronounced undertones. Yes, although lighter cymbals are generally darker and lower pitched than their heavier counterparts, the cymbal profile contributes to the sound just as much.

[@JosimarSantosDrum]

Beautifull BOUNCE

[@greerlambertdrums]

0:01 20” Renaissance Ride 0:29 20” Bounce Ride 0:53 20” Medium Thin Ride High 1:19 20” Medium Thin Ride Low 1:45 20” Medium Ride 2:12 22” Thin Overhammered 2:41 22” Renaissance Ride 3:00 22” Bounce Ride 3:30 22” Medium Thin Ride High 3:59 22” Medium Thin Ride Low 4:28 22” Medium Ride

[@paulhurt839]

Frustrating, because what this tells me is that I need about five of them! I like them all, love half of them, but couldn’t settle on any one. Different voices for different moods. If pushed to pick one that could work across most styles of jazz, I might go for the 22 Renaissance, but ask me again 5 minutes later and I’ll choose something else.

[@rollzolo]

Is difficult to choose. Maybe I just get thin sticks for the needling effects

[@133sean]

I'm currently renting them one by one from Cymbal Swap.

[@patrickwoods2583]

I just bought a 22" Medium but I'm kinda wishing I got a 20" Renaissance!

[@gustavoestevam5263]

2:43 player already shows us his favorite cymbal (mine too)

[@Dsullivann]

22'' Bounce :O

[@pacmanlp8876]

you should make a 2nd version with the music really low. the nuances are all lost in here

[@Fabelnegros]

excellent

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching!

[@lasimestariful]

Thanks, very helpful!

[@AaronRudderow]

THIS IS SO HELPFULLLLLL

[@justinkinyon525]

Very Nice. I like the 20" models the best. They seemed more responsive to the crash accents. But really they all are gorgeous. Nice playing too!

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching!

[@tmaddrummer]

Fantastic video! For me it's sorta like trying on shoes....... I've gotta try 'em on! I was looking for info on a 22 Bounce, and I'm finding that there's plenty of options, including the 20's! I'd have to start splittin' hairs to pick one. Thanks and Blessings for all the great videos!

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching and for the kind words!

[@MatitaBurgosi]

nice video,cheers BUT where were the 22" flat, the 24" light? the 20" suspended ?? there are a lot more of constantinople dude, maybe you meant the available ones,isn't?

[@bostondrum]

Right, these are the currently available *ride* models. Thanks for watching.

[@LogicShouldRule]

It's important to know what size the drum sticks are ???

[@CelsoEduardo]

The Bests of Word!!!!

[@Incountry]

Just what pair to use as high hats now, bored with the 16” need bigger...!!!

[@jimbarcelona1078]

20' bounce ,actually all the6 20s sound nice

[@myaliasmakaveli1]

How do these compare to the 23im A sweet ride?

[@picsvids1741]

20” Bounce Ride.

[@roberte.tewksbury7601]

ALL THE TIME PERFECT, WHEN YOU DESIRE ZERO RIDE STICKING COMING FROM CYMBAL.

[@TheMASDrummer]

You'll want one, someday.

[@lucianokozak8585]

I saw for sale a 2092 grs medium thin low is that real?

[@bryanherward4679]

mine 2105 gms...and it kills...MTL in the medium weight range might just be the best 20" ride ever.

[@snorhyveln]

Such a great touch you have! Laidback and groove. Bassline is not to high 'some people complain'! I prefer both 20" & 22" Med Thin High as rides and 20" Renaissance as crashes!

[@PedroMellodrums]

Hello! Congrats for the huge video! I have a Constantinople 20" Big Band Ride. Do you know it?

[@bostondrum]

Sure. It's a 21" though, right? That model was discontinued years ago.

[@christianwagenseil9621]

the 20'' renaissance might be good as a crash ride on the left side

[@elithepitbulldog2209]

Would be nice if I could hear the cymbals over the bass They all sound the same. Whisper quiet

[@jimfarey]

Just send me one of each. 👍🏼

[@pbldrum]

Thanks for posting this informative video. Are these 22 KCons pretty much within the same price point? Great for jazz and quiet venues.

[@bostondrum]

Yes, 22s are $539.95, regardless of model. 20s are $449.95. Thanks for watching.

[@133sean]

@@bostondrum Wow, THAT'S changed...

[@noostrings]

21's needed

[@hickoryhop]

Can anyone tell me why often people will list the weight of cymbals in grams? What's the significance?

[@bostondrum]

Weight is a factor in the cymbal's sound that isn't always apparent from a picture or a description. As with anything, people get nutty about it, but certainly a 4000g 22" will have certain characteristics that a 2000g one doesn't, and vice versa. Thanks for watching.

[@davidsuprenant893]

Cymbal weights varie ,you may hear a cymbal you really like and you buy it and it don't sound the same. It's always a good idea when you hear what sounds great like on eBay to find out gram weight.Some vary quite a bit.

[@bonzomio]

Having gone through a lot of cymbals, I just find knowing the weights of a cymbal will get me into the ballpark on what characteristics a cymbal might have (stick definition, pitch, wash, etc.). No guarantees....the proof is in the pudding. Even then, a cymbal can change with age, most of the time for the better. If you find a good one, keep it. Boston Drum Center will take care of you.

[@aidanschram9652]

Debating whether to get the high or low pitched Med Thin 22" Ride

[@Danielcardoso294]

Low it is competitive with the frequencies of the bass, sustaining the balance, But on the other hand, depending on the type of comping that gives the solist the high can become more interactive with the piano, almost as if it were bringing new air and new nuances. The best in my opinion is to be able to have cymbals with characteristics similar to low and high in the same set. A high would be on the left side and the lows on the right, so have melodic tools for any comping or swinging! I'm sure? What's your point?

[@Danielcardoso294]

Piano or guitar anyways

[@tipofelice]

Thebarak is correct. Can’t tell very much about any of these cymbals, the piano and bass track are far too loud to hear the sound of any of these cymbals.

[@robbon2004]

they stopped making my favorite ride cymbal they made i traded mine when i changed style music and band i was in cause i didn't think it worked for rock but was sorry for trading and finally found and got another the 20" mini cup best sounding ride i ever played they were popular in 70's and 80's then stopped cause style of music

[@jimbarcelona1078]

Who is the band playing would like to play along with it?

[@bostondrum]

This and other great backing tracks are available from Peter Erskine. See the opening screen of the video. Thanks for watching.

[@michaelobrien8219]

i could barely hear any of the cymbals

[@tracktuary]

What sticks are you using?

[@bostondrum]

Vic Firth American Classic, probably 5A or 55A.

[@tracktuary]

Thanks. Love your videos. Looking forward to hearing that 21" Agop Signature.

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching! Yes, that 21" Sig and the 20" Turk are standouts. We should have videos of them featuring Brooke Sofferman soon.

[@lucasbrucas9632]

What's the difference between the medium ride "high" and "low"? Is it the pitch or something like the bell?

[@bostondrum]

Pitch.

[@TheMASDrummer]

It is to do with the profile of the cymbal from a manufacturing standpoint. The 'low' models have less curvature and a lower profiled bell. This intern allows the cymbal to pass it's vibrations with less difficulty, which makes the sound darker and with more pronounced undertones.

[@guillaumerobert6236]

K Constantinople 22 med thin low

[@josecarlosgonzalez9829]

How you can clean these cymbals?

[@sevman7]

Make your cymbals louder

[@FawleyJude]

Agreed. The cymbals seem buried in the mix with the piano and bass too much up front.

[@LucaMiebach]

I actually think the mix is pretty cool, it showcases the cymbals in a realistic situation

[@profilename9532]

Music too loud

[@robertdore9592]

Thanks for doing this; it's really informative despite the bitching in the posts :-)

[@bostondrum]

Thanks for watching!

[@krysb4725]

no ride sound in the mix

[@rafaelsantos-xn7wi]

the play along is to loud ... would be better without it

[@claystaggs8908]

You can really start to tell a difference at 2100 grams

[@mikehawk9461]

Bass needs to be louder

[@multijd]

I dont hear any difference in these cymbals! Too much piano and bass!

[@133sean]

I heard a slight difference when they moved to the 22" models, but that's it.

[@elithepitbulldog2209]

Well now that was a waste of time and a disservice to these fine cymbals. Please redo this video and mix it right so we can hear them next time please

[@sfsandman4489]

Either I’m going deaf or your mix is horrible. How am I supposed to make a determination when I can barely hear any of the rides you played. Piano and bass were way higher volume in the mix. Bump!

[@アーモンドアイ-s8z]

ベースの音がでかくて肝心のシンバルの音が聞こえない。又、ミディアムヘビーやヘビーが無いので比較出来ず、折角色々叩いてるのに参考にならない。