"Zionism HURTS Jews!" DEBATE vs Anti-Zionist Rabbi

[@jakenewfield]

Watch the full interview here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaXcdKF8gqyZqLM

[@connietrotterdedgrl6861]

Baby , the tonnage of what you don't know is staggering . I don't want to be rude but maybe try living in the now .

[@JeremyJohanson]

Could you do a show on FDRs Zionist advisor, the Supreme Court Justice Frankfurter.

[@Mxdrg]

If the interviewer would interupt less and allowed the person who he is interviewing to answer the question he is asking we would all learn more. And would also make this interview more enjoyable.

[@jakenewfield]

thanks for this feedback

[@faroukabdellah4216]

@@jakenewfield Hi Jake. At 2:15 you're wrong and so mistaken about France ! France isn't an ethnic country ! Im french and my parents have a north-african ethnic bakground, but we're all french ! If i have to describe for you my country, France is a secular (France invented separation between church and the State), and equalitairian and feminist Republic ! The only ones that still represent France in their mindset or fantasies as an ethno-State are the fascists and the far-right in France ! France is the country of "lacité", of the declaration of Human rights of 1789 that's part of the french constitution. And your arrogance and fantasies thinking that your radical views applies to all countries (if Israel is an ethno-State then everybody else is an ethno-State and so France must be one and so it's okay for Israel to be one when you're wrong all the line about what the reality is and what the reality should be coz you're thinking the World not as it is (France isn't an ethno-State) but as you want it to be (France falsly in your opinion being an ethno-State) shows how much out of touch and how arrogant and obnoxious you are ! So why you just be humble about yourself, and how ignorant you are ? And learn a bit about the world and the state of countries ?!!! You're so obnoxious ! Shut up ! Are there french that consider themselves ethnically french ? Yes, but they are on the far-right and it doesn't make the country ethno-centered ! Also the french-europeans are of so various backgrounds ! The latins of the south aren't the basques that aren't the flemish of the north of France that aren't the britons that are celtic that aren't themselves the people of Alzace and Lorraine that are from a german background !!! So what do you know ? Nothing !!!! Please shut up !!!!! Also it's wrong for Israel to be an ethno-state of the jewish people coz the palestinians that are still there, have their grand-grand-parents and all their ancestors trace their ancestry to that land SINCE THE LAST 6 000 YEARS !!!! Palestinians that are born there IT'S THEIR HOME TOO !!! THEIR FROM THERE TOO !!! Shut up !!!! You seem so ignorant ! Shut the fuck up !

[@peanut24353]

He does it because he is a covert zionist and a Jewish supremacist. Don't be fooled at all, he can't contain his support for the "only jewish state".

[@Ze_Moose]

Could you please get this rabbi to debate Ben Shapiro? 🤔

[@Yoboymatt69]

@@Ze_MooseBen’s not gonna do it because u see that no argument for Zionist

[@rayan5150]

France isn’t an ethnostate nor is Germany. They are states for their own citizens despite their races, religions and ethnicities. A German ethnostate would have been a Germany led by Hitler. That’s what ethnostates do, they exclude others whom they deem might pose a threat to their ethnic dominance. Imagine being a Palestinian watching two people debating in their English language and from thousands of miles away about whether it’s ok to steal your homeland or not. It must feel so good to hold dual citizenship. One of the most powerful country in the world and another of the most powerful country in the Middle East with nice beaches for winter vacations away from Brooklyn’s freezing weather.

[@KosherAsian]

A Palestinian ethnostate exludes Jews from living in it because it poses a threat to their raison d'etre of being a Judenrein state that is supported by other Judenrein states who want to control their own populations through antisemitism thousands of miles away. Imagine being a Palestinian and seeing imams and rulers thousands of kilometers away supporting your cause while their country fails through a push of blind extremism in an attempt to get back land that your family had lived on for a few hundred years. Every generation will be a new Muslim leader who needs to push lies as to why their countries cannot support their populations real dreams.

[@Orchid-d27a]

Zionism created in Europe by in 1897 in Switzerland Zionism is a abomination and a far right ideology A ideology so dangerous and foul that murder a human soul.

[@sh25098]

The only countries that are really not an ethno state are the English speaking colonial countries. They genocided the ethnicity that had historical ties to the land and created an artificial country where everyone is equal *except* the original ethnicity that lived there for thousands of years. Who wants to live like that?

[@IvorNovello112]

It’s not an ethno-state, you have Muslims, Christians, Druse and others living under the same umbrella. Germans had to leave East Prussia and so many other regions, kicked out of lands they have lived in for hundreds of years, you see the same outrage about their destiny? Hindus had to leave Pakistan when that state was established? Why are the Palestinians Grievance so much worse than others? They need to move on, it’s time to turn the page a long time ago

[@rayan5150]

@ it’s literally an ethnostate with a law that clearly defines it as a Jewish state for the Jewish people (not for its citizens). Minority of other ethnicities live within that ethnostate that is for the Jewish people despite the land being their own land. Germans didn’t have to give away their historic homeland for Arabs moving from another continent just because they believe god gave them Germany. India and Pakistan is not the same thing. It would have been the same thing if Arabs and Kurds decided to live in two independent states. NOT ONE STATE ON TOP OF THE OTHER.

[@Franvvard]

An ethnostate is NOT a country that has a majority of one ethnic group if that was the case 80% of the world would be considered ethnostates. A country is only an ethnostate when it has laws caters to one ethnicity over all others. Israel is and simultaneously isn’t one. It isn’t technically one because there isn’t a Jewish ethnicity. A Moroccan Jew and polish jew have no ethnic or cultural ties at all. But it is an ethnostate because it considers Jews as an ethnicity literally allows any Jewish person around the world to come a move there. Benefiting from right that the indigenous people don’t even have. It’s simple if you stop thinking of Judaism as an “ethno-religion” you realize Zionism isn’t even about the religion and it’s just another colonial project.

[@goldencalf5144]

My favourite rabbi. Thanks for listening to him with an open mind.

[@hiddyboy101]

Interviewer has his agenda for the interview. That's why he keeps interrupting. This rabbi is very knowledgeable and he is also very sincere in his thinking.

[@NoranAzmy]

Like honestly you don’t seem like a horrible person but at this point if you’re still doing this type of mental gymnastics around colonialism then you need some serious self-reflection. I get that the whole liberal Zionism thing (which you were trying to articulate) is about Jewish people being defined as a group by their shared experience of persecution, and the state of Israel being some romantic dream of freedom from that persecution. I’m deeply empathetic. As were hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who shared their land willingly. Actually to say I’m empathetic would imply some detachment. I see Jewish safety and freedom as my own. But Zionism isn’t a philosophy or some abstract element of Jewish thought. It is a reality endured by millions for almost a century. It’s a century of bloodshed, torture, and dispossession. The precise nature of Zionism and its ultimate destiny should be decided by its victims not its perpetrators. Thank you for having the guts to upload this interview but I hope you rewatch it and realize that when you open your mouth at every point, white imperialism is all that’s spilling out. There are thousands of Jews and even Israelis everywhere right now that stand not in solidarity but in full co-resistance with the Palestinian people. I get that it’s scary to jump ship but there’s no excuse.

[@yousefm4889]

I hope the Rabbi can get another chance at a “debate” where he’s not getting interrupted when he’s trying to explain himself the last time he got interrupted. I personally don’t agree with alot of what he says, but I’m very interested to learn about his point of views and the religious beliefs that he bases his ideologies on. Great guest!

[@NiXd0oRfW9]

Thank you Rabbi Shapiro, you are a truly important voice. I love jews, but I really hate zionism (Can you believe it?) It all started reading the UN-JEWISH state by Akiva Orr. Made be start using my brain about Zionism. Especially Christian zionism, which I was a part of, more or less by default, I just accepted it as a fact. Of course I have to support Israel. I wondered how it could lead to such a bloodshed, considering judaism and christianity when not interpreted in an extremist way, should bring light to people, not blood. Again, thank you Shapiro for being a voice

[@marcusmiz]

This newman guy trying to do a piers morgan, but unfortunately just like morgan his facial expressions and interruptions tells you what side he's on.

[@danielharrington5690]

If you judge him on soley on this interview, you should watch his episodes with Destiny and many other great interviews

[@jakenewfield]

Thank you!

[@algorerhythm630]

@@danielharrington5690shocking that his other interviews with pro izzreal guests have no such problems 🤔

[@BuRidah-777]

Please interview Dr. Gabor Mate

[@mahdialsahaf7746]

Great video brother thanks for bringing eyes to this genocide

[@J.J.-hz5fv]

Interviewer comes off as a little pushy.

[@coreysmith2543]

Damn Jake. You just went one on one with Michael Jordan. What a great interview. It was fun to watch. Another good interview Jake. Can’t wait for the next one.

[@roboldx9171]

I do believe this means anyone can become a Jew.

[@stevenkarras3490]

Very good interview, Jake. Am Yisroel Chai.

[@jakenewfield]

Thank you!

[@dancegod1691]

You should look into the Satmar Rebbe Joel Teitelbaum. He is a major influence of his. Rabbi Shapiro makes many of these points in his KZbin channel if you’d like to hear all his points in a continuous lecture.

[@soruche]

lmao the contempt Yaakov shows is almost unbearable to witness. what a guy

[@adamk5700]

If you want to see what this Rabbi is all about just get him to place his hand on a Torah and ask him if he believes the soul of a non Jew ( regardless of how kind and God fearing )is spiritually not as elevated as a Jew. Then you can find out his real motivation re Israel ceasing to exist as a Jewish state.

[@jakenewfield]

I think that I should make this video shorter, by deleting the last 10ish minutes. Would this make you more likely to click on and watch this video? Please let me know

[@xtxrx2349]

No. Good content is good content. 'Shorts' is probably what you're looking for to get punchy, key points. A shorter or longer video wouldn't be the deciding factor for me.

[@zoharianovici1983]

Jake I think we should talk. I am an Israeli activist based in AMS and I see you are still struggling to understand the progressive Israeli, humanist view that supports a one state solution. I give public lectures about antizionism and antisemitism so would love to have this talk with you

[@newidealism3894]

I assume making vids shorter always makes people more likely to click. (For that reason, I started dividing videos into a 2-minute part 1 of 2 followed by a 20+ minute part 2 of 2.) For a highlight except like this, another consideration is: Would trimming away ten min from the end tighten up the intensity and leave people more likely to click over to watch the full episode. Not that you got me thinking about it, I wonder if clips like this one might be optimally less than 4 min, and that way people are less likely to feel like they've ... like... watched enough already, or something.

[@KosherAsian]

Your title doesnt line up with all of the speaking points. Maybe edit out your injections and his "no wait let me finish" sentences or remove other things that dont match up and leave it in your full interview

[@danielharrington5690]

I think you're doing great man. Just keep busting out great content. 👍

[@PeaceSparks]

Assimilated Jews and people assigned Jewishness, people who fought for Germany in WW1, people who fought for France in WW1 were persecuted and targeted for annihilation. Jews are save in the Diaspora so long as the states don't chose to target them. In a Jewish state the police and armed forced are motivated to defend Jews. This is the fundamental reality of the matter.

[@rayan5150]

Yeah, that’s why they call it an apartheid. Same thing for South Africa during apartheid. The police, army and the state are all designed to defend the Afrikaners.

[@hartyewh1]

Only idiots call it apartheid. Lacking solid reasoning to support their claim they try to skip to a conclusion and use a label that's supposed to make the case for them.

[@newidealism3894]

In a startling plot twist, the notorious anti-zionist rabbi interprets Jake's saintly patience during this painful interview as a sign that the Messianic process has begun and suddenly turns pro-israel. 🤪

[@jakenewfield]

lol!!

[@joseroshe1059]

Bibi may or may not have said that he speaks for many others Jews. Many zionists before him may have said the same. Taking a few quotes and saying that is indicative of the very nature of zionism is low resolution thinking. Thanks for pushing back on that. Am may mean society. How about Goy? or Umah?

[@NadeemAhmed-qc3ko]

When your founding fathers ethnically cleansed the Palestinians it doesn't matter what you take as your interpretation of zionism that is what zionism is

[@joseroshe1059]

@@NadeemAhmed-qc3ko We both know why they were ethnically cleansed. They didn't want to be genocided. Seems rather fair to me.

[@yatziv18]

25:00 From this point you can see how the Rabbi is confused. He mentions that the Jews are a religion and not a people, yet he mentions that there are concepts of family and tribe. He also confuses time periods. The Torah wasn't given to the Jews when they were identified as Jews, it was given to the Israelites. It wasn't until after the split of the two kingdoms that Jews became an identity within the Israelite identitiy. The language of the Jews was Hebrew, until the first exile which started the globalization of the Jews [see Isaiah 36 and 2 Kings 18]. The globalization of the Jews caused the Jews to speak different languages, but their tongue was Hebrew, that is why the Rabbis of old chose Hebrew as the language of prayer for the Jews to strengthen the unity of the people. This Rabbi is doing a dis-service and acting as a politician instead of a Rabbi. A Rabbi need to be aware of the different time periods that the Jews lived in and be able to convey the ideas based on the cultures they lived in. He is using modern terminology, and thinking, and shoving ancient ideas into his modern interpretation of Judaism. I would ask any Rabbi that says that we are not a people but only a religion then why aren't convert 100% Jews? Why if a convert marries a convert then their children are still considered converts? Genetic are also a part of being a Jew not only the ideology. The Rabbi is wrong, which is why his ideology goes against the ideas of most Jews around the world.

[@Uzaair]

He's not confused. He's making perfect sense. The very early converts to Judaism were considered Jews in every aspect of the term because it is, first and foremost, a religion. Anyone who holds the view of '100% Jew' based on supposed genetic heritage is, quite frankly, misguided in their thinking.

[@yatziv18]

You are talking from an outsiders perspective. What does early Jewish converts even mean? It was a family, then tribe then nation. One doesn't need to be 100 % geneticly Jewish to be 100% Jewish. Talk to a learned jew to get clarity.

[@adamk5700]

This Rabbi has an issue with the Children of Israel using 0.02% of land in M.E for their homeland. Muslim Arabs rule 99.98% of M.E yet this Rabbi seems to think Jews being back in their ancestral home is a bad idea despite the Quran, Yes thats right, the Quran confirming the fact that the land was assigned to the Children of Israel. M.E is a tribal region meaning Israel is a neccesity.

[@TommyTumma]

Ashkenazis are NOT from that land. Thats why DNA tests are prohibited in Israel. Also, any Jew who wanted to was allowed to move to Palestine since forever. It wasn’t until the terrorists in the Haganah started murdering the original inhabitants and claiming sole authority over the land that the violence kicked off. You know NOTHING

[@BuRidah-777]

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Expansionist ideology (greater Israel ) does not make up 0.02% of the land. You’re supporting never ending wars and suffering. There’s something unG-dly about that thirst for blood and land.

[@adamk5700]

@@BuRidah-777 Israel including Gaza & West Bank account for 0.02% of land in M.E. Please feel free to prove me wrong. Regarding expansionism Israel took the entire Sinai Peninsula in 1967 war but returned it post 1979 Peace Agreement. If your talking never ending wars then you will have to look at Arab world. Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Sudan. Millions dead, millions made refugee. Nothing to do with Israel and all involve Muslim Arabs either fighting each other or Christians. Go figure.

[@UltraIslamite]

Clueless isn’t even a word to describe your comment

[@adamk5700]

@@UltraIslamite Clueless is a Muslim whos never read the Quran yet quick to comment using the useless dribble they have been fed in Mosque or by other ignorant or politically motivated Muslims who actually have far more conflict between each other than with Jews. The Uma in Middle East is a perfet example. Prove me wrong with a fact not a comment.

[@MrDIEGODICE]

Just explain the apartheid system and double law in the west bank to make him understanding.....he looks late

[@danielharrington5690]

Everyone like this video to support Jake!

[@jakenewfield]

Thank you!