Ultimate Squadron Vehicle Tier List

[@ZoltanSultan]

entire voice over is re recorded from scratch to fix a audio problem where some people could hear a high pitch squeel. i did try to reach out to youtube support to see if I could use the replace video feature but they said no, so this is a reupload. join the discord: discord.gg/nrbsVmjkDG

[@Bennys-handle]

thanks for fixing it

[@Hootis]

I thought I was losing my grip on reality when I saw the video and remembered watching but I was like, I was asleep the last 2 hours I couldn't have seen it until I read your comment

[@MeinCrab]

Thx for your effort!

[@JetS_Gamer]

Thought it was a reupload and was wondering why

[@red_d849]

i was gonna ask

[@HaykoXG]

Naval Squadron vehicle players are devastated right now.

[@tplays6688]

Who?

[@vagabundolino]

Yes thats true

[@venatorn]

​@@tplays6688 sup buddy

[@HaykoXG]

@@tplays6688 good point

[@Thelancastarian]

My poor Liverpool 😭😭😭

[@av812bb]

it took me untill 19 min in to notice that it was a re-upload of the vid i already watched.

[@thetankerdanker1119]

Yep

[@Am-ugly_af1]

Oh so am good I shouldn’t quit weed yet

[@thetankerdanker1119]

@@Am-ugly_af1 yep

[@FinnishJokingBall]

Yeah I realized about 5 seconds in

[@yeetdachildmk1295]

Read the pinned comment

[@Ben_Kunz]

This isn't a re-upload, this is a deliberate test to see if we, the mindless mob, would watch the same video again, letting Zoltan double his money. I, for one, did watch it again, before realizing I had already watched it just a few days ago.

[@ZoltanSultan]

r u ok

[@JetS_Gamer]

read the pinned comment...

[@keoria-T26E1]

@@ZoltanSultan none of us are, we play top tier

[@harishadzibulic6603]

@@keoria-T26E1 Best pfp in all of youtube

[@keoria-T26E1]

@@harishadzibulic6603 i have better, just keep forgetting to change it lmao

[@Azimuth_ZeroDegrees]

As an American main, the M901 was game changing when getting those thermal optics. Playing with the TOW while also using the M551's & M60A2's Shillelagh made games that were earning me 30k SL on a bad game and 50k-75K SL on a great game. Include the A-4E's Walleye guided bombs for CAS in a ground RB game and you've got a serious combination that absolutely wipes the floor with other countries at that BR.

[@RUNNER_HIT]

17:40 That r3 jumping had to be the highlight of the video

[@randomdoge1361]

Bro was screaming for his life

[@RUNNER_HIT]

​@@randomdoge1361bro was trying to make italy mean something sorry for a late reply

[@Thelancastarian]

I couldn’t stop laughing when you just drove the bishma straight into the river that was so unexpected 😂😂😂

[@petrkdn8224]

35:34 APDS-FS is a regular APDS with fins, therefore making it APFSDS, but not in a traditional way, traditional APFSDS is lenghtened, this is why it has relatively poor penetration for a 30mm apfsds. even warriors ***regular*** APDS has more pen.

[@MarcoChurchH]

The fact that the BMP2-M and the 2S38 are both lower at BR than the HSTVL while being better than it at anything is criminal.

[@buscadiamantes1232]

the fact that Gaijin still ignores the bug reports regarding penetration and damage on the HSTVL's round... the fact that they STILL don't give it air track/proxy he... yet the (practically) prototype 2S38 gets better stuff than it, at lower br, for money (easier to get than the HSTVL), as a PREMIUM, with lower crew training cost in SL... yeah. People can't say that russian bias does not exist when Gaijin actively goes out of their way to nerf any american tech because it is way better than the pact counterpart

[@Aiden_Sand]

@@buscadiamantes1232 Its literally just russian bias :( Because all the cv90's should also have air tracking as can be seen from publicly available documents about the cv90 sights, but gaijin just doesn't care because their a russian company and want to make russia look good / make money off russian permiums

[@sampackman69]

I found Spookstons alt account guys

[@buscadiamantes1232]

@@sampackman69i mean he's not wrong! (I sent a long reply and it got deleted.) Basically War Thunder's game director said he mains Russia, and only has US/GER/SWE/ISR at ranks 4-6, and that he plays naval arcade only lol But yeah, that explains why russian APHE rounds still overperform at angles, even years after it was disclosed... or this huge difference between the HSTVL suddenly getting a short rod and pen/damage nerf ahistorically but the not even put in service 2S38 gets all it's quirks on day 1

[@MarcoChurchH]

@@sampackman69 sir you made me laugh out loud

[@achillea3186]

Fun tip - if you chuck the m901 in CC1, the launcher won't fold up, so your time to fire is much much faster!

[@hyperion8431]

Not with later engine upgrades, though

[@Dark_Productions]

Amazing Video as always ♥

[@Bruh_Thunder]

Yooo, its dark productions!!!

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

One vehicle I wish will still come to WT is the Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne, as it was part of the massive vehicle leak on the dev servers back in the summer of 2021.

[@prantz3052]

oh yeah i remember that, i mean the model for it has been made so i assume it should come at some point, maybe in like another 3 years tho lmao

[@FlowerMareEnjoyer]

It'll be $84.59

[@liladoodle]

Looking at it, it has some similarities to, by which I mean it lead to the development of, Drift's helicopter mode in AOE & TLK.

[@reyreeey]

Ah, I love thinking back to when everyone was complaining about how the BMP-2M was too low BR, so naturally Gaijin just gave it APFSDS as well

[@kahelo_nya]

SU-22M3's targeting pod is literally the gyro sight same with the su-25s that doesn't have dedicated targeting pods

[@juioploski4063]

Firecrest slander will not be accepted, the M3s are great at setting fires and the performance is nuts for 2.3. B+/A- tier you just simply need to be skilled

[@Timmy10cans]

Slender*

[@toastyboi1627]

@@Timmy10cansbruh wut

[@a_paperweight]

Please stay in school​@@Timmy10cans

[@thatguyoverthere9634]

The firecrest is genuinely one of the best aircraft in tank RB. All of the german open topped and panzer tanks with 10mm of roof armor make it very effective at cas with some of the best dogfighting performance for a plane equipped with more than one 12.7mm

[@pootis_gaming99]

@@Timmy10cans Slander is a word my guy

[@nathansherman5684]

The BMP-2M was originally 8.7. brutal.

[@eeeyyy6848]

The probably thought it was slightly better than the marder

[@admiralkosovothefirst]

Naval player here.Cas in naval isnt really a problem so maybe the firecrest is fine IF you fricking face an AA ferry,Firecrest is kinda good in bluewater fleet even though i dont even play that plane because low tier bluewater is the one with the least AA so you probably gonna havee a blast

[@bananavbs]

The AH-64 had a introusive thought when locking on when the friendly jett flew by

[@mattb.2359]

And for the 262 A1a/U1, with the all the cannons in the nose, set different key bindings to each of the cannons. That way you have control over which cannon (specifically the 30mm) gets used for what. I always refer to the MK103 as the good 30mm. The MK108 is good for planes, nothing else.

[@Radocruz]

I chuckled when you said the fire extinguishers for the harrier is useless. Fire extinguishers really do just suck unless you get really lucky and manage to survive, preferably in something that has a second engine. I can never rely on it for anything. I do have to admit that in the rare case that it does actually save you, it is nice. though.

[@aaronfriedlander4184]

The Su-22 doesn’t have a targeting pod lol. Irl the pilot is just looking through their HUD and the pod only shoots the laser.

[@RamboDrogado]

4:15 example: M18 Hellcat, which gaijin reclassified it as a light tank for absolutely no reason

[@Better_Bread]

It is a light tank tho. The m36 already plays the tank destroyer role

[@hyperion8431]

​@@Better_Bread The M18 was historically a TD

[@modguy871]

Always a good day when zoltan uploads

[@fishbrix3809]

only real ones know its a reupload....

[@modguy871]

@@fishbrix3809 only real ones appreciate it anyways

[@INeatFreak]

6:06 "flying against extremely powerful anti air" He isn't talking about Rolands is he?

[@64Mustang]

If i may add, the F-5E CU should be in a tier above S though the reasoning is a little niche. In Sim battles, this thing is a literal god. Something not mentioned in the video is the RWR it has access too, being a NATO IFF RWR. For those unaware that means it tells you the plane type pinging you, so "F4" or "M2K" or "F14" etc. The advantage this gives you in the air Sim game mode against NATO planes in immeasurable. This alone essentially gives you absolute impunity to fly around the whole map with your radar off and able to sneak up on all enemies, tracking them with an insanely good RWR. With its ability to out perform every plane in its BR for flight performance and even punch up to 11.7 against the M2Ks... its incredible. Granted the RWR doesn't really serve a huge advantage other then ground RB for detecting incoming enemy planes and AAA, and in Sim. Though personally.... I'd give it S+

[@revolver265]

The single sim main has arrived. No seriously, that's awesome to hear and it's on my radar now. I love Sim, but I also love gimmicky/toy jet fighters like the 104, Buccaneer, and MiG-23BN. The lack of functional radar on two, and useless RWR on the MiG makes knowing what's up really hard.

[@64Mustang]

@revolver265 hell yeah. I exclusively play high tier sim now and I can't recommend the F5E-CU enough. Pair the killer RWR with its python 3s and all aspect aim9P4s... it's a literal monster. 20-30 kill games are common after you really get used to it.

[@type-10]

My Russian "top tier" lineup is made up solely of the T-80UK, BMP-2M and Su-22M3

[@ricardogunnz2]

Firecrest was my first squadron vehicle and it certainly helped me a ton with the grind playing GRB.

[@JLS-ti3lb]

He still forgot the boats

[@luks0nc]

18:41 "Melon 90 cant hurt you, it isnt real" Melon 90:

[@tranxuanminh4623]

Naval is like the weird uncle you have You know its there but sometimes you forgot about them Just like Sultan forgot to include the squad ships 😢

[@alihasanabdullah7586]

The Me-262 is easily A tier imo. It's by far the best CAS around its BR, and you can very easily destroy tons of open top or weakly armored enemies, while having the agility advantage over something like a Do335. If you want to cannon CAS, the squadron 262 variant is definitely the ultimate WW2 airplane.

[@eeeyyy6848]

I think the me 410 br 5.0 is overshadowed, it has the same guns with 240 ammo pool with decent agility and twin 13mm cannons at the back that shred anything

[@euro_bahn]

21:36 gotta love the 'm1a1 ambrams'

[@eliveltonss4041]

17:38 The most brave R3 player I ever seen hehehe just chilling in front of the tank 😂😂

[@torifin755]

my first Squadron vehicle was the 262 and at first. i hated it it was clunky slow and i was constantly fighting things that i had zero way to counter. but now since its 7.3 it fits SEEMLESSLY into my 7.7 german lineup and ive done much better in ground RB working as a Semi-CAS/Anti-CAS role. and i have to say, its my best jet so far, and i own the F-4S

[@ufcplayer2444]

as a uk main i realy enjoy the bhischma wat is important to notice thst the mine blades haba a limetet hitbox witch can get u stuck

[@guardrailhitter]

I actually feel that the 262 is very strong for air realistic, it gets an air spawn and can just about get on the same level as SU-11s, the cannons are a bit funny because you get 6 of them, they spread out a lot and they deal a lot of damage so all you have to do to get a kill is lead them in the rough direction and just spray, even if only 1 shell hits it will atleast crit the other guy and the flightmodel isnt even that bad as long as you avoid furballs and boom and zoom

[@dihannvanniekerk]

Funny, I got my very first squadron vehicle today...the 262

[@uwunga]

Use it in head-ons. It shreds anything, so you can basically get 2-3 kills at the very start of the game, and then do that again. Thus, you can grind events pretty fast

[@magnum6763]

minor error, the Swiss Hunter 58 has AIM-9Ps, not AIM-9Js. Its such a minor difference that it doesnt matter, but the Ps can be slaved to the radar so that can be useful

[@choutca]

13:14 that flying tree

[@medos9854]

"And France and Italy are still waiting." Same remark as on the first video.

[@devastator_gaming2205]

Air RB player here I'm a big german WWII plane enthusiast and most 262s get the mk 108s which are good on planes just not fast moving jets the mk 108s are only ever really great if you get the jets slow otherwise they are very hard to hit. The mk 108s do decimate anything you hit tho with universal belts c: you might not do much dmg with default belts tho. But the mk 103s have amazing ballistics and if you know how to fly the 262 the mk 103s are a huge upgrade from the mk 108s

[@newbluewolf3]

I used the Sea Harrier for grinding to British top planes. Due to the very good low speed thrust you can climb quite well and drop Aim-9Ls on low flying enemies that don´t see your missiles coming. I often got 2-3 kills right after the start of the match just because I launched missiles at the enemy base bombing train

[@shulminsama3820]

me262 a-1a/u1 is great for air RB in my opinion. when spaded you can do some decent maneuvers and avoid gunfire, but most importantly the guns here SHREAD anything it comes in contact with. a single well placed 30mm shot can oneshot a aircraft, and you got almost 300 shots of them. you can esally stack up kills with this aircraft

[@omkymo]

personal best 4 planes 5 tanks and 5 assists after I fully researched all of the equipment. I love the plane but only if you manage to carry the speed above 500kmh you can do decent things but if you drop under that you are done. Hit and run tactics work like a charm.

[@lionblocks]

I unlock the Leo2pl, me 262, bmp-2m, object 122 and t-80u. I enjoy all of them🎉❤

[@flamepanzer1767]

Genuine hot take maybe, but i quite enjoy the firecrest. Back in the day, it was criminally over brd, at i think 3.3. Even then it had a pretty strong engine, but now at the lower br, the engine is very good, M3 .50s are very good with the higher fire rate and better damage, and it still turns fairly decently

[@professorgrouch]

I grinded to top tier in the Hunter (and later Mig21 MF). It is THE BEST squadron plane for BR and equipment. Love it.

[@philippbvisuals]

Me too, with a talisman its really good for grinding until rank 8

[@ReepsWasteOfTime]

13:41 this jet is perfect for vtol/harrier lovers that don’t play the uk or Italy. Still can’t wait for an American AV-8B plus.

[@westernspy561]

36:15 Oh wow, I actually didn't know that, thanks :D

[@dutch24]

Important note about the M901, since it is a M113 chassis and Gaijin hates it, it will struggle to go up most inclines your normal tanks might, keep that in mind too. (Also it should be W-E tier)

[@DonutWithMustache]

anyone else notice the sign in the background at 26:35 ?

[@jumbo47b13]

Just to Think about that the BMP2 can Launch atgms while driving is insane, as example, when they took that ability away from the Type 87 broke the Back of this vehicle

[@Badwarrior5]

the swedish t-80 is at a akward br for sweden. not good enough for leo2A6 lineup and leo2a4 will get put into top tier if u use it.

[@GlitchingCat]

I personally like the 50mm variant of the Me 262 more. It's so much more satisfying once you master it

[@RedVRCC]

The M901 can actually be pretty good in niche situations. Say you've got a match where each team has their own cap point and the map has some good short cover. You can find an advantageous position overlooking a route the enemy will travel down in large numbers and pick off quite a few of them and then scurry back to the cap to rearm. Using the Su-22 for CAS, I tend to prefer the bombs. Iirc you get bomb CCIP which makes aiming them easy. I don't personally have this aircraft but I have the Su-17M2 which is more or less identical when it comes to CAS. An extra advantage of the Bhishma you didn't mention is that while it lacks the Shtora-1 soft kill APS, it gets extra ERA modules in their place which can actually save you once in a while. It's kontakt-5 with iirc 150mm of KE protection which can make the difference between some darts penning you or not. While the M1A1 AIM doesn't get a commander sight at all like most other M1A1s, you do get thermals in the M2 Browning sight when you select it as primary weapon. It's that little circular thing mounted next to it on its mount. This can be used as a makeshift CITV in some cases.

[@shodoaowa2059]

If more tank destroyers got scouting, imagine, someday they fix Khrizantema S’s ground radar and its BMP3 hull hydraulic suspension, then add the scouting to it. Even its got from 9.7 to 11.0, even 11.7 after those buff, it still can do wonders

[@Eric-c3v]

17:40 that poor poor r3 is gonna have flashbacks because of you zoltan.

[@AveragePootis]

The M901 used to be one of the most broken vehicles in the game, nowadays its just decent and balanced in mid-long range maps

[@joseSanchez-ej2oh]

In naval arcade u can see what lineups a player used The squadron SKR 7 is often the only top tier vehicle a player have Imagine the majority of ground RB 10.0 matches with 3 Soviet players who spawn in the BMP2m, a bt5, and a kv1 (or only a BMP2m) That's basically the situation with the SKR7 bc ppl buy it so often

[@ciarangallagher7527]

I know I’m late to this video but does anyone remember playing more thunder and your gunner would go unconscious? He wouldn’t be dead he just be unconscious. I never get that anymore. It just says either he’s dead or he’s alive. I remember playing you get hit none of your crew would die but you’d hear over the radio, the gun is unconscious or some otter crewmember is unconscious

[@kubaz2308]

I knew I saw this video somewhere! I was looking for it last 3 days cause I'm about to start my next research and couldn't find it, thought I was delusional

[@playurgame-l3u]

I'm so happy right now since many ppl say that the a4-e early is bad but i still continued to unlock it i don't have it yet but I have like 40k research left

[@c0leL]

Mate if you go to your war thunder directory and delete the lang file then reload the game, all of the weird names of vehicles with underscores will be fixed

[@ZoltanSultan]

It’s intentional to have it like this as it shows the real vehicle name at long distance. Helpful for when different variants of the same plane have big differences in their missiles

[@c0leL]

oh ok @@ZoltanSultan

[@chrisbacon3071]

My friend who’s a Warthunder wiki moderator said the Firecrest actually has the wrong engine but I haven’t had the time to check that fact out yet…

[@JUNIsLuke]

That clip with the British t90 lmaoo

[@waffles_claws]

The Me-262 is a good squad plane but only in head ons

[@ItsATrap614]

I think the grenade launcher on the BMP-2M is actually kind of a balancing feature. The ammo for it is stored right on top of the turret which makes it a pretty easily kill when one of these is hull down. When playing it I've actually tried putting this theory into practice by emptying the entire GL ammo before going into battle and it made a small but noticeable difference in survivability. I am quite fond of it but it's not my favorite IFV. Lynx is better imo.

[@djtigerrawr7303]

I shouldve commented about this earlier, but the Me 262 is the best at its br in sim, as it is the fastest and better at retaining its speed than the other jets, ive gotten 11 kill 4 assists 3 deaths before in it, its very fun

[@pennycarvalho1223]

About the Russian apds-fs name, I think it’s actually how they call their shells. They basically call it APDS that is fin stabilised, when westerners typically say apfsds.

[@AlienTreeGuy]

The reason why there's no - and an additional space in the Swedish name is probably cuz of Swedish army name formatting. Since it was the Swedish army that trialed it, they probably changed it to make sense with other Swedish vehicles.

[@mikewazowski7024]

It was very odd to see the firecrest be trashed this way. It’s very versitile and is a CAS plane that turns into a very agile fighter once it’s dropped its ordnance.

[@t_k_o_l]

I dunno I quite enjoy the Firecrest in Air RB, I can sometimes get away with 3-4 kills before having to reload

[@vibecu]

I love how the bmp-2m before was in 8.7

[@michaelcox9855]

The only issue I have with the Firecrest is the lack of durability. I swear if I sneeze my tail falls off and it's crash time. I have otherwise not had issue with the weapons system or maneuverability. Then again I have, when paired with a good squad of platers, been effective and gotten kills with Hurricanes at a BR two and three points higher than their actual BR. In those teamwork and communication was key though.

[@marcelocraveroregeni6973]

Damn Sultan. You realized we loved this one didn't you?

[@karolis5376]

havent seen this vid fully but its a zultansultan video its gonna be a banger

[@xTurboX_]

You forgot, for me a big advantage on the BMP-2M. Because it can lock onto enemy aircrafts and kill them with its main or just shoot one of its 8 ATGMs (4×2) which surprisingly hit quite well even onto moving planes if they don't manoeuvre that much. I know you just forgot to mention it but that's why I made this comment, to let others know it can lock onto enemy aircrafts.

[@pinakeshnegi771]

the Bhishma dozers can stop HEAT rounds

[@tianhaoju4634]

And we still have two nations without a squadron vehicle.

[@eddyreplays]

AH-64 is at least A tier only because it's the only Apache in the 10_3 Simulation Ground bracket. In good hands and good matches, it can carry entire games with +10 kill minimum.

[@SGT-Barska]

I served in an M901 in real life. The power of the TOW missile is impressive but the rest of it - well, as described in this video. Cannot move much if the launcher is erect. Rather clumsy, slow, and heavens help you if you have to erect the launcher by handcrank. We all would rather had a simple M113 with a ground system strapped to the top or even a HUMVEE. Still, I am buying this in WT as soon as I can.

[@MrTAGGER88]

good vid m8, quality information and good editing. new sub 4 u!

[@AlexArango-fo4qm]

Hey man just wanted to say i just subscribed because i found a lot of this stuff useful and i think im going to start grinding for the bmps

[@zubi9995]

the difference between swedish and russian T80U names are probably file difference, you can't have 2 files named the same because the program won't know which one to read at a time

[@Darelumga]

I flown with Harriers only in Sim Battles, there i feel the engine very efficient. You can go at 60 or 70% without loosing much speed.

[@ThePandabearzzz]

The 262 is a fantastic anti tank with the mk 103 ap rounds even after they were nerfed. The 20mm and the mk 108 30mm are also very punchy HE slinging threats to aircraft and opentops

[@acidicharp4412]

I got the Me 262 A1-a after purchas...I mean acquiring the leo 2 PzBtl and found that it's surprisingly good at downing SU-25s and variants. As long as you get on their tale they have a surprisingly hard time evading you and can't out maneuver you. I've downed many an SU-25 with it in top tier and even some A-10s as well

[@zinnsoldat6493]

This works with any plane , if somebody gets on your tail you are basically cooked

[@nikolaisuterovich]

Imma be honest, I thought Zoltan stole this video idea from another CC only to realize that Zoltan stole the idea from none other than Zoltan himself. The deja vu was hittin

[@waleedihsan2176]

You can fix those glitched names by going in settings and unchecking the box which says enable custom localization

[@rainesdraugelis6284]

A tip for the M901 is if your driving under 20km the turret will not stow itself

[@exobreaker6149]

object122mt is soo much fun its my top vehicle now i think ( mainly because i used it to grind a crafting event ) the vehicle itself is amazing and the atgms are a cherry on top

[@singeslayer8367]

The Bhishmas front attachment actually gets removed when you install the self-entrenching equipment

[@phloppyphish4352]

I've found the grenade launcher on the BMP-2M is great for clearing obstacles in your path, whether it be trees, fences/walls or a whole fuggin house lol

[@Brzzzyexe]

the agm-65d has an abysmal time locking and actually killing enemies so much so that i'd almost rather have manually guided bullpups

[@hotdogun]

A-4E skyhawk is one of my favorite. cuz it's my first jet

[@UwULilyKitsune]

omg thank you for the chapters

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

35:36 it says this way because it is just an apds with some fins slapped onto it

[@boopernuke8026]

The su-22m3 recently gained the ability to use up to 6 r-60mk

[@darkflafi197]

i heard squadron vehicle thought of the BMP-2M instantly and got PTSD from my 600-ish XM-1 games

[@tigerwolf721]

i have a talisman on my su22m3 and i unlocked a massive amount of the russian tree with it. love it, amazing aircraft for grinding arb and sim.

[@mrsjatits]

Me262 plane that is barely good for anything higher than previous things lol. It's on the same level with british prop