Zoom-Talk with Andreas Müller, July 15th 2021

[@wallysoto2042]

William is the best character lost in oblivion!

[@ketwals2723]

U reminded me ...noone is awake and no one is asleep either...noone is aware and noone is unaware...noone is and isn' t ...its all in between...its a kinda bardo state and not...it has no meaning and no one cares...just the one is in struggle from the real dream is asking and own light...lucian talks back. Its a awsome and beautyful monolog even in a dream...4 me its love or compassion...but u not have 2 give it any name...is not necessary ♡ Thanks Andreas...u are all gorgeous doing this apparently as dreamtalks...love it ♡

[@Michaelgallant171]

Crystal clear introduction, THANK YOU.

[@Dsdafg]

Your new book is nice, Andreas.

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

Thank you Andreas!

[@michelracicot2337]

Thanks Andréas !

[@andrewforrest108]

Paradox within paradox....I guess Andreas simply cannot compromise the freedom message....a non-existent separate dream person most probably can never see it's own absence or non-existence....nor accept it....so the dream perspective will never bridge the natural reality....where all is source, or all just simply is, without recourse for the need for existential explanation. Beautifully free talk Andreas, thank you💟

[@wallysoto2042]

Happiness is the absence of the human experience & the fulfillment of the unexplainable, just, UNHAPPENING!!!

[@jessesingersongwriter]

Great intro! Mind blowing talk.

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

😘

[@N8teyrve]

Listening to this I have no more questions because there is no I and there never really was. The “I” never died or fell away because I was never here in the first place. There’s just a flesh automaton in a soup of life made of that soup in an empty pot with no sides apparently.

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

Yes, apparently!

[@trueneutraltower]

Was listening to this at work when you said that thing about being in a restaurant and someone was saying "behave!" and I burst out laughing, like you're some kind of mischievous child or pet or something hahaha omg had me in tears.

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

Great!! :-) :-)

[@TM-vg2yw]

Love Joey!!😊❤❤

[@DonTrump-sv1si]

If what we are experiencing is not real, then what is real?

[@Fnelrbnef]

I noticed a lot of these guys, especially on Nothing Media, they all talk the same talk. There's nothing to realise, nothing to do, it's all just appearing. Well. I think they are wrong. Andreas has mentioned he was on a journey - or rather, there was an apparent seeking going on. But over some time, this character Andreas, the dream of the seeker, fell away. So it seems to me, the thing to do - apparently - is to remove the dream. Isn't this why we start to watch our thinking and feelings? Because those things, they make up the dream? I believe that over a period of - apparent time - the illusion is picked away at. And then clarity comes in. - But these people don't wanna talk about that. Because from where they are sitting, they just report what they see. Nothing and everything. But they forget that they once was like you and me. Apparently. Yes.

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

Hi Marius, I think I understand your objection - and I haven't forgotten that once there seemed to have been seeking going on here as well -, however, this would exaclty be dream: That there is a 'me' to be removed. When I was seeking, I was trying all kinds of things to create a happy me (like everyone else!!). But, instead of being successful, this seeking 'me' turned out to be non-existent. I know this may seem incomplete, yet, it is all that can be said (and even that can't be said really). The thing is that your conclusion that "the thing to do - apparently - is to remove the dream" is unavoidable on the one hand, but on the other hand is very illusion based on the assumption that there is someone in the first place.

[@premganga8822]

🌷

[@yoso585]

Think I’m just too dense to formulate questions. Though I do enjoy listening.

[@irgendjemand5584]

Hi hier ist Canali :) liebe Grüße! ❤

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

Hi Canali, liebe Grüße!! :-)

[@vanyaz4445]

I dont like people that come and have the opportunity to speak and they tell Andreas what he is. "You are that! You are this! You know u are that?"

[@iangoss7841]

It's nice there's no sense of a human computer program running here. I guess that's why I enjoy these chats despite the apparent repetition. Most of the other seeking/fixing groups I just dropped out of by now. So funny, just writing that, ....falling happens here, like falling asleep, and not falling asleep. End of message😊🙃😹

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

Yes. :-)

[@hakfilm]

Bananen Curry mit Süßkartoffeln unter einem Baum gekocht. musste ich einfach schreiben vielleicht aus purem Zufall.

[@swhite8381]

I can see very obviously there is no person . But nothing changed at all. There still appears to be a person. I also don’t understand a lot of what these speakers say. I see that everything is just happening and there a no independent soul inside the body but.. everything is the same . Even seeking . Even though I see that I am not deciding to seek. What the heck am I seeking now ? 😭 There’s so obviously no one .

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

Yes, there is no one. However, can it be seen?! Who is there to see it?! I know, it is difficult/impossible with words, however, I wouldn't regard apparent liberation as the seeing that there is no one. It is the apparent death of the seeker by the turning out that it does not exist.

[@swhite8381]

@@thetimelesswonder7437 I’m definitely not liberated . It’s like I see it very clearly but I’m still looking from a person. It’s horrible really .😆 like being trapped in a glass box

[@thetimelesswonder7437]

@@swhite8381 Ah, yes, I understand. 🙂 However, 'I am not liberated' is the dream.

[@chielklamer]

Sitting in front of a screen is no belief ,no....so neither is a body being aware of the screen a belief.

[@yoso585]

Apparently

[@chielklamer]

@@yoso585 What does that mean ? Sounds like a belief . Like Plato's cave .

[@yoso585]

@@chielklamer perhaps if one believes in what is appearing. Otherwise it would just be an appearance, would it not?

[@chielklamer]

@@yoso585 I'm not sure...For me appearing sounds like coming from somewhere but ok....I can live with that expression....But to call what is appearing everything and nothing, i would call that a belief for sure....I prefer to say all that is , is all that is ....And what that means , i just don't know. You ?