On offensive. Yes. On defense. No. At supportting. No. Yet Eresh and Percival can do the other 2 no problem even tho Percival is a 4*
@aroperdope4 ай бұрын
@@uselesshero.officialhe's nice but_____
@ayh49684 ай бұрын
Melusine if np 2 or higher, at np 1, definitely not
@alexheat69504 ай бұрын
Like😂 here I am reading then see this title then said out loud Melusine 😂
@thechocotaku48134 ай бұрын
The fact that we're tying Melusine's hands behind her back by starting her in 3rd ascension should tell you that she's undeniably the best Buster aoe lancer and best lancer overall.
@La3nus4 ай бұрын
"[Ereshkigal] does not need anything else"... don't you put that evil on us. She deserves all the buffs.
@Sb142sf4 ай бұрын
Real answer: melusine Best answer: ereshkigal I have eresh at np5, and shes great for anything, especially cq’s. Melusine is np2 and is way better for farming, but her kit is bad for cq’s from my experience
@Syokool4 ай бұрын
Not bad but needs a set of specific supports to make her work well in cq, specially Castoria. Ereshkigal is a dps/support so she's great but Melusine does give the insane dmg to end challenge quests faster bc they tend to become a lot harder if you spend many turns on them.
@VetoShizu4 ай бұрын
My brain says Melusine, my heart says Ereshkigal but my pp says Shishou.
@IchigoShinagami3 ай бұрын
Probably a misguided take (I only started playing 2 years ago), but I always saw Melusine as a Farmer with strong Challenge potential and Ereshkigal as a Challenge Unit with strong Farming potential. Melusine's 3rd skill is both a blessing and a curse to me when you need her as an ST unit.
@laovazquez9273 ай бұрын
not counting melusine's 100% charge skill is like shooting a horse in the leg and expecting it to run a marathon
@LuminousOriens3 ай бұрын
Yeah, 1:20 into the video with the biggest ass cope take I've heard. Like no sane person would actually think like that.
@Ribbonzarkuraspear3 ай бұрын
I just came to see my girl Ereshkigal at number 1 I swear her ONE Art card is soooo busted can completely refund her NP
@alexgarrett46733 ай бұрын
I love how we had to shoot Melusine in both knees to even make this a conversation, and even then she's still basically on par with the next best competition. Personally I'm always going to use Ereshkigal wherever I can just for the sake of loyalty, but yeah, Melusine is just in a tier of her own.
@mythicalskeleton15464 ай бұрын
One of my favorite things about Eresh is how she could basically solo quite a few cq even before her buff on np like the Arjuna cq
@Kaitzer4 ай бұрын
Sometimes you need to be an arts ST lancer to be the best buster AoE lancer
@arsgoetiashlomoh83033 ай бұрын
My Melusine is NP5. All these discussions about ‘handicaps’ is useless for my dragon. She’s the strongest.
@sahilm4834 ай бұрын
NP3 Level 120 Melussy haver here. She is uncontested
@bobrogromnybobr4 ай бұрын
lol sameee she's so good the only thing she lacks is powerful crit self buff, hope she gets some in future
@sahilm4834 ай бұрын
@jdhdjdjeodkfjek6921 Sadly she won't. If so, Godjuna would also need a buff as he is in the same tier as her
@bobrogromnybobr4 ай бұрын
@@sahilm483 well i don't mind if he gets a buff as well 👀 but yeah chances are miserable
@Azure704 ай бұрын
@@sahilm483 To be fair, we don’t know the criteria for Lasengle to give buffs to servants.
@dvdivine19623 ай бұрын
@@bobrogromnybobrthose crit command codes make up her lack of crit dmg. She is so busted it's ridiculous
@Marcosantoniothebluecreator4 ай бұрын
I'm kinda impressed i got the list right for almost the exact same mentality after he said "we gonna nerf* melusine, no bg for you"
@nevillegear8304 ай бұрын
Ztl: so guys who the best bust... Gilgamesh: 3× HAaA! Fool! the best buster unit is ME! ztl:.. but gil your not a lanc... Gilgamesh: fool whats the point having a tier list of busters units knowing i out rank all of them overall, but sense you still want a pointless tier list the answer is simple enkidu close 2nd to me & its not an opinion it's straight fax. Ztl: 😮💨.
@CaoHuiyin3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it’s Melusine but because she refused to come home until I hit pity, I remain loyal to Eresh who came home at NP6 in under 400sq 😂
@etutelary4 ай бұрын
This isn't really a thing. Melusine's place at the top is not really contested. Guess we could reach a consensus on the number two spot.
@ahoyforsenchou72884 ай бұрын
Melusine facerollers malding.
@Derekloffin4 ай бұрын
I have to personally give it to Mel, but because she violates the restriction on this video and is also an excellent Arts ST lancer. Eresh has some nice support potential which I think gives her that little bit to at least be equal to Mel if we ignored Mel's arts capacity, but because she does have that arts capacity, I just have to give it to Mel.
@alexanderlevi95584 ай бұрын
Well Melusine is BOTH an ST Art AND an Aoe Buster. So I was thinking ... well in "general" the best lancer is Melusine ... but if we were to ONLY look at the buster part ... still the best, but there are contenders ... and I really don't get why you would not count on starting her on 1/2 ascension and popping the 3rd skill from the get go ... And besides I mean when it comes to her, I take her Art form on CQ and her 3rd Skill Buster form on farming ... Eresh and Romulus are better picks than Buster Melu on CQs
@sibsart20394 ай бұрын
The reason why his rating is because while she does have better offense, Eresh has better survivability and support. And her damage is at least comparable now.
@alexanderlevi95584 ай бұрын
@@sibsart2039 Have you read but not understood my comment? Why the hell would anyone give an handicap of Melu that starts in her 3rd asc so no 100 battery? Which is the basis of the video which is unfair since that is basically her gimmick and her selling point. Besides ZTL changed the title of the video so are we restricting ourself on busters aoe or not? The entire video is anyway based on false and unfair premises, what are the criteria of grading them anyway? On the combined performances of CQs and farming? On farming Melu is number 1 IF allowed the 100 battery that I talked about before. If not allowed she would be a contested n 1. On CQ I already said that buster Melu is behind not only Eresh but Romulus too. But the caveut here is that you WILL NOT use a buster aoe Melu when taking on CQs BUT Arts ST Melu which is better than Eresh and Roma 90% of the time. You care very little about having defense and survability when your role is the dps in an Arts team so your teamates provides that for you
@platinooah2453 ай бұрын
@@alexanderlevi9558 oh even starting on asc3, melu still outdamages every other lancer on a VVO comp in farming. also, forgetting how many invuls and evades we get in CQs in which melu has an invul pierce on her NP is foul. during CQs, going in with merlin or castoria fixes the survivability issue anyway. and if for some reason they cant use either support some people like to forget she has a built in invul her 3rd skill. kill the enemies before they kill you 5head LMFAO so i agree, the criteria for the video is absolute rubbish.
@maaliksmith1074 ай бұрын
I ain't gonna lie ZTL you bias for Eresh is showing cause ain't nobody starting with Melusine in her 3rd ascension for buster farming. Handicapping her just to place Eresh in number 1 is really obvious
@Syokool4 ай бұрын
Very biased but still can't totally nerf Melusine. 😂
@runelsie74544 ай бұрын
As much as I love Ereshu, Her damage will simply never match Melu’s. For farming she really can’t compete
@Necro-xy5ej4 ай бұрын
It's Melu
@syxpaths58094 ай бұрын
Melusine…..no cap fellow youths
@Sb142sf4 ай бұрын
I dont think u used eresh 😂
@marcelyuzuki63764 ай бұрын
@@Sb142sfi don't think u ised Mélusine
@mantic54234 ай бұрын
I haven't watched yet but I'm gonna take a guess and say it's Melusine. Character is too broken and verstile💀 The real question is who the 2nd best lancer
@Necro-xy5ej4 ай бұрын
@@mantic5423 bro was tweaking and put melusine on 2nd place lol
@mantic54234 ай бұрын
@@Necro-xy5ej 2nd place missing a 1/3 of her kit lol. Bro had nerf her for a fair list
@jjlore56344 ай бұрын
Nerfs Melusine to make the video not be 5 secs and still has a tough time to not make her number one lol
@cocacolan17124 ай бұрын
Gareth as long as you use your imagination
@TheOmniform4 ай бұрын
tfw melusine's damage is higher even with eresh's power mod
@andrewsisson65364 ай бұрын
I still can't believe I pulled Melusine on a whim with tickets, then got her to NP2 with 60 SQ. Girl VOLUNTEERED for me.
@amaridawkins644 ай бұрын
That was arucied for me
@kinghassan20384 ай бұрын
That Lalter loop tho.
@emiru57344 ай бұрын
Melusine… like- we don even gotta yap for 18 minutes bro, it’s Melusine😭😂 but I’ll just watch anyway for the number 2 spot
@marcelyuzuki63764 ай бұрын
Mélusine is easy the best
@sooryanatarajan28144 ай бұрын
Eresh sweep
@ImSharri4 ай бұрын
As someone who owns a NP3 Eresh it’s dope to see the girl have that slight edge over Melu specifically as a Buster AOE servant. Used her in the Avalon comp with Merlin and Castoria for a few CQs and it’s just absolutely insane how cracked she is😂The versatility of her kit is so good. Blonde Rin go brrrr
@Syokool4 ай бұрын
Before and After Castoria/Oberon is a thing, and Eresh doesn't really benefit from them as much as Melusine does.
@ethanluke51304 ай бұрын
Personally, I think you have to factor in Melu's 100% battery because no one starts their Melu in third ascension because of the battery. I do agree without that factor Eresh is better though
@rey21034 ай бұрын
Bro said Saber at the start. Thought I was tripping
@lyudmiltsekov85574 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head at the very start with the "Bug i have high np level morgan", from then on we are talking about "can X do something that morgan can't" and both of the S tier lancers have broken challenge quests.
@d43m0n4124 ай бұрын
Yeah... the fact you had to gimp melusine in order to even make it a fair fight kinda says it all in 1 sentence... melusine is the girl and deserves the top slot regardless... she is the only servant with a 130% worth of batteries and can just absolutely annihilate almost any node she is put in front of... she has even proven she can take down saber nodes which is just bonkers... hard to give it up to any other servant... almost of any class... there's a reason why she is ex- tier of the gamepress tier list with only arjuna alter... their farming prowess and her ability to be paired with artoria caster for cqs just makes her one of the most flexible units in the game bar none...😂😂😂
@nf76943 ай бұрын
the most amazing part of melusine is that gamepress tier list is notorious for being terrible but even they figured out she is goated
@zen_77484 ай бұрын
Objectively, the best Lancer is Melusine for how many plays she enables. But subjectively, from the heart, Shishou will always be the best to me.
@bobrogromnybobr4 ай бұрын
well shishou better for single target sq the only real reason to use Melu in sq is if enemy constantly gets invisible status
@Syokool4 ай бұрын
@@bobrogromnybobrthat's not correct bc if you were a shishiou main, you know how much she succs at getting np. The best st lancer is easily Enkidou.
Bro handicapping Melu only to still cope that Eresh is better 😭 The meat eating go crazy 😂
@dawsonbusenbark39453 ай бұрын
I know you just did Sabers but I would love to see either ST quick sabers (like how does Setanta compare to Medusa Saber?) or AoE arts Sabers (in your opinion, HAS muramasa fallen off lately on JP?) but I will just enjoy whatever you feel like making next 🌈
@joshmcclure55624 ай бұрын
There was a reason Eresh had a full cameo in the anniversary animation due to her popularity
@KiraAotsuki4 ай бұрын
Words cannot express how happy I am to hear #1 Quick ST Lancer next please?
@zacdie3274 ай бұрын
Yeah so to make this even we nerfed the best Lancer
@jaredqu14 ай бұрын
Caenis
@jefffgo71544 ай бұрын
Gareth
@elibiosanchez41744 ай бұрын
with an NP1 romulus and NP2 melusine, WITHOUTH oberon. Farming Melusine, i'm an ROMA fan, but she's better. CQ from what i have see, Romulus its slightly better on damage and tanking. thats what i get testing them
@darthkai36213 ай бұрын
Can you make a list for the best AOE Quick lancers?
@nurventilatoren4 ай бұрын
Melusine, without a question. She might not be the most powerful in both forms, but she is one of the most versatile Servants in this game. Arts Looping, Buster Looping, Black Grail Dps-ing and even Crit Dps-ing. She can do it all (except Supporting ofc).
@poyu9993 ай бұрын
Very sad that melu got downgraded to not use her best setup just so that erish can even compare to her but dang really second?
@poyu9993 ай бұрын
Well I guess if melu got her best set up it's not just lancer lol she literally one if the best units in game period
@JoxBarter4 ай бұрын
Tiré sq por Rumulus (np1) en su día porque decían que en ese momento era el mejor lancer y nunca lo pude usar, las dos veces que lo probé (antes de que llegara Koyanskaya) nunca hacía buen daño. Es más, tenía que terminar las peleas a base de críticos porque su np era muy débil.
@glaxx93253 ай бұрын
random question but yall think the 4 star shiki will return to NA?
@platinooah2453 ай бұрын
all welfares come back thru the evocation festival
@DogDudeRulez4 ай бұрын
Honestly if Melusine ever got a buff let her 3rd skill take her out of her 3rd ascension
@dimensionvisitor76894 ай бұрын
it would be better if the transform is also optional like kuku's additional effects
@platinooah2453 ай бұрын
i was thinking of this when ptolemy was released. but in melusine's case, she wouldnt want to swap back to asc1-2 on the 3rd turn when farming. she was basically made with koyan and oberon in mind. in ptolemy's case, he doesnt have the cooldown reduc from koyan to transform him back to ST form when farming. also, ptolemy has much more cq value this way. tho, i do agree with the other comment that it should be optional instead
@SPECTREStudioN74 ай бұрын
Lancer Artoria, of course. Best BUSTY lancer.
@AssailantAttacker3 ай бұрын
I got scammed by this guy review about eresh saying she's so good but when i got an np1 melu i use her everywhere CQ and farming and the tanguska i use her and she did so great after i got melu i bench eresh 🙂 dont get scammed its still melu
@ravenralph1233 ай бұрын
Well at NP1 Melusine is way useful than Ereshkigal. Eresh needs at least NP2 to be useful and NP3 up for optimize damage.
@wouterlansdaal23374 ай бұрын
I want Romulus, I want to use draco Romulus along with maybe another roman servant. Sounds fun to me to always hit your roman special attack with draco along with all the crit buffs
@DevoteeofMamaRaikou3 ай бұрын
I like my NP2 Eresh, but it's hard to challenge Melusine, much less now that she is NP3.
@wolfdragonblood20154 ай бұрын
ok so ztl buddy pal fiendsmith you gotta understand that when we're talking about which five star is BEST we're talking like who give you the most value in the most situations. and that is unequivocally melusine here. like even if her damage is worse than eresh's (which it's not and you're wrong.) the fact she is ALSO a single target arts dps means that you get WAY MORE bang for your buck. and i say this as a rin enjoyer. like melusine is so good you can use her to farm neutral. hell you can use her to farm sabers sometimes even. i didn't have much respect for your opinion before this video but i am now legitimately asking you: have you even played this game?
@suniiun14004 ай бұрын
Of course its ereshgikal
@LuyaMbatha4 ай бұрын
Pls do quick sabers since we just got the charlemagne release and we are going to get summer skadi
@Syokool4 ай бұрын
But Charles is def not just the best quick saber but among the best sabers overall.
@joebyne60614 ай бұрын
I literally commented buster aoe lancers in the other video today
@mikecohen77163 ай бұрын
Arts Units, considering Lady Avalon is dropping soon? Or Quick units, since we're also getting Ruler Skadi?
@R3VELAT1ONS4 ай бұрын
I got the best buster lancer when I see Ereshkigal
@ARATAtaka4 ай бұрын
Just give Lalter +30% np and she will easily become the top 2 lancer in the game. Her damage is incredible!
@toadrunner13864 ай бұрын
It's EMIYA guys trust me
@uselesshero.official4 ай бұрын
He isn't even in that class.😅
@ReKP_3 ай бұрын
@@uselesshero.official hold his beer. he's about to fix that by projecting a spear.
@uselesshero.official3 ай бұрын
@@ReKP_ By the time he does that Roma has already Per aspera ad astrad his reality marble or Melusine would have transformed into Albion, or Ereshkigal has taken him to Kur or Vritra has Asurashrestha'ed him or Artoria has unleashed Rhongomyniad!
@rasoser12494 ай бұрын
Should I use my Servant Choice (The one time Chance for a 5* at the Start) to get Artoria Lancer? I got Enkidu as a Spook, so I dunno if I'd need another Lancer
@billdecou2424 ай бұрын
Enkidu is great but is more a boss killer. If you dont have an AoE Lancer Latoria is great but I would say go for coverage and pick a class you don't have. Also we around be getting the FSN 20th anni event "Soon" where you can pick a free 5 star Artoira (Saber).
@alexanderlevi95584 ай бұрын
Simple choice ... Waver
@figurecollector57964 ай бұрын
Waver is the guy to pick because supports are king in this game. Cleared all lostbelts and story with Waver+Castoria+borrowed servants from friends and almost no DPS's of my own.
@Syokool4 ай бұрын
Tbh, Waver if you don't have him, and second is Saber.
@billdecou2424 ай бұрын
@@Syokool TBF, they announced at AX we will have the FSN anni collab "Soon" (most likely by end of the year) where we get to pick up Saber Arotira for free.
@tribopower4 ай бұрын
I honestly don't see them power creeping Melusine for some good years..
@d43m0n4124 ай бұрын
I think the only unit that has power crept her is her own ruler version... but not sure if she has hit jp side of game yet
@ValkyrieSkyfall3 ай бұрын
@d43m0n412 this is a weird sentence since the JP side is the oldest version lol
@batu51804 ай бұрын
Leonidas
@donalex50104 ай бұрын
I would like to see Arts Saber next
@roywempor83954 ай бұрын
discord link isn't working
@wouterlansdaal23374 ай бұрын
How about crit servants rather than specifically a class and card type
@Syokool4 ай бұрын
Consort Yu easy win then. Specially with summer Skadi around the corner.
@wouterlansdaal23373 ай бұрын
@@Syokool what are you smoking lol, van Gogh, douman, super Orion
@JimRiley-d1r2 ай бұрын
Moore Mary Taylor Robert Hall Linda
@Reavenex3 ай бұрын
Can Ereshgikal beat quest 90++ ?? i think still lack damage
@rydervalentine36574 ай бұрын
Np 2 erish is best 😅
@Bob_Johnson3494 ай бұрын
Melli EZ
@quihuynh16474 ай бұрын
First and Melusine is all I need
@nf76943 ай бұрын
Melu better at farming, but eresh better at CQ
@becauseimlyingАй бұрын
Np 2 ereshkigal is enough?
@pedrorosa98934 ай бұрын
5 star arts lancer
@joebyne60614 ай бұрын
Support caster?
@zarwd30054 ай бұрын
Did this video even need to be made? The problem with this class is that one option is multiple levels above the others, and even lasengle can't do anything about it.