BEST CHEAP Mech KEYBOARD EVER? Tecware Phantom+ Elite!

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[@ZXTech]

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[@Billy_The_Frog]

My first ever mechanical keyboard was a tecware phantom and it was awesome. Eventhough i have upgraded from it, it was a keyboard I was very happy with for quite a few years. It was strong and sturdy enough to handle all my aggressive modding. Glad to see tecware give the phantom some upgrades

[@ZXTech]

The phantom + is good enough it doesn't need much modding at all :)

[@sourrlemons]

@@ZXTech the original phantom though, even though it sounded pretty good, it defo benefitted from some mods. thats the board i have right now with a few mods (band aid, holee, clipped + lubed stabs, akko cs switches, custom keycaps, shroud) and i honestly love this think with the mods that i added.

[@the420jamaican6]

Perfect review, I found what I was looking for in the first 1/4 of the video & stayed for the satisfaction 😊

[@ZXTech]

Thanks man!

[@lloritoovidexequield.8609]

I think the Phantom Plus Elite is a good option (white and grey colorway); the PBT keycaps in OEM profile really sold it for me (no interference with them north facing RGBs). The white and grey colorway gives me a nostalgic feel because it reminds me of the IBM Model M. If only they had an ISO layout.

[@ZXTech]

I dont think iso is common in south east asia which is why they dont have it

[@mini4dailytech982]

Thanks for your review, the pinks sound awesome. Usually the shroud cost $10/15 separately, since it's included in the set and it can be wireless $109 is plenty worth it. 👍

[@ZXTech]

Makes sense

[@sylvie3752]

I know this is kinda old to ask but, did the pink feel weightless and very light is or is it just right and not too heavy when you click on it? I'm planning to use it for fps games but at the same time, I don't want it to be too light, I want it to be balanced

[@jb678901]

I have owned the Tecware Phantom (RGB) "full size, corded" for the better part of 4 years. My favorite keyboard...ever. Not changing this baby. Excellent quality, sturdy, easy to keep clean...incredible value. Highly Recommend.

[@cristianmunoz6226]

Brother, what do you think about, this one, and the Akko 5075S white version? i know the price is diffrent but, it is worth pay little bit more for the akko?

[@RPaolo12]

I've been waiting for this!

[@ZXTech]

Nice

[@RemyVorender]

I just got a white pink key one last week. I gotta say, it sounds and feels amazing. Can't argue with the price. Super happy with it.

[@sylvie3752]

Did the pink feel weightless and very light is or is it just right and not too heavy when you click on it? I'm planning to use it for fps games but at the same time, I don't want it to be too light, I want it to be balanced

[@squwyd4047]

which would you recommend straight out of the box? (no further modding). this or rk98?

[@md.anwarhossain951]

Bro, can you confirm if the phantom+ (non elite) supports other 3 pin switches like Gaterons? Or it only supports akko switches(besides the outemu ones) like the older phantom keyboard? Much appreciated

[@ZXTech]

It does support new stuff

[@mewffhin]

Pink switch sounds awesome af 😳

[@ZXTech]

It does

[@edgararar8711]

Hello! I am In Love with this Keyboard! My question is about the software. Is it only works on Wired mode? When I use it through wireless mode the software says "Device is disconnected."

[@ZXTech]

[@sonnyy55]

Thank you! Purchased one based on your review 👍

[@ZXTech]

Enjoy!

[@oiyobest1871]

Does it have on board memory? So that macro can be saved in the keyboard and use it other computer?

[@seanaross88]

Great review! I noticed that the "FN + `~" shortcut on the phantom+ elite doesn't allow me to change individual key colors the way that the original phantom does. Have you experienced this or have you figured out how the shortcuts work on the phantom+ elite? They don't have that specific shortcut listed in the manual. Any help much appreciated 👍

[@Practitionerz]

it's working for me..

[@jinweiyo]

Which colour switch should I get? Cant make up my mind...

[@Gearsandco]

I was looking for A nice budget keyboard that has a Numpad to use at work so I stumbled across the Tecware Phantom 104. I ordered it with red switches which I will swap for something way better like Akko CS Jelly black Prelude switches and since I got so much tool left around from my previous keyboard build it's a no brainer. I hope I will like it. and for $39 I can't really complain.

[@ZXTech]

The reds are already excellent tbh

[@tobitaktlos3241]

@@ZXTech Nah .. they are pinging and scratchy. You tested this for a few hours, use this for days and you will eventually get sick of it.

[@KrutGemByte]

I got the regular tkl version yesterday and will return it in a few days since the extra switches that came with it are broken and also has a lot of pinging noise. Today I ordered the phantom+ 104 brown switches and I’m excited for it, I would’ve loved the tkl version better but it’s not available in Canada 😂.

[@tobitaktlos3241]

That pinging are the pre installed Otemu switches and unmodded stabilizers. Mine had that too, i ordered Akko switches and did some modding to the stabs and it's thocky and nice. Maybe rethink your decision and get different switches.

[@KrutGemByte]

@@tobitaktlos3241 I have the phantom+ 104 now and its good. Would be better if the spacebar is not uneven tho. I don’t really wanna mess with it cause I don’t wanna risk breaking it.

[@lavenderlemons888]

@@tobitaktlos3241 Do you have recommendations for videos on how to fix the ping/rattle of spacebar? It's the only key in the entire board that is funky. I am super new and don't have any materials. Afraid of breaking something.

[@ZXTech]

@lavenderlemons888 holee mod, wire balancing and lubing + adding dielectric grease all help

[@kehkia]

Pink Vs Red switch. if you were given the choice, which would you pick for this? Prefer on a more quiet type, but it seems like both sounded about the same.

[@theonlyvegetarian8192]

The only difference is the push force required to register the key, if the keyboard main purpose is gaming I would suggest red because it requires less force, but if its for typing and doing normal tasks then go with pink as they feel more satisfying to type on

[@ElVortices]

Are the switches hot swappable? I'm considering getting this

[@Sclqrr]

yes, the phantom+ uses outemu 3 pins socket and the phantom+ elite is fully hot-swaplable

[@ouroruo]

still got my the phantom L low profile red keycaps from a few years back, tecware stays winning in terms of value for money

[@ZXTech]

Indeed

[@user-qf7rr2jf4v]

Do you know if the shroud of the previous version fits the new one? I want the white one but amazon mexico does not have it and the shipping is too expensive to justify it (30-40USD extra) ir is it too hard to take apart for me to paint it and buy some random white keycaps.

[@ZXTech]

Im not sure

[@user-qf7rr2jf4v]

@@ZXTech Would you choose this over the Keychron C1?

[@pestbest]

Hi thank you for your review! how does this compare to the Phantom Veil 80?

[@ZXTech]

This is better but no knob

[@pestbest]

@@ZXTech ok thank u ordered one

[@ruzaqir354]

Hello new subs here. Just wanna ask what switch should i choose when im playing game like world of warcraft.

[@sky2659]

Wraith reds or pinks sound good and good for gaming

[@ZXTech]

Pinks

[@adriannasyraf3534]

matte silver aluminium cover would fit my razer mercury white themed setup

[@ZXTech]

For sure

[@johnlee3830]

Great video as always! Is this keyboard hot swappable?

[@ZXTech]

Of course! Standard hotswap. No point tho: super premium feeling switches

[@johnlee3830]

@@ZXTech Appreciate it! This would be my next keyboard. Wish they included a volume knob though, I'm a sucker for knobs haha

[@ZXTech]

@@johnlee3830 Same! Tecware has the Veil 80 I guess, but stock it aint as good

[@04phanthanhbinhjake9]

I wonder should i buy this now? Also i heard the ducky one 3 is pretty good For around 100$ or under is even better what do you recommend for a first timmer

[@ZXTech]

Yeah this is still great

[@04phanthanhbinhjake9]

@@ZXTech what full size keyboard you recommend under 100$?

[@xiujk71]

any idea if the tecware phantom+ (non elite) can fit switches from other brands? like gaterons, akko cs or ajazz switches, incase im feeling adventurous in future hahah

[@ZXTech]

Yea

[@xiujk71]

@@ZXTech cool, thats great to know, may grab one of the non-elite ones. thanks alot hahah

[@rifathossain8940]

@@xiujk71 do let me know if you get one

[@xiujk71]

@@rifathossain8940 juz changed my plans. im planning gonna go with akko 5075s barebone kit since i've alr set my sights on other switches, and the thick silicon padding is a big plus for me hahah

[@Randomcoffee]

Hey bro, which has better value for money? Phantom elite or keychron v1?

[@gaudejavu]

same question

[@eliezerpacheco201]

This is a great keyboard for the price!!! I got a Razer that I got last year for over 150$ and I got the regular phantom for my son gamer set up and when I when to try to install some software in his computer i did not notice how good this keyboard can be!!! His keyboard cost me 40$ my cost 150$ i never try it because of the price difference!!! but men I was wrong!!! I got me know the Phantom Elite 87 and i Love It!!!!

[@ZXTech]

Glad u realised!

[@First_Grafter]

Is there any difference in de sound between the elite and non elite? Not the sound of the switches but the actual boards? (maybe that like the battery makes a sound difference or something)

[@ZXTech]

Sound not really.

[@First_Grafter]

@@ZXTech okay thanks :)

[@meirtolpin11]

Is Phantom+ (not elite) hot swappable with Akko switches like the Phantom ?

[@sourrlemons]

it's hotswap, 3 pin only (elite is 5 pin) but idk what type it is. i'd assume its compatible with akko

[@jebbur439]

Do you think this keyboard default switch can handle cerakey caps?

[@ZXTech]

Unlikely, the switches are light

[@nanthiny8634]

btw what watch are you waering looks good

[@ZXTech]

Some Russian army style watch

[@GXMania]

i wonder if the orange switch can be compared to akko cream blue. im planning to get one with the tactile switches

[@ZXTech]

Havent tried the creams, but the orange is good

[@GXMania]

@@ZXTech yes i already bought one with orange switches nice yung sound ng keyboard premium quality talaga

[@aidanthacker5846]

Where can I get them from, can't find them anywhere in the UK

[@ZXTech]

Unfortunately only can be found in SEA right now unfortunately

[@Shime]

too bad i can't find the + in stock anywhere

[@iDeker]

I’m a bit bummed. Only just bought the regular 87 key board in July 2022 and while it’s good I would’ve loved the v3 stabs, better foams, switches ect. I wish maybe they could give pre owners some cool stuff

[@ZXTech]

Haha i guess you can try to ask em

[@sourrlemons]

lmao same

[@cristianmunoz6226]

Can we say, that its better buy a this new tecware than a royal kludge 87? (i dont really care the wireless options)

[@samyap0809]

rk is ass bro

[@takkixidiz]

Can you still use the old shroud on the plus version?

[@ZXTech]

I doubt it

[@awesomearticwerefox]

any idea on where to buy the phantom elite at i cant find it even at amazon

[@ZXTech]

Not available globally yet

[@usernameremoved]

how do you turn off the yellow light under the white shift lock light

[@ZXTech]

Software

[@jimmyleshe8949]

Can someone please let me know how to charge the keyboard so the power light goes back to white

[@xaxaxaxazazaxa5906]

sorry but if the phantom+ elite is wireless how do you know if the battery is fully charged or how do u know its charging?

[@HerpaDerpaZX]

The battery indicator led is under the caps lock led

[@alshah914]

@@HerpaDerpaZX how long should i plug the usbc till it fully charges?

[@HerpaDerpaZX]

@@alshah914 I usually charge it until the yellow LED turns white

[@Warboss777]

What about royal kludge m75?

[@shangithaq4325]

Which switch is the most thocky from the choices?

[@ZXTech]

Orange if i recall

[@tktk3392]

You mentioned that the elite was a great value. Did you mention a price I must have missed it.

[@ZXTech]

Put it at the start :)

[@GamingOFFICIAL1]

hey bro, are phantom+ keyboard compatible with other 3 pin switches?

[@ZXTech]

Yes

[@GamingOFFICIAL1]

@@ZXTech thanks bro gonna buy me a tactile switch incase haha!

[@gambitvfx5201]

Hey do you recommend the phantom + or the old phantom 2020?

[@ZXTech]

This new one

[@gambitvfx5201]

@@ZXTech u recommend this new phantom+ elite over the other two?

[@ZXTech]

@@gambitvfx5201 ye

[@danishiman1593]

I will buy this soon lmao

[@nanthiny8634]

where can i buy this got any affiliate link ?

[@ZXTech]

Not on sale yet I don't think

[@pugalaxeigames5175]

looks very nice, where can i buy??

[@ZXTech]

South east asia will be lazada and shopee

[@jonathancaburnay8231]

Hi, does it have a dedicated button to switch to mac layout?

[@ZXTech]

Not that I know of unfortunately

[@jonathancaburnay8231]

@@ZXTech But can you switch it to mac layout using any key combination?

[@liberteus]

Damn, when do we get these in North America? I need to buy two of these to replace crappy keyboards that died recently, plus, given that you've got dongle+cable+Bluetooth I'll be able to use them on laptop with Bluetooth, on gaming pc cabled, and on a third PC with dongle (not at same time obviously) and i won't have to plug dongle etc everytime!!!

[@ZXTech]

I doubt itll reach NA soon haha sorry

[@liberteus]

Dang but why? They're excellent!!!

[@ZXTech]

Small company hard to expand i guess

[@johnlee3830]

@@liberteus tecware mentioned that they’ll be shipping these models to America soon ◡̈

[@ZXTech]

Oh damn awesome!

[@Riku7okester]

Does this wireless keyboard have a latency ? Anyone can give me advise… since if we play games with this keyboard, it will be a problem if there is latency… anyone can give me a feedback?

[@ZXTech]

Not noticeable to me

[@ervintan8439]

Any idea when it will go on sale?

[@ZXTech]

No word, but I hope by eoy

[@barryestocapio9]

can you still replace their switches with akko switch?

[@ZXTech]

Ya

[@elijahpalaca665]

Which switch is the most loud?

[@ZXTech]

Orange

[@ikroyeo]

Is the spacebar ticking a quality control defect?

[@ZXTech]

Usually a manufacturing shortcoming

[@ikroyeo]

@@ZXTech is slight ticking on the space bar a severe issue?

[@ediju2816]

Does 2.4ghz mode have 1000hz polling rate?

[@ZXTech]

Im quite sure

[@SegaSnatchers]

I can't find the Elite anywhere to buy.

[@ZXTech]

Only available in south east asia for now from what I heard

[@tanmaykhairnar3577]

My dream keyboard ....

[@ZXTech]

Nice

[@sjef2438]

Where can you buy the phantom+ elite?

[@ZXTech]

In south east asia on lazada

[@dhan1001]

I still cant find it sold in indonesia

[@ZXTech]

Gotta wait a little, it isn't sold there yet, maybe in a few weeks

[@neonutsies]

👍

[@excxssive]

where can I buy this?

[@ZXTech]

SEA and america

[@Mah-yc1po]

where to buy in Europe?

[@ZXTech]

Not available there I don't think

[@Jo-ne7jc]

It is different from tecware phantom+ plus tkl?

[@ZXTech]

Thats the keyboard in the video

[@ZXTech]

I covered both the elite and the normal plus :)

[@FxxedUpAI]

Hi, great video! i also recently got myself a phantom elite 87 pink switches. Everything is fine except the spacebar, im new to mechanical keyboards. can you share how to get the spacebar fix ? thanks man

[@ZXTech]

Look up the lubing and adding dielectric grease to your stabilizers! There's plenty of great guides on fixing your stabs(as they are called) that can explain it better visually then I can here :)

[@Kaii.2]

where tf do i buy this i cant find it anywhere

[@ZXTech]

South east asia

[@naufaldanial3645]

My laptop did not detect this keyboard if I used the cable. Anyone knows how to fix this?

[@kyosukeshidou1370]

im 100% sure that you didn't switch the mode to USB Mode on the back of the keyboard.... it won't detecting it as wired if you still in 2.4GHz mode or OFF

[@taras_fit]

Which one is best for gaming? The reds aren’t even available from what I’m seeing 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@kyosukeshidou1370]

Pink is quite ... "heavy" ? so the one that close to RED is Orange .. its just had a little tactile bump to it .. soooo I think Orange is the best middle choice.. and I think Pink and Brown is best for Typing cuz the actuation force is heavier

[@taras_fit]

@@kyosukeshidou1370 Ty for the reply. I wish they would bring back the reds.

[@ZXTech]

Fair enough, but i guess you could always switch the switches of your wasd keys out for example if its too heavy

[@taras_fit]

@@ZXTech which one is your fav for gaming?

[@Burenyuu]

Brown or Orange?? I'll mostly be gaming with it

[@Practitionerz]

I went with the orange, but with the sound test seems like both are good options

[@Burenyuu]

@@Practitionerz Yeah, I'm typing this with the orange. I enjoy the snappier bump.

[@lceorangutan]

this isnt a pro or elite or whatever its called of the 87, the elite is just "87 elite" this is elite version of "tecware phantom plus" which is in anyway better refreshed 87, so basically really really fucking good

[@catlover5958]

The pink switch sound kinda thocky

[@ZXTech]

Indeed

[@leotpaderno5828]

where i can buy the phantom + elite i can't find it anywhere edit: i'm from italy

[@cristianmunoz6226]

So bad that ugly gray keycaps :(