2000 Honda S2000 vs 2023 Honda Civic Type R - Head to Head Review!

[@coolguy91975]

Love my AP1. With 6psi boost, CR suspension and Type S rims, it doesn't get old even after having it for over 15 years.

[@scrutch666]

How many miles did you collect?

[@coolguy91975]

@@scrutch666 101k so far

[@scrutch666]

@@coolguy91975 ah so you really only take it out on weekends, thats low for 15 years . I bought my 3-4 years ago and already did 30k miles . I live next to the mountains and drive it if weather allows on a short loop couple times a week.

[@gangsta_pigeon8023]

supercharged or turbo? And why’d you choose it over the other

[@coolguy91975]

@@gangsta_pigeon8023 SC. Simplicity and reliability, while maintaining the original character.

[@joogullae3456]

Bro S2000 all day all year every hour every day till im gay

[@Zygrene]

24/7/365

[@Technoirz]

Me too i will turn gay if i have to.

[@cdpb96]

i eat as btw 😅

[@Technoirz]

@@cdpb96 💩 eww

[@johng81818]

I don’t think you have to wait too long for that last part because you’re definitely already there.

[@Datsun510zen]

I drove my stepfather's AP1 out on highway 94 SoCal a few times. In the same time period I was having the time of my life behind the wheel of my buddy's E36 M3 on the track (Sears Point then, now Sonoma Raceway). I have to be honest, although the S52 had an ass load more torque, the S2K's hyperactive F20C and unreal tight and nimble chassis shocked the hell out of me. I'd never experienced how 300lbs and low center of gravity could make such a huge difference. We all know Fenton's passion for the AP1, so for him to actually acknwledge the performance of the '23 Type R as superior is really saying something.

[@19hundoc47]

It’s not that hard to out perform an S2000 these days. It’s about how the car makes you feel.

[@iCozzh]

“Really saying something” id fuckin hope so its 22years newer..

[@iCozzh]

@@19hundoc47 its hard to beat a supercharged one, bringing the s2k up to date with a little over 400brake the car feels insane

[@Datsun510zen]

@@iCozzh The M3 and S2K were 3 years apart, not 22. You and hundo missed the point. Fenton measures almost every track car he reviews to the S2000 so kind of an ironic joke.

[@iCozzh]

@@Datsun510zen im talking about the 23 type r and the ap1 dude…

[@ThatManAnt]

As an s2k owner, it’s still king. But I also haven’t owned or driven an NSX. If you could have the s2k as your weekend car, and ctr daily… that’s my 2023 goal lol.

[@TheChannel1978]

I think the nsx would drive more neutral compared to an AP1 thanks to its longer wheel base. I think the gear ratios are too long to make it an exciting drive like in an S2k. Everything about the s2k maximises excitement like in no other car I can think of [unless you have money to buy a gt3, 458 or perhaps a Lotus]

[@j.3854]

I have a lot of seat time in a 2000 Modified NSX 6MT. and a little in a few S2000’s. The NSX is an animal compared to a S2000. Even in stock form, when on throttle hard, the entire front end lifts off the ground and you can really feel it. Our car had 200lbs weight reduction and maybe 10-20 hp worth of breathing mods. Made a big difference, as even the NSX’s V6 is fairly low torque.

[@sengvang3718]

Have a 23 CTR for daily and 07 AP2 for a weekend car. All I need next is a nsx and it's complete.

[@BigBear--]

I love how easy the FL5 is to rotate mid-corner with some lift-off oversteer. It rotates like no other front wheel drive car I've ever driven. That makes it feel so much more nimble and playful...They really got it right on the overall design and tuning with this one.

[@vtecharrys.6981]

Have you driven an Integra Type-R? It does the same. I still see old ITR's beating new CTR's (times) in auto-x. Imagine a 2600 pound car with good adjustable shocks cornering vs. the 3200lb CTR. Same with the 2800lb S2K. With shocks or a spring/shock combo the S2000 is the best handling car out there - it's really insane how well they corner, and the steering ratio and responsiveness is so amazingly quick in the S2K. I will take a 2600-2800lb car for the fun factor any day over a 3200lb car, and with some good aftermarket brake pads both ITR and S2K will stop on a dime. Weight still plays a big role in the nimble/playful/fun-factor dynamics, and don't forget those cars do not have electric steering giving a lot more road feel which = "fun to drive".

[@BigBear--]

@@vtecharrys.6981 I was talking about more modern cars. I don't deny those older cars are fun as hell to drive, however you're comparing modified cars to stock cars. In stock form those cars don't really hold a candle to a new FL5 in actual performance. As for modifying...that can be done to all platforms...I'd argue that a modified FL5 will still beat a modified Integra. There's just too much difference in actual chassis development, as far as raw performance. You could I guess come up with some super specific test that an old Integra would beat an FL5 just cause it's lighter...maybe...but that would have be some very specific scenario, and I'd have a hard time coming up with one. The S2000 is a bit if a different beast all together. Its a small 2 seater rear wheel drive coupe. Again, unmodified still doesn't come anywhere close, but it has more potential in modified form.

[@DudeThedudesky]

​@BigBear-- the modified type r still is probably better. Check out the type r tcr or type r spoon racing. But you could still make it possibly better you would need wide wheels loads of downforce about 400 500 hp with a supercharger or fast spooling turbo. Both cars are amazing.

[@BigBear--]

​@@DudeThedudesky ~400 is pretty easy even with a stock turbo. 500 will require a turbo upgrade. You can go real big on the K-series if you want to...though anything above 500-550, will start to require increasing amounts of block/head work. If you want to though 1000+ is very doable. Though at that point it becomes increasingly hard to comfortably daily the thing.

[@DudeThedudesky]

@BigBear-- I meant for the s2000 that 400 500 hp would be perfect with a supercharger. Of course you would need alot wider wheels front and rear downforce and good tires I'd also install a beefy roll cage.

[@super_hondas]

As you will probably know, in the UK we got the AP1 S2000 with the rash of modifications that the AP2 got, but still maintaining the 9000 rpm red line. It means that you can have more confidence in the handling dynamics and makes for, in my opinion, a better package for back road driving. I wonder if you have ever had the chance to try the UK version. It would be good to hear what you think

[@Zygrene]

Jealous. AP2 with AP1 engine sounds like a lot of fun.

[@TheBishop12]

whats up with the headlight washers though and is that still a mandate?

[@frankphipps]

Man I love how you describe the type r and the driving dynamics so articulately. I'm waiting for mine and you description just make me more inpatient to try it myself. Awesome review

[@GSTRification]

Awesome video. I myself is a FR junkie never considered FF cars throughout my life but FL5 CTR really changed my perspective. Having 2 growing toddlers definitely contributed to bigger space of FF cars. Being an automobile designer my past life, I am still not fond of a long front overhang, short dash to axle, a pillar touchdown position of FF proportions but at least in FL5 I wouldn’t be embarrassed seen in one. My color choice to get would be darker hue, black color masks the black rear wing nicely as well as the gaudy front overhang. Currently #1 spot at 2.5k ADM for CTR and #4 soot for GR Corolla at msrp. Let’s see where it takes me but CTR would be the choice even with ADM

[@nickvlaanderen]

I live in Europe, there all the S2000's have the 2 liter engine unless it is a import out of Europe. I own my 2002 S2K since 2010, bought with about 80k kilometers on it, now it almost has 190000kms and i'am still in love with that car. I must say, i like it such a long time because it is NOT my daily. I drive it in my free time when the wether is good in spring and summer. I drove it on Spa Francorchamps, the Nürburgring, in the Alpes, German Highway and a lot on twisty roads in the Eifel hills. Those are the places where you have fun with car. Traffic jam and with the top up in the rain in busy cities and going to the supermarket is not the place wherefore Honda built the S2K. Nowadays cars with lowtorque turbo engines are faster and must more easier to drive fast, but that don't cares me, they all miss the driving feeling of a S2K. And why not compare a S2K with a new car?........Maybe comparing the S2K with the FL5 is not the right one, RWD compared to FWD but S2K comparing with GR86? For example, here in Holland the GR86 costs 65K Euros because of the very high CO2 taxes, for half the price you can buy a nice used S2K .

[@jimiverson3085]

To be fair, the FL5 isn't a sports car. When a car has room for 4 dead bodies in the back, that's a little too practical to be a sports car.

[@ll.7927]

It depends. I do agree it’s is slow. It’s slower than 2010 Camaro around tracks. Which says a lot

[@zcmdzpp127]

TypeR badge defy this definition 😂

[@Beezy_Builds]

Loved the owners comments at the end, I'd love to hear more from the owners

[@racsowang]

Honda’s finest. Then and now.

[@rjbriscoe860]

Awesome review! I currently have an AP1 S2000 and an FK8, but since the FL5 came out I’ve been considering trading R for R. This is definitely helping me make a decision

[@MetalsForBrunch]

keep the fk8 and save for the new type R

[@rjbriscoe860]

@@MetalsForBrunch . I'd rather buy an F8O m3 for the. price if I was gonna keep the fK8

[@I.LikeCars]

I own an AP2 S2000 and a classic air cooled 911, I chuckle a little bit when people tell me how raw my 911 is.

[@gangsta_pigeon8023]

the ap2 is more raw even though it’s considered less raw than the ap1? Or did i read what you said wrong

[@30hours51]

@@gangsta_pigeon8023he’s saying the s2k is more raw than the 911

[@mickeyhartsell6096]

Wow ❗️ that black S2000 is beautiful 😍

[@kjwong4730]

I miss my s2k dearly, regret selling it, but when I first bought back in 2016, it was because of this channel and zygrenes review of the car that convinced me to get one

[@TheChannel1978]

About to sell my s2k because of relocation and miss it already. Definately the best drivers car I ever owned , taught me so much and rewarded becoming a not-so-shit driver.

[@Zygrene]

You're an OG!

[@ronl471]

I really enjoyed how both of you could describe your experiences FL5 vs FK8 vs AP1 vs AP2 so eloquently. Great video!

[@brochill6025]

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[@apolloandratti7922]

Another great comparison Fenton. Always a good day to take out a stock AP1 to freshen up one's driving skills.

[@StatusSymbol]

I love the way you explain how cars can be comparable in driving experience even being completely different on paper. When I first started watching this video I said to myself “this isn’t exactly a good comparison” but the way you explained it, they really are comparable. 👌🏾

[@dvh8543]

S2k ❤ timeless car

[@ericandren6400]

Thanks for the review, really interesting to get some proper feedback on how the FL5 feels. I have had many cars and tracked most of them (s2k, m3E46, TTRS, S4 B8, FK8, M2 etc) The S2000 is good but my face lifted 2004 AP1 too me had three problems, the steering was sharp but kind of lacked in feel, it’s was kind of slow and the snap oversteer made it hard to drive on the limit. FK8 has an amazing chassis and is just so compliant leven in R mode, awesome brakes and amazing turn in and steering feel. I just wish the engine was less laggy and had better acceleration grip. I actually wanted to buy a FL5 but only 9 is coming to my country, so I ordered a RS3 instead, we will see how it compares to my previous cars. I am looking forward to test drive an FL5 in the future!

[@jimiverson3085]

I owned an AP2 S2000 and the handling was more forgiving. That came home when I was at an autocross and a guy in an AP1 lost the back end in the slalom section. The car came around so hard that he slid into a light pole that no one, including the organizers, though a car could reach.

[@TheChannel1978]

For sure. It's just that some drivers can make use of it, others can't. Some also like the entertainment value of having a more active car. I spun my AP1 on a roundabout in my first few days of ownership but since then paid more attention and got a lot of fun out of its active handling.

[@1HeatWalk]

AP2 is more refined for average drivers. The rear suspension is softer the rims are wide and bigger.

[@fhowland]

The AP2 still isn’t an “easy” car to drive and can easily catch you off guard

[@pitpl_]

I had EP3 (I loved it! K20 n/a, it was a masterpiece), since 2 years I own FK8. It's a great car, very versatile and fast, but it's probably my last modern Honda. I'm a bit bored already with FWD hothatches. I came to the conclusion that this car is too versatile. One car can't be the best at everything, best on track, best on long journeys etc. The effect is that FK8 is "average" in everything. Average on the track (fast but not as fun as RWD), average on the road on long jurneys (noisy inside, poor sound system). I came to the conclusion that I need two cars, funcar/trackcar and the second, comfortable family car. In 2023 I will probably sell FK8, and I hope to get SUV + car trailer + proper track car (MX5, S2000, Cayman, M2, or maybe Clio 3/4 CUP (factory car by RENAULT SPORT with sadev sequential gearbox... I am considering a lot of options as you can see... :D ). By the way thanks so much for all your videos, I really enjoy watching the car reviews/comparisons you make.

[@TheChannel1978]

This is the way. Hot hatches are never going to drive as well as RWD. 100% true. Only the slightest study of driving dynamics reveals that nobody wants to remove traction from their fron axle at the end of a corner by using driving force on the front axle rather than the rear axle. Anyhow, geek stuff but it IS true.

[@criSOME1]

@@TheChannel1978 not unless you have a short enough wheelbase to rotate the car in a turn. Watch how front wheel rally works. High powered hot hatches have always existed for a reason

[@kseriesdan9722]

My 930kg ek hatch with kswap is still something else to drive . Love 8700rpm rush

[@Lyod13]

You have good content and LOTS of it! Keep it up! You will be famous and doing this fulltime soon enough!

[@5thtenn]

My 2005 S2000 will be in my garage when I'm gone.

[@gosha7673]

Type r in black looks better than white

[@davidhayes4814]

The Honda S2000 has a cult following… as it should. It was twice the price of the first Civic Type R, which even in standard form could match it around most circuits… £14K vs £28K.

[@z32luvr]

You didn’t touch on the FL5 gearbox compared to the S2K. How does it stack up? Great review BTW!

[@Zygrene]

Yeah, after filming I realized I forgot to address this! The FL5 transmission feels virtually the same as the FK8, except without the common 2-3 grind issue. Solid 8 out of 10. S2K transmission is 10/10.

[@DiamondHandsHodl]

@@Zygrene What about S2k transmission vs Porsche GT4? Or am I stupid for asking that question? LOL

[@TheChannel1978]

@@DiamondHandsHodl The answer is still s2k. Porsche manuals in GT cars are good but not great like in an s2k. And the ratios are way too long to the point where some say Porsche neutered it, it only gave the GT3 the 'correct' gear ratios.

[@Zygrene]

@@TheChannel1978 exactly!

[@salimrandall]

“It’s so good” just about sums it up.

[@porschegt2346]

Yup. True enthusiasts prefer the Fl5 looks over the boy racer slapped on wide body over the top look of the Fk8.

[@TheMadTitanM5]

Still own my 02 s2k. I’ll probably never get rid of it. That’s how special that car is to me. Never driven anything like it. BTW, I’m from the Bay Area. Is that Calaveras?

[@Weuds]

I knew it was Michael's car. Glad to see you got to drive one.

[@Krazy_Shorts]

Man, that fake engine sound is pretty bad...otherwise, such a sweet car!

[@TheChannel1978]

If the engine sounds bad, what is the point? Unless the aftermarket can make it sound decent.

[@1HeatWalk]

It's turbo, can't hit high rpms with such high boost pressure. That's the sacrifice of going boost. You can try to supplement with a loud exhaust. I think this is the first turbo Honda made out of the factory. We still don't know how reliable the engine is. Usually N/A are more reliable than boost.

[@J3Fox00]

@@1HeatWalk Agreed, and the first factory turbo K-series was actually the K23A1 that came in the ‘07-‘12 RDX Turbo.

[@usmannoor6428]

Subscribing just because of this video! Wanted to know how the new Type R felt compared to my mintish AP1.

[@Zygrene]

Welcome to the channel!

[@usmannoor6428]

Glad to be here, love your reviews focusing on what enthusiasts care about, the driving experience and vehicle dynamics!

[@pawnphilavong1733]

@@Zygrene since you've driven both the FK8 LE and FL5. Which one do you prefer driving?

[@Zygrene]

@@pawnphilavong1733 I need to test them back to back. FL5 felt 95% the same as the FK8 on that day.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

Great video! Love to see your comparison and the owner thoughts at the end were great too

[@SuperPandaren]

Have you scored these cars in the Spread Sheets? I really love comparing the scores with other cars to set as a baseline that I can relate to. thanks!

[@Zygrene]

Yup, ZPI has been updated! docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QoqAWydVYdy-MARBWKOzGOPhF30SxPeiUwGa1tuV5BE/edit?usp=drivesdk

[@SuperPandaren]

@@Zygrene thanks my man!

[@dtongkas]

Great review videos. I’ve been enjoying them but one thing I would improve is more exterior driving shots please.

[@darksunrise8777]

The fact that the FL5 can even be compared to a great RWD sports car like the S2000 is already a win in my book. Not talking about performance where the FL5 is faster, but from a feel/driving dynamics perspective. It looks much better now compared to the FK8, just too bad about all the markups.

[@chrissvieyra7]

I’ve owned 2 AP1s before I got an FK8 Type R. I love my R but I definitely miss my AP1.

[@a124as]

S2000 is legendary

[@bannister556]

If you need to put 2 car seats in the back, the Civic seems like a logical choice . . . Front wheel drive is an inherently compromised layout.

[@rattaponlertpiriyapong1187]

S2000 is great but fl5 is better. I love my first civic type r. Gear box need a short shifter. Then it will shift better than s2000. I have no issue with heel toe. Power everywhere no need vtec to kick in at 5.2k rpm

[@FreshYoungDude]

Need to buy another S2 before they’re all 50 grand.

[@davidpineda645]

selling mines for 38k

[@Zygrene]

Don't we all 😔

[@cameronnorman4188]

I'm still on the fence about getting one. Ive never owned an S2K but I have owned (Integra, RSX, Prelude, Civics, even an FRS. But with these prices, the new GR is very tempting but everytime I go to place my deposit for one I cant help but think ill regret not getting an S2K. It would be my daily thou.

[@z32luvr]

Prices are down on S2K’s compared to the last few years. Now is definitely the time to buy one.

[@scrutch666]

@@cameronnorman4188 its an awful daily, you can do it and on a sunny day its great but otherwise i wouldnt recommend it

[@wesleyrice2138]

Finally, zygrene's FL5 video! Looks really good in black, too.

[@davegelink]

I hate how high the bonnet sits from the side-view on the Civic. But thats modern safety standards I guess.

[@Bmstanfill]

What do you think about the new type R swap for the s2000? How do you think that would change your opinion between the 2?

[@jacksonhui581]

Hey I’m in the Bay Area too. What road is this.

[@tinhinnh]

wow civic looks huge 😮

[@jimbochoo3316]

Same length as the accord of the 90s. Think of it as an accord type R

[@MrBTRDAYZ]

Curious if anyone has driven both the CTR FL5 and the 2023 Audi RS3. From a perspective of pure driving fun, how would you rate the 2 cars against each other?

[@fastlane2914]

Just discovered your channel, great presentation on the new civic type r 👍

[@Zygrene]

Welcome to the channel!

[@TheKingkingg]

2 different but awesome cars from same manufacturer

[@brochill6025]

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[@JDMcam702]

That FL5 Type R in black looks amazing

[@rj8954]

So we all agree the CTR is a great car. But at what price point(markup) is it no longer worth it in your opinion ?

[@Zygrene]

In my opinion, you can make a solid argument for it at 10k markup.

[@pbmcgme176]

AP1 checking in....no contest s2k all day. If you need space get literally any other POS car and keep the s2k. Unique sports car developed with a unique engine in quite possibly the greatest era. The s2k is NOT a daily. It's your weekend car that you romp on for smiles.

[@DonBMW]

3:51 no greater truth has been spoken. The king of the manual gearbox is the S2000. Have driven Porsches, BMWs, Toyotas and Nissans. Nothing shifts better and more precise than an S2000.

[@RAY_FILET]

Black always looks the best

[@danielchoi6477]

Best review..now, how is this new Type R compare to the Elantra N 6spd in the handling department?

[@oneviwatara9384]

Type R is what you want.

[@Zygrene]

Now that's a great comparison video idea!

[@retrograde11]

I would say this, Elantra N offers 90%-95% of type R at 75% price. If you can comfortably afford type R, then absolutely get the Type R. Else, go with Elantra N and enjoy!

[@porschegt2346]

@@retrograde11but 5% of the Rs looks. The Elantra is awfully ugly.

[@pan4632]

any idea when you'll get to try a GR Corolla?

[@Zygrene]

Your guess is as good as mine. I'm on the wait list at my dealer but haven't heard any updates.

[@romeundernero]

What roads are you driving on?

[@Goltijin12]

HOW ABOUT THE VTEC????

[@CubanDre]

How would you compare the FL5 to your very own brz?

[@Zygrene]

Sounds like a future video idea 😏

[@CubanDre]

@@Zygrene definitely interested in that comparison. I’m still going to wait out the market. But the FL5 is a solid number 2 To a GT car for a track toy.

[@1HeatWalk]

Those 2 cars are completely different. Drive train and powerplant to make let are completely different. They are almost polar opposites.

[@retrograde11]

Zygrene, if you were to buy either new car today, which one would you pick, if could get the type r at MSRP?

[@mharro88]

How do you compare it to the Elantra n?

[@Zygrene]

I'll see if I can film this comparison

[@mharro88]

@@Zygrene that'd be amazing 🤩

[@grantkahale8933]

The question is does it still overheat on track?

[@fhowland]

Why would someone mod a brand new Type R! They’re perfect from the factory.

[@bige7186]

S2000 for me any day of the week 🤣

[@haochenyang6467]

nice review

[@billshoe22191]

No question the S2000 by quite some margin. Just listen to how horrible that Civic a type R sounds. Add to that what stearlerships are charging for the Civic and I’d get an Elantra N and a S2000 for the same amount of money. Put the current gen CTR wheels and tires on the prior gen and it will be faster than the new one yet people are paying $55-$60k for the new one

[@mluevanos]

Looking forward to this.

[@joeblack5421]

s2000 aNYDAY.

[@Mmedina87]

The engineers spend lots of time in suspension R&D and this guy just swaps the springs out immediately? Bouncy ride looked terrible.

[@michaelowens3672]

You compared the power steering of the two but sort of wrote off the EPS in the R as being a typical EPS. The S had EPS too...

[@bobbyrios2k223]

FL5 looks so good inside and out, but man that engine sounds bad 😂 I like this talk with the driver after. Thats good they helped the heating issue a bit.. any help is good help

[@fhowland]

Love my AP2! My daily is a 08 Civic Si. Really feeling the itch to get the new type R but trying to resist lol.

[@needurskullz]

Best combo!

[@joocytran7172]

I have the same combo! The Si needs work done though but slowly but surely

[@Abu-pp8vw]

Both totally different car, s2000 is made for fun while type r for time attack. Civic should be faster in allround comparison, s2000 handling should out performed civic.

[@MetalsForBrunch]

s2000 is the drivers raw naturally aspirated car with rwd. The Fwd civic type R is quicker and faster with all the tech but lacks the sleekness/naturally aspirated raw sound Honda is known for. I hate the fake engine noise in the civic type R. I love civics but fake engine noise.... really...?

[@TheChannel1978]

I hate that about it too. Type-R means emotion. I can't believe all the marketing BS when they serve up an engine that is competent but sounds crap. They've basically sacrificed their heritage of high-revving engines to become an engine maker that is competent without emotion. Just great.

[@big-R]

Love how these look

[@mushy18100]

With this video, I will buy an FL5R and also keep my 04 AP2 for a double whammy feeling 👌🏼

[@Holtenstein]

I would take an S2000 AP2 all day! Preferably with a hard top. So much cooler car and still looks better than these new cars

[@avengingeyes4041]

I believe the supra would be a better choice for those backroads and it's also rearruled drive the suspension is not as harsh as the type bar where it only excels in a perfectly flat track unlike the supra that can also be good on the flat track does really good on back roads So if you really think that that was the fastest you can go on that back road with the type bar I can't wait to see your reaction when you drive the super GR in that same back road.

[@s2kgpwcrlee126]

FL 5 is underwhelming for the price keep FK8

[@xmistaxcashxcoll]

My two dream car!

[@umaireg6]

Just for the record the fk8 pulls away from the new R as far as acceleration goes. The gearing slowed it down.

[@Zygrene]

Yup. I imagine the longer gearing might make it quicker at some tracks

[@TornadoOfSouls777]

What was the dealer markup on the '23 R?

[@jimmyinthaphanh2993]

Anywhere from $5k-$25k

[@TornadoOfSouls777]

@@jimmyinthaphanh2993 🤡 Clown World Dealers

[@TonmoyGhosh]

The people paying the markup are the 🤡 s

[@gssavage2964]

Title name should be The new 2023 Honda Sedan type r vs 2000 Honda s2000 dashoo

[@1HeatWalk]

I thought the civic is a hatch

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

Accord type R

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

i own both.. There is no comparison. S2000 is the better car.

[@brochill6025]

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[@kenxiong6830]

Dnt even need to waste my time watching the video. The clear choice for any real enthusiast is the S2K!

[@BitcoinTo150K]

Glad he's tracking a Supra now much better track car

[@johnmitchell2269]

One is a pure sports car, the other is a grocery getter with performance.

[@williambellisIII]

Have you driven an FK8 or an FL5? They may not be “pure” sports cars, but they’re damn sporty.

[@BitcoinTo150K]

@@williambellisIII they $50-70k much much much better vehicles out there for $

[@thatpersiandude7386]

@@BitcoinTo150K right, s2k aint cheap either

[@williambellisIII]

@@BitcoinTo150K Not sure how that’s relevant to my question or comment.

[@BitcoinTo150K]

@@thatpersiandude7386 depends where you live and timing I can still find clean title ap1 10kish and ap2 15kish not terrible

[@Arsing116]

This guy needs to be working for a car magazine or something similar if he doesn’t already.

[@Zygrene]

This channel is just my hobby and passion. I never want it to feel like a "job"

[@derekb370z]

Wanting to pair an s2k with my fk8

[@icceman87k50]

How that S2000 stayed under 65k is a feat in itself. Cuz if I was the driver of that vehicle it’d be up in the 200k+ range 😂

[@brochill6025]

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[@fhowland]

Mine only has 55k lol

[@icceman87k50]

Don’t understand it but okay 🤣

[@scrutch666]

Yeah people who garage their s2000 mostly and treat it like a collector car are weird to me too. If weather allows im every morning out there

[@sdlausen1]

Honestly, I can't wait for the Intergea Type S. Not fond of the wing on the FL5.

[@carloc.455]

Loved your review, but it ain't no comparison, I mean even an 08 jdm fd2 type R smokes the s2 around the Tsukuba track given we never got that model in North America just thought these aren't really comparable IMHO.

[@8300rpmallday]

That title is wrong old vs new vtec what vtec does the new type r has????

[@williambellisIII]

It has VTEC on the exhaust side.

[@8300rpmallday]

@@williambellisIII wow there is a third lob on the exhaust cam wild garbage this is as bad as the k20a3 engine

[@williambellisIII]

@@8300rpmallday Yeah, like I said, it has VTEC on the exhaust side. It’s a turbo engine; Things have changed.

[@8300rpmallday]

@@williambellisIII ya things have change i don't like it still love my old vtec and 9k rpm

[@TheChannel1978]

No offense but comparing FWD to RWD doesn't really work that well as the platform is so different. My take away was the new Civic Type-R is super capable but the comparison added nothign to it other than the s2k is a more engaging drive, which I knew before. I would have preferred a comparison to another FWD car, perhaps a DC2 Integra Type-R, which was meant to be the best handling FWD car at some point.

[@1HeatWalk]

Cons of FWD is the acceleration, breaking, and turning overloads grip easier in the front. Pro is it saves weight not having a rod to drive a differential in the rear.

[@pcarobsessed9778]

Type r is going over 60k with mark up. You pay 60k for a civic. Gotta be fucking insane paying 60k for a civic

[@rnb83rnb]

I dont know before...S2000 its wild, hard to drive,have bad suspension build.CTR Always Kick In Yo.

[@brochill6025]

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[@483SGT]

I got the same Uniqlo fleece 🔥

[@adamjung6855]

fantasyyy by mariah carey on repeat

[@86drive86]

lol yeah I'm picturing him off camera hitting the touge with Mariah blasting