How Damage Barriers Actually Work In Dota 2

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@brixxconnor3411
@brixxconnor3411 9 ай бұрын
By far the best educational DOTA 2 channel of today, especially on elaborating game mechanics.
@Gabrielbarsch
@Gabrielbarsch 9 ай бұрын
crystal maiden's shard (crystal clone) gets a barrier if she has safety bubble equipped for some reason
@Ортур-я3е
@Ортур-я3е 9 ай бұрын
"some reason" why shouldn't it
@guargest3613
@guargest3613 9 ай бұрын
@@Ортур-я3е because it isn't an illusion and you need it to break from aoe damage to frostbite enemies, the bubble makes it a bit harder
@Ортур-я3е
@Ортур-я3е 9 ай бұрын
@@guargest3613 it probably is illusion in game files, but a little bit different from the others, so it has a logic
@Cairn_August
@Cairn_August 9 ай бұрын
@@Ортур-я3еthe spell itself has no logic an should be removed
@hYdrantoxide
@hYdrantoxide 9 ай бұрын
​​@@Cairn_August Mans never ulted on an enemy and pressed e
@jojokispotta
@jojokispotta 9 ай бұрын
Safety bubble on medusa is a tier 6 item. Reason: medusa can blink out even with 5 heroes attacking her. The mana shield absorbs most damage and passes on very little damage which gets absorbed by bubble. Thus, with 0 damage to HP, blink is never disabled.
@TeleClassy2
@TeleClassy2 9 ай бұрын
fun little tidbit if you're playing support with glimmer or solar, if you shield your carry right before they die for the wrong damage type it shows a good effort and helps you sleep better at night despite having to helplessly watch your carry die and listen to them flame you while they respawn
@thawzin7924
@thawzin7924 9 ай бұрын
This channel is a GEM
@jhefaranal
@jhefaranal 9 ай бұрын
i dont actually know how barrier works and what is the differences, and was about to search for it when I saw this video! lifesaver
@rlobbest
@rlobbest 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for making these videos. The community needs you.
@subsubcc
@subsubcc 8 ай бұрын
Wooooow! What a brainstorm... That was really informative. Waiting for your next guide about Dota mechanics!!!
@YugenDota
@YugenDota 9 ай бұрын
Finally, a comprehensive breakdown on damage barriers in Dota 2! This video brilliantly demystifies these often overlooked mechanics, shedding light on their intricacies, stacking nuances, and interactions with illusions.
@Zipfile6
@Zipfile6 9 ай бұрын
Pudge's Flesh Heap active does not stop damage done by Rot if you have a Magic Barrier from Pipe or Glimmer on you.
@SpicyDrone
@SpicyDrone 9 ай бұрын
obviously not cuz flesh heap doesn’t actually block all dmg done by rot
@Zipfile6
@Zipfile6 9 ай бұрын
​@@SpicyDrone I may have written my comment a bit too poorly so I'll elaborate differently. Flesh Heap damage block active will not prevent any damage done to magical/universal barriers applied on Pudge from Rot. Only barrier that is the exception to this is the Safety Bubble, which will not take damage from self-damaging Rot. To test this yourself: 1) Demo mode Pudge 2) Get LVL 3, put one point in Rot and two in FH. 3) Buy Glimmer Cape 4) Toggle Rot, use FH active and use Glimmer Cape. This is probably the most concise way of seeing that FH damage block active will damage shields, even though Pudge should be taking no damage from Rot at all.
@TheLapari
@TheLapari 8 ай бұрын
​@@SpicyDroneit does with enough levels and enough magic resist...
@SpicyDrone
@SpicyDrone 8 ай бұрын
@@Zipfile6 ohhh i see what you mean that must be a bug then
@snowhawk4049
@snowhawk4049 9 ай бұрын
if you have a shield rune and safety bubble first the safety bubble barrier gets used and then your total barrier gets healed again by 100hp. So basically, as long as you don't take more than 100hp damage you keep your shield rune. I find it useful for farming neutrals, because it makes sure that you can keep the shield rune for teamfights.
@yandrosyoutube
@yandrosyoutube 9 ай бұрын
You missed something rather huge: barriers are not affected by damage modifications (other than armor and magic resist). Which is especially meaningful wrt the dmg amp of illusions: the barrier is as resistive as with the main hero!! So Pipe and Block cheese are insane on illusion heroes such as naga
@SheepyPanda95
@SheepyPanda95 9 ай бұрын
So the 300-400% extra damage that illusions take doesn't work when they have a barrier and the damage they take when they have the barrier is the same as if they are the original hero, am I right?
@yandrosyoutube
@yandrosyoutube 9 ай бұрын
Yep!
@SheepyPanda95
@SheepyPanda95 9 ай бұрын
@@yandrosyoutube ahh. I see. That's good information then. Although I haven't played the game for 5yrs tho lol.
@KowalskiAnalyasis
@KowalskiAnalyasis 8 ай бұрын
For next video. Abaddon’s borrowed time doesn’t negate negative damage. Meaning Razor damage drained unit will deal damage to abaddon during borrowed time. Niche dota fact
@chellini3744
@chellini3744 9 ай бұрын
Void spirit's skill is a barrier agains physical ATTACKS. Thats why physical damage can still get through when its not in ATTACK form
@auroth6805
@auroth6805 8 ай бұрын
Valve need to hire this guy
@oscargonzalez3599
@oscargonzalez3599 8 ай бұрын
Dude these videos are so good, very informative, thanks!!!!
@OliverNybroe
@OliverNybroe 9 ай бұрын
Does damage on an illusion with a barrier take increased illusion damage?
@yandrosyoutube
@yandrosyoutube 9 ай бұрын
They do not!
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 9 ай бұрын
Which shield is used up first? Let's say Abaddon has a bubble, and casts aphotic Shield. Will the shield be used first, or the bubble? When will the shield explode? This must be investigated!!
@pcxxy
@pcxxy 9 ай бұрын
excellent, what about medusa's shield? i feel like i've never manage to understand it well enough despite having played her a ton lol
@LonelyDayDreaming
@LonelyDayDreaming 9 ай бұрын
3:37 poor venga
@mertgultegin8187
@mertgultegin8187 9 ай бұрын
How does Raindrop works with barriers or Flame Guard?
@PaszerDye
@PaszerDye 9 ай бұрын
lol i went out of my way to build a block of cheese immediately when it debuted in its patch. Great item, but too finicky to build in practicality. Since there are 2 fountains each spawning a lotus every 3 mins, the earliest you can get the 18 lotuses needed for all 3 Greater Healing Lotuses is at the 27min mark. What makes it even more complicated is that Roshan respawns in 8-11 and he only drops cheese on 2nd kill at the Dire pit. So you need a hero pick like Ursa who rushes Roshan early on, and kill him first at least at the 15-19min mark. At the very least that coincides with the 3rd night of the game's time cycle, which goes from 25min to 30min. Getting cheese is a long term effort that likely needs team cooperation too, but it only affects one hero & is hard to plan for in pubs. It's weird to build in the same way we used to get the Fallen Sky or Trident T5 item recipe, but we don't have blink or S&Y or the others items in our build.
@sakata3819
@sakata3819 8 ай бұрын
Damage barrier mechanics is like one of the best addition in the modern dota
@5vart5ol
@5vart5ol 8 ай бұрын
I got a cool kill on Rikki without detection. Just spectre and Radiance that made me see where he was. Please go through the different detections that arent wards nor gem nor dust. The so called, not true invis detection. Atmosphere detection. Not sure what to call it.
@Razomka
@Razomka 9 ай бұрын
Time to do a video on damage block. It's pretty wacky. Great video as per
@kavin1814
@kavin1814 9 ай бұрын
Adrian’s University of Dota 2.
@cesarponce9536
@cesarponce9536 9 ай бұрын
Pure Damage Barrier doesn't block heartbreak (is considered hp removal)
@BeaverOfDooom
@BeaverOfDooom 9 ай бұрын
My guy is always giving us gold!
@6Unknown_Source9
@6Unknown_Source9 9 ай бұрын
More or Less these barriers are "extra health" that don't regen and absorbs specific damage types. But I also didn't noticed about the Universal Barrier bug, I think those inconsistent things are weird and needs to be patched,
@Joel2Million
@Joel2Million 9 ай бұрын
what about hp removal like from axe's ult? I think there are a few other weird sources that might act weird. also worth checking if void spirits barrier works on physical damage from antimage mana break because it's from an attack, and fury swipes. I've heard fury swipes is reduced by mageslayer and may be treated as a spell source like crush. and what about magical damage from mind breaker? does void spirits barrier block that despite the type being wrong because it's from an attack?
@bxrxxy
@bxrxxy 7 ай бұрын
cull is not hp removal, it's instant kill. (same as aa's ult) maybe it's look similiar to hp removal since it almost ignore all damage manipulation, but it isnt, because its killing, not damaging, the closer example is like the expiring summon/illu, or re-summon. when the target's hp over the threshold cull's damage is pure, when below it switch to instant kill.
@nandaprian
@nandaprian 9 ай бұрын
The amount of if statements in dota codebase
@shmeepo2428
@shmeepo2428 9 ай бұрын
ODs aghanims barrier doesnt stop blink dagger disabling from damage
@TheNeon-rh4kk
@TheNeon-rh4kk 9 ай бұрын
Can Safety Bubble's barrier be stacked by having more armor like physical barriers? If so then shit that might be a great item for Phantom Lancer in late game. :0
@kevinsaputra11
@kevinsaputra11 8 ай бұрын
Which barrier activates first, mana shield or block of cheese? I once get a block of cheese and give it to the medusa while being unsure which barriers will be used first.. block of cheese barrier first would be imba since it regenerates itself
@Raison_Acey
@Raison_Acey 9 ай бұрын
Damn I learned so much! Worth the like and sub!
@accountname2521
@accountname2521 9 ай бұрын
dedicate an entire video on how to deal with slark spammers in pubs (do a breakdown on how he works and how to make him funkc oof on the low.)
@NithinDanielJacob
@NithinDanielJacob 9 ай бұрын
What about stacking a static shield with a shield that keeps recharging.. timbersaw or block of cheese?
@yuzycute
@yuzycute 8 ай бұрын
make how Roshan's Banner actual works... coz my team keeps placing it outside the rosh pit immediately... thanks
@samuelelliott8453
@samuelelliott8453 8 ай бұрын
Dont magic barriers from multiple pipes stack? Or did they change that? When they first reworked pipe, it said that magic barriers from pipe can be stacked now
@turquoisephoenix9931
@turquoisephoenix9931 9 ай бұрын
I remember arguing with someone about this. Saying putting glimmer on carry is useless and he doesnt need the invi when im tryna save him from bejng nuked by magic burst over and over again
@yoni532s9M5w
@yoni532s9M5w 8 ай бұрын
So a barrier is just added health, when attacked by the type the barrier blocks
@TheKicerK
@TheKicerK 9 ай бұрын
damn, I love how complicated dota is
@leesasuki
@leesasuki 9 ай бұрын
this is less of complicated but inconsistency. Necro passive used to go through everything, unless damage reduction (still deal damage but reduced by it), and barrier always stack on "first in last out" basis. Now it seems like dota is programmed by bunch of interns and got so so weird
@Steffoontour
@Steffoontour 8 ай бұрын
Please cover armlet toggling or boot toggling some time
@Papiness
@Papiness 10 күн бұрын
The idea that armor reducs still apply to barrier makes me doubt it why not just use mek?
9 ай бұрын
Before they visualizated barriers, was it same? For example before, Glimmer Cape's blocking damage works like it works now?
@zaihanm
@zaihanm 9 ай бұрын
ya same, but no gauge. just some aura near unit.
@guargest3613
@guargest3613 9 ай бұрын
yes but glimmer didn't gave barrier, it granted % magic resistance, it wasn't great for blink daggers but was great for tanking an entire skywrath ult all by yourself, because it also gives the wearer extra passive magic resistance
@TheMihirBhagwat
@TheMihirBhagwat 9 ай бұрын
If I have all 3 barriers on my hero and I get hit with a pure damage instance (e.g. Laguna pure), which barrier gets depleted first?
@yehorveremii
@yehorveremii 9 ай бұрын
laguna deals magical damage, you will lose magical barrier then universal. If damage is pure, only universal.
@dldswewad8018
@dldswewad8018 8 ай бұрын
thanks adrian
@BlueFlash215
@BlueFlash215 7 ай бұрын
You got me. I subscribed
@holydukk
@holydukk 9 ай бұрын
bro said ding ding ding
@holohulolo
@holohulolo 9 ай бұрын
I thought other than universal varrier ally he other will take their dmg before reductions Kind of like medusa mana shoeld that kind of makes all damage pure.
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota
@EarthSpirit.easyzdota 9 ай бұрын
This dude is like icefrogs son or something
@espadadota
@espadadota 9 ай бұрын
Good stuff
@bryandelahoz6063
@bryandelahoz6063 8 ай бұрын
No one builds block of cheese because it's fucking hard to build, man!
@akumpawatjr
@akumpawatjr 9 ай бұрын
You should have been a NASA scientist!
@oxxybeastgaming5936
@oxxybeastgaming5936 5 ай бұрын
What about crimson guard
@SanayParmar
@SanayParmar 8 ай бұрын
PLease go over lifesteal
@NinjapowerMS
@NinjapowerMS 9 ай бұрын
So you're telling me I could even make busted tanks?
@franziea
@franziea 8 ай бұрын
how to make block of cheese?
@qunas101
@qunas101 6 ай бұрын
Bubble is BAD on illusion heroes. If your bubble takes damage before you summon illusions, the illusions will have a full shield, while you have a damaged one, revealing you instantly
@Tom-ou6md
@Tom-ou6md 9 ай бұрын
where can i complain about not having the 500hp shield xD
@alparslanklc434
@alparslanklc434 9 ай бұрын
10/10
@axelsparr8198
@axelsparr8198 6 ай бұрын
Block of cheese actually doesn't work on illusions anymore
@Revanx23
@Revanx23 9 ай бұрын
Shield rune + Pudge Rot
@fo-ef8qo
@fo-ef8qo 8 ай бұрын
the algorithm knows im a abba spamma
@Trustonlinebetting
@Trustonlinebetting 8 ай бұрын
Bro tinker
@raulmontero8736
@raulmontero8736 9 ай бұрын
Very nice mechanics than Valve get into the game
@atanyhdra
@atanyhdra 9 ай бұрын
Pin this please.
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