I love that flaring tool. We didn’t have that in my time. 👍👍
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@czechmate6916 nor mine. I used an old school flaring block forever. Navac had a sale on these last year and I didn't want to let it go. Glad I bought it as it's fantastic and makes perfect flares
@czechmate6916Күн бұрын
@@jasonjohnsonHVAC If I was still in the game I definitely would get one. That is sweet. 💪💪
@EverythingHVACRКүн бұрын
Hell yeah! Happy 4th, brother
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@@EverythingHVACR same to you bro.
@Eddy63Күн бұрын
Nice little trick with a few tech tips thrown in for good measure ... Happy 4th J J ... Thx
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@@Eddy63 happy 4th buddy
@subcoolHVACКүн бұрын
Happy 4th Jason!! 🇺🇸💪🧨
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@subcoolHVAC Same to you and yours. Enjoy it safely. Back to work tomorrow for me...so it'll be a quiet day
@FroggieBelugaКүн бұрын
In-field workbench.. anywhere anytime 😁
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
Anywhere and everywhere is a work bench. Happy 4th
@czechmate6916Күн бұрын
I recently came across your channel in my feed and subscribed. I’m also in Tx. Retired a few years ago after being in this line of work for forty seven years. I used to make the same moans & groans when I would have find something to grab on to so I could get vertical again. 😆😂🤣 Have a safe July 4. 💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏✝️
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@@czechmate6916 getting older...getting wiser....body to broke down to use the knowledge...hahahaha
@czechmate6916Күн бұрын
@@jasonjohnsonHVAC Yes sir. You know I miss doing what I did but I went back it would be like starting from the beginning. I think I’ve probably forgotten a lot of what I knew. Not to mention I really haven’t kept up with most of the new changes. At least I’ve got a few HVACR channels I can watch. Stay safe out there in this heat brother.
@EverythingHVACRКүн бұрын
Nice job, Jason!
@Eddy63Күн бұрын
Nice job J J ... Thx
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@@Eddy63 🫡
@dumptrksКүн бұрын
BIG Balls Energy is showing off😂
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@@dumptrks 😆😆😆
@darrend1068Күн бұрын
What state are you in?
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@@darrend1068 TX.
@subcoolHVACКүн бұрын
Nice job Jason, she clean now 💦👍
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@@subcoolHVAC yes sir. It was a nice peaceful day. They don't happen often
@subcoolHVACКүн бұрын
Lol, Airwolf… that brings back memories 😎🚁
@jasonjohnsonHVACКүн бұрын
@subcoolHVAC I know huh....I was laughing too
@wata_laf5 күн бұрын
Great find man
@jasonjohnsonHVAC5 күн бұрын
@@wata_laf appreciate you
@HEFTYLEFTY3039 күн бұрын
Get a clear hose made bro
@jasonjohnsonHVAC9 күн бұрын
@HEFTYLEFTY303 totally agree. I know trane sells one. Don't have the part # to order it. The counter guys....are shall we say...less than helpful. Thanks for the comment
@bbasham469 күн бұрын
Thanks, great video
@jasonjohnsonHVAC9 күн бұрын
@bbasham46 my pleasure. Hopefully it helped a little
@joshuaricks773011 күн бұрын
Great video brother.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC11 күн бұрын
🫡🤜🤛
@subcoolHVAC13 күн бұрын
😎Nice job there, have the condenser coils ever been replaced on those RTAA’s ?
@jasonjohnsonHVAC13 күн бұрын
I don't know, they look old...but I really have no clue....I did find out it's been 8 years since they have had an HVAC company do real maintenance on them.
@subcoolHVAC13 күн бұрын
@@jasonjohnsonHVAC I don’t think we have any RTAA survivors left here, keep em going Jason 👍
@danf258813 күн бұрын
You could have put the circuit in Service Pumpdown mode instead of recovering all that gas. After it shuts off pump what’s left in the low side to the high side.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC13 күн бұрын
I tried that on the controls and it didn't want to work. So I went to plan B.
@spaceboy719214 күн бұрын
Could you show us how you would "MAG" the condenser...Thanks in advance
@Eighty8Fitter14 күн бұрын
lol I have to do the suction and the discharge saturated sensors on an RTAA soon too. Too bad I have to recover the entire charge 🤦♂️
@jasonjohnsonHVAC14 күн бұрын
Yup, when its that deep....sure do. Gives you a chance to check the total charge, though. Make sure to check your oil level as well...thats important for proper health and operation of the compressor. Check and test the oil DP switch, master oil solenoid....you might as well. Don't want to be called " it was running before you worked on it"
@FrenchBeefCDN13 күн бұрын
Just replace all refrigerant - live sensors at the same time if the machine is older. Just sell a one and done update on all the sensors. Especially if you are pulling the charge. Good time to replace relief valves too!
@aedanwhyte613414 күн бұрын
Where did you manage to buy the sub cooler?!
@jasonjohnsonHVAC14 күн бұрын
Ebay. $70...fairly inexpensive and its rated for 650 psi so it'll handle 410a
@hvac_audaz_firme14 күн бұрын
Great Video Jason. I see you in alot of hvac video chats great to see you uploading your own. Thank you for showing us the recovery process in a refrigeration system. Keep em videos coming😅
@jasonjohnsonHVAC14 күн бұрын
🫡🫡🫡. Appreciate the comment.
@BBLombardi16 күн бұрын
You runnin both suction and liquid lines with gauges into a T then through your recovery machine and through the subcooler to the tanks?
@jasonjohnsonHVAC16 күн бұрын
I was doing a vapor pull. I used the push pull and didn't record pulling the liquid out.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC16 күн бұрын
I was using just the Appion speedy wye. No gauges.
@sterlingarcher4617 күн бұрын
So why wouldn't they put a min and max level sight glass on the separator instead of having to do all that messing around with the hose and all that ? I don't get it .
@jasonjohnsonHVAC17 күн бұрын
Great question...I agree 1000%. Seeks like Trane misses the boat on that with a lot of equipment....other than their low pressure centrifugals...which has an oil pump. Thanks for watching.
@EverythingHVACR17 күн бұрын
Good stuff, thanks, Jason!
@jasonjohnsonHVAC17 күн бұрын
Appreciate you brother
@subcoolHVAC17 күн бұрын
Yep, there’s something going on there… oil should look like Pee not Tea 🤣. Thanks for the video!
@jasonjohnsonHVAC17 күн бұрын
😆😆😆. I like that analogy
@Eighty8Fitter17 күн бұрын
I’m not sure if your video mentioned this but you need the check the oil level in the off cycle of each circuit. According to Trane if the analysis comes back ok and your pressure differential across your filter is ok then they suggest you leave the oil alone. I guess you’ll have to see what the lab says about your darker sample. Great video! 👍
@jasonjohnsonHVAC17 күн бұрын
I didn't mention that it has to be off. It was, but good point by you. It also has to sit for at least 10 minutes after being off before you take the sample too. Thanks for including that information I forgot to mention. Sometimes it's easy to forget to mention all the small details that are also important.
@mechanicalenvironments17 күн бұрын
Great video! Never seen that handy trick with the sight glass for oil level. Definitely curious how the test results come back for the dark one.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC17 күн бұрын
I'm curious as to the results myself. Looks like it was cooking a bit
@Eddy6317 күн бұрын
Interesting content Dbl- J as usual ... Thx
@jasonjohnsonHVAC17 күн бұрын
🤘🤘🤘🤘...thanks brudda
@KeithSnyder-qc7in18 күн бұрын
Only 2 ?? Carriers coils blow!
@jasonjohnsonHVAC17 күн бұрын
Lol....that they do. The customer is concerned about the other ones and might be buying some spare coils to have on site. There are 2 of those RTU'S on the roof, each has 4 coils
@NestorDelgado-fr6pu18 күн бұрын
What was your clue,how did you figure out that conector/sensor was bad
@jasonjohnsonHVAC18 күн бұрын
Because I was getting so many errors, especially for weird stuff. The whole thing works on a comm bus. Every module is daisy chained together. The fact all the modules were showing alarms, gave me an indication that it was something on the comm bus.
@CubbyTech21 күн бұрын
You may want to share with us the *why* you're using a subcooler
@daniellundquest825220 күн бұрын
It looks like he has his recovery cylinders out and is trying to recover liquid faster with the sub cooler
@jasonjohnsonHVAC19 күн бұрын
@daniellundquest8252 that's exactly it. Faster recovery.....faster to get the repairs completed
@dimaslespier268823 күн бұрын
Lol you mean lack of chemical treatment 😂
@dimaslespier268823 күн бұрын
Where is the board input to drive that motor? Is it air pressure switch or an analog signal to tell the board to modulate in either direction based on? Static pressure or the amount of vav that are closed? Are those older vav’s just open/close or maintain a specific min/max air set point if so? Based on what? From what I remember about those penn control thermostat they were just open/closed and bypass through the box into the plenum increasing the static to the minimum pressure to keep the unit from freezing up and the discharge air in the plenum with throttle the compressor down on temp? And the air switch would drive the vanes to a minimum and the only time those vanes were completely closed is on unit shut down completely. Again I haven’t worked on an inlet guide vane unit since 1990 so forgive me if I’m off
@dimaslespier268823 күн бұрын
Are those bypass boxes or in series?
@dimaslespier268823 күн бұрын
Typically we recommend vfd with an air pressure transducer about 2/3 down the duct or before the first supply air register 😊
@jasonjohnsonHVAC23 күн бұрын
That is what was recommended....unfortunately the salesman is still dragging his feet on sending the quote....doesn't matter though...I don't work for that company any longer.
@fathmasameer752324 күн бұрын
Take inlet and outlet from any running cooler
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
Yup, that's my plan as well. Use chilled water if possible, condenser and or city water is a secondary method, either way is better than nothing at all
@fathmasameer752324 күн бұрын
Sorry for my poor English, i can give you the better solution regarding subcooler, you can use chilled water from running chiller, no wastage of water, use it like a fcu unit, it's work great
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
Yes, that is my plan, when available to use
@subcoolHVAC24 күн бұрын
Nice to see some RTAA still in service, Subcooler did it’s duty 🫡👍
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
I like RTAA's....built during a time when we didn't need to over complicate things. Simple machine that does it's job. Subcooler worked flawlessly.
@subcoolHVAC24 күн бұрын
@@jasonjohnsonHVAC totally agree
@memarhar24 күн бұрын
Good deal. Glad it worked! Nice touch with the thermal images at the end.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
🤜🤛 it worked as hoped for.
@ZRock777124 күн бұрын
Thats a really good setup you made there. I see those brazed plate heat exchangers for sale at united all the time, hop you don't mind if I borrow your idea?
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
I absolutely don't mind. I put it out there to share with others. Let's all rise to the top
@FroggieBeluga24 күн бұрын
You mentioned on build video to have gauge for pressure drop.. how about ewt and lwt?
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
I didn't check the water temps, I would feel it every once in awhile. The leaving felt about 15° warmer, but that's just a guess
@FroggieBeluga24 күн бұрын
@@jasonjohnsonHVAC that's good drop!
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
@FroggieBeluga it worked great. It was 97° outside today and it didn't struggle at all. With the sun shining on the recovery tank
@FrenchBeefCDN24 күн бұрын
It’s essential kit for chiller recovery outdoors, especially on 410 scroll chillers in the summer. I don’t bother when doing repairs in the snow as it’s cold out already. Cheers bro. Sorry for spamming your comments, got bored after work. Haha😂
@Leo-lt1iz23 күн бұрын
@@FrenchBeefCDNbro you know any helpful videos to learn these types of units , I’m in school for HVAC just trying to still get more better understanding as well
@simonharvey387224 күн бұрын
Teamwork makes the dream work!! 🤘
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
Completely agree.
@surecom1225 күн бұрын
Shouldn't the valve be before the heat exchanger? Not after... thinking of pressure rating and the rate of heat exchange
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
Valve always goes on the leaving water side. That way the HX, coil or pump never has a chance to run dry. That is also where you control flow.
@memarhar25 күн бұрын
Nice and compact. I like that you left it versatile with its function.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC25 күн бұрын
Appreciate the comment. I wanted to make sure it was not just a one trick pony. It's fairly cheap to build and it's kicking but. My refrigerant going into the bottle today is 92° and it's going into the subcooler at 117° sat temp.
@FrenchBeefCDN25 күн бұрын
Nice and clean. I made mine out of a coaxial coil. Works very well have used it several times. Passed a 750psi pressure test when I made it lol
@jasonjohnsonHVAC25 күн бұрын
I would love to get my hands on a decommissioned WSHP to do exactly what you said. I usually don't have the chance to replace any, so until then....this will do. Thanks for the comment
@FrenchBeefCDN24 күн бұрын
We had a bunch of warranty coaxial coils from heat pumps that were just sitting on a shelf for years… but you can buy a brand new one for about $150 at the supplier. Yours will work beautifully all the same, it doesn’t take much flow to cool the refrigerant down. Like a large coffee cup a minute is plenty of flow, any more is a waste of water. Sometimes when you have access to chilled water that is the best and no water gets wasted. You can recover about 1lb vapour every 60-90seconds (134a) using a standard 1hp air cooled recovery machine which takes about 120-180 sec without sub cooler.
@WhowereEpsteinsclients25 күн бұрын
The amount of work I do, I just buy the one at the supplier. The money we make just buy one lol. Yours is so cheaply made its going to be more of a headache than anything else. A coil of 3/8 copper and a 5 gallon bucket is better than this.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC25 күн бұрын
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it
@FrenchBeefCDN24 күн бұрын
Wrong though. A contained heat exchanger is much more compact and efficient than a coil of copper in a bucket, unless you are flowing the water into the bucket constantly. The one at the supplier (cps) is only 1/4” tubing and requires a bucket of water which will warm up. Having a coaxial or brazed plate heat exchanger allows you to slowly feed cold tap water through the coil keeping your recovery discharge closer to 60f vs 90f bucket method. Much easier to run hoses from source to drain than drag a 5 gallon bucket let of water. I’ve done both methods, my back much prefers to carry empty hoses and a sub cooler than a full bucket of water. Plus you can make your own for cheap and just need to braze a few adapters. My coaxial coil cost less than $150 and took me an hour to make. Have used to recover thousands of lbs R134a, R410a on air cooled and water cooled chillers where a water cooled recovery machine was not available and frankly no longer necessary with my sub cooler. Tank stays below 70f even in the July heat.
@WhowereEpsteinsclients24 күн бұрын
@@FrenchBeefCDN If it worked so well everyone would have one already.
@FrenchBeefCDN24 күн бұрын
That’s some logic there. It keeps heat pressure down, which keeps flow rate up, doesn’t cycle hpco, doesn’t pop relief valves, stays cool the entire time and you don’t need to drag a 65lb bucket of water around. Cuts vapour recovery down in half which saves you the technician time standing around waiting on recovery. It is a good idea and the guys I work with started making their own after seeing mine in action. Large commercial recovery machines (York RP-2200) use a coaxial coil condenser and recover a pound of vapour pump in seconds, I just tried to mimic that in a smaller lightweight package that I could keep in my van on machines under 2000lb charge. It works, really well.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC24 күн бұрын
@@FrenchBeefCDN 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤜🤛
@MariosACandRefrigeration25 күн бұрын
nice subcooler.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@matt462025 күн бұрын
Until you mentioned the cps transformator , I was wondering what this was. Maybe a beer cooler?
@jasonjohnsonHVAC25 күн бұрын
😆. Yeah made a nice subcooler for less than that CPS one. Real good heat transfer as well. The ancillary parts I had laying around. Only had to buy the hose. It works good and is decently service friendly. I like it. Thanks for the comment