1st is the worst, 9th is the best!

I definitely grew to love it more after digging into it more than I normally would. I would love a follow-up to this formula

No other way around.

This has been the redemption arc you were born for!

Lol!! Someone's gotta do it!

Lol wtf!! That's kinda hype!

Bwin is a Beoing whistle-blower so she's currently in hiding.

KWIN (don't tell them it's me)

Oh boy!!! I hope it doesn't suck

@@Zerbraxi 10/10

...why didn't I know that before making this video? That's sooo cool! Thanks for sharing that.

@@Zerbraxi Only some of the levels work at all, and the more players you have the more likely it will break, but the fact that any of them work at all is pretty nuts. IIRC the final boss actually does work

@@Tailstraw_xD I'll still have to try that just for fun. That's so odd but so cool

Thank you. 😊

I think he's just still mad he didn't get invited to the prom.

I really wish we'd just get a sequel to this formula in particular. It had its flaws for sure, but I do think Assault had an incredible foundation built for itself

This is so heartwarming. Life can be brutal, so I keep trying to goof off and have a good time 😀

If your goal is the destination, it's annoying. If your goal is the journey, it's satisfying. I always try to view it as an adventure

I've not heard of Mega Man X corrupted but I LOVE that game so I'm down to look into it. Thanks for mentioning it

Tied for 2nd? You know i have to ask what your favorite is then right?

@@Zerbraxi twilight princess

I do think all of those are insanely important. However, what about 1 of them had a massive game design impact that shaped the progress of the medium? Not just were big hits and important classics, but how did they shape the development and innovation of the industry? For example, in film King Kong isn't just a classic, but it shaped the future of film creation as a whole. Dracula is a massive classic, but arguably Frankenstein shaped the industry more. Arguably even more than that was Metropolis which is way less known, but had a larger yet more silent impact. I do think Doom is close, though I would argue that both Quake and Wolfebstein 3D are more important to the medium as a whole despite Doom being way more successful of an IP.

@@Zerbraxiall of the games I mentioned were innovators that pioneered genres and broke boundaries. Super Metroid is a slightly derivative update of the original Metroid. It was also the worst selling game in the series at that point

​@@theycallmejpj ​ @theycallmejpj Sales is a pretty irrelevant component to innovation. Some of the most ground breaking technologies and creative ideas are poor sellers. There exists an entire genre, Metroidvania's that point back specifically to Super. Even the second part of that's genre's name that came with Symphony of the Night, was directly inspired by the design of Super Metroid and The Legend of Zelda. I just can't, in good critical faith, pretend that an piece of art that encouraged an entire genre not be considered one of the most important of that medium. It is interesting that you make the observation that Super Metroid is just a derivation of the first in it's series, but use Outrun as an example when, while I absolutely adore that game and it helped inspire Power Drift which I also love, the Sega Arcade racer Hang-On came out before it and is almost an identical experience. The only real shift is motorcylces to cars really. The primary difference between the 2 in terms of success was marketing promotion. Maybe now I'm just getting too nerdy, but Space Invaders is insanely important as well, specifically in it's timing and manufacturing into the arcades which boomed its success. However, from a design perspective, is similar to that of Space Wars, a game released before it, which also inspired Asteroids as well. I love Space Invaders and agree it's one of the most important out there, but, just to be accurate, it wasn't the pioneer but simply an iteration on something that already existed but released at a better time with a more attractive pixel based graphics scheme rather than vector. Doom is also just an iteration on Wolfenstein, it's big brother. However, there are far more reasons Doom is such an important piece of the art form, but game design innovation isn't it, more technical, but that could be its own discussion. I guess we're just gonna have to disagree one this. I'm just not able to follow a through-line from your examples to your conclusion about Super. I'm actually finding the opposite, that the examples have more in common with Super Metroid than you might think.

@@Zerbraxiwell you’re changing the goal posts now. We’ve somehow gone from “most important” to innovation. Space Invaders was massively important, as were the other games I mentioned, milestones in the progression of video games. Super Metroid is a fleshed out update of a game from the mid 80’s. Metroidvania is a dumb word used by people who are too young to have played the history of these in their own context. You’re welcome to your opinions but the numbers of games that were spawned off the back of the games I mentioned is in the thousands. And if you don’t understand that sales figures are a metric of importance then I don’t know what to say to you 🤷‍♂️

@theycallmejpj no I'm not. I only referred to innovation because you explicitly called out "innovators that pioneered genres and broke boundaries. " Responding to your specific claims is not moving goal posts, it's discussion.

I think The Lost Age dives deeper into an interesting conundrum about choice and faith. That part, with the clear correlation of Alchemy to real world technology is something a little fun to discuss

Do you really think so? I'm not sure I can fully agree. From playing the games back to back to back, including the second game, 64 was the third arwing game in my playthroughs. I don't think this would really apply to other genres either. I do think overall I get your sentiment though. The obvious innovation is to explore outside of the Arwing with on foot or the walker for example. However, I still think there could be cool stuff to explore within that rail shooter framework. We've seen some neat ideas from the likes of Panzer Dragoon or Sin & Punishment for example. While they aren't "arwing" they do follow the same design fundamentals as Star Fox and have done some cool stuff. Or I'm just being too optimistic lol

@Zerbraxi there is definitely more to explore with the on rails games. But nintendo unfortunately won't and keeps handing it to different companies, which loses the progress made. A starfox game I would like to see combines the elements of assault with 64.

I don't mind the cartridges honestly. They're definitely boring in terms of style thought.

I could've, and do show footage I captured from it. However, with games that have multiple versions I often try to highlight either the best way to play it, or what is most accessible. Since both are fundamentally the same in terms of content, I went for the remastered since that's the easiest way to play it today separate from emulation.

I tried to be a bit cringe at the start with the hitting on Jeanette thing specifically because the movie eventually does the exact thing. It's so odd, but I'm also pretty sure it just made me come off even weirder than I already am lol

I didn't know how to change classes as a kid, but I know how to do them now as an adult. But, for most complex rpg mechanics ever....look I've grown more and more in love with the series, especially after doing this series. The Lost Age especially has gone from a game I skipped years ago, to one of my favorite JRPGs ever. But....most complex rpg mechanics known to man...no way. Dark Dawn is an interesting iteration on the Golden Sun series but all of the innovation happened in the first game. It was complex for handheld rpgs of its time, but other, more complex games already existed then. I'm confused though because something being more iterative rather than innovative isn't necessarily a negative so I'm surprised people take it as such.

@@Zerbraxi i was reefing to the og series. Not dark dawn. And I was just correcting you because you said it didn't stray too far from the norm. Meanwhile the og two games have so many mechanics running on the background that are insane. Just a lot of people do not use them or even know they exist so it looks pretty basic to them, when it is far far from normal rpg fanfare

@ubm91 the originals innovation though mostly stems from simplifying pre-existing ideas that existed in the genre for decades. That is without a doubt it's greatest strength and there's a twisted view that simplicity is bad and thus people often fight to defend it, claiming insane complexity, when the contrary is the primary reason for its success.

Ya know, I think you're actually right about that nod in the beginning. I really should've pieced those elements together and I feel like I did implicitly, but really should've called it out. Though, to me, that's the best part about environmental storytelling is that interpretation can play such a large role and it makes all of our experiences that much more unique.

A rofl even

Very good point Voe. Sarqso.

@@Zerbraxi Gerudo Naáe

Can you do the password system on NSO?

Oh really? Any particular part that's standing out?

A story I hope to tackle this year, but I'm honestly pushing it off a little lol

@@Zerbraxi This story is guaranteed to be up to no good, so maybe it's for the best...

I feel ya. I'm very much in a similar boat. There are options such as GoG that sell their games DRM free which is what I often do a lot. There are also some developers, though incredibly rare, that still sell the full game on disc for PC such as Larian did recently with Baldur's Gate 3. It comes with a standalone key as well as a steam key. In general though, sometimes I just gotta buy the game on the storefront, and then download a ripped copy for later. This way I support the developer, and get to own what I purchased. Its not a perfect solution, but I'm not waiting for the publishers to fix the problem anymore.

Lol! No way. I'm nowhere near as handsome, my hair isn't as lush, and my audio isn't as clear. :)

@@Zerbraxi disagree my goat

Yeah...I think with 64 nobody really cared because so much was added and expanded that it truly does feel like it's own experience rather than a copy of the SNES narrative. Considering now though that we have FOUR titles telling basically the same story, SNES -> 64 -> 643D -> Zero...yeah, I totally agree that at least Adventures, Assault, & Command were adding to the plot. Well...except nothing in Command is canon which kinda sucks :(