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@flyinphil42 Күн бұрын
Which way turning the screw is rich ? I was told by a motorcycle mechanic that 2.5 turns out from the needle fully in , then adjust from there. I’m not sure which way to turn the screw from the 2.5 turns. The mechanic said my Navi A/F screw setting was only 1.5 turns out from the factory, so I’m guessing other Navi’s are also set too lean from the factory. The 2.5 turns out must be a richer mix then ? Do you think getting a bigger pilot jet would help?
@jeffreyhurst9552 2 күн бұрын
I put a 14T sprocket on my 2020 Monkey and didn’t really notice a difference.
@dylanflewelling5322 2 күн бұрын
what size socket did you use to take the caps off the forks?? Much appreciated!
@jeffamador9642 10 күн бұрын
Nah hard pass
@SpencerDesmarais 10 күн бұрын
Out of curiosity, what are you hard passing on? Luggage in general? The specific Honda bags? Real vague comment haha
@jeffamador9642 10 күн бұрын
@@SpencerDesmarais the bags , In my opinion it takes away from the look of the grom
@SpencerDesmarais 10 күн бұрын
@@jeffamador9642 fair enough, thanks for the explanation!
@coltonrice3976 12 күн бұрын
Hot Mulligan in the background at 10:35 was sweet! Gorgeous bike man I’m looking at one in similar condition this week!
@The1stPistolSniper 12 күн бұрын
Great to see you finally got the video up! I'm the one that followed your Molle panel idea but used solid aluminum panels off eBay. Yikes at that 2.2lb weight limit though! That's basically like 1 flask of water (I carry a 40oz flask when I work on a food truck so that's already at the weight limit). I think Honda gives it that limit to avoid the sagging issue so it doesn't bend in to the tire, which you addressed by mentioning adding a crossbar. Price wise I think we're at about the same as the panels I got are $59.98 for a pair of panels and the Sedici bag (10L) I put on is $47.99 and the water bottle holder I got holds up to a 52oz water bottle and is like $11. I don't know if you saw but a company called Ganesha also released their own kit for an adventure style Grom (it was shown on a Grom showcase video on youtube). Any thoughts on the spoked rims that you can get?
@SpencerDesmarais 10 күн бұрын
Yeah that 1kg limit is a real buzzkill if you take Hondas word on it.. Cross bar should be pretty easy to put in place and make here in the next couple weeks. I have Ganesha's body kit bookmarked from a while ago ($1500 :O ) but hadn't seen their spoked wheel sets. $582 for a set without tires is actually less than I expected them to be. 99% won't get them, but they're cool!
@codym5279 12 күн бұрын
We miss you Spencer
@SpencerDesmarais 12 күн бұрын
Ahahah appreciate the love, Cody. I'm sure y'all are doing just fine without me though 😂👍
@noxin75 12 күн бұрын
Great video as always! I recently got the T-Rex Givi setup and have them mounted with the H2C Rack. Really like that setup. They do have the cross bar so that probably increases their weight capacity a bit.
@SpencerDesmarais 12 күн бұрын
T-Rex makes some high quality stuff, solid choice!
@timsatchell6713 13 күн бұрын
Hi Spencer. The Honda bags look pretty neat and you seem to have accommodated the hi exhaust successfully without spoiling the looks. Underneath the bike there are some hidden bolt holes that ppl attach rear stunt frames. Perhaps some diagonals from here to the bottom of the frames would solve the weight/sag issues. I'm new to Grom ownership. Does the gear shaft support really improve the notchy gear change. These are brilliant old men's bikes. Loving it.
@SpencerDesmarais 13 күн бұрын
Good idea on the undermount points. I'll give them a look. So far they're supporting the weight better than I expected so I'm not sure if it'll even be necessary, but probably good insurance to do anyway. The shift shaft support combined with replacing the lever to a direct shifter instead of a linkage shifter definitely helped with the feel and notchiness. I will add though, it did NOT help with finding neutral and actually made it a bit worse, since it shortens the throw going into neutral and made it more finicky. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@timsatchell6713 10 күн бұрын
@@SpencerDesmarais hi Spencer, just an update. I have ordered a gear shaft support but in the meantime I have replaced the shifter linkage with a precision ball joint linkage. I now have a 90% improvement in shifting including finding neutral. I'm sure the partsa are available anywhere but I bought a linkage for an Enfield Hunter from ebay. I only used the end fittings and screwed them together with an inch of 6mm stud. Had to file one fitting so they screwed up tight in alignment. I am well pleased
@glockguy5682 13 күн бұрын
Hey man I’m a new grom owner and really enjoying going through all your videos. Learning lots. But I was wondering if you ever did a follow up video to how your bike performed after the tune with exhaust and intake? I’m looking to do the same to mine but wanted to see what your experience was. Also go cougs!
@SpencerDesmarais 13 күн бұрын
Hey, good question! I didn’t ever do a follow up. Mostly because i’m not sure the tune i got is the best for my situation. I’m at a little bit of elevation, 2,500ft, and I’m pretty sure the tuned ECU i got is running really rich in a lot of spots. ( I don’t think it’s the tuners fault by any means, don’t get me wrong). At least with it running rich I know my engine is in a safe spot compared to the risk of running lean with air box and exhaust mods. That being said, the tune still benefitted the bike! Much better low end acceleration, particularly at full throttle, and gained maybe a couple mph. I was a little disappointed at the top end gains but I’m chocking that up to elevation and the fact that i’m a heavier guy (230-240lbs). Go Cougs!
@adamrobinette6832 14 күн бұрын
I got the Navi, because, and I may get some stink eyes for saying it, but the Grom seems like it is trying to be both a small city bike, and a highway bike if needed, but it does neither as well, as the Navi does as a city bike, or anything 250 or above would do as a highway bike. It IS an amazing little minimoto just for the fact that it can technically do damn near anything if you needed it to. But zooming the Navi around the city, and 50 mph or less roads is just a freaking blast. And not having to shift in city traffic is wonderful. Consider the Grom is more than twice the price, and I could literally go to my local dealership today, buy a used low mile year old Royal Enfield 600 with a warranty that they traded in for $3500. For less than six grand I can have a city bike that is fun as shit and tears up the city, and a highway bike that is larger and can effortlessly cruise at highway speeds and above. I'd rather spend the little bit of extra money to have the best of both worlds properly.
@timsatchell6713 26 күн бұрын
Excellent idea and some very good follow up comments. I was considering something similar out of alloy, but slightly bigger to hang soft panniers. Don't care what it looks like, I'm tooo old for that, but this gives strength and direction to my idea. Thanks everyone else for other great ideas. Gr8 community.
@Travisl04 27 күн бұрын
You're back. Love your videos. I have a 23 grom as well
@irongoatrocky2343 27 күн бұрын
I did not go with the cheapest aftermarket handles I found a higher quality set on Amazon which suit me fine... Don't get me wrong but Amazon has a better product selection than just basic the basic China made parts if one looks for them.... Trouble is living here in Thailand the Shipping and Customs Duties will almost double the price for the top quality USA Made product! Not to mention who the Shipper is......Here in Thailand UPS and FedEx are the pretty much the same Subcontractor for those companies and I've had issues with them for trying to use the ruse of Thai Customs to claw more Thai Baht out of you for their pockets... not to mention the delivery delays if any delivery at all!......... GO COUGS!
@mr.somebody1493 27 күн бұрын
First.
@Juleus-xc5vu Ай бұрын
This man is really really helpful, I have been looking and needing a person to explain everything about these two. I am a first time rider and just wanted to know my better option for a first bike. This video makes me want to get a Grom but the Navi will probably be better for me. Thank you so very much for explaining everything and comparing.
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Casey_E Ай бұрын
will they fit an SF/2020 Grom?! thats a good idea
@cb3391 Ай бұрын
Both! Navi then grom!
@cb3391 Ай бұрын
Won't ever give up my Navi. Making a Navi Touring. I hope they make an upgrade kit. Love to see a 150cc Navi Scootercycle! Navi Nation!
@Butwhy293 Ай бұрын
Pick my Navi up tomorrow. Can’t wait
@cb3391 Ай бұрын
Be careful you will love this little bike, she's got personality.
@fizzkew5450 Ай бұрын
I followed every step in here and have torn it apart multiple times but I either get 0 clutch activation or I have no play in the part I connect the cable too. Seems like the problem you had at the end of the video I just don’t understand what you are talking about ?
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
make sure everything is fully 100% absolutely lined up and fully seated in the bottom of the basket. that’s what my issue was, it wasn’t all the way down in the bottom of the stack.
@JtriX21 Ай бұрын
Still looking for luggage? Try harbortown Honda
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
I ordered some from my local Honda dealer a week or two ago! Just waiting for them to come in now. I'm 99% sure it won't fit with my high mount exhaust but I'm sure as hell going to try.
@anthonymoy4471 Ай бұрын
Needs a different tank style and it be bitchin
@johnnie5wreckingyard Ай бұрын
Got a 17 and a 21 The flip key is pretty cheap and nasty No desire whatsoever to change my 21 to flip key
@sirhorsechoker Ай бұрын
That adapter is a kick in the nuts 😅
@nyciron Ай бұрын
Does the Navi have a fuel filter?
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
Not that I know of.
@penguins0392 Ай бұрын
How would this handle riding off road on some musdy trails?
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
Ehhh depends? Are you slinging mud up that high? Do you have a fender? I probably wouldn't recommend it.. maybe go for the koso hurricane filter cover where it's still rear facing?
@Queensraces Ай бұрын
9 mins to get tot he point😂 omg waste of life
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
goes to a video to get an answer.. complains it’s a video? you ok bro?
@94cast Ай бұрын
is it possible to insert the Helmet in the outside net?
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
Pretty unlikely, I don’t think it has enough stretch for that.
@LILMADERR23 Ай бұрын
What are the advantages the after-market adjusters? Does it just replace the lock nut?
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
The stock ones are a pain to re-align and get all finagled together when you’re pulling the rear wheel. They also aren’t the most robust and it’s pretty easy to bend them when adjusting if you aren’t being extra careful. Just a beefier part overall.
@LILMADERR23 Ай бұрын
Woah. The animosity in your voice towards kilometers... 😂 Thanks for the help
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
Which is funny, since I actually like using cm when measuring and modeling things, and often use Celsius for temperature haha
@robertduncan6211 Ай бұрын
Any big difference on adjusting the preload? I installed last night and havent adjusted the preload yet
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
Pretty big difference, yeah. If it feels like it sinks down too much when you get on it or is extra bouncy in the rear, where it doesn’t take much force for the shock to compress, add in a few turns and see if it gets better.
@stevenmichaelis Ай бұрын
Spencer. Thanks for sharing your videos. It has been a year since this video, and I would love to hear your thoughts now. Are you still happy with the 428 conversion? When you need to replace your chain do you think you will you keep it, or will you go back to a 420, or maybe a non-x-ring chain?? I am planning on some long distance trips on my Grom and trying to sort out a few details that will help with power in the mountains and not kill fuel economy. Thanks for your thoughts!
@SpencerDesmarais Ай бұрын
I'm still happy with it! Still glad I went to a chain with rings for less maintenance, o, x, whichever. With 428 and 420 x-ring chains essentially being the same cost, I have no regrets going 428.
@tomconte1765 2 ай бұрын
Now you can't ride in the rain but you can flies, yaay!
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
Haven't had a single issue riding in the rain from the filter. It's not like rain is going to cause my engine to hydro lock or anything, and even if the filter was 100% soaked there isn't enough vacuum to tear apart the filters. The bigger issue is not running a front fender and spraying myself haha
@jamie55555 2 ай бұрын
i have a new rear shock but its 1.5 inches shorter than the stock shock since you already went through this what part of the bike has to move to make my install possible ? thanks
@johncamilleri6654 2 ай бұрын
I have the latest model it has oil filter. do it have one inside to ???????????
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
It has the filter that you get to from the outside and the screen on the inside, yes.
@anthonymoy4471 2 ай бұрын
That looks like a nice piece and the spring rate seems right from my testing on similar bikes. Might have to snag this how do you like?
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
Zero complaints, still! Price was right and it works well for me after dialing in the preload a bit on it.
@joekavalauskas8767 2 ай бұрын
Kriega 5 looks right. I got the kemimoto 7-14l rain bag and it’s too much for me. I think I like this Kriega
@-KRIGER- 2 ай бұрын
Quick question! Does having those dual colors blinkers and using it as running light means that you don't use the main front light anymore??
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
No I still use the main front light, I haven’t touched that part of the harness at all. Good question.
@ronsullivan4205 2 ай бұрын
I have one on my grom not a fan due to having a top case it’s right against my back. I had the same thought about covering the tail light. Don’t forget to put lock tight lost a bolt. Wish I could share my pics I also have panniers.
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I need to go back through and add a dab. I lost my original Zoom exhaust bolt and spacer because it vibrated itself out. I've been debating dropping the coin to get the OEM Honda asia-region panniers and racks. I'm wondering if they'll introduce them in the US with the new 2025 models later this year, though.
@ipdjbt 2 ай бұрын
I vote that you should become an importer for Grom and Monkey goodies, lol. Also, are you still liking the MZS foot pegs?
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
I have exactly zero extra time to take on that responsibility lol Yeah, still liking the pegs! Honestly don't even think about them anymore, they just work great and my feet stick.
@bitmap47 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I have been looking for just this, logged in, saw your video, I love how things work out. Love your videos.
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
Haha! Love how life works. I'm surprised more people aren't running this rack, honestly. Especially for the price. It's cheaper than an amazon/Kemimoto, even.
@The1stPistolSniper 2 ай бұрын
I think I still prefer the Kemimoto rack since it hangs off the back of the bike rather than over the seat. I'm not that tall but I do go for rides pretty frequently and having the extra room at the back of the bike so I can choose whatever position I get to sit in still makes a difference. It does make sense to why you wouldn't want to cover the brake light but I also run the TST Integrated and its pretty bright and I haven't run in to any issues. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now that I'm looking through Amazon, Kemimoto now has Molle side panels for the GROM. Though I have also been looking at this eBay seller doing solid Molle panels for the 2022+ Grom.
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, fair enough. It does limit the rear-ward travel, but I don't need to superman off the back of the seat haha And do they really? I'll have to go look those up. Copycats haha. For all the videos I've made for them...don't even have the decency to send me a free one 🤣
@The1stPistolSniper 2 ай бұрын
@@SpencerDesmaraisAsk to review them! I just saw them and debating between those and the eBay ones but ill probably grab the eBay ones since they have a smaller footprint.
@noxin75 2 ай бұрын
Neat Product, can you take the seat off with the rack still mounted?
@SpencerDesmarais 2 ай бұрын
Yessir! There's enough room to get it in and out without removing it. Getting enough pressure on the back to pop it back in isn't fun, but isn't that hard either
@ataulmd8221 2 ай бұрын
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@baseballfanatic110 3 ай бұрын
Please help me. I notice you have 3-3 adapters for your front turn signals. That way you can use blinker and running lights. For my back blinkers, I have turn signals that also turn red for brakes. Would I also need another 3-3 adapter for the back?
@SpencerDesmarais 3 ай бұрын
Hey, without seeing exactly what you bought it might be hard but i’ll take my best guess. The rear turn signals are bullet connectors, not a mini 3 pin. So blue or orange (depending on the side), green, would go to two of the pins on your new one. And then whichever pin is the brake light you’d need to tap off of the brake light wire. I don’t think an off the shelf adapter will do what you’re wanting. Hope that helps, but again, it’s my best guess without seeing exactly what you have going on.
@ghettosled1976 3 ай бұрын
What was the approximate cost of this? I’ve been wanting to do it for two years and always find other things to spend on, but it’s about time. Almost done welding my own design 12 bar, so DIY is always my first choice 😂
@SpencerDesmarais 3 ай бұрын
Springs and fluid was about $125. I think I said in the video though, it's a huge improvement and worth it, but if I were to do it again I'd go fully cartridge replacement for the extra $$. Depending on the kit those are 200-300.
@ghettosled1976 3 ай бұрын
@@SpencerDesmarais yea you mentioned a few different paths and I know there’s adjustable preload versions and all sorts of things. I’m more a set it and forget it kinda guy. My Svartpilen had adjustments on everything imaginable and I never touched them. There’s too many options out there for my tiny brain so I’d like to possibly double the resistance and only do it once lol.
@webdogg9119 3 ай бұрын
Installing an LED bulb for the dash indicator will fix this as well!
@SpencerDesmarais 3 ай бұрын
It will, but you need to make sure and use a very high quality LED that can handle reverse polarity. LED's are diodes by nature, it's in the name, but they kind of suck at being a diode and are easily blown by reverse current going across it. Some are designed to handle it better than others.
@webdogg9119 3 ай бұрын
Makes sense! I didn’t know that was the case. I’ll keep you posted to see how long it works before it blows (if/when it does). Mainly just used it as a quick “hm I wonder if this will work.” If it blows I’ll install the diodes! Appreciate the info!
@amd4710 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the quick video! Would appreciate a way for quickly checking the coolant level
@gustaverasmus3163 3 ай бұрын
A quick way to check the coolant level on a F800 GS is shining a torch from the front right shock arm into the bottom of the collant housing. If you then look from the top of the bike (the gap right-under the steering handle) you can easily see the liquid inside the housing. You can take off the lid as well.
@furiofrazole1543 3 ай бұрын
my sit down RR Pro electric scooter has bigger wheels than a Navi?
@lanleyc433 3 ай бұрын
What gauge wire did you use
@SpencerDesmarais 3 ай бұрын
I used a weird 14 gauge size I had laying around, but they're LED's, so you could probably go down to like 20 just fine.
@lanleyc433 3 ай бұрын
@@SpencerDesmarais thank you!
@lanleyc433 3 ай бұрын
The yellow brown and black that you said are just “pass through” are just re linking existing wiring from the previous stock harness correct?
@SpencerDesmarais 3 ай бұрын
@lanleyc433 Yup
@lanleyc433 3 ай бұрын
@@SpencerDesmarais just finished doing this- thank you for this awesome video/ resource!
@English_MoFo 3 ай бұрын
0:33 hmmm. A tach, fuel gauge and gear indicator. Amazing duel sport bikes don’t have them 😡