13:50 on Friendly Ambitious Nerd 25:50 origin of labyrinth metaphor in Introspect 32:00 nerdy lineages 35:00 identity and representation 40:00 singapore 47:30 twitter 51:00 royal touch 58:15 isolated nerds 1:03:00 self-obsession from fear not love 1:06:00 asking for help 1:24:20 richdecibels' stringing up the hammock 1:26:00 rapid-fire questions

what is the podcast about?

Is this on Spotify? because I can't find

This one has slightly the better sound quality.

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The 'rewarding your readers' idea reminds me of how long form narratives were serialized in the newspapers like Sherlock Holmes

"I am giving up on trying to find better ways than doing what works" is a great quote!

I’m reminded of Calvin Harris saying it’s easier to start a song with a rough concept in mind OR the idea from "the timeless way of building" that the house builds itself in the mind with the patterns you want to incorporate.

regarding VV1/VV2 and maybe VV3, i was thinking the other day about the order in which one "should" read those. i think even tho i liked introspect/vv2, and i liked FAN/VV1, that just bc introspect hadn't come out at the time, I read them in that chronological order, but something of the aftertaste had me feeling like if i were to recommend the books myself to someone else, i would probably choose the reverse order. first read introspect, then FAN. i actually read a quote recently about an unrelated subject that was "if introspection were sufficient to reveal the true structure of human psychology, it's not clear why we would even need to do science; we would just know. It's precisely because careful observation and experiments can tell us things about ourselves that we didn't already know, that science is useful.", and even though it is about a different topic it somehow made it click lol. introspect as the starting point and FAN as the frame after it from what i've read from you i think that introspect kinda arose after that post-FAN era, the "VV2 era" was borne out of the feedback of that, out of the things ppl were missing, ppl's blindspots that you saw, so maybe you agree with that order as well. and tying it to the frame studies/substack/VV3 era maybe the added challenge is that this is actually going to be what goes after VV2 instead of "before it" so there's no "gaps to fill" and it's more uncharted. the "if you were to make just one [x] per year what would it be" question is interesting. i'm blanking out tbh, i think questions going around it often but i never come up with a satisfying answer for myself. maybe it's because my [x] is youtube videos and i (maybe mistakenly, given my audience lol) see them as spiritual dialogues so i expect to come back in a back and forth continuously rather than "tackle something in a big blow" and then dip. i relate to what you said about the "video essay" thing as well, in my case not bc of time constraints bc i have a kid tho lol, just bc i can't find my voice, and maybe even more importantly, the message, for that "container". i do think it's probably time for my version of thinking of, maybe in my case not OK computer but my Creep/Pablo Honey instead of keeping playing gigs at taverns, or maybe even practicing at the school music room On A Friday lol

some co-living houses have chore charts but that makes cleaning up feel like…a chore. Instead we just host a weekly dinner and housemates naturally clean up beforehand cuz their friends are coming

little one seeing all around looking at sounds

YOU HAVE SIBLINGS?!? PLURAL?!?? That is by far the greatest revelation of this podcast. I can’t believe I’ve followed you for years and was led to believe you were an only child! Despite the noise, nice episode - always fascinating to hear more Visa & Sharan lore!

Looking forward to see the next iteration!

Just came back from a trip. They are great chapter markers for life. Even the preparing and returning.

nice video

Visa, about "you should quit when you feel its time to quit", but what if the feeling is just to escape short term pain but looking back it feels worth it to pushing back against the feeling and completing, how do you distinguish between genuine feeling of "this most probably wont work" lets pack it aside and low level urge to just give up when difficulty sets in "this is too much effort, I could do xyz and get better results right now" which might feel good since it feels like progress, but you are stuck in a pit of low level effort which is not good enough if you want to perform at higher level and achieve higher goals?

I like the idea of albums of Essays. Also: Makes me think of remix culture where musical reference and pay homage to previous works.

Thanks. I see your content, your tweets, and I somehow realise I'm normal, given the circumstances I've faced. It calms me down and gives me some strength. Thanks visa.

hi visa

This resonates with me. I've been feeling artistically angsty and not in a fruitful way. Helpful message.

im very on board with the ethos of making content regardless of gear but i would really appreciate a lav mic for these videos i must be honest

Seems like the timescale could be an important factor here - e.g. might be worth being invested in the results in the short-term to trigger change (e.g. noob gains, Hades first win instead of giving up), but developing detachment over time. Especially because thinking long-term is often a bit lossy, so it's easy to delulu ourself into believing change is going to happen without the daily work needed for it.

I struggle with this on a daily basis. And I have found the same solution, that is, thinking really long term. Though watching this video made me realise how much I needed to talk about it lol.

I think the sports phrase is “choke”/“choking”

I relate to so much of what you've said here and been thinking about it in the context of climbing. One thing I find interesting is how often I can send something I've been struggling with when right before doing it I've resolved to not give a shit about how it goes. It seems to me that's the moment where detachment matters most. After the event it's fine if you're happy or suffering or whatever (from a maximalist pov I even think just feel whatever you feel!) so long as before the next attempt you know you're going to try really hard regardless of whether it pays off or not.

i've been watching a lot of videos of people cleaning hoarder houses and i related to that comment at the end of "how do you know you're not being a hoarder with some kinda disorder" lol i think there's a little bit of both on my life, i think i do keep a lot of stuff , i am "messy" in an obvious way to most ppl who've visited somewhere where i live lol and that i "under review" stuff so i end up not knowing why some things i'm "hoarding" are there in the first place or what i meant for them to evoque; but i also think for some reason (maybe i'm more sensitive or emotional than some ppl in that way - my mom for example is the opposite of me, maybe i have worse memory than other ppl, or i'm more conscious of how it has failed me) objects or text from way back can bring memories that i didn't know or give me a perspective that i'd forgotten until i encountered them and those moments have had an outsized impact on me so i now pay attention to things in my own life that other ppl ignore or discard

man the "visa keeps making extremely useful sense" to "why don't you actually get around to reading his shit" pipeline keeps getting wider all the time.....someday....

I like your framing of "what corners am I preserving that I don't actually need to be". last week I feel like ive been wasting a lot of time at work with some source material/part that was known to be unreliable while trying to fix something else. should've proceeded with the next part much more often than getting hung up on 'but it worked the previous time I used it'. making the part reliable wasn't my job and it cost me a lot of time which I regret.

"I think I identify as a hypertext library" If that isn't the most *Visa* thing you've ever said 🤣🤣 I heavily relate too, I feel like my scattering of youtube comments, tweets and discord messages actually give the truest picture of my worldview and identity. And I have this frustrating wish that I could beam it all into someones brain before attempting to converse with them. Especially if it's a disagreeable conversation, so many misunderstandings would be avoided if both parties had the proper context...

Short hair. finally. Like it much better.

went through 21 twitter bookmarks after watching this (went through = transferred them to scrivener with some commentary on why I think past-me bookmarked them). slowly seeing some patterns in what i tend to bookmark

What does going through your notes/cleaning them up mean? Do you just throw out what's not interesting anymore or do you aggregate the interesting bits into another note? A secret third thing?

I've come to realize "organizing my notes" is a todo that never goes away, and shouldn't, since it is basically synonymous with thinking/working at all. It is simply the process of refining, but what you are refining is text, which is the universal interface for thought, and you can't work without thinking. This was relieving to realize, because it turned a constant lingering frustration into a recognition that my notes are always going to be disorganized, because otherwise the implication would be that they are perfectly organized, meaning I'm not learning/thinking any new thoughts; nothing new to assimilate, no change or progress.

awsome episode man

cool episode

Lol nice Whyd you upload it now?

hey what a line up! 👌 this is a legendary pairing

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You feel that this video is not satisfactory enough for you. Fair enough, it might not be. But I took so many points and rough ideas from it, that I know I'll have to watch the video at least 5x more to fully digest it. Thanks for making these videos, man!

omg little baby bobbing there haha what great enrichment for him!

people reading without listening

"some framings perpetuate the problems that they frame" there is so much that can be unpacked there re: identity, helplessness, and then on the flipside a whole area of things where language can actually build and create in a positive way as well, and this all rests on the fuzziness of language...

Everything tastes like chicken.

Sometimes something being from "long ago" means that it's even more powerful, like an ancient dragon

I listened fully and would love to listen to the remaining part of this video, especially about the people that actually take the risk and do things for themselves!

so many beautiful nuanced explorations and insights derived from immersion into this headset dialogue 🤓 thank you for the dance

Lol, the off-focus of the off-focus was funny. starts so meta and ends so meta, i loved the whole thing super interesting how y'all tied it to happiness at around 21:00. this "where to be unmuddled and where to let go" point has me thinking of, well, that, but it also made me realize that there are some things where i want to participate/that i want to do/etc bc they bring me joy, but where i don't necessarily think it's "mandatory" that i do it in an "unmuddled" way, it can be muddled but still something i want to do. Interesting 2x2 matrix of "unmuddled-muddled" axis vs "want to- don't want to participate" axis, reflecting a bit on it makes me think that there is stuff in at least 3 fields (wonder if unmuddled-don't want to should have stuff in it) i'd be interested in knowing what the "off-focus meditation" equivalent from around 43:00 is, who those "no mind" meditators. maybe i follow some already but now i'm more interested, i hadn't paid attention to that "no mind" thing in this context the "how to spread bullshit in a way that fixes bullshit" question was hilarious and it has me thinking about your classic "focus on what you want to see more of" lol. i think that's what i set out to do on youtube, that's the reason why i'm fascinated with mrbeast, and what i thought i could and wanted to help people with. the headset midwit meme helps me get it better, i liked how it all connects together

My wife instantly sleeps so easily on vacation. And in this case, it's not someone else where I'm saying "why can't they solve that problem" it's me 🤦‍♂. Definitely something deeper going on.

A show where one character is pure success and no failure would bring the whole thing to a screeching halt. It would also be so boring. Also... oh you don't have it all figured out?? ALL of life? It's an absurd premise we put on ourselves. Both of these ideas are from Rob Bell.

The Obstacle is the Way. Reminding myself that experimenting and making mistakes is a part of the process. I can't skip to the end.