I am firmly convinced that Gladius is plus on whiff

Marisa's strikes are Zangief's command grabs *_big ass damage_*

Thanks for the pep talk

"not gonna mention honda because again relevant" why do they always do this to my boy

Marisa definitely feels power crept by Bison, they have the same strength and weaknesses; but Bison has better speed, damage, special moves and throw loops! I started the game with Marisa, and I’ve bounced off her after getting twerked on by Kens.

Could you make an update video on JP

Neutral is the hardest thing to learn in FGs. Thank you for the video 🙏🏾

Zangief top tier lol no

amazing video. im still plat and far from being able to apply these concepts fully but was fun and inspiring. time to work on more basic stuff tho, im still missing too many antiairs 😂

This is why I can never take fighting games seriously because somehow these multi million dollar companies can’t design a game that’s fair and balanced. Bison is only overpowered because it’s about sales and getting people to purchase the newer characters that should be probably added to the main roster anyway.

I get it it not easy to solo Marisa this season 2 yes still win the matchups if out smart your opponents and whiff punish her natural not beat some cases ed matchup is tough mu not possible still it shut her offense gladius armor got to be super patience. But i like gulie matchup is fine zangief it more annoying but does same gameplan have guess right whiff punish him too. Marisa does not bad with akuma stop his air options if he does reckless not spaced it get cooked of the armor ground game it very tricky i only superman akuma charged fireball the rest walk and block . I just watch have to watch out hk low ranks akuma love doing that lol. Now facing bison mu not a fan but starting to understand it my problem is not patience enough that why my Marisa is stuck at diamond 3.

Only dents dont see how bison is better than Marisa. But its sf6, so dents are the main demographic

The improvment for Marisa that I listed before the patch was +10-15% walk speed.

Marisa main here since S1 (big fan of you and big bird, you made me pick this character), and I was expecting this exact analysis for Marisa in S2. I had the same feeling, and tbh I had it since reading the patchnote. Losing strong OKI in favor of better damage, something Marisa absolutely does not need, can look good out of context. But when the rest of the cast got buffs in various areas like framedata, hitboxes etc I had the feeling that nothing will change for Marisa except almost every matchup would become harder. And it's exactly what happened. Even at my medium level (1450 MR), I really feel it. I'm not surprised Big Bird dropped her (his Rashid is so freaking good), as well as you currently wondering about swapping to Bison.

All of the people whining about Marisa being “weak” in this comment section have never heard of a archetype. Trying to argue other characters can do this better, but comparing themselves to shotos, smaller faster characters, and any character that doesnt even compare to what she is. She is a big body, juggernaut. Tbh, her movement speed should be slower. She is mad fast for a big body of her caliber, and a good drive rush. Like she glides mad far and fast with her drive rush. She isnt supposed to fight with fast normals. She isnt supposed to be able to run characters down. She shouldnt have crazy defensive options. Her offense is her defense. Her overwhelming power, and threat of getting hit forces the opponent to play outside of their standard gameplan, because that standard gameplan she can destroy. Big Body powerhouse characters arent supposed to have a bunch a safe pressure. They should be losing their turn FREQUENTLY. Yall spoiled as fuck right now with SF6. You been carried by the game mechanics, and built in “player-friendly” system features that allow you to play unlike any other street fighter has taught you before. Yall dont know crap about neutral. Yall think getting wins in this game make you good, when you try the same BS that got you that win anywhere else and you get blown up because those other games are designed to have counter play to BS. Marisa is exactly where she should be. She isnt a shoto. She isnt a small agile character. She plays how she should. You all just need to play better. Outsmart your opponents. Actually learn matchups. Learn frame traps and real okizeme, not drive rush throw all day. Get good.

I mained Marisa all throughout S1 but now I'm bouncing between Akuma and Bison. It's not so much about them being better at being the high damage characters. It's that they're both a lot more interesting and fun to play. Marisa is so linear and at the same time has garbage defence. That's such a restrictive combination.

The HK target combo was a good change but that's it. I would just want a good anti air.

I really want my Bison in Masters but I’m stuck in diamond 4 and I want out lol

Marisa is easy to play and isn't a charge character, so that's her strength.

500hp？

I'd stay true to Mama Mari. Because in an ideal world Bison ass should get a crazy nerf coming up, while Marisa might be good when Terry drops. In the world we live in, where people are making grey, semi downplay content about him, when the actual Black and White is that he's overtuned..... he might not get a nerf, if we go off of S2 balance notes. So who knows. 🤣

Strider 6 is destined for M Characters in sf6 now. Manon, Marisa, and now M Bison

im curious on your thoughts on why gief marisa isnt marisa favored. from the gief perspective winning neutral is feels pretty difficult since gladius blows up the majority of giefs pokes since gief doesnt have a threatening low besides sweep and if marisa ever blocks that she converts into a full combo. A lot of the time i feel i have to throw out yolo jumps and hope for the best. they both steamroll each other on offense but i feel her slightly better defense and being more likely to land that first impactful hit (also because whiffing spd vs her is game losing) gives her a very meaningful advantage.

they should just give marisa a reversal

Man, first Big Bird, now Strider too... :/

Only Incel beta play with Marisa.....I can't be a grown ass man playing with a female tank character that it hard like a man which its pretty pathetic,.... Typical soft sensitive world we in lol.....

lol I’m Tom!

Definitely asking myself to I continue using her. Or move to Bison lol. I moved to Bison unfortunately.. gave her a proper send off though💙

I hear what your saying. But Marissa is too much fun

Everyone dropping Marisa as I've been finding myself loving her more and more 😭

The biggest reason to play Marisa over Bison, Bison isn't a muscle mommy. Edit: I commented before I got to the "sweats" part.

both Honda and Marisa getting replaced by Bison in the same patch is crazy work

As a former Honda player... yes. Yes he is.

I agree with pretty much everything, except even tho both characters have a weak AA game bison's is still a lot better off for having hell attack and 5HK, the latter being consistent with a proper AA hurtbox (on the leg at first, then on the foot only) until and while active, giving him an option against far jump-ins, and both can potentially lead into a conversion (on PC only for 5HK) into pressure whereas marisa's only recourse to stop people from jumping from far away is risking the air-to-air for a KD from which she gets no oki without bar as her reward (and even then if they're really far she only gets j.MK or j.HK both of which air reset), or gladius which is inconsistent because of the short-lived armor and which just resets to neutral where she's worse than bison To me bison really is just a less risky, more consistent, just overall less volatile marisa

yes...even big bird drops Marisa for Bison. Bison is like superior Marisa now.

Marisa is better than Bison. She's a Drive gauge killer. Built in DI even when she's in burnout. Easy mode combos and does big damage. A command grab. She has longer pokes as well. Checkmate after CA scenario. People are overhyping Bison because he's new. Marisa seems to still be the better option.

So funny to see this. I'm away for a month without sf so I've been watching a lot of videos and I was just starting to think bison will make me switch when I get back. I'm really curious to see how much time it'll take me to get to the same MR

Marisa didn't deserve nerfs except for a few niche things like the scaling on crouch MP > ex QCF K. Everyone else is starting to feel how strong their characters still are while Marisa is definitely weaker than she was and she already wasn't top tier.

Can you do a video explaining the Marisa/Guile advantage? I still suck against him smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

Bison is easily better than Marisa. Bison can anti-air!

Glad you are playing Bison, just hope they dont nerf the character to the ground, a lot of people complaining on things that shouldnt be nerfed

Im mainly a deejay but moved to bison because i got deejay to master and bison is one of my favourites, he feels tougher to play, ive really gotta develop more skills to get more wins, getting rusheddown by these relentless online sweats feels ridiculous, im just constantly guessing 😂

With Marisa it feels like Capcom did this double dip in terms of weaknesses to compensate for her high damage. They made her defense really weak from multiple angles but also made it so that her offensive options are severely limited with almost nonexistent combo routes from lows, plus normals being exclusively fully charged heavies, bad throw oki, slow walkspeed, dr and buttons in general with only a handful being cancelable.... etc. I personally think that the limited offense should be enough and that her defense should at least be solid, enough character's have super oppressive offense (like Bison) with tons of options and Marisa missing that while also being super susceptible to it herself feels really bad.

None of yall winning a million dollars play who you like

I'm holding out hope that Terry Bogard will be a good combo with Marisa. I'm going to pick up Terry no matter what but fingers crossed he covers some of her gaps and is as fun to play.

I mean most characters are better than Marisa

Figured we'd get a Bison video after that TNS performance. I encourage everyone to play whoever is the better choice. We'll be sad to lose a good Marisa but that's fine!

lol @ gief being overtuned. He's high tier, but def not top

I watched your video when it first came out. I'd say I'm among the top 1% players globally, but this is nothing compared to any of the memorable players... let alone the pro players. I can honestly say watching this video has definitely pushed me to get there. I cannot begin to express how useful the information every time I play.

Crying inside cus we used to EAT off GC punish 😭