Personally i wanted and hoped for scouts getting an extra op. Jamie is pleased :)
@CanYouRollaCrit11 сағат бұрын
Looks like you got a brucey bonus too 😂
@djowalsen23 сағат бұрын
Needed some explosion effects for the intro and outro. Surprised there was nothing for Kroot or Breachers, but I guess they are out of ideas. Also, RIP Intercession.
@revandb3438Күн бұрын
As far as i can tell the patriarch does count traverse as part of his movement- this aligns with the ruling they made about warpcoven with their similar ability. Makes the bound ploy extra powerful i suppose.
@CanYouRollaCrit17 сағат бұрын
Ooooh true, yeah Bound gets even better
@hu9f47Күн бұрын
I read this dataslate and instantly called Gellarpox the winner. Glad to see I’m not alone. Also the number of changes some factions are getting is nuts. That said, I’d rather they keep trying to get it right than just leave some teams in the dust.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
It's just weird who they choose to leave in the dust tho
@Pr0k4sКүн бұрын
Great video ^^ Phobos has the same knife... but they forgot how to use it. With the Eldar they matched the rifles of all their kill teams. Will they do the same?
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Thanks! Marines are clearly holding back compared to Scouts haha Maybe?
@WEBKairos92Күн бұрын
Hierotek nerf awful. I think the best way is to make it without rolling dice ever (so you gain more control over your reanimations), than its ok that you use reanimation after living metal. And technomancer should be like +2 to reanimation and living metal, instead of +1. So if you pick Chono - you should play more risky, but have nice abilities. And your wounds after reanimation will be like D3+2=3-5, 2 res/round. And if you pick Techno - you become really tanky D3+5=6-8, 3 res/round
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
It wouldn't be enough to prevent Hierotek aggressively rushing people down tho
@WEBKairos92Күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit maybe, but it looks like if you try to rush with chrono - you will die fast. So your opponent just can play def at first and rush on 2+ round. And if you take Techno - you play constatly aggressive, but almost without your leader. GW change awful cause its not making other crypteks valuable, dont fix problems of team. Just making the whole team worse and less necron'ish
@WEBKairos92Күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit Also its very strange, cause in article about dataslate they said "slight adjustment" and not a "we saw that this team kill everyone, so we made equal changes to them". Its strange and looks like mistake
@RhuowaveКүн бұрын
Dwarf buffs? Love to see it the dozer is still my favorite model in kill team For the love of the emperor GW do something with Kroot. I wish they’d get a proper rework like hierotek got back in the day but damn at this point I’ll take basically anything that actually helps them
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah love dorf buffs but poor scouts
@RhuowaveКүн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit the scouts are probably the single least interesting team in the game to me. I simply could not be less interested in them good or bad. But I imagine GW has a contractual obligation to keep space marines high tier and since the others have fallen off I guess it’s this teams turn
@Nailgun26Күн бұрын
I’m not sure what you mean by running all shotguns and knives for the scouts? They don’t have knives as equipment just the extra blade that gives a knife balanced. You still have to decided between the super shotgun and the super knife
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah so 5 with shotguns and 5 with knives. Ultimate pincer threat
@leox.jaramillo3231Күн бұрын
Nerfing Pathfinders in ITD makes no sense to me. It's true that they are OP in the other modes, and the nerfs there make sense, but why a further ITD nerf, where they pretty much auto lose anyway?
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
They're better in ITD but it's very weird
@OlafKievitКүн бұрын
Thanks, some interesting changes. I guess Scouts couldn't stay worse than Yaeghir... And still no excuse to use a Corsair Heavy Gunner. Oh well, it can proxy a regular one just because it looks cool then.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Scouts went into overdrive
@davidkimball5222Күн бұрын
Every Warhammer shop I go into has plenty of scouts on the shelf.... I'm just saying 😊
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Already infiltrating
@jackgebhardt2932Күн бұрын
Alright. That's it. I will EXCLUSIVELY play Kinband until they get buffed!
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Brave warrior 🫡
@MsBatbossКүн бұрын
Where does it say that Hierotek reanimates now after living metal?
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Because they reverted to old wording. Prior wording specially changed reanimation to happen before living metal
@patelliott8282Күн бұрын
Just wait till he learns that every other forward deploy in the game also works 3 different ways ;)
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
They don't?
@patelliott8282Күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit Balance Dataslate, first page, Hazardous Areas, second bullet point. Core Rules Errata document, second page, Close Quarters, first entry.
@JimmyK53Күн бұрын
The scout buff is wild. Every time GW has done a +1 model buff it’s broken the team and this time they felt that wasn’t enough which is crazy.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah totally wrong buffs for scouts
@ChaseTheChamp11Күн бұрын
That Hierotek Circle nurf is WAY too much. Going down to +2 instead of +3 was okay, but if its true and living metal does not happen after reanimation anymore, that is just dumb.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
I think they could have found a middle ground but the change stops Crons rushing forwards
@neeeeeeeek9Күн бұрын
unusual nerfs for fellgor. not sure why they touched everything else but the problem itself, which is the frenzy ability 😅
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Frenzy is fine, apparently
@BigTexJКүн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit The Reckless Determination nerf is fairly huge, can no longer auto retain two saves if getting shot in cover, makes them much more vulnerable to TP1 shooting.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
@BigTexJ I don't know many who played that ploy as usually you're moving into positions where you cannot be shot TP1
@BigTexJКүн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit Never on ITD, but depending on an open board's layout (*cough* Dallas Open *cough*) you'd need to be in light cover just to try to score.
@johndemorris7388Күн бұрын
As a Scouts player, I'm not pleased. It feels like these changes were written by someone who has never played the faction. The lazy changes and the lack of a dev team video reek of "late in the edition" apathy.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah it goes against the narrative too
@DrewJarlsonКүн бұрын
That intro 😂 CYRAC is becoming a twitch streamer with that voice
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
I've been grippin it
@rosspowell4446Күн бұрын
Gonna field my kinband as space marine scouts now.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Assimilation complete
@tixedКүн бұрын
good review! still a bit confused about the necron's reanimation though... so they are not getting healing after being reanimated because it now says "instead"?
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah, reverted to old wording unfortunately
@oddbird9144Күн бұрын
I cannot believe the exaction squad's manacles haven't been boosted to work on 8 wound models. They really did give the team a fun, unique mechanic and then say it only works against like 6 teams in the game
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah working vs 8w would be fine, no idea why not changed
@oddbird9144Күн бұрын
It seems like it’s been a theme since launch that the balance sheets mostly ignore non-combat equipment and Tac Ops. Probably a nightmare to balance and playtest something when it’s effect on the game isn’t just changing a number, so I understand why - but it feels bad, seeing teams get boring stat changes when it looks like there are so many other levers they just didn’t touch.
@Athanase48067Күн бұрын
Yeah, it really kills the equipment and leaves the Casti and to a lesser extent doggy to do it
@BTTFFКүн бұрын
Agreed with scouts....
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Scout meta is here
@realnumber6882Күн бұрын
Yeah, now scout Marines using Knives strong like a Powersword while the Sergeant has to use a rusty chainsword. And the Primaris units are weaker than the new recruits... Who the hell thinks this Is Logic...
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Fearsome deadly Scout knives
@filipmaly660314 сағат бұрын
In space knives fights you commrades!
@mattbrown7759Күн бұрын
Legionary roster update is nice. Although i hope next edition they just scrap rosters altogether. Kill team doesn't need them, assuming they don't make some big changes.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Nah rosters are fine
@MsManualesКүн бұрын
Rosters are bad because teams either completely ignore them, or are indirectly nerfed because of them. It's either a neutral or negative experience @@CanYouRollaCrit
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
@MsManuales that's completely incorrect and why I did a video on the subject
@MsManualesКүн бұрын
Oh which one? I'm interested to hear why. Is it "how to use your roster"?@@CanYouRollaCrit
@Mangix_the_BearКүн бұрын
Gangsta opening
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Representing the London massive!
@hoshi314Күн бұрын
I think living metal happen before reanimation is reasonable. When i read living metal happen AFTER reanimation i was like "yo what? Did they mistype it? That doesn't make sense to me"
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Nah it's back to happening after reanimation now sadly
@hoshi314Күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit wait wait wait wait, wording problems here Living metal > reanimation right? Not reanimation > living metal since that means Hierotek got healed TWICE
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
@hoshi314 the order is now resolve living metal first for operatives in the killzone. Next you then roll for reanimation and roll for the operatives' wounds for d3+2 each
@chadbristow9929Күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit How do you know they revert back to the old wording? If they changed it to where Living Metal happens before Reanimation then it would be written that way in this updated balance sheet. It doesn't specifically say its reverting back to the old wording? Is that confirmed somewhere or are you just assuming?
@blacktauКүн бұрын
Farstalkers are in dire need of changes.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
No damage buffs allowed unless scouts 😭
@neeeeeeeek9Күн бұрын
that was honestly so weird not seeing any kroot buffs 😢 but to be honest, i wouldn't know exactly what to do with them if i were in the place of GW
@blacktauКүн бұрын
@@neeeeeeeek9 List of sugested changes to fix kroot / farstalkers while keeping some kind of operative skill restrictions. Essential: The pistolier can move and shoot twice (not charge) Dogs back to GA2 Stalker can do the special charge like now in conceal or at maximum range but in engage Cut-skin can attack two different targets (only if he kills the first one?) Surely necessary: Stalker loses the extra die Cut-skin with damage 3/5 If they continue to struggle: Buf Prey Meat at the beginning or end of activation Warriors with GA1 Triballest 4/5? Not sure but nice to fix: Secondary combo, remove it?
@gabormervo665018 сағат бұрын
Dire Avangers also need far sweeping changes
@neeeeeeeek917 сағат бұрын
@@blacktau great list of suggestions here! i do agree with pistolier and cut skin buffs, cuz right now they feel like they wanna deal damage but just can't GA1 on the dogs really helped them imo. sometimes GA2 can be hardto setup and may require you to waste a turn/sacrifice a model if only one dog was properly setup either way, hoping to get a whole wall of text for kroot in the next balancing 🤞
@samgodfrey3628Күн бұрын
Ha - laughed out loud at the intro. Super helpful as always
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
I'm always with the times while informative dudeeee 😎
@horrifichaloКүн бұрын
To be fair, a scout doing a backflip would look really sick.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Wicked sick scout bro
@KrakDukКүн бұрын
I really hope the next edition of Killteam doesn’t change much, just cleans up some messily written rules and maybe adds minor changes. If they try to simplify it like 10th or, god forbid, put it on a damn grid I’m gonna be devastated
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Likely just a refinement imo
@KlierowskiКүн бұрын
Be carefull what u wish for, edition 10th is a flaming stack of shit.
@KrakDukКүн бұрын
@@Klierowski I directly said I didn’t want it to get simplified like 10th?
@KrakDukКүн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit yeah that’s what I’m hoping. Also hope the bespoke teams get to keep their rules and the new ones keep a similar style so all the teams I made aren’t immediately invalidated
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
I think the only loss will be compendium teams
@bass.5822Күн бұрын
I really hope that the new edition doesn't change too much of the (in my opinion) very good core rules. Maybe a few rule simplifications and clarifications. But I hope it won't be a complete overhaul.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah will likely just be a refinement
@MercenaryQКүн бұрын
Salvagers have had so many extra rules tacked on at this point that gw needs to release their rules in print again. Not always fun starting at old information and having to cross check a pdf
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah their rules bloat is kinda crazy now
@jonrollason5709Күн бұрын
I mark up my books. It's messy, but better than using two documents!
@BTTFFКүн бұрын
Just use wahapedia ;)@@jonrollason5709
@Tulkash01Күн бұрын
What’s crazy is they were released WITH the Fellgors: one team was clearly underpowered while the other was wildly overpowered. This to me proves KT has no playtesting at all.
@TemurKing1Күн бұрын
GW to kroot and kasrkin players; "get gud scrub"
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
"You've reached your buff quota this edition" 😂😭
@Cobalt-60Күн бұрын
You know what I am going to say about the Scouts... WTH? None of the common sense recommendations (like remove LOS from the Sgt's +1 APL & add Cumbersome for the Hvy Weapons Gunners)... The +1 Warrior operative is just lazy. And the change to the combat knife is just plain weird. Well, at keast you have (once again...) proved that you are not a playtester. 😂
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
#NOTAPLAYTESTER I, for one, welcome our knife lord scout meta 🥲
@KnightyPainting-hh7ttКүн бұрын
Very nice looks like my Inquis agents can take some exaction squad support, also the hipster in me can finally play felgor without feeling like a meta slave. Also all the players who stuck with scouts deserved those buffs ^^
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Ah nice, yeah although they got crazy buffs 😅
@camplaysbassКүн бұрын
Hearthkyn Salvager player here! I played a game last night with the new dataslate rule and I have to say the new buffs are especially good on Gallowdark. Being able to move up to and alpha objective, securing a room and setting up is an absolute fortress with plasma knives , the Theyn’s weavefield 4+ invuln (which is harder to kill now with that damage negation) and a well placed barrier. The fact that damage can be reduced by 1 helps with survivability massively with the amount of 3/4 weapons in the game Pairing that with the grenadier’s utility grenade making it harder to approach or reducing the distance of enemy weapons to Red (which was especially useful against the pathfinder with a silent weapon, i forget the name), as well as the dozr positioned just inside the door and the full adoption of all the tokens and shenanigans, Fort Knux was real! Can’t wait to keep maining these guys, they aren’t suddenly S tier over night, but they are starting to feel like a tough bastards that I wanted them to be!
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Oooh sounds amazing! Yeah they're super strong now
@camplaysbassКүн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit For sure, I think mastering getting into the midrange and growing when a grudge is more valuable than a dwarf presents a pretty precarious play style (which can go horribly wrong if you're even slightly too ambitious in moving up the board), but they've always been the team I find most enjoyable to play (that is until I compete my nemesis claw I imagine haha)
@Scallywagz33Күн бұрын
YO YO YO YO, great as always!
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
YOYOYO THANKS FOR WATCHING DUDEEE
@misfitoffoolsКүн бұрын
I think Hierotek just changed from D3+3 to D3+2. They didn´t include the wording for timing in the Dataslate, so it should still be "In the Ready Operatives step of each Turning Point, before resolving the Living Metal ability, roll one D6 for each of your Reanimation tokens. On a roll of 1, leave that Reanimation token in the killzone. On a 2+, operatives are successfully reanimated:"
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
No, the original change clarified it happening after Living metal, as that is removed, Reanimation now happens after Living Metal healing again
where is my Intercession buff? Sad day for normal marines.
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
Yeah sad Ints didn't get a buff ):
@leox.jaramillo3231Күн бұрын
I get that intercession is an intro/middle of the road team, but it could be legitimately competitive when introduced. I too was hoping for a small buff, as they are increasingly getting gatekept by new teams.
@kawaiinda6252Күн бұрын
Hey, I don't really understand why I need a second box of these? Do the 10 Cadians not come in the box? From what I understand this should be the leader, one of each specialists and then the patriarch. Can you please specify what is missing in the box? I have Vet Guard - can figures from those just be used here xD?
@CanYouRollaCritКүн бұрын
You could use vet guard but you need 5 more Cadians to get all the specialost and gunner options
@rodinam18872 күн бұрын
shouldnt that nemesis claw chainglave reaper deal 2 mortal wounds to the patriarch due to the reap1 special rule as he had 2 crits, on 29:00 smth like that. i gues that would have made a difference
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Nah reap doesn't affect the target, only enemey operatives within black of the target or fighter sadly
@rodinam18872 күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit oh, you are right, sry)
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
@rodinam1887 no worries, all good!
@KieranRones2 күн бұрын
Little strip of paint on the top above windows/doors (different colours?), similar to what people do above doors on ITD, would maybe make games easier and be next to no work. Looks good though.
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Ah it's nit possible due to the light cover above the doors sadly
@m1northreat2 күн бұрын
curious why he didnt cp reroll the mind control attempt
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
You can't sadly
@m1northreat2 күн бұрын
Ooo geez that is sad 😢
@beesmcgee2 күн бұрын
I got similarly trounced in my game as the Brood Bros with the Patriarch. I'm really not seeing why so many people have the impression the team is overpowered, but maybe its just too early to say
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Oh they're deffo OP, at my event this Saturday and Sunday they went 1st, 2nd, 8th and 10th. They still require finesse to play but are dominating when done so
@jackgebhardt29322 күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit It's like if Blooded had better equipment and strat ploy.
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
And fused with Vet Guard 😂
@jackgebhardt29322 күн бұрын
@@CanYouRollaCrit I'm still miffed as hell they got bound.
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Nothing makes sense for Brood Bro lol
@hercules23422 күн бұрын
what type of laser pointer are you using?
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Dakota's one from Lusters workshop (:
@mozark10433 күн бұрын
GG! Need more battle reports :) +1 vote for the Yaegirs
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Haha thanks, Yaegirs just need finishing off with painting 😅
@thelizardqueen1233 күн бұрын
what on earth was that patriarch play.... move.... mind control... then dash back into no mans land? Charge... fight the leader.... mind control the gunner to shoot his mate on the right of him.
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Gunner is out of range, but Charles realised he should have Charged. I thought that was his original play
@anthonymartin26043 күн бұрын
Doesn’t the agitator have a JAS?
@CanYouRollaCrit2 күн бұрын
Only against normal hits
@ryanxyz60333 күн бұрын
Poor Charles, I can feel him get tilted 5 mins into every game