I'm not sure where I got that from! Perhaps mixed up with taking a stress to reroll a dice?

Ahhh, I think I remember an email about that. Yeh, looks very similar to MD2, which I'm not a huge fan of to be honest. It all felt a bit random. Think I'll give that one a pass ;)

Sorry to hear that Michael! It's quite an outlier in the Zombicide system and is unlikely to receive any further development, so I didn't want to push people toward it.

I think 8 hours would be normal for experienced gamers (not necessarily experienced with TI4 I mean, just games in general). My group tends to be... not. So there's a lot of analysis paralysis ;)

@@TabletopDungeon Yeah, I played about a month ago with me, a very experience player and 4 people new to the game, who were all long-time gamers, and we did it in around 8 hours. Trying to teach this to non-gamers and get them to play it??? I couldn't imagine it really. I showed my brother the box and some the tiles and his eyes were glazing over. At this point I mostly am just blinging out my set and watching youtube videos, to feed the craving. <sigh>

Definitely 2nd ed modern - if only for the fact that it has campaign expansions, which I wouldn't play without now. Which reminds me, I totally forgot to review that!

Ahhh, sorry - I think that was a Kickstarter bonus thing. It's entirely inconsequential though, to be honest! Just put another road tile off to the side

Whoa! Thanks for dropping by, and for making such a great game. Looks you have a new game on the way that's right up my alley, but I missed the Kickstarter and the late pledge isn't working? Please tell me I can still get in on that!

Thanks for the honest feedback - noted!

Thank you for the kind words, and you're absolutely right, I really need to invest in a space mat as well :(

@@TabletopDungeon You don't need to go that far, a simple black sheet or blanket or something would've done wonders, at least to capture some footage :D Regardless, I have been on the fence with this game (+expansion) for years, but I fear it's too random and too much english text for my group nowadays, here in Brazil, we have been enjoying wait too much Gloomhaven and Warhammer, but this game I really wish I had someone to play with, i like the randomness and chaos of it

It does have a solo mode that's pretty fun.

Eclipse is really just a space combat game. There's a little resource management, upgrading ships, and lots of dice rolling, but that's it. Once I'd play TI4, I sold my Eclipse copy because I just couldn't think of an occasion I'd want to play that instead of TI4. The only limiting factor is if you have the time to play TI4.

Jake, that's absolutely monstrous. I just feed them to the pigs.

@@TabletopDungeon -- HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Your opinion is not relevant

Ah, a man of taste :) I believe Netflix already tried a choose your own adventure thing for Black Mirror, did you try that? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror:_Bandersnatch Also, given the output quality of Sora from OpenAI that was demoed yesterday, I think a dynamically generated TV series is closer than you'd thing. Absolute incredible how far video AI has come in just a year or so. The future is utterly terrifying!

Not sure where I sourced these exact ones, but there's a bunch of downloadable 40k posters floating around, like yaktribe.games/community/tags/posters/

There is an argument that we are genetically preprogrammed to destroy ourselves and our environment like this, yes.

I haven't played other Matt Leacock games than Pandemic, but compared to that... in terms of tension and dramatic moments of losing thanks to a bad turn, yes.

Same here. While Black Plague was the first miniatures game we finished over a couple months, we really don't miss having to run from an Early spawned Abomination till someone found the needed items to kill it. In Marvel Zombies we feel everyone has a chance to kill and have fun.

Funnily enough, I don't thin kI ever got around to reviewing them. Perhaps it's time for a second edition review though.

Light doesn't mean easy, it means simplified. As is, less depth, less strategy, less dramatic tension. I would compare to a MZ campaign, but there isn't one.

@@TabletopDungeon I like how you didn't deny the fact that you did compare Marvel Zombicide core box to Zombicide 2nd edition with the campaign expansion 😅. That seems fair 😏. Also to pick a topic (light games) that doesn't have a definition it has many but I will play. You said light doesn't mean easy, it means simplified. That I can agree with you. While the rest I cannot. You said that light games have less strategy 🧐...that depends on the light game you are playing. You also said that light games have less dramatic tension again that depends on the light game you are playing. We can go on and on about what is and it's a light game and we will both be wrong and right. Now let's be fair for a second. Let's compare the Core box to the core box. What makes Zombicide 2nd edition a medium game compared to Marvel Zombicide? Now I have to assume you think Zombicide 2nd edition is a medium game because your title of the video is calling marvel Zombicide a light version to Zombicide.

@@jrod5113 To be clear, I don't _dislike_ Marvel Zombies. But it is a streamlined - or what I would call "light" - version of zombicide. The characters are fixed, and their skills are set in stone, right down to their attacks. The heroes have one attack, and one skill per level, which is often an enhanced version of their basic attack. In regular zombicide, attacks are entirely the player choice - up to two weapons, plus various other equipment. And you get a choice of orange or red skills, so you customise your character a little further. That alone makes it a simplified version compared to main core box.

@@TabletopDungeon I can see why you like Zombicide 2nd edition more than Marvel Zombicide. In the Zombicide 2nd Edition core box you are playing as a regular person(no overpowered moves but some weapons can be 😅)and you can customize it a little more to suit your play style. A more realistic zombie feel and the abominations spawns are deadly. You wouldn't want to run towards them by yourself. While in Marvel Zombicide you are playing as a powerful hero/villain. When an enemy hero/villain(abomination) does spawn we are excited for the fight and want the challenge. You feel like you are playing as a super hero or villain 💪 and no two heroes/villains are the same (core box) they play differently because of the abilities they have. So even though the core mechanics are pretty much the same from both core boxes along with using the same amount of actions (depending on the character you can do more actions) both games feel like they play differently and that's good. That being said I still don't think one version is lighter than the other. They are both Zombicide games at the core. If one is considered a light version they both are. Analogy time😅... let's say we both are buying a house and decided to pick the same floor plan/same house around 2k square feet. On your house you decide to upgrade your kitchen a little more than mine but I have decided to upgrade the restrooms a little more 😅 and both houses at the end ended up costing the same. Now If I ask you which house is better it's not even a question it's yours 💯%. My reply would be no it's mine 😅. When in reality our house is in the same category as a medium size home. They are both equally as good as the other. Just our taste are different.

​​​@@jrod5113i think he meant it is streamlined which is not a bad thing. In older zombicide the attacks are not fixed.. you have combination of weapons. Some heroes cannot even kill a brute if his weapon is weak so they trade weapons which adds to the strategy. Sometimes they trade plenty of bullets, flashlight, dynamite, etc. Noise mechanic is gone. Everyone can open doors without weapons that can open doors. Friendly fire is gone for range attacks. You can't combine items. You can also choose orange and red skills. Etc.

Yes. The doors, and the equipment management, both add more to the gameplay depth than this new traits mechanic or eating/saving randoms.

@@TabletopDungeon Well, I tried to like Marvel Zombies, got the Hunger Pledge but I absolutely hated it. I don't think any of these Zombicide games are for me. Cthulhu Death May Die does this much better IMO...

@@bperez1172 Hah, we might have quite opposite tastes, because I absolutely couldn't stand C:DMD!

@@TabletopDungeon Hmmm... I'm willing to give it another try, maybe it's the simplified Marvel Zombicide. I could pick up white death when it comes out...

I just started learning about the game and I love everything I've discovered, but now I have to live with my group never being able to play it...

That's why this is only suited for kids below 12

Yeah I wish I could place once a month, but in reality, it is more like once or twice a year.