Dave and Brad! You rock!!! Keep up the good work to the Paul Brothers. Thank you for serving.

Have you ever talked to a multi-generational farmer about why they do things on certain days? 1:22:10 They paid a lot of attention to the moon and stars back then for handling animals and growing crops. Does anyone know if that's more of a solar or a lunar calendar thing?

There’s Andrea, just killin it again and again. Thank you, thank you!

It’s sad so many people in these comments blindly believing this woman. Unlike Stoddard, Bushman is an actual historian who at least cares enough about historical accuracy to discuss Smith’s treasure-digging. Joseph Smith’s own history, and his Mother’s and Wife’s, and Joseph Knight Sr all corroborate the fact that Smith used his seer stone to hunt treasure. That is fact, whether Stoddard’s stringent orthodoxy can handle it or not.

We need the other sheep scriptures already. Perhaps a Book of Genji or something from Japan. Also, let's make a Book of Maxwell. That should be study every 5th year. A whole year on Neal A. Maxwell.

The whole Hebrew calendar is ASTOUNDING and is woven throughout the Book of Mormon. Each month has significance.

Daves hardly masked disdain for the academics is part hilarious part awkward

Well Bruce Mcconkie. Was a hard liner. He came from Ancestors of Monticello, Utah. I can vouge that Redd family is very bullish, Not a fan at all as I have family relations connection with them and that town. Not a fan of any concerning those families and that includes my own. I know their personalities.

This is a great cast. They balance each other out super well.

37:38 I've also read that the pilgrims learned more of Sukkot before coming to America, and Thanksgiving, while later than Sukkot, was their emulation of the feast 🤔

29:24 we quit following all the holidays with pagan roots/entanglement. When did God tell His people to stop observing His Holy Days? And if we believe in a major apostasy, why do we observe holidays invented during the apostasy? Why not keep the holidays of the early church? There's evidence that the gentile converts observed the feats. There's lot to ponder when you start examining things.

YA Dave! get um, get um!

I’ve always viewed scripture in the modern sense as anything that the church puts its logo on.

The D&C is just more of made up crap by Joseph Smith!

Joseph smith was a lier and a con man. Made up the Book of Mormon for financial gain. I pray the Mormons see the light and become born again and come out of the deception.

Dave is wearing that plaid jacket just for the comments 😉

Interesting episode but this is the first time I've watched one of your episodes & thought, yeah this is a 45 minute worthy episode - a bit too much talking in circles going nowhere here and there. Not my favorite episode to be honest, but still a few good points.

This guy would beat good professor. Very easy to listen to.

The other piece on the cannon/scripture comment is keys. The President, using his keys, would have final say on all revelations that could be added to the Cannon. We also know that the 12 and first presidency don't move forward until unanimously united. That way a great sacrament meeting talk would be properly vetted by authority and keys, thereby the Lord is a God of order.

Imagine if Joseph survived to be in his 80's tho. It's entirely realistic in that timeline that he may have ushered in New Jerusalem by then, and with New Jerusalem, Christ's presence on Earth.

Sounds fantastic and very interesting. Thank you for the discussion today.

King Follet needs to be canonized

I think anyone can receive scripture for their own stewardship, but not for that of others and, much less, for the Church at large.

Before I spend $65 on this set, please tell me what you shared about D&C 132 and the missing 1835 original section 101 (1844 edition sec. 109). Thank you 🙏

D&C 107:21-28. Is this how the Church "Cannon" is decided?

PLAGIARISM IN THE BOOK OF MORMON. According to a careful survey of the Book of Mormon, it contains at least 25,000 words from the King James Bible. In fact, verbatim quotations, some of considerable length, have caused the Mormons no end of embarrassment over the years. The comparison of Moroni chapter 10 with I Corinthians 12:1-11, 2 Nephi 14 with Isaiah 4, and 2 Nephi 12 with Isaiah 2 reveals that Joseph Smith made free use of his Bible to supplement the alleged revelation of the golden plates. The Book of Mosiah, chapter 14 in the Book of Mormon, is a reproduction of the fifty-third chapter of Isaiah the prophet; and 3 Nephi 13:1-18 copies Matthew 6:1-23. The Mormons naively suggest that when Christ allegedly appeared on the American continent after His Resurrection and preached to the Nephites he quite naturally used the same language as recorded in the Bible. They also maintain that when Nephi came to America he brought copies of the Hebrew Scriptures, which account for quotations from the Old Testament. The only difficulty with these excuses is that the miraculous plates upon which they were all inscribed, somehow or another, under translation, came out in King James English without variation approximately a thousand years before this 1611 version was written. Such reasoning on the part of the Mormons strains at the limits of credulity and only they are willing to believe it. There are other instances of plagiarism from the King James Bible including paraphrases of certain verses. One of these verses (I John 5:7) is reproduced in 3 Nephi 11:27, 36. The only difficulty with the paraphrase here is that the text is considered by scholars to be an interpolation missing from all major manuscripts of the New Testament but present in the King James Bible from which Smith paraphrased it not knowing the difference. Another example of this type of error is found in 3 Nephi 11:33-34, and is almost a direct quotation from Mark 16:16, a passage regarded by many New Testament Greek scholars as an addition to that gospel by an overzealous scribe. But Joseph Smith was not aware of this either, so he even copied in translational errors, another proof that neither he nor the alleged golden plates were inspired of God. Two further instances of plagiarism from the King James Bible which have backfired on the Mormons are worth noting. In the third chapter of the Book of Acts, Peter's classic sermon at Pentecost paraphrases DEUTERONOMY 18:15-19. While in the process of writing 3 Nephi, Joseph Smith puts Peter's paraphrase in the mouth of Christ when the Savior was allegedly preaching to the Nephites. The prophet overlooked the fact that at the time that Christ was allegedly preaching His sermon, the sermon itself had not yet been preached by Peter. In addition to this, 3 Nephi makes Christ out to be a liar, when in verse 23 of chapter 20 Christ attributes Peter's words to Moses as a direct quotation when, as we have pointed out, Peter paraphrased the quotation from Moses; and the wording is quite different. But Joseph did not check far enough, hence this glaring error. Secondly, the Book of Mormon follows the error of the King James translation which renders Isaiah 4:5: "For upon all the glory shall be a defense" (See 2 Nephi 14:5). Modern translations of Isaiah point out that it should read "For over all the glory there will be a conopy," not a defense. The Hebrew word, "chuppah," does not mean defense but a protective curtain or canopy. Smith, of course, did not know this nor did the King James translators from whose work he copied. There are quite a number of other places where such errors appear, including Smith's insistence in Abraham 1:20 that "Pharaoh signifies king by royal blood," when in reality the dictionary defines the meaning of the term Pharaoh as "a great house or palace." The Revised Standard Version of the Bible renders Isaiah 5:25: "And their corpses as refuse in the midst of the streets," correctly rendering the Hebrew "suchah" as refuse, not as "torn." The King James Bible renders the passage: "And their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets." The Book of Mormon (2 Nephi 15:25) repeats the King James' text word for word, including the error of mistranslating "suchah," removing any claim that the Book of Mormon is to be taken seriously as reliable material.

CORRECTIONS, CONTRADICTIONS AND ERRORS FOUND IN THE BOOK OF MORMON. There is a great wealth of information concerning the material contained in the Book of Mormon and the various plagiarism, anachronism, false prophecies and othe unfortunate practices connected with it. At best then we can give but a condensation of that which has been thoroughly documented. Since the publication of the Book of Mormon instead 1830, the first edition has undergone extensive "correction" in order to present it in its present form. Some of these "corrections" should be noted. 1. In the Book of Mosiah, chapter 21, verse 28, it is declared that "King Mosiah had a gift from God"; but there orginal edition of the the Book, thevname of the king was Benjamin--an oversight which thoughtful Mormon scribes corrected. This is, of course, no typographical error as there is little resemblance between the names Benjamin and Mosiah; so it appears that either God made a mistake when He inspired the record or Joseph made a mistake when he translated it. But the Mormons will admit to neither, so they are stuck, so to speak, with this contradiction. 2. 1 Nephi 19:16-20:1, when compared with the edition of 1830, reveals more than fifty changes in the "inspired Book of Mormon," words having been dropped, spelling corrected, and words and phraseology added and turned about. This is a strange way to treat an inspired revelation from God! 3. In the Book of Alma 28: 14-29: 1-11, more than thirty changes may be counted from the original edition, and on page 303 of the original edition the statement, "Yea, decree unto them that decrees which is unalterable," has been expunged. (See Alma 29:4) 4. On page 25 of the edition of 1830, the Book of Mormon declears: "And the angel said unto me, Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the eternal Father." Yet in 1 Nephi 11:21, the later editions of the book read: "And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea even the Son of the eternal Father." 5. The Roman Catholic church should be delighted with page 25 of the original edition of the Book of Mormon which confirms one of their dogmas, namely, that Mary is the mother of God. "Behold, the virgin which which thou sees, is the mother of God." Noting this unfortunate lapse into Romanistic theology, considerate Mormon editors have changed 1 Nephi 11:18 so it reads: "Behold, the virgin whom thou sees, is the mother of the son of God." From the foregoing which are only a handful of examples of nearly 4,000 word changes to be found in the Book of Mormon. The reader can see that it is no sense to accept as as the Word of God. The Scripture says: "The word of the Lord endureth forever." (I Peter 1:25); and our Savior declared: "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy Word is truth" (John 17:17). The record of the Scripture rings true. The Book of Mormon, on the other hand, is patently false in far too many places to be considered coincidence.

Thank you for discussing how importance of church history is. Most people look st the past and dont see the humanity of the people who lived back then. They hinestly treat them as a stick figure without emotion or experience. My great great great grandparents personally knew Joseph Smith. My 3rd great grandfather is buried in Wellsville, Utah a few miles from Logan. My 3rd great grandmother is buried somewhere near Nauvoo. They went through so much as members. I love and honor them.

Loved this episode!

Thank you! I will note that I am sad the Church has editorialized the RS Minute book items.

I find these intellectual arguements of personal word interpretations to be completely useless to the spiritual perspective needed for most people to understand Joseph and his revelations. Could you please keep the people, church member, and investigator as your priority.....it feels like too much ego is involved.

So what does that mean about D&C 132? It contradicts the canon that existed at its time, especially the Book of Mormon and the 1835 and 1844 editions of the D&C.

Thanks for showing this guys! Way to find this volume. Question. Did this particular Bible include the apocrypha? I couldn’t tell as you went through it quickly. The Bible that Joseph Smith used in the translation of the Bible did, include it and most Bibles back then did. But after the 1830s, it was very uncommon for American Bibles to print the Apocrypha because simply publishers thought it was excess pages and they could cut costs.

My heads exploding in many different directions. All good and intriguing. I love this gospel! 😁

I could lusten to these guys all day long. Their ability to articulate ANY gospel content is a skill I can only dream of. Theyve led me down gospel doctrine and church history paths I would not have found in my own. Very faith affirming and testimony building!

The Family Proclamation is a proclamation. Are any other proclamations in the scriptures?

They need to canonize the Proclamation on the Family. Make it an actual section. I've heard the Progressive member argument and they believe it.

1:12:41 Job as liturgy!!! @Dave I just had that thought while reading Job this week. 😊

Mormon Doctrine was supposed to be The Encyclopedia of Mormonism but he dropped his co-author without any real acknowledgement. His co-author went ahead and published the Encyclopedia with little fanfare since he wasn't in leadership. McConkie published Mormon Doctrine with many things that were his own thoughts or things that were not agreed upon by the church. The original edition was pulled and destroyed because there were too many things that church leadership did not agree with. McConkie was a leader but not in the Quorum. The Prophet was concerned enough that he asked several brethren to read it and find out what is going on. There were several revisions after that because of McConkie doctrine. Looking at it from the outside, to me, it looks like McConkie had to show he knew more than others. I mean, his father in law, Joseph Fielding Smith, was considered the best at understanding church doctrine. He wrote some great books. One set I read was Answers to Gospel Questions before I went on my mission. I think he was trying to show he knew more than his father in law. Talmadge wrote the defining Jesus The Christ which was a standard book that all missionaries had when I went out. McConkie wrote the three volume set on Christ. I appreciate his insight but I also feel he had some sort of complex,maybe his patriarchal blessing said something about leading the church or something.

Oh Brother. 😆

This should come as no shock if the Book of Mormon is true. This would prove that Nephi and his family were descendants of the Jews.

There are six women named in the Book of Mormon. Sariah (1 Nep 2:5), Eve (1 Nep 5:11), Sarah (2 Nep 8:2), Mary (Mos 3:8), Abish (Alma 19:16), and Isabel (Alma 39:3). Thank you for another informative discussion. 😊❤️🙏🇦🇺

12:46 this is in the same 1989 edition in the section heading of section 89

5:56 my editions is 1989

I don’t think cloning is possible unless you are calling IVF, where you make identical people, cloning.

39:00 - what if it’s if someone sees God with the explicit purpose of testifying of the Son and that individual will end up dying for that testimony?

Change is scary? Im glad for Change...im glad theres either More or Less people at Church by Year. Im glad to test, retest, Philosify, Ponder, etc. "Science is the Study not the Answer" It means that every week we are all "New to the Church" and that so Cool.

Totally off topic, but seeing you guys in uniforms: Have you already gotten your "new" garments? I just sent in some clothing in a few weeks ago and it is being shipped back atm.

Should Canonize Jesus the Christ

Love all the great LDS creative content on YT. What a great blessing! I wish you all the necessary success to keep your channel thriving and humble!