Q-5A chops 104 like its a flying bricks.

Exactly what I have been saying!!!!!!!!!!

always felt like I was missing something in the top tier zero. It always felt like there was no real way to deal with the boom and zoomers. I turned to just taking my chances with head ons since I knew I couldn't keep up energy wise. Now I see why.

i personally boycotted these games, i hope others do the same

Great video and story. I agree with most of your points. But this is true in so many aspects of life. Some people waste their money on fast food, some on video games, some on subscriptions. It’s boredom and materialism. What you spend the majority of your time on should have benefits that outweigh the cost. Let those benefits produce extra time and money for you to spend on WT or whatever it is you do as a hobby. Whoever thought spending $60 for a game back in the day was actually a bargain 😅. Everything you needed was included with no subscriptions or upsells.

Zeroes just stomping anything rn

I played for the first 6 years the game was out and never spent a dime on it. Unlocked almost every jet at that time back in 2018. Later made a second account and finally bought a pack for $20. I felt it had been long enough and i could pay my dues to keep the hamster wheel spinning.

this is why i stopped playing war thunder. developers don't care about their players, they just count money

Oh I also would like to note about Sad Reality, and from what I remember years ago I would see TONS of bomber mains, people would fly sim just to bomb, a lot of my old friends would bring bombers way more often than fighters or strikers or interceptors, and many many premiums went ignored. NOW Gaijin has all of these premiums they want people to buy so they fucked bombers in the ass to make people abandon them and have to grind, pay, and plea to get to the other planes, especially with the constant economy changes due to people having farmed so much. Gaijin is incredibly scummy and have been doing shady shit in game. (Like an algorithm that watches what you play and if you keep playing the same shit too much it puts you on maps that have the WORST statistics for the vehicles you're playing. You have to nation and BR hop constantly

Bombers are trash. Most strike craft are kind of trash. A lot of fighters are being made trash... etc. I don't even know what's the point of playing anymore lol

The Wyvern is one of the most braindead premiums I've ever seen, I hate fighting it. It made props unfun. addendum One thing I noticed with regards to like "zombie planes" one of my friends told me that the F3H-2 Demon is a terrible plane, and don't get me wrong it's flight characteristics aren't always the greatest, poor energy retention and pretty meh turn rate, not the worst but not the best, and you get to fight starfighters because US gets put against US a lot. However, my experience is that the plane is actually pretty good if you use it as a cannon fighter and don't rely on your missiles. so I feel like some planes just get put at whatever BR gaijin deems good enough, the Demon probably overperformed because of its radar missiles even though it has no business being at 9.3 with AIM-9Bs and AIM-7Cs fighting the Starfighter and potentially being uptiered to fight with 10.3s or 10.0s. Hell, even the difference in power between 9.7 and 9.3 aircraft is pretty wide.

I agree in 110% FM models are dumping down constantly from Beta...

The zero is my comfort aircraft. Whenever I get tired and need to chill out, I play a podcast and queue a game with a turnfighter.

This is too true, Me myself who mains Ground Realistic Battles, Having 120 or so days playing just a tank (not counting Tank destroyer, Spaa etc) So i could actually speak for ground, having every tank in the tech tree bar a few of the new ones (Atleast 100 battles in many) the fact so many players dont understand about tactics or knowing when to Capture a point or taking ground (Alot of people rush in and die straight away getting the early cap to die...) , all you see is new players being thrown into 10x10 square maps (which is another entire problem) in modern premiums like leopard 2a4 or even higher now at 11.3... it just ruins the fun for other players because now you are the only person left on the team due to everyone one spawning, but thats not their fault its lack of knowledge and understanding the actual game, Because Line-ups win the game, now that planes can hit you from orbit SPAA or even people grinding Air to counter, (its all about countering the enemy) But people just lack this level of gameplay or the patience.

Warthunder is the league of legends of autistic people

Makes me miss the good old days back when the F2 Sabre and the MiG 17 along with the CL 13 and Hunter were the top dogs in the yard. It was all skill. You had to put together all of your experience from prop fighters to master those jets.

The only kills against Hurricanes bu ki 43 and zero's in Burma was ground straffing. The Hurricane pilots said that the planes were roughly equal but the zero could not follow in any dive as multiple Hurricane pilots said that if the zero tried to follow their wings world fold over the canopy forming a coffin for the pilot. There are combat reports of Hurrricane v spitfire v 109. The Hurricane could reverse a 109 in 4 turns and spitfire in not much more . Hurricane was superb. Throughout a turn the Hurri pilot always had view of the target while the spitfire would not this was due the camber of the Hurricane from cockpit to nose.

jokes on you i was already stupid before playing war thunder

The fact that the hunter and other jets at that BR have to fight jets with missiles and inasanity, makes them feel impossible to use

competitively bad player here, really didnt think the zero was THAT good so this video just confuses me, find myself getting out turned and one shot at all times

i love that the tech trees i play all get there be raised. Japan AIr, and french ground. I hate that they change be by the best players.

GUYS I SHOT DOWN AN F2G-1(WITH THE US NAVY SKIN)

I play Japan and i feel like a menace watching this video🥲

Frankly, in my experience, it really doesn't feel like Gaijin wants bombers to be a meaningful part of the game; they want them to be flashy, impressive, and function as a power-up to drop massive bombs in Ground. I have very distinct memories of my PBJ-1H (technically an attacker, but I digress) starting to get felled more and more by drooling lobotomy patients that think the correct way to kill a bomber is by sitting directly on their tail-and, while I will concede to not being a great shot, the frailty of my damage model started rewarding them. Again, a certain portion of that is my shooting, but a bomber player should not have to be good to take down someone who wants to follow right behind their tail, right where all the guns are. In my experience, far too many of these engagements end, at best, in a mutual kill unless the bomber has some serious gunpower or gets lucky with a pilot snipe, since the fighter player will often be able to inflict lethal damage before they're shot-down. While I don't want bombers to become the invincible skytanks they used to be, I also don't want them to be free kills for even the lowest-common-denominator of the playerbase. But, frankly, that's how Gaijin seems to treat anything that's not a fighter or a fighter-bomber: fodder in Air RB, and a power-up for Ground players.

It is worth noting that, compared to some other turnfighters (the Ki-43-III, for instance), the Zero is especially painful due to its wing-mounted cannons and relatively lazy ballistics... meaning that when you do have to pull for a head-on, you're playing with the deck stacked against you pretty badly.

as somebody who plays the P-51 C-10 and is severely disabled, i hate the zero.

01:15 RA3 nostalgia 😭

My solution for bombers is when you spawn in and you get a group of 3 AI that follow you and drop bombs at the same time as you thier kills and damage count as yours Air RB only tho maybe with an option to make 1 a AI fighter that's at br/tier

mig15 ish wasnt moved down because theyre incompetent, it was moved down because people can pay money for it.

Personally I love ww1 and ww2 planes, they are so much fun. So basically I'm fine with playing arcade and just have fun, lucky me I guess

I'll be honest. We need 3 base maps back, and re add the airfield, because now, its quite literally easy af to kill a bomber, theyre not worth using. And AI gunners now dont fire until point blank, most fighters fire at about a mile out (1.6km?)

always prefered the J2M line in japan never was fond of the low speed of the zero

Many years ago when i bought the Wyvern, it was 5.0. now it's 4.0, it's my best investment

another feature that war thunder needs is to disable the 'want to get ranked with post war enemies', especially in tank battles

I remember playing a bomber and i got 1 tapped so many times i just stopped playing at that point, i couldn't even get across the map

The issue I have with bombers is that I've upgraded my gun crew. Ans know they don't even respond to enemy aircraft. About the time you got hit, it was too late. I couldn't defend yourself. I miss it when bombs could actually do damage, and i didn't fly back to base and rearm.

I never remember bombers being that strong, I do remember that planes never even bothered with bombers and still only a couple do. But now it only takes 1 fighter to take out a couple bombers.

the difference is when you ascend in the zero and are able to defeat even skilled p-51 pilots

also top tier is very VERY skilled based matchmaking. you can´t just "bomb" your way to uptier and get "easy" kills with missiles... no.. that´s not how it works. As an experienced player, I would say it takes even more skill in high tiers than it does in low br, because of the missiles and radars and especially because of Gaijin that is just too lazy to make better high tier experience and just shove 12 players vs 12 players 60 km away from each other with missiles and radars way beyond the range of that map. wallet warriors are suffering hard in high tiers because they don´t know how to dogfight AND how to use missiles properly. (most of them are kids that are used to griefing in GTA Online lobbies with Op Mk2 anyways)

tbh. majority of war thunder players that play low air rb have less than 80 iq. so it still dominates

Other games are wrong too. You should never balance according to the best players either. Its how you end up with boring "E-sports Ready" sweaty tryhard games. There is a nice middle ground to balancing.

Dude, Gaijin used to add other objectives to their maps before. I remember the AI swarms on Carpathians, or the landing ships on Jungle spawning AI convoys. Hell, I miss the Team Death Match event they ran like 8 years ago, where they gave you infinite respawns and your only objective was "reach 100 kills" with your team!

I really want a [High Altitude Encounters] I am Unapproachable so I can at least have a chance every once in a while. I am bomber main.

4:00 But that's what makes the zero so much fun. Fighting a skilled player while they have the altitude advantage is a test of skill for both of us. It feels like a real dogfight. It forces you to learn how to snipe. Also, when in a head on with a zero, remember, that's what I want you to do. Again, I've been forced to learn how to snipe. I'll shoot small bursts around 1km then I set up for my reversal. When diving a zero be very careful. You're moving really fast in a dive and you can't turn as well. That's what I want, the greater the dive, the better. I can easily turn to make you overshoot make you loose speed or spring my reversal. What ever you do, don't lower your throttle. Yes, you can slow down and try to get a shot on me. However, the less speed you have, more likely you have to turn fight me. The only REAL way to kill a zero is a 2+ Vs 1. Don't underestimate a zero. It's still dangerous to fight a compitant zero in a 2 vs 1. It's also really fun to fight these 2+ vs 1. It feels like being a samurai from those black and white fims. There are a dozen of enemies surrounding you, hand on your sheath. The silence, the tension. An enemy charges! Slash! He's down. A moment of silence. Suddenly they they all charge. Slash! Another goes down. From behind! Slash, slash! Two more. You doge, slash! You bob a weave. Slash! A lucky hit. You feel the blood trickle down your leg, you can't move as well. That doesn't matter. It's all or nothing! Banzai! Slash! Another goes down. Slash, a hit on you. Slash, slash, slash, slash! Suddenly, the enemy backs off. You can't move. But you're still standing. A whistle. Hundreds of archers appear from the roof tops bows drawn. You ready yourself. Then it happens, you swing your sword has hundreds of arrows fly to you. You feel them peirce your body. You still stand. The enemy marches closer to you again. You ready yourself, but somethings wrong. You can't fell your arm. Your legs suddenly give out. Fighting them, you slowly slump to the ground. No. Not yet. The enemy lowers their weapons. It's hard to breathe. You can't seem to keep your eyes open. You stain your eye lids open but the darkness surrounds you. Slowly and quietly, everything goes black. You die a warriors death. You took down six players while wounding a few more. ANYWAY. When I'm not flying the zero, I'm using the 51, 109s, and yaks. If you don't climb, you lose. If your team doesn't climb, you lose. Most of the games I lost was when my team didn't climb. I'm all alone in a 109 at 4000m against, 3 p-38s, a xp-50x, and 2 51s, while my whole team decided it was a good idea to rush a random a-20 flying at 500m. All you could hear was. "Mine! Mine! Mine! Miiiine!" The zeros weren't there to take them out. The enemy team just has a fun day BnZ. The zero doesn't really break the game. It's players not knowing how to fly or fight properly. They don't know how to fight a zero. Why its a really bad idea to rush ground attackers at the beginning of a match. How to defend against a BnZ attack. Why you can't just fly straight up and expect to shoot down a 109 who has both alt and speed. Like my guy, I HAVE ALT. You're going to stall and I'm going to have a free kill. We just need to teach these guys on what to/ not to do.

My great grandfather was a Lancaster turret gunner and when I found war thunder I was exited to play bombers and I’m disappointed that there so shit 💀

Well fix it and the 50 calls acting li’ cannons while your at it

DCS, thought imperfect, has the best modeling of AG warfare. The ability to fight various SAM and AAA threats, and wisely must avoid enemy CAP is a great experience. Because of the detailed modeling, it takes a lot of systems and avionics knowledge to hit targets in various conditions. If you think video game twitch skills will pull through, you’re mistaken.

Even though I am at a clear disadvantage against my enemies (and almost all of them are fighters, interceptors and attack planes) I will not go down without a fight once I eliminate 3 P-51 Mustangs with my B-25-J20 Mitchell while destroying Although their Aerodrome is difficult, I also see it as a challenge, and if they have to fix the range of the gunners and their precision (they are very viscous XD) I admit that it is frustrating to see how you, as a bomber, the enemy planes literally have you in their sights and They attack you incessantly

The problem is not with the plane. The problem is on the players. They usually DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE BUT TRYING TO 1 CIRCLE EVERYTHING IN ANYTHING, even in a bomber! That's why 1 circle fighters are so good in war thunder. In small or close tournaments, one circle fighter is just as good as others because people in those tournaments don't just mindlessly one circle everything in anything

Awesome video, thanks for your perspective!