You’re welcome. I agree that many Garmin users want the rock steady features and operating system. Did you/are you affected by this Garmin crash issue today? I’ve been OK thankfully.

@@Runningonthemind Tried my epix pro gen2. Works fine. Location: North America. I also use other navigation/flight instruments from Garmin. Reliability>>>style for software.

@@keesstream I guess it depends on your used case for it. If you live somewhere sunny and you use it a lot for cycling for example, the MIP display is probably better. If you do like me a lot of running in darker conditions then it maybe that the AMOLED is better for you. If you don’t dive and you aren’t too concerned with voice assistant you could go with the Epix gen 2 which is lovely but has the slightly older operating system compared to the Fenix 8

@@agunther08 you’re very welcome 👍

@@Alex-zv2vp personally I think the pro 2 would do a better job of cutting out the wind noise but keeping you aware of the surroundings. 👍

@@Runningonthemind👍

@@thewatchtowerstudy4511 thank you my friend. You’ll love them I’m sure. I did a 15 mile run with my son at the weekend and we both wore them (he has the plumb colour) and they performed like a dream. Another thing I didn’t mention is that they are easy to clean too. Here in the south of England it’s been wet and wild and the shoes got pretty muddy but cleaned up very easy afterwards.

At full volume you’d be able to hear it, not loud but it would be noticeable. It 50-75% volume I don’t think anybody would notice much unless they were very close to you 👍

Thanks for the reply.

@ welcome mate, no problem at all 👍

Yes, it’s a choice you can make in the settings for both. Always in is slightly dimmer but when you raise your wrist it gets brighter again. 👍

@@Stockfish1511 that’s fair, the T7 pro is a nice looking watch and an excellent bit of kit. Do you have the solar charge MIP or the Amoled version?

@@Runningonthemind I have T7 pro solar with mips display. I actually bought epix first. Then i saw tactix on some guys wrist and i was amazed how good it looked. So i decided to get one too. First was thinking to get amoled, but already had amoled on epix so decided to try out the mips. I dont put any difference between the two screens because i think there is no big difference between the two because those garmin watches are not really for stuff that requires much of amoled other than maps maybe. Like 99 percent of time you are just using the watch for data generation specially when you live active lifestyle like me. I find reading maps easier on amoled. Other than that no big difference really. One looks shinier, the other one looks more like an analog watch under sunlight but has much longer battery which can be handy.

@@Stockfish1511 I agree dude. I actually really like the MIP display and they kick butt in the sunlight for sure. The reason for Amoled for me is that I run a lot in the dark and the Amoled is just slightly easier for my used case in the dark.

Hey Mike. I’ve done a few videos since on this one, the camera is way better now. I will probably do one more for the low light in the next few weeks but don’t want to do too many in the same topic, but one more for sure. 👍

@@Plasterman2025 that’s strange, mine has been fine connecting to WiFi with 5ghz I’m sure. I will double check though.

@@markgriffiths409 yes sir, absolutely 👍

@@LeeStuartFielding thanks so much Lee. I’m trying to create a channel that people can trust so being transparent and honest is an important part of that. I’ve used these now almost every single day for the last 6 months and they have been brilliant. Excellent balance between awareness and clarity of the music/audiobook. I think you’ll like them 👍. Thanks for you subscription, I appreciate it a lot 🫶🏻

Thumbs up. Actually I did go out and bought a set (based on your video). I was concerned from lots of video reviews that the sound would be less than expected. As said, until now I used in ear JBL ear buds. Well my first run was this evening with the Shokz.... ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Will never go back to in ear buds. I felt so good - could hear my own steps, breathing rhythm, and of course, the surroundings. Well worth the money from my personal point of view. Thank YOU so much for tipping the purchase scale. I'll never regret it.

@ thank you so much my friend, I’m delighted that you are so pleased with them. As I said in the video, people need to understand what to expect and once you do, in my opinion it’s hard not to be impressed with them. I hope you get many great runs in and safely enjoy them like I do 💪

@@macoyupadoodle I think there will be a few more coming soon. They are like rockets, you’ll love them

@Runningonthemind i have the v2 with the anniversary colorway (half black half white each shoe). I like the nitro foam

@@macoyupadoodle they’ve changed the foam a little for the V3, and added stack height too. They feel like Vaporfly now, super responsive and really fast transition through the rocker. If you liked v2, you’ll love v3 👍

@@EarlStanley-yb7rq thank you sir, appreciate you taking the time 👍

That’s a great point and thank you for commenting. I will pin your post so that people can see it. Thanks so much my friend 🫶🏻

@@JerryMacHomes thanks my friend, I appreciate it. Yes you can set up the watch to use the data from the HR strap over the sensors. So real time on the watch you’ll see your HR that is coming from the strap and not the watch. The Garmin HRM pro plus strap is superb 👌🏼

Wow!!!! What a fast excellent response!!!! I’ll deff subscribe. Try to add some affiliate links in the future. Like to repay you for your considerate help. 😊

@ you’re welcome Jerry. The way I see it is if people take the time and effort to write a message then the least I can do is answer to the best of my ability. It’s kind of you to say that about the affiliate links.. maybe one day but for now, helping people and having kind people like yourself subscribe and appreciate what I do is enough for me 🫶🏻

@@RunningonthemindBEAUTIFUL ❤

@@matrhein spot on. They are both amazing but when one is a lot cheaper than the other for virtually the same build and functionality it’s hard to see past the Epix. I love both of them but there is only one real winner when it comes to value for money and it’s not the Fenix 👍

Thanks so much, that means a lot to me mate. Have a great weekend 💪

That makes a lot of sense. I agree, Garmin definitely need to work out how to get wireless charging sorted out and get rid of that annoying charger they have 👍

Wise choice mate, you are getting almost everything asides from the microphone and diving capabilities which of you don’t need them makes the Epix pro gen 2 and the Fenix 8 basically the same. You’ll love it mate 👍

@@Runningonthemind Yeh picked it up for £499 for the 51mm i thought that was a steal my wife didn't haha

@ 😂😂 some things the wife doesn’t need to know 😂😂 I bet still less than they spend on shoes and make up 😂😂

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it. This type of review is where I try to add real consumer value is I can. Have a great weekend 👍

@@andrewtrimnell3007 thanks man. I had the Fenix 7x solar 51mm for a while before I gave it to my eldest son who runs with me. It’s from a functionality perspective pretty much the same as the Epix gen 2 but with the MIP display and solar charging. The 7x is still a brilliant watch for sure.

The 6x is a great watch too. There are some health features which I think never made it to the 6x that are in the 7 and the Epix. The 6x also doesn’t have the latest sensors for HR etc, but it’s still good. The 7x and Epix/fenix 8 have dual band gps whereas the 6x only has single. I found in the past with the 6x that if I was tracking a walk for example and I stopped for a while without pausing the watch, the gps tracking would go a little crazy, that doesn’t happen with the dual band selected on the newer ones 👍

@Runningonthemind so do you think I should upgrade to the fenix 8 or the epix pro

@@MrJosh93fc if you want voice assistant and to be able to phone people from your watch, and scuba dive then go for the Fenix. If you don’t care about those things, go for the Epix pro gen 2 and save a few hundred dollars for practically the same watch 👍

Thank you for the kind feedback. Honest and balanced reviews are what I try to do on my channel - £1000 or $1000 is a lot of money and people sometimes make the wrong choice because of sponsored reviews on youtube. I'm here to help people with real world consumer feedback without pressure to say what the manufacturer wants me to say :-). Personally I think that the Epix pro will be good for many years to come so I don't think there is a rush to change as it's already in a select few of the very best sports smart watches you can buy (IMO).

@@craigthorp4913 thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts Craig. The Epix gen 2 pro 51mm has you in safe hands man, it’s an amazing bit of kit 👍

@Runningonthemind yes and thank you. I normally would wear the 47mm size but bought the 51mm and have got used to that size and enjoy the larger screen. I haven't noticed the weight difference too much.

@@craigthorp4913 only issue I ever had was the occasional crazy HR reading for about 10-20 seconds where it would go up to about 110+ when I was actually down at 65-70 relaxing. It didn’t happen often but was likely due to the alignment being slightly out on the bigger watch (fit error). My wrist is about 20cm so 51mm is still quite big in my arm. I will still keep mine despite having the Fenix.

@@Runningonthemind my wrist is slightly between 18 and 18.5cm. So i thought the 51mm maybe too big but I have got used to it. I also have the Epix Gen 2 but in 47mm and that is comfortable for my wrist size. This is purely cosmetic but I like and much prefer the larger band size (26mm) of the 51mm than the (22mm) for the 47mm. And what I really like is the 31 day battery life of the 51mm. My screen is activated with me moving my wrist so I'm presuming that accentuates the battery life.

Thanks 🙏

Excellent question - I’ve not tested that yet but there’s no reason why it shouldn’t. I will give it a go tomorrow and come back and let you know unless somebody answers before 👍

I’m in the UK too and I can say that on my fenix 8 I still can’t get the ECG either, so I think it’s all garmins in the UK we aren’t able to access that yet

@@ChaseNicholasKZbin they use the same battery so it’s very similar. I turn off always on, use raise wrist to turn on and have the screen set to 8 seconds. I put it in night mode at 9pm until 5am. On a full charge the Fenix is saying 29 days and the Epix is saying 31 days.

@@Runningonthemind I had the fenix 8 solar and got about 11-13 days with a 24 day prediction (wifi/bluetooth on). What have you averaged in the real world with your settings? Thanks for the quick response btw

@ no worries at all. It’s hard to say as the longest time I’ve been between charges is only about 6-7 days. I generally stick it on charge while I shower which keeps it topped up. I took the Epix (which seems to be almost the same performance) to Mallorca in the summer for 10 days, ran almost every day for between 30-60 minutes and came home with still 8 days of battery.

@ thanks! That’s probably the best method to just throw it on the charger for 10-15 while showering. Appreciate your insight!

@ always welcome, thanks my friend 👍

@@Iceman0505 now thats a great deal, enjoy mate 💪

@@Runningontheminddefinitely. good comparison by the way new sub 👍🏻

@@Iceman0505thank you dude, appreciate it a lot 💪

You'd love it if you buy it for sure. My wrist size is 20cm, and the 51mm is even pretty big on my wrist. I would say you'd be better going for the 47mm, which doesn't have such a long battery life, but is still like 2 weeks between charges.

@@markswindale243 thanks Mark. Same as you, I’m not unhappy as the fenix 8 is very impressive but it is hard to justify I think for most people. Both amazing bits of kit though 👍

@@Runningonthemind imo, if the Fenix 8 is hard to justify for most, then the Epix should be too... If the extra ~$300 for the 8 is going to break your bank, then you shouldn't be looking at buying either lol. Unless you can find a crazy discount on the Epix... Although, I agree it's not worth upgrading if you already have the Epix. But if this is your first high-end Garmin watch purchase, choose whichever you like best. Both are stupidly expensive.

@@MrBigken34 thank you, appreciate you saying so 👍

I actually found that after a day or two it stopped that and it seems (touch wood) that the occasional delay or sluggishness has gone. Hopefully that continues 🤞🏼

​@@Runningonthemind For me it didn't... Only time it seemed fluid was straight after an update, but the next day, the little stutters and slugginess came back

I have a tactix 7 amoled I'm looking to get the Fenix 8. Do you think it's a downgrade or more of a upgrade

@ the tactix 7 Amoled is very much like the Epix pro gen 2 but with different training and sports available. You have the military type features whereas the Epix gen 2 and the Fenix 8 have the majority of the same features but not the military ones. I’d say that the differences between the tactix 7 and the Fenix 8 are similar to the differences (physically) between the Epix and the Fenix 8… essentially you’ll get different functionality built into the Fenix for more day to day activities rather than military ones in the same case, same battery, same materials (mostly). Not an upgrade or downgrade, but different used case and you’ll get the newer operating system with the Fenix and the speaker and mic which depends on if that’s useful to you 👍

@ thank you

hard to disagree with that, Simon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts mate

@@AjaySingh-228 they are both fantastic watches, Epix is still the best value for money I think but the Fenix 8 is an amazing watch for sure

@@Runningonthemind oh nice sir..Have a nice day

@ you too my man, hope the week is going well for you mate 💪

@ ya i hope soo thanks sir

@@isthi000ify most appreciated my friend, appreciate it and couldn’t agree more, you are spot on 👍

Always welcome my friend, you are going to absolutely love it and as I say in the vid, it can do more than you could ever need and more. Let me know how you get on with it when you get it 👍

A good decision if you ask me. You’ll love the Fenix 8, to be honest both are absolutely amazing. I appreciate the feedback, thanks for taking the time 👍

@@Knenemeka thank you, you’ll absolutely love it. Thanks for taking the time to comment 👍

@@user-fi3uu2ry8i absolutely agree, thank you for taking the time to comment 👍

It definitely feels very intentional by the shoe manufacturers that’s for sure. These are at the better end of the pricing market compared to other carbon plated manufacturers but I suspect version 4 will as you say be more expensive 👍

@@bfmainisnunu8064 it’s a brilliant watch, and at that value you really can’t go wrong. I got the Fenix 8 to test for a few months and will finish my comparison video between the Epix pro gen 2 and the new Fenix hopefully today so look out for that, but I’m pretty sure my conclusion is that the Epix is still the one to get 👍

@ I’ll keep an eye out for it. 👍🏻

@@mattc1704 it’s fantastic. I actually recently got the Fenix 8 to try it out and although it’s got a few things that the Epix hasn’t, the Epix does 98% of the same as what the Fenix 8 does and it now a lot cheaper. You’ll not regret it, it’s brilliant 👍

@@Runningonthemind Thanks very much for your reply. Just wanted to ask your advice.. I understand through other reviews that the Epix Pro Gen 2 has push button issues? Have you had or heard of this at all?

@@jayinthelongrun7453 depends on the definition of slow cooking guess but the sky Paris is more versatile than the edge Paris. The sky works at pretty much all paces 👍

I’m sure you love them 👌🏼👍

You’re welcome. I actually talked a little about the fit of the Metaspeed v the Alphafly 3 in one of my previous videos several months ago. The Alphafly is more like wearing a compression sock (which I personally quite like, but the asics motionwrap is much more of a traditionally feel, with more room in the toebox area. The wrap isn’t loose, but definitely more roomy than the Alphafly. Another option if you can’t get hold of the Metaspeed is the Puma deviate nitro elite 3, it performs as well as the Vaporfly 2 did, and feels very similar. The upper on it is very comfortable also. ASICS are about to release another mint blue colourway which looks lovely so hopefully more supply and availability of it coming as well

@@Runningonthemind The Alphafly is more like a compression sock is a perfect description. 😆 I am going to check out that video now.(Metaspeed v the Alphafly 3)

Totally agree my friend. That’s exactly how I described them in one of my previous videos about the Metaspeed Edge. Appreciate the comment mate 👍