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@rickfunk1355
@rickfunk1355 7 сағат бұрын
I would say that the minimum insurance coverage should be $100,000. If not, than the individual player would need to provide their own insurance of that amount either by a private company or their sponsors.
@ivindlundberg7592
@ivindlundberg7592 7 сағат бұрын
What is this? No surgery cost 78.000 $ thats ridiculous.
@RetroReaktor
@RetroReaktor 8 сағат бұрын
If Paige had been a Norwegian citizen, her bill for operation, therapies and rehab would have been 200 USD out of her own pocket. It is sad how American capitalism profits the most on you when you are at your most vulnerable.
@andreasericsson6989
@andreasericsson6989 Күн бұрын
Can't you fuckers make healthcare free yet? For a country that supposedly created capitalism, you sure don't understand it very well on a national level. Invest in your most valuable assets so as to increase their value. That means that things that increase population selfsufficiency and ability to earn their own living should be paid for by taxes.
@ZacAndoe
@ZacAndoe Күн бұрын
dont mention unions.. we might not hear from Paige anymore...
@aaronmayhew2.0
@aaronmayhew2.0 Күн бұрын
Can't hurt yourself and definitely cant go to the doctor. Thanks Obama.
@29HanburyStreet
@29HanburyStreet 2 күн бұрын
Certainly, if a players union forms, the future of the sport is doomed.
@spankmabawlz
@spankmabawlz 2 күн бұрын
Did they cover it because it was Paige Pierce? I have a sneaky suspension that most other players would have ben S.O.L.
@discjunkiesDGT
@discjunkiesDGT 3 күн бұрын
we need our valuable input, good stuff as always!!!
@objectivetruth2286
@objectivetruth2286 3 күн бұрын
I have a few discs that are very special to me. One in particular given to me by a deceased family member. I feel like they are with me as I play. Luckily, the one time I lost a disc, it was returned- super nice guy. I have returned 2 discs and both guys were crazy happy as they were favorite discs. Return them if you can. Be golden.
@objectivetruth2286
@objectivetruth2286 3 күн бұрын
Any kind of insurance here in the U.S. is a scam to take as much money from people and then fight like hell to give nothing back. It needs a complete overhaul.
@air-wreck-ahapp-eel6325
@air-wreck-ahapp-eel6325 3 күн бұрын
union is the only way!!!
@getdizzylike
@getdizzylike 3 күн бұрын
The kid that got shot at a PDGA event in KC, is driving around in a brand new corvette now......
@stonerock1980
@stonerock1980 3 күн бұрын
i have insurance with a 1500. deductible so i get it, when i stepped on a three inch big locust thorn this spring it cost me 800 $ with insurance , foot and lower leg swelled up big time , x-rays and 3 antibiotics later along with a week off work. Be careful out there.
@theairportstuff
@theairportstuff 3 күн бұрын
Is Heinhold jewish?
@leestriplin554
@leestriplin554 3 күн бұрын
Why should the pdga be responsible for insurance? First, get a real job. Throwing Frisbees is not one unless you are mcbeth, lizzotte or, tarter sauce. That is going away as well. Frolf will always be frolf, regardless how much ya'll want to make a sport of it
@nathanwilson7929
@nathanwilson7929 4 күн бұрын
I have a million dollars policy for liability and 5ktool/equipment insurance for about 900 a month... Why is it so expensive for the pdga again?
@JimmiTheCat420
@JimmiTheCat420 4 күн бұрын
Had this happened to a Norwegian athlete the operation would cost almost nothing. Happy I live here and the government use my taxes for good healthcare.
@discblaster9210
@discblaster9210 4 күн бұрын
Of course Paige Penis and Heinous Heinold are at the root of this
@discblaster9210
@discblaster9210 4 күн бұрын
Paige is the root of all evil in Fpo
@brandonscott8831
@brandonscott8831 4 күн бұрын
If there's any intelligence at all they'll start a union
@simonramone4510
@simonramone4510 4 күн бұрын
$78k+ is a lot, even by the standards of orthopedic surgeons. I doubt she ended up paying the full bill, after explaining the insurance limits to the doctor. And if she did, she likely could have had the procedure from any number of competent doctors for 1/2-1/3 of the surgery cost.
@Pisgahmts
@Pisgahmts 4 күн бұрын
Welcome to the real world.
@daxmusix
@daxmusix 4 күн бұрын
We will have no disc golf if the PDGA has to pay out on slips and falls and other injuries that come under the rubric of personal responsibility. If the players want coverage for that kind of thing, they should pool together and get coverage in a group, which will lower their costs per month. All of that said, it borders on criminality that a two or three hour surgery costs 73K. It should be maybe 5K max.
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
a lawyer telling us to trust an insurance salesman
@byuidan
@byuidan 4 күн бұрын
They are people. They are not automatically the incarnation of the stereotype. I don’t remember him saying “you should trust Nic” he just gave an analysis of the legality of the procedure with an inconclusive result due to lack of research. In Nic’s case it looks like he was working to follow the law and that he provided significant value to the PDGA. Both look good to me.
@TDub777
@TDub777 4 күн бұрын
Good Ole muricsn freedom
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
dont forget about illiteracy
@harrisonbodrie9708
@harrisonbodrie9708 5 күн бұрын
Big big ups on a tour union. If the corporations are getting richer the LEAST they can do is system wide healthcare coverage. Not just for the big names but for all pros.
@theairportstuff
@theairportstuff 3 күн бұрын
hahaha, ROTFL... PDGA cannot even supply caddy books in a timely manner for their events.
@macdietz
@macdietz 15 сағат бұрын
Lmfao the corporationnnnnnsssss The PDGA doesnt have money. They literally LOST money last year. Put down the Marx, he can never help you succeed.
@samhowl1152
@samhowl1152 5 күн бұрын
Yes, it's their fault she's clumsy. Unless the bridge cracked, she shouldn't have gotten a dime.
@MultiSilversalmon
@MultiSilversalmon 5 күн бұрын
People should have their own healthcare policy. Paige is ridiculous not to have proper insurance. Obamacare gives people no excuse not to have health insurance.
@ryansuter4424
@ryansuter4424 5 күн бұрын
It’s also unfortunate that other companies were going to charge PDGA more than double the price for poorer coverage.
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
doesnt sound believable to me. they just wanted to switch to ledgestone the whole time
@ryansuter4424
@ryansuter4424 5 күн бұрын
I wonder how much PDGA’s health insurance policy has paid out the last 5 years and if the payout is less than or more than they have had to pay out in coverage. I wonder it would be better to just have an insurance fund if the max payout for a bill is too low to cover many health insurance claims.
@ryansuter4424
@ryansuter4424 5 күн бұрын
Not sure how PDGA pays for insurance but it should be paid by many sources. Whom ever is making the most money out of the events should pay the most.
@ryansuter4424
@ryansuter4424 5 күн бұрын
Out of all the 3 parties being the PDGA, the hospital and the Health insurance provider the PDGA looked out for her interest the most. That being said the insurance should have a higher limit than $25,000 dollars. This is why many countries especially industrialized countries have universal health insurance that’s covered by tax dollars.
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
we're too busy spending 1T a year on war
@ryansuter4424
@ryansuter4424 5 күн бұрын
Paige’s personal health insurance only covered $80 dollars out of the 72 thousand dollar bill? What? It should be illegal to offer a policy that only covers $80.00 for an injury that the doctors recommended surgery for. Now maybe the insurance thought it was not necessary to have that surgery but that’s what the doctor recommended so the insurance should except that diagnosis unless the they it’s a scam.
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
yes insurance and medical care are scams
@bustatron
@bustatron 5 күн бұрын
Heinhold prob gonna get commission on the future payments. Just forgoe the initial bonus.
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
ya or he'll go back to ledgestone and get a fat board member check. i dont trust the lawyer telling us to trust an insurance salesman for a second
@jayjames8026
@jayjames8026 5 күн бұрын
25000 should be plenty for a person to get help. its what the medical industry charges thats the actual problem.
@user-xn7tq1qh5r
@user-xn7tq1qh5r 5 күн бұрын
Paige must be on Obama Care!
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies 5 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it be nice if societies treated accidental injuries without fees, unless you choose to go to a private hospital? Here in New Zealand, we have a "No Fault"-based Accident Compensation system. They are funded by income taxes, so that when an NZ resident is injured (for whatever reason) they receive free medical and health care, and 80% of their normal wage, while they recover. Overseas visitors still require insurance however, and Paige's lack of it, considering her income level ($500K p.a. base salary), is truly baffling, and quite irresponsible.
@laysdong
@laysdong 6 күн бұрын
Its nice to see heinold doing something positive for a change. Im glad hes no longer hung up on chasing legally dubious culture war nonsense
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
so drafting a shady deal with his former employer is positive and protecting the womens division is legally dubious?
@nickmellon7500
@nickmellon7500 6 күн бұрын
What 3rd world country is Paige from that they don’t have government/tax payer funded healthcare that’s free at the point of use?
@dalereinhold640
@dalereinhold640 6 күн бұрын
Almost any pro athlete has 50 k in the bank😂 What are you talking about Chris?
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
do pro disc golfers count? i would think only a few of the men and 2 of the women have 50k laying around unless they come from rich families, which i suspect is often the case. how else do these players that barely cash drive around the country in an rv?
@trentgay3437
@trentgay3437 6 күн бұрын
Seems like she might need to sue the course.
@arr64lima63
@arr64lima63 6 күн бұрын
What typew of insurance did Paige have that reimbursed her for $80 dollars? She needs to go insurance shopping.
@stammiam2662
@stammiam2662 6 күн бұрын
Most of us AM players are relying on our medical insurance from our employers to cover some or all of our medical expenses. This brings up a critical question for each of us - does it? I’ll be checking mine later today for sure….
@TheButlerNZ
@TheButlerNZ 6 күн бұрын
I misplaced a disc on a local public park disc golf course in New Zealand. (Latitude64 Jade Opto, near new but definitely used). Left in the open near a basket. (I returned to the basket (still unaware I had left it there) at the end of the round but it had gone (or I would have seen it and slapped my forehead in a DUH moment). Named and numbered. Never returned. In New Zealand, you also must do at least the basic attempts to return an item, be it looking round for someone nearby that may have dropped that $10 note... or Dialling that phone number... (My cell has Voicemail and text ability... never contacted). Failing to do the basic on an obviously named and numbered item that was in very good (not long lost) condition, and in an obvious not deep lost position... means the person who took the disc is now actually making an act of theft, retaining possession of an item obviously not belonging to themselves. I miss the Jade... My 1st expensive good plastic 300+ft disc. Now on the flip side.. I have several discs that do not belong to me... in fact I have found maybe 30 discs in my 2.5 years of play... Most numbered.. (all but 2 of them returned.. 1 said he'll get it sometime.. I've gotta remind him I still have it.. the other hasn't replied to 2 texts.. I'm going to call next coz maybe somehow he doesn't have a text compatible phone or doesn't read english.. (tho there is google translate?) Most of the others I have managed to find the owners... some.. I didn't... So i guess I own them now... but I still haven't named them.. on the off chance someone may (and yes this did happen) say "I used to throw one of those" (Though in that case I had actually gone looking for his disc late that day, found 6 (most numbered) and one matching what I thought his was.. but didn't have his name etc.. and nothing on the disc... But I kept it with me on that local course just in case... months later.. lucky guy!. and I have one named disc... nut no phone number... Common last name (I'm not ringing all the (lets say "Smith's" in the phone book... and phone books don't really exist for cells now anyway)... but I can't find him in PDGA or local clubs and no one knows him... (he can have it back if ever I do.. but it is Waaaaaaay over stable.. I mean not just Beef but the whole dang farm... Throw it on 45deg Anhyzer in 40k winds and it pulls flat then fades (I did just that... up hill... did I mention the farm...). Odd fact... of all the discs I have found... on one hole (#8 Berhampore Wellington NZ).. 70% have been base plastic RPM Pekapeka's (RPM is NZ and the Pekapeka is often in the starter pack. Both yet to be returned are, and from #8 And one of my favourite discs... #8 again... Cosmic Neutron Tesla Lab Second swamp find (cannot remove the swamp stain so I'm guessing was buried for at least a year... I think I finally named that one after a year. Just lost my Rive..... on #8.... Named and Numbered... Going back for a 3rd day with my clippers (can't do week nights as I finish as it gets dark... 5pm winter... ever read "Br'er Rabbit"
@Steventhrowsbirds
@Steventhrowsbirds 6 күн бұрын
That’s why I’m not a professional disc golfer. UPS has great insurance. 🎉
@frisbeephil
@frisbeephil 6 күн бұрын
Basic liability car insurance covers more than $25K. If Paige's insurance only covers $80, why even have it?
@InbredJed82060
@InbredJed82060 6 күн бұрын
I do payroll for 200 employees. Only 6 of them have healthcare coverage and none certainly have enough savings for a surgery. If the Pdga doesn't increase coverage, it will force players who may get injured to sue the courses.
@McSlobo
@McSlobo 6 күн бұрын
Suing a course in Norway doesn't work like it would work in US court case movies. You know Norway has 1km high cliffs where people can walk to and there's no railings. Yeah... if people aren't careful it's considered their own fault. However, PDGA should be held responsible of having a safe site, and PDGA could make a deal with the course about safety. However, I would say this is just accident and nobody's fault. People slip, accidents happen. That's why there's universal and (almost) free healthcare... in most of the Europe I mean. :D
@InbredJed82060
@InbredJed82060 6 күн бұрын
I'm from Colorado so also very familiar with mountain courses consisting of high cliffs. Our mountains are about double the size of yours, so let's call your mountains, small hills There are 100s of tournaments, worldwide every weekend. All which are covered by Pdga insurance. I wasn't talking about only tour events. If a player in a c-tier tournament gets severely injured, they won't be able to cover the bill and will be forced to use the course's insurance or file lawsuit to pay it. This causes courses to shut down.
@michaelmaniloff9297
@michaelmaniloff9297 5 күн бұрын
Sounds like she could have sued the pro tour and the course owner. They are fortunate she didn't.
@nickolaibrende6703
@nickolaibrende6703 5 күн бұрын
⁠@@michaelmaniloff9297. She would have lost 10/10 times in a Norwegian court if she had sued the corse owner. A Norwegian court would have pointed it to be a risk of participating. The pdga on the other hand, maybe. In Norway we pay cheap “sports insurance” so like a 300kr for a season, so if you get injured while playing official tournaments your good.
@token4774
@token4774 6 күн бұрын
Where is the analysis of the fine print in the contract? C'mon Chris, we enjoy watching your sleuth attorney skills. With regard to the insurance policy, if the limit is $25,000, why bother with insurance? Surely the PDGA has $25k in the bank. The PDGA should self insure. In general, insurance is a racket. Most insurance companies take 25 percent or more of the paid premium to cover salaries and expenses. Seriously.... self insure.
@will.green.
@will.green. 4 күн бұрын
they got insurance from the board members former employer. does that sound like a racket?
@Derekdick89
@Derekdick89 6 күн бұрын
Players union is the best idea