Yeah totally agree. ZWO hasn't told me anything for certain but their answer makes me believe it's coming. Just hope it comes before next milky way season.

Thanks and I agree, that would give the S50 an amazing upgrade.

I used an ASI 533MC Pro for that. But I've also used a DSLR in the past. I have a couple of videos showing my setup if you're curious: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH68k6mmqsxgmLc kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5eam2x7mch1iNU

Hope you get yours on time! I'm in the US.

Not yet. I believe the feature will become available at some point, especially since they want to compete with the DWARF scopes. You can take single short exposures and timelapses. Not yet good enough for the milky way.

Bortle 8. I'm right outside of Boston. The Rosette Nebula was right over Boston lights. M81 and the Double cluster was north so I was facing away from the city.

I have a way with the words 😁

That should be a fun experiment, let me know how it goes! I'm mostly curious if the Seestar gives you an option to "continue" stacking once you change filters. One thing to keep in mind is that the focus may be slightly different with and without the filters so you may need to trigger the autofocus before starting to image again. Clear skies!

Totally agree that these tiny scopes can't replace our regular gear. There's no way for it to compete with my 8" SCT on planets or smaller DSO (not yet at least). Glad you are enjoying the S50! Clear skies!

Since I do a ton of outreach, I think the S30 is better suited for me because it's easier to set up and t he wide field is perfect for certain objects that I usually target. Although I'll miss the closer views of the moon with the S50 which has been a fun target to show people thus far.

Ah that's strange! Was it not working in Station Mode or could you not connect to it directly? Hope the Dwarf 3 treats you better! I'm trying to get my hands on one now.

@@Naztronomy Good Luck I have been waiting 2 weeks.

I'm trying to get my hands on one now. As soon as I get one, you can expect a comparison. Let me know if you have any specific questions I should look to answer.

Yep! It's on the S50 as well. I just tested it on one of my saved images. If you order, consider using one of my referral links 😊 Good luck!

@@Naztronomy Thanks 4 comeing back. Just ordered. Delivery on Friday. Could not use ur link because i'm from Germany... So sorry... Hope 4 clear skies at weekend... 👍✨️🎇

@@petermustermann7526 No need to apologize 😊 I hope you have fun with the S50! Clear skies!

Thank you and any time 😊 Clear skies!

The pixel size is the same. Both are 2.9µm.

Good luck! Let me know if you have questions.

I think it's definitely worth the purchase! I should have mentioned it in the video but I think you can't make a wrong choice with the Seestars. They both have their advantages and disadvantages over each other but so do every other system. Congrats on your purchase!

@ thank you! This video helped me understand the how these little machines really function! I can’t wait to receive mine!!

Thank you and awesome! And you are correct about the wide angle lens. When I asked ZWO about using the lens for Milky Way, the answer made me believe that the feature will be coming in the future. So hopefully they do it before the next Milky Way season. And also correct, you can use the mosaic mode to take pictures and stitch them together. 150mm focal length is still pretty zoomed in so you may need a lot of individual frames. But I can totally see someone doing it for small regions of the milky way at a time. I currently have no experience with the D3 (or any Dwarf lab products) so I can't comment on the differences. I'm trying to get my hands on the D3 now because a lot of people have been asking me about it but I believe they are currently backordered to at least the end of January. So aside from the price difference, you'll probably get the S30 weeks (if not months) before the D3. I reached out to Dwarflab for more information and to see if I can maybe move on up the list 😁 if that happens, you can bet I'll do a comparison video between these two. Let me know if you have more questions, happy to answer!

​@Naztronomy thank you for insights

I am told that I can use a power bank to charge the S30 if I want to let it operate longer than 6 hours. Could you tell me what should be the specifications of the power bank for it to charge the S30 whilst in use? Thanks

Yep, you can use any power bank that can provide 2A of current. When I'm not home, I use something like this: amzn.to/3Z6PXwE - works pretty well when the dew heater isn't on. When the dew heater is on, the charge goes down but it goes down slower. And when I can, I use something like this Jackery, with the wall outlet, I can get a good amount of power where it'll charge the Seestar faster than it drains: amzn.to/498eJ44 If you watch my latest live stream, you'll notice that the charge stayed at 100%. I had it plugged into a Jackery.

Ahhh Yeah, my app updated as soon as I was done editing this video last night. I'm hoping to do a live stream later tonight if the weather complies so I'll test it out then. Sad to hear that there's no control. Thank you for sharing!

Ah PIPP is excellent at what it does. Glad you were able to utilize it!

The preview is a half second exposure so although there's no eyepiece to look through, the view is a live view (half second delay). This scope isn't good for planets, especially not compared to a 10" Dob. This is mostly for wider field objects. I'm working on a video where I'll show what Jupiter looks like (will upload in a day or two) so that should give you an idea.

Thanks so much, glad the video was helpful! I've used the 71F for two star parties this year. I've only used it to observe the moon but the views are fantastic and a crowd pleaser. Good luck with your events! And if you order one, consider using one of my referral links 😊 Clear skies!

@Naztronomy thank goodness you reminded me! I have the video saved

Ah I'm sorry. The costs in Europe are insane!

That is true and what happens in the background is that it still takes images in mosaic mode BUT it crops the mosaic down to just the 1x view. The corners end up being the center of certain frames so the field rotation smooths out. I'm experimenting with showing how that works. I'll hopefully have something ready to demo for everyone in a week or so.

Thank you! I'm sorry about your stroke but glad to hear that you are trying to get back into astronomy and doubly glad that something lightweight and small like the S30/S50 exist. . I hope you can find a good home for your Dob. Clear skies!

@@Naztronomy I sold my Orion 8" Dod and bought a Virtuoso 150 Collapsible 6" Dob.

Very cool! I have the Meade equivalent of your starmax (ETX-90). Great planetary scope. And it sounds like you have a nice collection in your arsenal.

Yep! I'm really happy to see that. I did a quick demo of that in my live stream last night. Definitely one of their better feature adds.

Glad this was helpful! Feel free to reach out with questions.

@@Naztronomy TNX very much. I have a new scope/mount arriving soon so excited to try astrosurface planetary image processing

Awesome, hope you are enjoying it!

Hey there!

Totally agree with this! Great way of putting it.

I think you're right about the S30 trying to compete with the Dwarf 2. You can take pictures using the S30 wide field but I think you're limited to its preview exposure speed (200ms if I'm not mistaken). You can theoretically do things like star trails and milky way. I'm hoping to test out both of them.

I think it's just the moon. Cuiv looked at the sun in his video and it looked okay. I plan to test this out with the sun tomorrow so I'll see. Deep sky stuff is normal. Just the moon is messed up. And video would definitely look better if you take it in RAW mode. Then you can debayer and process it yourself after the fact.

@Naztronomy It has that new AI feature to edit it in the app right? From what the info says on the site. Maybe that might help with the Moon photos. We'll have to see what happens

I'm imaging right now and there's nothing in the controls that I can see. I recorded my screen so I'll post that later on. But I did notice something interesting. The moon picture in this video was taken after I clicked '2x' on the seestar app to get closer and it looks overcooked. But when looking at the moon on the default 1x, it looks fine. At least it does on my phone screen. I'll have to transfer it to a computer later and confirm but it's very strange. It could be a programming error where at 1x, it's doing some ai sharpening but the moon still looks realistic but at 2x, it doubles the sharpening/contrast. The moon looks pretty bad at 4x too but the atmosphere is very turbulent at that magnification so I can't tell if it's worse than 2x. I'll review the photos and videos and confirm later. About the new AI editing feature, there is an option now to do a 'deep sky stack' in the app directly. You can pick individual images from the seestar and then stack them yourself. This may give you the AI controls. I'll have to test this out as well but this is the only place where 'AI Editing' makes sense to me. I'll hopefully get a chance to test with the sun tomorrow.

@Naztronomy I'm looking forward to your findings and results.

Do you know fieldrotation?Thats why he cant do that

@sardonyxuniverse2811 oh right, it rotates differently around the globe. Sun and moon doesn't rise or sets too, because they just move back and forth. Of course he can do it, with the right weather conditions and doing it on time.

@@bamsemh1 Infrom yourself better!The Seestar s50 doesnt have this Mode!It only can take 10 sec exposures!

@sardonyxuniverse2811 I'm using the seestar s50 myself. Obviously more than you can say. As soon the weather is cooperating again, I'll go for the 4 hour andromeda shot. And Orion nebula too. Stop being lazy with excuses, and start getting better pictures.

@@bamsemh1 Oh this is a misunderstanding! I thought you meant 3-4 hour per pic.

Awesome! Still thinking about the S50 or shifting to the S30? Either way, I think your kid will love it. The S50 in star parties has been a hit with kids.

Ah interesting. The limited control options in the Seestar's live stacking is definitely its weakest point. I posted a video a few days ago about live stacking using Sharpcap instead which give you control over trails. Not sure if that'll do well with mosaics but I'm hoping to try it one day.

I used my nexstar 6SE, ASi533MC Pro, Televue 3x Barlow, and CEM40 mount. Let me know i fyou have any other questions.

Yeah I think you're right. I'm about to do some tests with the S50 as well and then I'll send an email to ZWO about it.

Just buy one for your wife and ask if you can borrow it sometimes 😉

Thanks! I admit I also had reservations when I first heard about the seestar but I was quickly convinced it was a good direction to head.